In the 17th Century settlers went about thinking up a name for Rhode Island based off old accounts from explorers. However, they may have named the entire state incorrectly...
I remember that I (a 14-year old Norwegian) was very confused when I was about 9 or so, when I was watching a Animal Planet documentary about an American that was helping out dogs in Afghanistan. Because, in the documentary they were always talking about that this man was from "Rhode Island", and me, at the time not knowing English very well or anything about the USA, thought that the only place named "Rhode Island" in English was Rhodes in Greece (because it sounded very similar to the Norwegian "Rhodos"). But I thought that the man could not be from Rhodes, because he was speaking American. So I was very confused 😂😂😂
I say to do it solely so future generations think there was a war between Rhode Islanders and a bunch of South African countries. We can make a bunch of shit up, like saying they primarily fought in the middle of the Atlantic since neither one quite had the budget to go all the way across, and the federal government didn't help Rhode Island because they hadn't paid their taxes in 60 years.
@@Michiganman800I love the fact that pointing out the "offended on behalf of someone else" CAN be a valid discussion... what he did here is absolutely, yes, whiny projection. Love it. The original point about the word plantation is completely valid without whining about people getting upset about slavery. But the claim that Rhode Island didn't have slaves is patently false. They had the highest per capital ratio of slaves in the colonies and didn't start emancipation until the Gradual Emancipation Act of 1784.
@@PaulVinonaama You might be right, I'm not that deep into phonemes I'm afraid. I just tried to give a better approximation, one that doesn't trigger me as being "off".
@@PaulVinonaama Like I said, I'm aware of the nuance, but I don't think an American unfamiliar with the language will pick it up. That doesn't say I don't agree with you. Note if it had been "angstschreeuw" I wouldn't have bothered to comment.
They should have kept the part about Providence in the name. Now they have no claim to the mainland part of the state which is therefore terra nullius and may be claimed by anyone.
The name was officially changed in 2020, and but that point everyone just called it “Rhode island”, I never heard people refer to it by full name Even their anthem calls it Rhode Island, at this point everyone associates “Rhode Island with the state”, it makes more sense to just drop the “Providence Plantation” part
Hmm, I wonder if they got permission from the Federal governmemt for the name change? The state was officially admitted to these United States in 1790 with the name of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. Since this admission was an act of Congress, it seems that Congress would have to agree to the name change, most likely by passing a bill amending the original admission bill.
“rood” (meaning the colour red) in Dutch is pronounced “rhode” not “rude” as in the video. So we Dutch do say “rhode”. I’ve never made a link between the colour rood (red), Rhodos (Ρόδος) in Greece, and Rhode Island. Very interesting. According to google maps Rhode island (not Block island) is actually called Aquidneck. I never knew that. Not being from the US, I thought the island (Rhode) was a small state, and Providence was a city in its vicinity.
Greek 'rhodos' means 'rose' rather than 'red', but like 'rood' and similar words in many European languages, it comes from the same Indo-European root meaning 'red'.
For a brief while, Rhode Island was an actual island colony. During King Philip’s War, the Wampanoag Indians and their allies burnt down Providence and Warwick, forcing the entire settler population to retreat to Aquidneck Island. They lost a tenth of their population during the war.
As a fellow creator who makes similarish content, i really appreciate the visuals and editing style; simple yet unique. If this is what you can do on your 7th traditional video then I'll be excited to see what you have next in store for the channel. I like your stuff man, dont give up!
@@manilpwn Dutch double-vowels: oo = oh (like Roosevelt); aa = aw (like Baas, the common surname pronounced _boss,_ which also means boss); ee = ay (like Beethoven...ok, that's German but you know, Dutch/Deutsche, quite related)
Thats exactly what I think of when I think of people talking about Americans being "woke" in a negative connotation. Now idk if the Providence "plantation" specifically had slaves if so that would be valid but coming from another English speaking country where "plantation" is just a word meaning a large monocrop farm its just wierd to me that "plantation" would be offensive unless its a specific slave plantation.
@@eduardomoraes2650 I come from somewhere that has basically a "backwards" story with slavery and colonialism. That is there were indigenous nations here who were colonizing, raiding, slavers who per capita at their peak could have rivaled the atlantic slave trade and it was the British who ended slavery from day 1 of having an official colony. So im finding that certain words that are negatively charged elsewhere like "plantation" ended up taking on neutral connotations here because we lucked out on all the colonizers being abolitionists. In some of the best fruit growing climate some of the more massive orchards got called "plantations" by their owners instead to put emphasis on their enormous size compared to what youd think when you hear of a fruit orchard. It makes sense in other places but yeah to us plantation is just a neutral word for an agricultural establishment like "farm" that doesnt have automatic implications of slavery just size. Also we get 3 seconds of US history here because school system is mostly about our own history so I would ass-u-me that plantations up north wouldnt have had slaves because slavery was illegal in the north and legal down south.
During the ratification of the current US Constitution (1787), RI was the last state to ratify it. And given the autonomus nature of the States under the Articles of Confederation it could be argued that if a state didn't ratify, it was no longer in the Union. As the RI legislature delayed in ratification many in the media called it "Rogue Island." And some called for it to be partioned amoung it's neighboring states
The other states started threatening to charge tariffs at the borders… It could have become something like Monaco or San Marino! Other small states were eager to ratify as it entrenched their rights despite their small size. Delaware famously ratified first. Why did Rhode island drag its feet?
@@joedellinger9437 Idk why RI specifically was the last. I do know the then "new constituion" (our current one) was controversial at the time. The "Federalists" support the Constitution. The "Anti-Federalists" opposed the Constitution. Their cheif concern was the expansion of the powers of the central government. There probably was also an implicit difference of vision over what America should be. A small mini-civilization on the edge of the world? Or regional or global power?
I should also point out that it had already been agreed that if 9 of the then 13 states ratified the Constitution, it would pass. And the Articles of Confederation had already been scrapped. So if RI had pressed it's soveriegnty it probably would have been war. There was no other compact between the states availible.
It sickens me that the name Providence Plantation was removed for context that has nothing to do with the naming of the state. In case people don't know, a Plantation is simply a farming community and Providence Plantation was as the video states, just "god's farming community in the new world". Slavery had nothing to do with the naming of the state. While slaves have been brought to Rhode Island, the source of the name has nothing to do with cotton picking slavery in the south. Providence Plantation was the core foundation of the state and to remove it from the name for unrelated reasons is stupid sensibility.
@@billcook4768 It’s not about the name per say, it’s about the message. You must be quite dense to only have only taken away your comment from what they had.
@@billcook4768 Except we have been using it, it’s on my birth certificate. When people see that name they will question why that’s the full name of the state and likely look it up. The name change erases any form likelihood of curiosity that would come from that.
@@joaovictorrocha7379 As a descendant of slaves in America, I ask, why should anyone currently living care about context? What try to erase what existed in the past?
@@answerman9933 the thing is, almost all the modern states in the Americas were built over a structure based on the exploitation of enslaved people as the means of material reproduction. those anomalies are still being felt to this day. just search for the demographics data of the most rich people of our countries contrasted to the most marginalized groups. I think it is important to try to build a society that does not enable that kind of symbols. I'm also a descendent of enslaved people (I'm Brazilian btw).
Should've just called it Providence. Their capital can remain Providence so at the City/County/State level it would be Providence Providence Providence. This would be like Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Oklahoma.
You can tell the name change was done in haste and based in purely in emotion, because they could've called it "Providence and Aquidneck" which is both sensible and accurate. Or call it "Williams' Land" after the guy that made the state in the first place (though that name would be pretty rubbish)
I once owned a very nice cottage in Block Island which I lost in a hostile divorce to an ex-wife from Rhodes, Greece, whose middle name is Providentsia. I mean what are the chances? I now live in another nice house, this one a bit larger, in Naples FL with my third wife who was born in Naples Italy!
If you are just going to use part of the name, why not just call the state Rhode? It's still a longer name than Iowa or Ohio or Utah. And doesn't mislead people into thinking the whole state is an island rather than just a tiny little part of the state.
I can see why "plantation" is a dirty word, flip knows that caused enough agro in Ireland. Great video, you've possibly wound up a few Welsh nationalist, mind.
That’s the correct flag map of the Kingdom of England during the English colonisation of North America. Also it’s legally and constitutionality correct for the modern day as Wales is but an English principality incorporated in to the Kingdom of England which is one of two entities that make up the Kingdom of Great Britain which is also one of two entities which make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland which is now the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Yes, it’s more complex than that as both the entities of Great Britain and the UK are but legal entities or if you like, they are statutory entities. They only really exist in statute law and for some governmental aspects such as officers of state which were merged, because not all were merged, they don’t exist in the way that the three Kingdom’s of England(includes the principality of Wales), Ireland and Scotland do as they from the basis of the constitution which really is three constitution’s, three Kingdom’s/Crown’s held by one Monarch. The UK maybe a unitary state but it’s not nor has ever been a single entity in its own right.
I could imagine it being called Narragansett after the Narragansett Bay which is an integral part of the state’s culture and history and forms much of its unique shape. Much better name imo
We don't talk about Arkansas, those people are nuts. Like if you go there you might never come back and all the locals will insist they never saw you and that whoever's looking for you should also leave before they find out where you are the hard way. I once read an account by an Arkansas man detailing how he shot a doe non-fatally and proceeded to do abominable things I can't ever repeat after hitting it in the head with his rifle butt to make it stop resisting. After finishing he of course butchered and ate it afterward, and proceeded to feed its meat to his friends and family without telling anyone else what he did to that poor animal. Oh and Bill Clinton's from there. Kinda explains a lot in hindsight.
And I'm pretty sure the name Kansas is related to the name for that state. Funny how one S is pronounced, but the other isn't, and that's not even going into the stress placement. Then again, there are a lot of really pointless silent letters in English.
Easiest answer was early Europeans explored the coast and thought they were on an island. "Isle of Rhodes" "Rood Eiland". Then the English named their plot of land "Providence" but was too vague and explorers where using maps of "Rhode Island" to chart the land so it became "Rhode Island and Providence" which is now the modern state of Rhode Island. Same issue happened to California which was named for an island but isn't.
What? Roed Eiland/Rued island? Rood eiland in Dutch is the same as Rhode island in English. The Dutch boot is the same as the english boat. The Dutch doe is the English do. Please do not pretend to speak Dutch if you don't.
@@manilpwnThe most boring names are North/South Dakota. Why are there two of them for a place barely anyone lives? Indeed, they could be combined with Montana and Wyoming to create one with nearly enough people to be called a state called Mostly Prairie.
In 2020 they actually wanted to rename the state "Road Island" because Rhode was seen as racist dog whistle in reference to Cecile Rhodes and Rhodesia.
"Plantation" in itself isn't racist but in this context, it is because it refers to slave plantations. Not every plantation is based on slavery but this one is. Context matters.
@@modmaker7617 The farming colony of Providence wasn't founded just to farm slaves thou. Cotton farms in the south were built to house slaves. Plantation defined by the people of Rhode Island back then simply means a civilization built around farming. Context does matter and just because people don't like a word, doesn't mean anything to me. It sickens me that the name changed because of unrelated reasons.
@@androzani So it doesn't matter if others are offended, only if you are? When you're offended, then it's worthy? When did you become the King? Something must wrong with you if you're "sickened" by a name change, that has zero bearing on your life. You sound like a fool. Also, they didn't "farm slaves thou", whatever that means. But Rhode Island was heavily involved with slaves, as they had slaves, sold slaves, (look up Brown family and Slave trade, as in Brown University and Brown and Sharpe, and Newport slave markets), and that's where the name comes from. When the majority of the public living here, (I live in RI), decided to change it, they/we did, and somehow that majority decision "sickens" you? Really? "Sickens"? What about the people sickened by the name? They should just deal with it because it "doesn't mean anything to" you? So if it means anything to them, that doesn't matter, unless it matters to you? Grow up.
An actual excerpt: "The first enslaved Africans entered Rhode Island sometime after 1638. Though their numbers were initially very small, they were conspicuous enough to attract the attention of the Rhode Island General Court, which in 1652 passed a law abolishing African slavery."
I remember that I (a 14-year old Norwegian) was very confused when I was about 9 or so, when I was watching a Animal Planet documentary about an American that was helping out dogs in Afghanistan. Because, in the documentary they were always talking about that this man was from "Rhode Island", and me, at the time not knowing English very well or anything about the USA, thought that the only place named "Rhode Island" in English was Rhodes in Greece (because it sounded very similar to the Norwegian "Rhodos"). But I thought that the man could not be from Rhodes, because he was speaking American. So I was very confused 😂😂😂
The state's not an island, so just rename it "Rhodesia" That name is no longer used, and sounds good.
And "Rhodesia" has not a bit of a racist connotation ;-)
I say to do it solely so future generations think there was a war between Rhode Islanders and a bunch of South African countries. We can make a bunch of shit up, like saying they primarily fought in the middle of the Atlantic since neither one quite had the budget to go all the way across, and the federal government didn't help Rhode Island because they hadn't paid their taxes in 60 years.
I mean, Georgia is a country...
the Ocean State...
I think it should be renamed “Petoria” after famed Rhode Island resident, Peter Griffin
Just call it "State of Family Guy"
It was almost called Peepookakashire if you remember your history
Nah, Peterland.
@@Mirokuofnite Like the gay bar down by the airport?
Easily confused with Pretoria in South Africa.
Not all plantations had slaves. Plymouth Plantation is an example.
true
@@JohnnyAngel8
Don't let facts get on the way of taking offense at something
@@Michiganman800 No one is more offended than the person whining about someone else being offended.
@@Adamdidit
Heavy Sigh
I think you might be projecting.
@@Michiganman800I love the fact that pointing out the "offended on behalf of someone else" CAN be a valid discussion... what he did here is absolutely, yes, whiny projection.
Love it.
The original point about the word plantation is completely valid without whining about people getting upset about slavery.
But the claim that Rhode Island didn't have slaves is patently false. They had the highest per capital ratio of slaves in the colonies and didn't start emancipation until the Gradual Emancipation Act of 1784.
We should call it "Also Massachusetts"
Massachusetts squared
South Massachusetts
East Connecticut
We should start calling it Affordable Boston (plus Newport)
Could've been avoided if they just called it "The state of Providence Plantations and Rhode Island".
In Dutch you don't pronounce it like "rude island" but more like "road island".
Actually I think it is [ro:d]. (I'm not Dutch, however.)
@@PaulVinonaama You might be right, I'm not that deep into phonemes I'm afraid. I just tried to give a better approximation, one that doesn't trigger me as being "off".
@@HansBezemer I agree that "road" is closer than "rude", but road is pronounced approximately [roud], with an u sound.
@@PaulVinonaama Like I said, I'm aware of the nuance, but I don't think an American unfamiliar with the language will pick it up. That doesn't say I don't agree with you. Note if it had been "angstschreeuw" I wouldn't have bothered to comment.
"Rood" in Dutch is pronounced exactly like "rote" in English
They should have kept the part about Providence in the name. Now they have no claim to the mainland part of the state which is therefore terra nullius and may be claimed by anyone.
But Providence is the capital so...
@@ntrgc89True but it wouldn’t be the first time a City shared the same name as its state/country, so it’d probably just be called Providence City.
The name was officially changed in 2020, and but that point everyone just called it “Rhode island”, I never heard people refer to it by full name
Even their anthem calls it Rhode Island, at this point everyone associates “Rhode Island with the state”, it makes more sense to just drop the “Providence Plantation” part
New York is licking its lips about now
What about all those states named for now-dead people? Are they fair game?
Hmm, I wonder if they got permission from the Federal governmemt for the name change? The state was officially admitted to these United States in 1790 with the name of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. Since this admission was an act of Congress, it seems that Congress would have to agree to the name change, most likely by passing a bill amending the original admission bill.
never considered that. i don't know if that could result in someone determined creating a legal case
“rood” (meaning the colour red) in Dutch is pronounced “rhode” not “rude” as in the video. So we Dutch do say “rhode”.
I’ve never made a link between the colour rood (red), Rhodos (Ρόδος) in Greece, and Rhode Island. Very interesting.
According to google maps Rhode island (not Block island) is actually called Aquidneck. I never knew that. Not being from the US, I thought the island (Rhode) was a small state, and Providence was a city in its vicinity.
Greek 'rhodos' means 'rose' rather than 'red', but like 'rood' and similar words in many European languages, it comes from the same Indo-European root meaning 'red'.
For a brief while, Rhode Island was an actual island colony. During King Philip’s War, the Wampanoag Indians and their allies burnt down Providence and Warwick, forcing the entire settler population to retreat to Aquidneck Island. They lost a tenth of their population during the war.
As a fellow creator who makes similarish content, i really appreciate the visuals and editing style; simple yet unique. If this is what you can do on your 7th traditional video then I'll be excited to see what you have next in store for the channel. I like your stuff man, dont give up!
thanks so much man!!
Rood eiland (the dutch name) should be pronounced like Rhode island and not like Root island.
I see, thanks!
@@manilpwn Dutch double-vowels: oo = oh (like Roosevelt); aa = aw (like Baas, the common surname pronounced _boss,_ which also means boss); ee = ay (like Beethoven...ok, that's German but you know, Dutch/Deutsche, quite related)
@@dixonpinfold2582 Beethoven is literally a Dutch surname, despite him being from Germany
Thats exactly what I think of when I think of people talking about Americans being "woke" in a negative connotation. Now idk if the Providence "plantation" specifically had slaves if so that would be valid but coming from another English speaking country where "plantation" is just a word meaning a large monocrop farm its just wierd to me that "plantation" would be offensive unless its a specific slave plantation.
Agree. Plymouth Plantation is an example of one that never had slaves.
i think if the vote was held today it might not have passed. it didn't in 2010. you have to remember that 2020 was a very weird year
According to chat gpt it did had slaves. And plantations don't just mean a large crop, but mostly a cash crop, which usually had slave labor.
If the Minneapolis incident didn’t happen that year the name may not have changed.
@@eduardomoraes2650
I come from somewhere that has basically a "backwards" story with slavery and colonialism. That is there were indigenous nations here who were colonizing, raiding, slavers who per capita at their peak could have rivaled the atlantic slave trade and it was the British who ended slavery from day 1 of having an official colony. So im finding that certain words that are negatively charged elsewhere like "plantation" ended up taking on neutral connotations here because we lucked out on all the colonizers being abolitionists. In some of the best fruit growing climate some of the more massive orchards got called "plantations" by their owners instead to put emphasis on their enormous size compared to what youd think when you hear of a fruit orchard. It makes sense in other places but yeah to us plantation is just a neutral word for an agricultural establishment like "farm" that doesnt have automatic implications of slavery just size.
Also we get 3 seconds of US history here because school system is mostly about our own history so I would ass-u-me that plantations up north wouldnt have had slaves because slavery was illegal in the north and legal down south.
During the ratification of the current US Constitution (1787), RI was the last state to ratify it. And given the autonomus nature of the States under the Articles of Confederation it could be argued that if a state didn't ratify, it was no longer in the Union. As the RI legislature delayed in ratification many in the media called it "Rogue Island." And some called for it to be partioned amoung it's neighboring states
Ah that’s cool I didn’t know that!
The other states started threatening to charge tariffs at the borders…
It could have become something like Monaco or San Marino!
Other small states were eager to ratify as it entrenched their rights despite their small size. Delaware famously ratified first. Why did Rhode island drag its feet?
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Idk why RI specifically was the last. I do know the then "new constituion" (our current one) was controversial at the time. The "Federalists" support the Constitution. The "Anti-Federalists" opposed the Constitution. Their cheif concern was the expansion of the powers of the central government. There probably was also an implicit difference of vision over what America should be. A small mini-civilization on the edge of the world? Or regional or global power?
I should also point out that it had already been agreed that if 9 of the then 13 states ratified the Constitution, it would pass. And the Articles of Confederation had already been scrapped. So if RI had pressed it's soveriegnty it probably would have been war. There was no other compact between the states availible.
Clearly you've been around the Block.
What if Jennifer Lopez is secretly from Block Island, and was trying to communicate that to us with “Jenny From the Block”
The Island was named after Cecil Rhodes
(I love spreading disinformation)
its where you go to fulfill your rhodes scholarship
It sickens me that the name Providence Plantation was removed for context that has nothing to do with the naming of the state.
In case people don't know, a Plantation is simply a farming community and Providence Plantation was as the video states, just "god's farming community in the new world". Slavery had nothing to do with the naming of the state. While slaves have been brought to Rhode Island, the source of the name has nothing to do with cotton picking slavery in the south. Providence Plantation was the core foundation of the state and to remove it from the name for unrelated reasons is stupid sensibility.
It sickens you that a formal name that nobody used for hundreds of years changed to the name people actually used?
@@billcook4768 It’s not about the name per say, it’s about the message. You must be quite dense to only have only taken away your comment from what they had.
@@Lawnmower737 What is the “message” that sickens you?
@@billcook4768 Except we have been using it, it’s on my birth certificate. When people see that name they will question why that’s the full name of the state and likely look it up. The name change erases any form likelihood of curiosity that would come from that.
Really interesting bit of history
Still a better state-name than Idaho
Idaho's name is the only state name that has no known language.. so Idaho is literally gibberish
Colorado dodged a bullet there, honestly
No, Yudaho.
Plantation is just another word for colony. Just being a colony is not necessarily racist.
Neither is monkey but some people go into seizures when you say it. This is our world.
but in the context of the european colonization of the americas, both concepts are intrinsically related
@@joaovictorrocha7379 As a descendant of slaves in America, I ask, why should anyone currently living care about context? What try to erase what existed in the past?
@@hughjass1044why do you need to call people monkeys though?
@@answerman9933 the thing is, almost all the modern states in the Americas were built over a structure based on the exploitation of enslaved people as the means of material reproduction. those anomalies are still being felt to this day. just search for the demographics data of the most rich people of our countries contrasted to the most marginalized groups. I think it is important to try to build a society that does not enable that kind of symbols. I'm also a descendent of enslaved people (I'm Brazilian btw).
Should've just called it Providence. Their capital can remain Providence so at the City/County/State level it would be Providence Providence Providence. This would be like Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Oklahoma.
If majority of it is Providence, and small part Rhode Island, why not just call it Providence then???
You can tell the name change was done in haste and based in purely in emotion, because they could've called it "Providence and Aquidneck" which is both sensible and accurate.
Or call it "Williams' Land" after the guy that made the state in the first place (though that name would be pretty rubbish)
The chose Rhode Island for the state name because that’s the name everybody used (except in some official documents) for hundreds of years.
I once owned a very nice cottage in Block Island which I lost in a hostile divorce to an ex-wife from Rhodes, Greece, whose middle name is Providentsia. I mean what are the chances? I now live in another nice house, this one a bit larger, in Naples FL with my third wife who was born in Naples Italy!
That is a pretty crazy coincidence bro haha. Good to see you got a nice house still
Is her middle name "Miami"?😂
If you are just going to use part of the name, why not just call the state Rhode? It's still a longer name than Iowa or Ohio or Utah. And doesn't mislead people into thinking the whole state is an island rather than just a tiny little part of the state.
Roague Island (lol another nickname)
I literally thought Rhode Island was just an island until I went through it on the train. (I’m not American)
I can see why "plantation" is a dirty word, flip knows that caused enough agro in Ireland. Great video, you've possibly wound up a few Welsh nationalist, mind.
Thanks! I think I drew England like that because at the time Wales was part of the Kingdom of England instead of a constituent country
That’s the correct flag map of the Kingdom of England during the English colonisation of North America.
Also it’s legally and constitutionality correct for the modern day as Wales is but an English principality incorporated in to the Kingdom of England which is one of two entities that make up the Kingdom of Great Britain which is also one of two entities which make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland which is now the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Yes, it’s more complex than that as both the entities of Great Britain and the UK are but legal entities or if you like, they are statutory entities. They only really exist in statute law and for some governmental aspects such as officers of state which were merged, because not all were merged, they don’t exist in the way that the three Kingdom’s of England(includes the principality of Wales), Ireland and Scotland do as they from the basis of the constitution which really is three constitution’s, three Kingdom’s/Crown’s held by one Monarch.
The UK maybe a unitary state but it’s not nor has ever been a single entity in its own right.
Spectacular video, remember me when you're famous
one day my boy
@@manilpwn thank you, good sir
I could imagine it being called Narragansett after the Narragansett Bay which is an integral part of the state’s culture and history and forms much of its unique shape. Much better name imo
could be cool! i like just providence
Narragansett is taken - the name of a beer.
I’m from Rhode Island
That means you agree with everything in this video
i am from rhodes, the island
Arkansas has to be the worst state name. I like to pronounce it phonetically just to annoy americans for mispronouncing melbourne and brisbane.
We don't talk about Arkansas, those people are nuts. Like if you go there you might never come back and all the locals will insist they never saw you and that whoever's looking for you should also leave before they find out where you are the hard way.
I once read an account by an Arkansas man detailing how he shot a doe non-fatally and proceeded to do abominable things I can't ever repeat after hitting it in the head with his rifle butt to make it stop resisting. After finishing he of course butchered and ate it afterward, and proceeded to feed its meat to his friends and family without telling anyone else what he did to that poor animal.
Oh and Bill Clinton's from there. Kinda explains a lot in hindsight.
And I'm pretty sure the name Kansas is related to the name for that state. Funny how one S is pronounced, but the other isn't, and that's not even going into the stress placement. Then again, there are a lot of really pointless silent letters in English.
I'm disappointed to learn that they dropped the "Providence Plantations" part. The name is wrong geographically then.
Easiest answer was early Europeans explored the coast and thought they were on an island. "Isle of Rhodes" "Rood Eiland". Then the English named their plot of land "Providence" but was too vague and explorers where using maps of "Rhode Island" to chart the land so it became "Rhode Island and Providence" which is now the modern state of Rhode Island. Same issue happened to California which was named for an island but isn't.
I would have voted for FloriDuh, or MassOfTwoShits, but what do I know.
What? Roed Eiland/Rued island? Rood eiland in Dutch is the same as Rhode island in English. The Dutch boot is the same as the english boat. The Dutch doe is the English do.
Please do not pretend to speak Dutch if you don't.
As a fellow new englander, that map in the thumbnail had me in tears.
Place - demonym
England - English
New England - New Englander
Just merge every thing east of New York into one state of “New England”
They’re all too small to be individual states
They have millions of people though many with higher populations than western states
@@manilpwnThe most boring names are North/South Dakota. Why are there two of them for a place barely anyone lives? Indeed, they could be combined with Montana and Wyoming to create one with nearly enough people to be called a state called Mostly Prairie.
Only if we can balance it by also merging a bunch of low population western states together.
As a Rhode Islander I refuse to be lumped in to a single state with the likes of Connecticutites.
They should rename it again, to "Road Plantation" and continue the history of pointless nomenclature modifications
They should never have changed the name based on a knee jerk political movement's reaction to a crime.
'We're off on the road to Rhode Island, we're having the time of our lives'.
To this day, even if it doesn’t technically mean much, Rhode Island is the only state that has officially changed its name
There should be laws! Also: why is Kansas City not even IN Kansas.
Oddly, there is a Kansas City in Kansas, just west of Kansas City, Missouri. 😮
What if the state just changes its name to Narragansett? Problem solved.
Just name it "San Daniel" or any good Hispanic name already
In 2020 they actually wanted to rename the state "Road Island" because Rhode was seen as racist dog whistle in reference to Cecile Rhodes and Rhodesia.
I feel like Providence would've been a just fine name.
0:23 Rood (Dutch for red) is pronounced something like rote - so it sounds closer to Rhode than you made it sound.
As someone who lives in Rhode Island, they should have just named it Providence so the state and capital had the same name
Most underrated state in US (im european)
So Rhode Island is not just an Island state?
Rhode Island is neither a road, nor an island... discuss.
Cecil Rhodes was not involved
The small state with a big attitude
I move that we make its old nickname its real name: "Rogue's Island"
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3:14. *NICE.*
OK, fine. But explain coffee milk. What the hell, people?
Coffeemilk is delicious.
As an Englishman who visits regularly I can attest to Coffeemilk being delicious,but the official drink of RI should be a lemon Dells.
If we were to change every name that had some connotation to slavery that would be a lot of work.
The stupidity of linking the word plantation with slavery is what truly baffles me here.
Well that can be answered by the stupidity of the average American in the 2020s, but that just leads to further bafflement.
"Plantation" in itself isn't racist but in this context, it is because it refers to slave plantations. Not every plantation is based on slavery but this one is. Context matters.
@@modmaker7617 The farming colony of Providence wasn't founded just to farm slaves thou. Cotton farms in the south were built to house slaves. Plantation defined by the people of Rhode Island back then simply means a civilization built around farming. Context does matter and just because people don't like a word, doesn't mean anything to me. It sickens me that the name changed because of unrelated reasons.
The word plantation has strong connotations to slave economy
@@androzani So it doesn't matter if others are offended, only if you are? When you're offended, then it's worthy? When did you become the King? Something must wrong with you if you're "sickened" by a name change, that has zero bearing on your life. You sound like a fool. Also, they didn't "farm slaves thou", whatever that means. But Rhode Island was heavily involved with slaves, as they had slaves, sold slaves, (look up Brown family and Slave trade, as in Brown University and Brown and Sharpe, and Newport slave markets), and that's where the name comes from. When the majority of the public living here, (I live in RI), decided to change it, they/we did, and somehow that majority decision "sickens" you? Really? "Sickens"? What about the people sickened by the name? They should just deal with it because it "doesn't mean anything to" you? So if it means anything to them, that doesn't matter, unless it matters to you? Grow up.
It was named after the explorer from Rhodesia who originally discovered it
I never even knew that there was more to the state's name than just "Rhode Island". It was never once addressed in any map or geography lesson I took.
They might as well just change it to something cool like Batman Island.
imo that makes it one of the best names, cool messy history
Bro is neither a road OR an island 😂😂😂
Why yes, it makes perfect sense............ugh!
Here is an excerpt from a paper on the history of slavery in Rhode Island
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An actual excerpt: "The first enslaved Africans entered Rhode Island sometime after 1638. Though their numbers were initially very small, they were conspicuous enough to attract the attention of the Rhode Island General Court, which in 1652 passed a law abolishing African slavery."
I obviously did no research for my comment. I appreciate the effort you put into replying for me.
It’s funny how you took time to post that without taking a few seconds to check and see.
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