South African Reacts To What If America Never Joined WW2?

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  • @jonathancathey2334
    @jonathancathey2334 8 месяцев назад +15

    To give an idea of the industrial output during WW2. 70% of equipment used by the allies during WW2. Were produced in the U.S.

  • @johnwatrous8982
    @johnwatrous8982 8 месяцев назад +29

    He neglected to mention all the billions in aid given to the Soviet Union.

    • @hazardsplay5073
      @hazardsplay5073 8 месяцев назад +8

      Russians tend to forget that ever even happened

    • @steventambon2588
      @steventambon2588 8 месяцев назад +5

      Came here to say this.... @jono look up the amount of items that the US provided to the USSR during WWII. Then imagine them trying to win the war without those tanks, weapons, food, and clothing. I don't see how there's any other camp of thought on whether or not the US involvement was necessary for an allied victory. Without lend-lease, allied aid, and the eventual military action, it's highly unlikely the allies would have been able to overcome the axis powers.
      I mean, there are people who say that Russia would have beat the Germans without the US, but those people do not include Stalin and Khrushchev. Both said that the USSR could not beat the Nazi's without the USA's lend-lease. (not to mention also taking care of the pacific so they weren't attacked from two fronts)
      Stalin went as far as saying to Churchill and Roosevelt at the 1943 Tehran conference "I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war...The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."
      Nikita Khrushchev later wrote in a memoir: "If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war... One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."

    • @TexArizocan
      @TexArizocan 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@hazardsplay5073most Europeans forget the US' help in WW2 and they make fun of the US.

  • @TheRoman1964
    @TheRoman1964 6 месяцев назад

    You do exactly what I do when it comes to history and all its aspects and how it’s connected to the here and now.

  • @alcelaya1365
    @alcelaya1365 3 месяца назад

    Don't overlook the fact that Germany had a nuclear bomb project that was making progress toward their own atomic bomb. Time ran out on Germany but given another year or two it is conceivable that the first nuclear bomb might have fallen on London or Moscow. Germany had also designed a bomber capable of flying to the US East Coast.

  • @GrantReedIII
    @GrantReedIII 2 месяца назад

    I also think that Japan could have focused on the USSR.

  • @bobevans3209
    @bobevans3209 8 месяцев назад +12

    No, the Soviets would not have survived without US supply lines. The amount of equipment the US sent was immense.

  • @titaneyes1
    @titaneyes1 8 месяцев назад +16

    This is a terrible video that is historically inaccurate and actually makes the world dumber. To begin with, the US didn't sanction Japan for joining the Axis. The US sanctions were a result of Japan's invasion of Manchuria. Also, Russia would not have beat Germany... especially if Japan would have created a second front for Russia. But he fails to mention
    The United States provided the Soviet Union with the following supplies during World War II:
    400,000 jeeps and trucks
    14,000 airplanes
    8,000 tractors
    13,000 tanks
    1.5 million blankets
    15 million pairs of army boots
    107,000 tons of cotton
    2.7 million tons of petrol products

  • @Elevatedzebra96
    @Elevatedzebra96 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sorry ur sick, we have an outbreak of norovirus here in the midwestern state Ohio..

  • @MrVvulf
    @MrVvulf 8 месяцев назад +4

    I had a professor at NC State back in the 1980s who was a WW2 vet.
    I remember him saying (in a bombastic joking way) things like -
    "If it wasn't for me and my buddies, the Mediterranean would be called The Great German Lake."

    • @scotthill1600
      @scotthill1600 8 месяцев назад +1

      Both my parents went to NC state don’t know exactly what year they graduated but it would have been in the 80’s, early 90s at the latest but I think 80s. Small world, was just talking to a lady the other day who works across the street from states engineering building(s)

    • @MrVvulf
      @MrVvulf 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@scotthill1600 I was there late '88-'91. Left for 17 years to raise my boys when my wife died of cancer. Went back for 2 semesters in '08 to finish my degree. For a while my eldest son and I were both there at the same time. He's smarter than me though, so he got his degree in Chemical Engineering. He's a project manager and consultant at a Pfizer facility now. 5 grandkids.

    • @scotthill1600
      @scotthill1600 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@MrVvulf congrats man, cool to hear. Nc state is a good college, as my parents always say, we’ve been blessed

  • @thumper7047
    @thumper7047 8 месяцев назад +3

    I don't know. Germany and Japan together were well on their way to defeating both China and Russia. Germany had to backtrack and face the allied forces in Europe (with America helping) whereas they might not have had to do that, Japan and Germany would have probably defeated Russian and China and Japan would have also defeated New Zealand and Australia as they already had the Philippines. Germany taking on just Russia or Just England would have won easily, they took on both at the same time and were handling it, but through the USA in the mix and suddenly Germany and Japan were both being bombed at home and could no longer put their attention on Russia. JMHO

  • @cheryla7480
    @cheryla7480 8 месяцев назад +2

    No Canadian and American soldiers were not sent over together. Canadian solders we’re in WWII on September 10, 1939!, as did most of the Commonwealth countries. We all fought under the Union Jack. So when you see mention of the British being here there etc. The broad term British included Canadians, Aussies, Kiwis,, India, South Africa, West Indies etc etc. Even though we were under the “ British “ blanket each country had certain battles that they fought as a unit. On D-Day the five beaches were: Omaha and Utah - the US, Gold and Star - Britain and Juno - Canada.

  • @wayneperkins7605
    @wayneperkins7605 8 месяцев назад +1

    We are about to save freedom for the world once again.

    • @Cavebabyberserker
      @Cavebabyberserker 8 месяцев назад

      Not in Africa. Yall gotta bounce . TF wrong with yall

  • @colbunkmust
    @colbunkmust 8 месяцев назад +2

    The premise of this question is sort of silly, both Japan and Germany declared war on the USA, we never had an option in joining or not. We just decided it was better to win than to surrender.

  • @RichardMiller-s5f
    @RichardMiller-s5f 8 месяцев назад

    You might like to see the war factorys of WWII.

  • @rudymarmaro
    @rudymarmaro 8 месяцев назад +1

    Glad you are feeling better, I was praying for you. You should check out the fat electrician, specifically his operation Paul Bunyan. Also check out some videos about submarines. I served on a Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarine during the cold war.

  • @kyliebreitenbach79
    @kyliebreitenbach79 8 месяцев назад +2

    I’m a WWII history nerd and the best video maker I have found is a guy named Mark Felton! Incredible work he puts in and videos you never thought about. Even if not for reactions, I think you would enjoy as much as I do!

    • @Hardradi-hkh9596skp
      @Hardradi-hkh9596skp 8 месяцев назад +1

      Dr. Felton is probably the very best at what he does. Entertaining and very informative at the same time. The guy should be given a Knighthood by his country. Glad to see there's a fellow admirer appreciative of the good Doctor's work out there. He's also written a couple of excellent books on the related subjects that are well worth the read.

    • @kyliebreitenbach79
      @kyliebreitenbach79 8 месяцев назад

      @@Hardradi-hkh9596skp I’ll have to check that out. When I hear that opening music on his videos I get excited!

  • @larrym.johnson9219
    @larrym.johnson9219 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sorry you are dealing with this illness 🙏
    I don't know whether you know or not but Germany and Japan had a pact I don't know where Italy was in the pack, if you know the horrors, that were perpetuated by the Axis powers, it was a war of domination! We in the United States get blame for being, overreaching, the We helped rebuild, Europe and Japan, there's a lot that this fellow did not say in his video, France fell, England would have followed, without the help of the United States of America Britain would not have been able to defend her empire against the advance of the Axis powers, and originally the USSR was on the side of Germany. So let's just say the world would be a completely different place freedom would not be exist today. Even though we are still fighting for it. ⛪👨‍👩‍👧‍👦🇺🇸🔥🤟

  • @brandyforsythe1882
    @brandyforsythe1882 8 месяцев назад

    Jono you need to check out the Fat Electrician "The Limping Lady"

  • @ihatemybosses
    @ihatemybosses 8 месяцев назад +4

    When exactly did France hold off the German advances.

    • @WoosterCogburnn
      @WoosterCogburnn 8 месяцев назад +1

      Bellawood………no wait, that was the marines!

  • @cheryla7480
    @cheryla7480 8 месяцев назад

    Canada was in both wars from the beginning. In WWI The US came in in the last 8 months of the war and in WWII ( which started in 1939 ) The US only came in when Germany declared war on them ( Dec 1941 ) pretty much the last two years.

    • @Northbravo
      @Northbravo 8 месяцев назад +1

      So is that supposed to discredit the deaths of hundreds of thousands or are you just trying to make yourself feel better by belittling another countries massive contributions to both wars?

    • @cheryla7480
      @cheryla7480 8 месяцев назад

      @@Northbravo Just pointing out the fact that Americans can’t go 5 seconds without bragging about something. Like the Evangelical Christian? Woman who said that Jesus was the greatest American ever and he wrote the best book……The Bible!. I’m still waiting for the American who claims the U.S created the earth and did it in 2 days ( much faster than God )!

    • @cheryla7480
      @cheryla7480 8 месяцев назад

      @@TLRHFN That’s not bragging, it’s stating a fact, All Commonwealth countries fought…Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa, West Indies etc, all in it from the beginning and yet what country is it who boasts……” If it wasn’t four us, you’d all be speaking German now”! Gee I wonder who that might be? Yet they can’t figure out why they are disliked world wide!

    • @cheryla7480
      @cheryla7480 8 месяцев назад

      @@TLRHFN Oviusly you were not around during the war years, but that quote from American vets is the absolute truth, and anyone still living from those times! It’s amazing how quickly Americans fall back on the “ you’re all just jealous of us.” I’m game …..tell me what we’re jealous of? Oh wait I know. We all want to be the country that has the most serial killers in the world right!
      #1. UNITED STATES. 3,690
      #2. UNITED KINGDOM. 196
      #3. RUSSIA. 164
      #4. JAPAN. 138
      #5 INDIA. 130
      #6. SOUTH AFRICA. 129…..and so on and so forth. No wait I have it…. I’m jealous that my kids can’t go to schools that are locked daily, with metal detectors, security guards, teachers carrying guns or am I jealous that as of 2024 13 American children die daily due to gun violence ( not including school shootings ). Maybe I’m jealous that despite pouring the most money into my health care system…..my country has the highest rate of infant, and maternal deaths, medical errors and malpractice suits in the entire industrialized world. No I must be jealous that my country’s food is banned in some 160 countries world wide……especially the beef ,pork and chicken. Could I be upset that my insulin only costs $28.00 and that exact same insulin is $300.00 in the US.
      I am so jealous that our national pastime isn’t mass shootings and the national motto motto isn’t…… “ This isn’t who we are “. Also wouldn’t it be fun to have more of our own citizens incarcerated, than any other country in the world. I’m jealous that while US life expectancy is dropping rapidly, while other countries life expectancy is increasing. Of course one could go on forever, but I’ll leave it to you to fill in anymore jealousies we all have. By the way nearly every expert has agreed WWII would have been won without the U.S. It only would have taken a bit longer. The Nazis had already begun their retreat from Russia and other areas. They were running out of men and resources.
      #

  • @thefallofKAE89
    @thefallofKAE89 8 месяцев назад

    You hear and see so much about war. It's about families. Ascend or don't. Haha

  • @UncleUncleRj
    @UncleUncleRj 8 месяцев назад +2

    If Hitler didn't have to focus as many troops on the western front, he could've taken Moscow before being forced to dig in for the winter, which is a large factor in what doomed him on the soviet front.

    • @TexArizocan
      @TexArizocan 8 месяцев назад

      Soviet front Stalin was just throwing people at the German army but the US gave millions of supplies to the soviets

    • @Krokodil82
      @Krokodil82 5 месяцев назад

      So, according to you, winter in Russia lasts 4 years without spring, summer and fall, just one season all year long. Got it 👍

    • @UncleUncleRj
      @UncleUncleRj 5 месяцев назад

      @@Krokodil82 Hitler was incredibly close to taking Moscow before barely getting stopped by Russian forces and then being forced to stop during Winter. He had thrown everything he had remaining at Russia. If he didn't have so many troops focused on the west, he would've thrown enough at Russia to take Moscow long before Russia could've built up the forces to hold off & retaliate.

    • @Krokodil82
      @Krokodil82 5 месяцев назад

      @@UncleUncleRj and right after he stopped, Russians through unarmed bodies at his army, correct? Im just trying to learn American version of the event written by Nazis ☺️

    • @UncleUncleRj
      @UncleUncleRj 5 месяцев назад

      @@Krokodil82 Poorly armed and equipped, but Winter did a lot of the work because Hitler's forces were already struggling hard due to their environment and previous battles. The citizen soldiers the USSR managed to pull together quickly were enough to hold back the Nazi's until real soldiers could show up.

  • @blake7587
    @blake7587 8 месяцев назад +1

    There is a way better one than this called “The World Without the US” by Infographics.

  • @cheryla7480
    @cheryla7480 8 месяцев назад

    Yes the general consensus by most experts I’d that the allies would have won in Europe without the U.S. but true it would have taken a bit longer. The Nazis had already started to retreat in some areas. A lot of resentment that was felt by allied vets towards the US was the fact they continually boasted…..” If it wasn’t for the US, you’d all be speaking German now “. Which of course we know what is the truth

  • @MacTX
    @MacTX 8 месяцев назад

    The Infographics Show has another take on what would happen.
    With how much resources (materials, men, money) the US sent out, I have a hard time believing that the Allies could have still won without US joining. Russia had a lot of bodies to throw at the enemy, but they lacked equipment and supplies.

  • @TexArizocan
    @TexArizocan 8 месяцев назад

    Well European countries let Hitler procede into other countries and the other countries didnt do anything in the beginning, so Hitler was allowed free range, and without the US supplies to the UK and the Soviet Union prior to Pearl Harbor and the US entering UK would've probably survided since it was an island, then again who would they have traded with for food

  • @shaneb4612
    @shaneb4612 8 месяцев назад

    Ha USA & Canuck's. Jono bro, you forgot to say Australia (& New Zealand), dude. What would the world look like is us ANZAC's did join the fray. I suppose the pacific would be controlled by the Japanese.

  • @tylerstewart2474
    @tylerstewart2474 8 месяцев назад

    Canada helping? 😂 Ooofffffff

  • @thumper7047
    @thumper7047 8 месяцев назад

    FWIW - our friends and neighbors to our north (aka Canada) ARE America. There is South America with many countries and there is North America with a few countries. Canada is one of those in North America. When you say "America" that includes Canada. When you say "United States of America, then you are talking about the USA. Don't know how Canada started getting left behind. We love Canada even if they are a bit too far left atm. But the West in general has had the pendulum swing way too far left recently and a correction is coming IMHO.

  • @2strokinit527
    @2strokinit527 8 месяцев назад

    Keep in mind if the Japanese had taken or cut off Australia they could have attacked Russia from the back. Also if the US wasn't hitting Germany on the west they may not have ever attacked Russia and may have remained allies with Russia.

  • @khancrow7015
    @khancrow7015 8 месяцев назад +1

    The Arab nations would be a hell of a lot more peaceful without the modern outsider situation we have now.

  • @thumper7047
    @thumper7047 8 месяцев назад

    Have you visited a doctor? Don't you have free health care? If your car starts acting up, you take it to a mechanic before it gets worse, same should hold true for your body, Mate.

  • @tahliasgoddaddy
    @tahliasgoddaddy 8 месяцев назад +3

    They knew that in order to win in Japan without the bomb, the allies would have had to invade. The casualties that would have resulted on both sides would have greatly dwarfed the deaths from the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Troops would have had to go door to door and despite what this video claimed, the predominant belief at the time was that the Japanese would have resisted practically to the last man/woman standing. The emperor was considered a god. While allied deaths would have been terribly high, Japanese deaths would have reached astronomical levels.
    That was the expert opinion in that day and I think they new better how the world worked in their time than so-called experts today applying modern day theory and sensitivities to an era they only know from text books.