Keen for more Age of Wonders 4 here team? I usually lean towards historic stuff, but sci-fi games and settings like Endless Legend and Stellaris have always captured my interest too.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. Memes aside, wasn't expecting another AOW to come out, and a return to form at that, not that Planetfall was a bad game I actually like it quite a bit, just that it's nice to return to classic AOW.
Age of Wonders 4 looking very good. I used to play Age of Wonders 3 on Steam and once in a while and enjoyed that game. That was my 1st Age of Wonders game. Looking forward to AOW 4 :)
I wish me more roleplaying in dialogs like the dialog with the indy orc chieftain. Why I have not options like my realm? Dead: Kill him or make him a slave; Life: Help him; Fire: Capture or destroy his city,...
I think my only complaint is the morale system. Its a prefference thing but there is no better feeling of succesfully defending a city with 4 times smaller army, outsmarting opponent and winnig. It was the essence of AoWSM and AoWII (played these the most). But with morale, even if you are confindent that you can beat an opponent, ur units might just give up and its frustrating. Sure it might be more thematic, but its a bummer for me gameplaywise. I hope there will be an option to turn it off.
True, so many of my memories of this series has been me defending my settlements against impossible odds and winning. I'd hate to lose that ability. I think they may have something planned for that though. One of the Dev Diaries mentioned there'll be a way for defenders to break a siege
Tbh its not that crazy - in AoW 3 you had 63 combinations of race/class + magic schools. Now it's 7 paths, 2 classes. Races are suppose to be less important.
@@wahahabuh I’m not sure. Clearly there are cosmetic but I think it looks like pretty substantial game play variations also. Obviously I don’t know for sure but I am hopeful based on what we have seen.
@@duaneclark7108 true, I suppose if the different tomes can vary wildly in terms of research they might be a replacement for classes. I'm cautiously optimistic
I played every AOW titles and enjoyed AOW3 and Planetfall the most, they are such great games ! I see they kept the excellent " Empire mode " from Planetfall in it and that's an excellent idea. There's plenty of races to choose from and more separated magics which sounds great. However the visuals aspects looks a bit lacking somehow ? and the U.I doesn't looks as appealing as AOW3, it is way too cold and square to looks " heroic fantastic " imo
Very excited. I have a lot of love for the older games, but moving in a more RPG-ish Paradox-influenced direction sounds like a fantastic idea. Kinda disappointed that they went with mostly obvious options in the character creator. If you're starting with Orcs, why would you go with the Barbaric culture? Why go so vanilla? Odd. The Ice theme is unique, at least.
It seems like with AoW4 that they're leaning more into elements that made both AoW3 and AoW: PF fun, being that your faction choice is just a single part of the strategy and that certain map elements can drastically alter your playstyle, units, etc. They're keeping the persistent empire mode from Planetfall, where you can upgrade heroes over time and play with really fun scenarios on hostile worlds devoid of resources, among other cool effects that change up the already varied experience of randomized maps. There's an opportunity for there to be a much more balanced experience here than AoW3 too, which is great. In a better gaming space, Old World and Age of Wonders would be more popular than Civilization. But I'm happy Age of Wonders 4 is coming out at all, and barring crippling bugs/performance on launch, I think at the very least it'll be a really fun game considering they were so eager to show off gameplay instead of just a trailer.
Jumbo: Please tell me they have modernized the "Moving a mass of multiple armies like checkers" in order to not get ambushed, or to have a chance of victory with large battles? They have had 4 iterations to fix that archaic mechanic. And also simu turns? Ability to watch other player's battles?
Can't state how hyped I am. I know Age Wonder series is a multiplayer/skirmish game at heart, but I for one have always loved the story/campaign content. The trailer of the portal and discussion of a location between realms, it has hyped me for the story of AoW that I have always loved. Personally, I wish to see the wizard kings in AOW back in force. I wish to play as Merlin again. I wish to see the Wizard's Circle restored. I wish to see the awesome Wizard's towers. I wish to see the Age Of Wonder restored.
Oh I'm looking forward to this. For ages I've wanted paradox to make fantasy stellaris. This isn't that, it's age of wonders, but it might well scratch the same itch.
VFX looks better from those battles, one of the things that REALLY bothered me is how terrible the VFX and SFX was on combat for Planetfall, back in age of wonders 3 i accepted the levels there cause it was a older game and a return to form after a lot of time without new Age of Wonders games, in Age of Wonders 4 i don't expect anything insane but they need to at least get with the times on the presentation there when units actually hit each other
This is my first time seeing the Age of Wonders series but I am quite excited for it! The game looks great so far and I can't wait to get my hands on it!
Looks like heroes will be infinitely more powerful than basic units even up to tier 4 elite units, if they picked a champion leader then I would bet that they could have beaten the fire giant rather than needing units
Dunno about that, seems they aren't much different from previous entries of ruler heroes. I'd even say the Wizard Kings probably more powerful in combat able to cast spells twice, while the Champion seems to focus more on economy and other units. Otherwise I doubt there's much difference, both will cast spells, both can be made into melee or ranged heroes and so forth.
I imagine if there are undead it will come from one of the spellbooks like how researching frost magic seems to let you turn your faction into a frostling version later on, or how researching a different tree lets you give them wings and horns to make them more demonic (or angelic)
The violet book shown in the Spellmastery-choice looked very undeadly. Pretty sure a)there will be undead but not shown yet b(and worst): they are dlc again or c(most interesting): you can turn your race into undead with enough research etc
AoW3 was so tedious I could only play it a few times so I'm sceptical about AoW4. They don't seem to be able to capture what was good about the classic AoW1
AoW1 was absurd level of cheesing around. AoW2 kinda limited it vs AI (AI simply couldnt capture a town with 16 zombies :D) AoW3 lost most of the bullshittery (afaik, or it get patched out - miss the days of mass perma rifts), what took the nostalgia out of the game.
@@RadbotSC2 The ridiculous things you could do in AoW1 (e.g. flying "battlecruisers" cheese, vampyric hero one-man army etc.) were a part of the charm of the game :)
@@cainghorn there is nothing more elegant as trapping the enemie Lord in a circle of Mountains 😌 Or drowning the enemiearmy in a suddenly apparing ocean 😄
Instead of seeing multiple models in a unit I prefer seeing only one model and number of soldiers indicator of the unit (Like Heroes of M&M games). I like the feeling of large scale battles for an empire instead of 30 individuals fighting in a battle to determine the fate of an empire.
I disagree, I'd rather see the army than have to image it, and showing hundreds of small dudes in each tile wouldn't be that visually interesting. Showing ~6 dudes per unit is a pretty good compromise I think. Okay maybe I'd like a few more than 6, but now I'm just being picky.
@@Arhatu I'm about as OK with that idea as the notion they'd wait around for the enemy to take their turn. :P Reducing an army down to a single model and a number is about as abstract a representation as pretending there's only 6 of them I think. But the latter is more visually compelling imo.
To me, none of the sequels were ever able to capture the magic of the first AoW. Sure, mechanically there is certainly vast progress, but both AoW 3 and - worse - Planetfall didn't really have the "feeling". Ah, I wish they actually made a HD remake of the AoW 1...
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Keen for more Age of Wonders 4 here team?
I usually lean towards historic stuff, but sci-fi games and settings like Endless Legend and Stellaris have always captured my interest too.
Love Age Of wonder games! That'd be great if you cover it more.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. Memes aside, wasn't expecting another AOW to come out, and a return to form at that, not that Planetfall was a bad game I actually like it quite a bit, just that it's nice to return to classic AOW.
I played Planetfall and kept hoping for a game like Age of Wonders 3 or Heroes of Might and Magic and here it is!
Age of Wonders 4 looking very good. I used to play Age of Wonders 3 on Steam and once in a while and enjoyed that game. That was my 1st Age of Wonders game. Looking forward to AOW 4 :)
And here I was just hoping to get a planetfall 2
Dude I'm so happy. Big fan of aow 3 - around 400h on steam.
I wish me more roleplaying in dialogs like the dialog with the indy orc chieftain. Why I have not options like my realm? Dead: Kill him or make him a slave; Life: Help him; Fire: Capture or destroy his city,...
Yep, the graphics and design and characters looks great 😊 👍🏻
I think my only complaint is the morale system. Its a prefference thing but there is no better feeling of succesfully defending a city with 4 times smaller army, outsmarting opponent and winnig. It was the essence of AoWSM and AoWII (played these the most). But with morale, even if you are confindent that you can beat an opponent, ur units might just give up and its frustrating. Sure it might be more thematic, but its a bummer for me gameplaywise. I hope there will be an option to turn it off.
True, so many of my memories of this series has been me defending my settlements against impossible odds and winning. I'd hate to lose that ability.
I think they may have something planned for that though. One of the Dev Diaries mentioned there'll be a way for defenders to break a siege
The faction creator looks amazing. So many options between the faction, the leader, the tomes…so much customization
Tbh its not that crazy - in AoW 3 you had 63 combinations of race/class + magic schools. Now it's 7 paths, 2 classes. Races are suppose to be less important.
@@johnnythedark3090 true but IMO by the time you add the 54 tome options, the customization even during the game is pretty dang impressive
@@duaneclark7108 so more cosmetic variations, but less mechanical variations sounds like?
@@wahahabuh I’m not sure. Clearly there are cosmetic but I think it looks like pretty substantial game play variations also. Obviously I don’t know for sure but I am hopeful based on what we have seen.
@@duaneclark7108 true, I suppose if the different tomes can vary wildly in terms of research they might be a replacement for classes. I'm cautiously optimistic
I played every AOW titles and enjoyed AOW3 and Planetfall the most, they are such great games !
I see they kept the excellent " Empire mode " from Planetfall in it and that's an excellent idea.
There's plenty of races to choose from and more separated magics which sounds great.
However the visuals aspects looks a bit lacking somehow ? and the U.I doesn't looks as appealing as AOW3, it is way too cold and square to looks " heroic fantastic " imo
age of wonders 2: shadow magic is one of my all time favorite games (like, way more than homm3), and I am super hyped for this.
Very excited. I have a lot of love for the older games, but moving in a more RPG-ish Paradox-influenced direction sounds like a fantastic idea.
Kinda disappointed that they went with mostly obvious options in the character creator. If you're starting with Orcs, why would you go with the Barbaric culture? Why go so vanilla? Odd.
The Ice theme is unique, at least.
"Omg! 2023!? That's so far away...wait, it's this year..."
It seems like with AoW4 that they're leaning more into elements that made both AoW3 and AoW: PF fun, being that your faction choice is just a single part of the strategy and that certain map elements can drastically alter your playstyle, units, etc. They're keeping the persistent empire mode from Planetfall, where you can upgrade heroes over time and play with really fun scenarios on hostile worlds devoid of resources, among other cool effects that change up the already varied experience of randomized maps.
There's an opportunity for there to be a much more balanced experience here than AoW3 too, which is great.
In a better gaming space, Old World and Age of Wonders would be more popular than Civilization. But I'm happy Age of Wonders 4 is coming out at all, and barring crippling bugs/performance on launch, I think at the very least it'll be a really fun game considering they were so eager to show off gameplay instead of just a trailer.
Jumbo: Please tell me they have modernized the "Moving a mass of multiple armies like checkers" in order to not get ambushed, or to have a chance of victory with large battles? They have had 4 iterations to fix that archaic mechanic. And also simu turns? Ability to watch other player's battles?
Christ I hate that. Should have been redone years ago.
Can't state how hyped I am. I know Age Wonder series is a multiplayer/skirmish game at heart, but I for one have always loved the story/campaign content. The trailer of the portal and discussion of a location between realms, it has hyped me for the story of AoW that I have always loved. Personally, I wish to see the wizard kings in AOW back in force. I wish to play as Merlin again. I wish to see the Wizard's Circle restored. I wish to see the awesome Wizard's towers. I wish to see the Age Of Wonder restored.
Oh I'm looking forward to this. For ages I've wanted paradox to make fantasy stellaris. This isn't that, it's age of wonders, but it might well scratch the same itch.
Very keen and also a bit anxious. AoW3 is my favourite game. Planetfall I didn’t like at all.
Wonder if it's moddable? Imagine a lord of the rings mod for it 😜
Yes it will be, just look at the previous age of wonders game
VFX looks better from those battles, one of the things that REALLY bothered me is how terrible the VFX and SFX was on combat for Planetfall, back in age of wonders 3 i accepted the levels there cause it was a older game and a return to form after a lot of time without new Age of Wonders games, in Age of Wonders 4 i don't expect anything insane but they need to at least get with the times on the presentation there when units actually hit each other
Now we just need to get our hands on it!
This reminds me a bit of the old Master of Magic.
Looks amazing. I'm still however depressed seing paradox release all these cool games without giving update about vampire the masquerade.
Ain't this just a fantasy variation of planetfall?
Sort of.
Or rather, Planetfall is just a sci-fi version of this.
Should be pretty clear by just reading the titles of the series.
This is my first time seeing the Age of Wonders series but I am quite excited for it! The game looks great so far and I can't wait to get my hands on it!
Previous title Age of Wonders 3 is also great game. Hopefully new AOW4 will be great as well.
trailler is shit, but have high hopes for the game.
Syrons are coming back?
I want overlord 3.
It does look amazing!
Looks like heroes will be infinitely more powerful than basic units even up to tier 4 elite units, if they picked a champion leader then I would bet that they could have beaten the fire giant rather than needing units
Dunno about that, seems they aren't much different from previous entries of ruler heroes. I'd even say the Wizard Kings probably more powerful in combat able to cast spells twice, while the Champion seems to focus more on economy and other units. Otherwise I doubt there's much difference, both will cast spells, both can be made into melee or ranged heroes and so forth.
@@prinstyrio0 Kind of funny considering that AoW2/SM Wizard-Kings were pretty hopeless in combat
no undead??
I imagine if there are undead it will come from one of the spellbooks like how researching frost magic seems to let you turn your faction into a frostling version later on, or how researching a different tree lets you give them wings and horns to make them more demonic (or angelic)
The violet book shown in the Spellmastery-choice looked very undeadly.
Pretty sure a)there will be undead but not shown yet b(and worst): they are dlc again or c(most interesting): you can turn your race into undead with enough research etc
Death spellbook i think, since frostlings is now but a mutant variant
One of the spellbooks lets you summon undead i assume you'll be able to add the undead trait to your units midgame like with frostlings
AoW3 was so tedious I could only play it a few times so I'm sceptical about AoW4. They don't seem to be able to capture what was good about the classic AoW1
AoW1 was absurd level of cheesing around. AoW2 kinda limited it vs AI (AI simply couldnt capture a town with 16 zombies :D)
AoW3 lost most of the bullshittery (afaik, or it get patched out - miss the days of mass perma rifts), what took the nostalgia out of the game.
@@RadbotSC2 The ridiculous things you could do in AoW1 (e.g. flying "battlecruisers" cheese, vampyric hero one-man army etc.) were a part of the charm of the game :)
@@cainghorn there is nothing more elegant as trapping the enemie Lord in a circle of Mountains 😌
Or drowning the enemiearmy in a suddenly apparing ocean 😄
Instead of seeing multiple models in a unit I prefer seeing only one model and number of soldiers indicator of the unit (Like Heroes of M&M games). I like the feeling of large scale battles for an empire instead of 30 individuals fighting in a battle to determine the fate of an empire.
I disagree, I'd rather see the army than have to image it, and showing hundreds of small dudes in each tile wouldn't be that visually interesting.
Showing ~6 dudes per unit is a pretty good compromise I think.
Okay maybe I'd like a few more than 6, but now I'm just being picky.
@@davidnayr301 Is it ok for you that fate of an empire could be decided in a fight between 60 individuals?
@@Arhatu I'm about as OK with that idea as the notion they'd wait around for the enemy to take their turn. :P
Reducing an army down to a single model and a number is about as abstract a representation as pretending there's only 6 of them I think. But the latter is more visually compelling imo.
To me, none of the sequels were ever able to capture the magic of the first AoW. Sure, mechanically there is certainly vast progress, but both AoW 3 and - worse - Planetfall didn't really have the "feeling". Ah, I wish they actually made a HD remake of the AoW 1...
It looks like the region system from Planetfall is also in this one. That's meh.
Mind specifying what "feeling" you are referring to?
I never played the first one so I'm genuinely asking.
This looks like a new better version of Endless Legend, taking some inspiration from Warhammer Total War. I’m all for it!