@suchafknladyyy5780 nobody else can be and it is a connection just like every other character. it makes perfect sense, in a miriad of way, it's just your IQ is too low to understand the macroverse
I always got the vibe since Matty gave Lily the turtle charm to mean that Lily was originally meant to die by Pennywise and Matty was going to be the one to join the main crew, but Matty giving Lily the protective charm changed fate
In an alternate universe, Matty didn't have feelings for Lily and kept the turtle for himself. He joins the main crew soon after her and most of the OG crew's death. :(
Perhaps she was only there to keep Margie alive and not to change the course of events that led to the death of Pennywise. Maybe she is part of the storyline that we don't see, Maturin. He holds the Universe and everything in it. He thinks and dreams things into existence. Lilly had sooo many gifts in the Dark Tower series.
I just don’t understand why she was giving so much main character energy throughout the first season when we later found out that Richie’s mom was in the group and then she didn’t even get an ending
Idk ır you know about it but they rerecord some scenes when Bill skarskard decide to come back as pennywise they decide to do the time travel plot and lily got sidelined after they made marge and rich in love
@AI-dp3rd they all was important her connection to the the boy and the mentality hospital and the real pennywise daughter that was Lilly storyline it was completed so they moved on to the other kids.
I think she was just the centre of the group. similar to Bill, the kid who would have some sort of motive to keep persisting the group towards Pennywise. While she was a center of the group, I’m not too sure if they intended for her to be the main character, I don’t really think the show has one main character, I think it was meant to be split up amongst characters
I think her ending was fine. The other members of the group had stories that progressed throughout the season and added to the story. While Lilly was very important about initiating the story, she didn't really add much after that. Will sticks around to pass on the Losers Club arc. Marge and Ritchie have the new Ritchie in common. Ronnie didn't really add much but she does show that there is a chance out of Derry. Lilly made her peace and that's good enough.
Lilly deserved the best of all endings. She had been severely traumatized by the guilt of her fathers death, a pill popping apathetic mother, bullied at school because of her breakdown due to the lost of her father than dealing with pennywise and still having people disrespect her and call her crazy. I really wish she just changed her name, got out of derry and never looked back.
I personally dont think Lily has a connection to the Losers club. I think Lily's father will be in season 2 and pennywise will be targeting him in order to stop his inevitable death since Lily was the one who picked up the dagger that ended up confining IT once again. This will probably be a theme in the show. Each time Pennywise fails he tries to kill the ancestors each one being prevented by maturins invisible guiding hand.
I think Lilly mom will also be there to because and remember Lilly try to get more info about missing childrens in her days but Lilly try to ask her but every time she ask her she gets mad and takes her back to Jupiter Hill think about
One problem he aren't like pennywise that he goes to earth.Because the turtle has more important things to do then go to stop pennywise himself. So what he does is create loserclub to kill pennywise.Loserclub have shine not strong as dick but its enough to sense danger.The turtle is also protecting the loserclub. If you wanna see the turtle more it will be dark tower series
@sowadsowad6306 where was that protective when Eddie got stabbed you think a damn shield would've appeared i feel like Eddie should've survived like they didn't have to redo everything that happened in 1989 flim they could've atleast made seem that was a killer blow but in last second the turtle protect ed bc let be real ed is the strongest among them then it the girl it just he scary 😅 like they miss so many opportunities with both chapters
I think the idea of Lilly being Bev's mother would be lazy writing. It's OK that two of the 80s losers' parents are in the series, but not everyone needs to be connected that way.
@veliahtsehzademehmet704 it's not weird at all. Just cuz you're a main character, doesn't mean you're supposed to be connected. Besides, lilly might still connect from season 2. Maybe one of her parents is gonna be a part of the 1935 cycle. Lilly played a huge role in Pennywise's defeat in S1. So it would make sense for pennywise to target her bloodline in S2.
@veliahtsehzademehmet704 yes pennywise might target her bloodline in season 2. But I don't think he will succeed. He will fail just like he failed to kill Marge. Cuz if he manages to end Lilly's bloodline, he will be able to prevent his fate in the first season. Lilly is the person that finds the daggers. And she is one of the kids that defeat pennywise in welcome to derry finale. If pennywise manages to end her bloodline, he will change his fate and escape Derry in S1, which will ultimately lead to the losers club not being able to kill him either. Which is obviously not happening. He can't prevent his inevitable death. He can only try.
Yaa it makes sense.. to be honest it's a loop that he is trapped in.. if he had succeeded in any of the past events then it chapter 2 and it welcome to darry would have never happened.. its like grandfathers paradox.. He knows he's fate yet he fails to change it because any decision he makes leads to that same very fate.. It's like a man who has seen his future can't change it because him seeing his future thats what leads him to that very future I don't know if it is making any sense but the theory is amazing 🤣
I would like to believe Lilly is the mother of bill denbrough who left Derry for like a decade or so and came back after her husband convinced her to move there where she forgot about the events of pennywise
I think they’re saving Bill’s ancestor for later. They could do two losers a season and do everyone but Ben, since in Andy’s story he’s the one that’s not from Derry.
@kaleahcollins4567 your wrong cuz Beverly’s mom name is elfrida and bill’s mom name is Sharon so YALL need to stop assuming stuff you need to search it up first
In "Welcome to Derry" episode one or two, they showed a red-headed girl put an "I Love You" note (or something like that) on Alvin's locker (obviously Alfreda), showing that Lily was not Bev's mother. Not sure why people keep talking about this when there is definitive proof that she isn't.
You know with the tv series (and potential for 2 more seasons) "It" became a full blown franchise. With that comes the fandom and fandoms be crazy when it comes to fandom theories. I'm sure some people will send death threats to the Muschietti siblings after they announce Lilly is not Bev's mom 😑
@suchafknladyyy5780 A true "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand that Lilly is Bev's mom" moment 🤣 I bet they are still smirking 😅
@LithK.-Li-3they really thought they did something 😂😂I laughed in my reading room surrounded by my Stephen King collection the comment section is a wiiiild place man
Actually didn’t understand what Lily’s purpose in this show was. She had the turtle bracelet which I thought with them hinting to her having the shining and doing something with it, but she was just literally around the whole series.
Yeah, I think it plays out as a change of fate. Matty gives Lilly his protection charm (the turtle) and unknowingly makes himself vulnerable. Pennywise then uses Matty as a way to lure Lilly, Teddy and Phil at first because he knows they all feel guilty. I guess he thought he could get into Lilly's head with torments of her father, Matty, Teddy, Phil and Susie and later Ronnie and Marge. Lilly was mentally weak, therefore good to use as "bait" for the other kids.
I feel like lily’s dad is going to be a survivor in the past cycle and pennywise killed him in this season, which is why it could take the fathers form. Also think that about Ronnie’s mom
In addition to Ronnie's mom and Lily's dad we also potentially have Matty's mom (I'm ignoring his dad as it's heavily implied he is a terrible person) and even Phill's and Susie's mom. It would be interesting if the survivors of season 2 would all be doomed to die before the next cycle or have their future offspring killed.
@LithK.-Li-3 Its very possible. I do think that they'll be in the show, but not in a losers club capacity. only because pennywise attacked lily as her dad and Ronnie as her mom. since pennywise can only glimmer people he's killed
Lily simply left Derry and forgot what happened. Just like all the losers did after chapter 1 (except for Mike). They would’ve never came back to face Pennywise again had it not been for the blood oath. So the truth is much simpler than any theory about her being a mom to some character from the 1989 cycle. Lily simply left Derry and forgot about Pennywise and all the supernatural stuff, which probably for the best.
Maybe the girl who carved Alvin's name died and Lillian took her name since everyone thought she was insane, making her Beverly's mom and making the end scene make sense
Seeing Sophia Lillis return at the end as Beverly was breathtaking. In the days since, there are videos here on RUclips that claim the original concept had ALL of the 1980's-era Loser's Club return. I'd love to know how they intended to pull _that_ off, especially considering they're now in their twenties. Either way, this show really pulled off the whole TV-series-adapted-from-feature-film challenge more successfully than anyone could have realistically expected them to. It: Welcome to Derry perfectly pulled off the formula that's made _It_ so beloved for forty years now and I, for one, am so eager for the next installment.
After all these things, Lily's emotional trauma is almost palpable. Pennywise's illusions keep ripping open the scars of her father's and best friend's deaths, while she's simultaneously bombarded with pressure and gaslighting. The character is so singular that I'm genuinely curious about her trajectory as an adult: will she find redemption, or will the childhood wounds finally break her?
8:07 aww Ingrid painted her as a child when she's Periwinkle, holding her father Bob Gray's forearm!! i knew it was something to do with a clown when i first watched it but after pausing this video i can clearly see, it is! awwww... that's bittersweet...
I truly don’t understand the mixed or negative feelings toward Lily. Her father died, her mother blames her for his death and she has a *shape shifting, other worldly cosmic being* stalking her with intent to *kill her*. Anybody who pretends like they’d be able to be rationale and level headed as a prepubescent teen, if they were in this situation themselves, is nothing but a damn liar.
That psychic hold is really stop. If most of those kids whose seen and survive Pennywise attacks decided to stay living in town when they had a cbace to leave.
I think Pennywise actually kept Lilly alive because it was more or less her actions which either directly or indirectly brought Marge, Will, Rich and Ronnie together, who were actually Pennywise's original targets. Also during the fire at the Black Spot, Marge, Rich, Ronnie and Will were present in addition to Dick Halloran, who managed to get inside Pennywise's head and Pennywise himself went there to pay them a visit. It's possible that Pennywise didn't see Lilly as a threat unlike Marge who later became Richie's mother, Will who became Mike's father and possibly Ronnie since it's speculated she was Mike's mother. So Lilly was like an important pawn in Pennywise's twisted game and that's why Pennywise kept her alive. He never expected that Lilly would actually become one of his biggest threats since she found the dagger.
I always believed if will never stayed in derry he would have never died in the movie for that house fire and I think Leroy started killing the sheep because he was sad his son died.
Lilly pretty much told us what happened to her when she said, "It'll be some else's fight." She knew that in 27 years, she would be far removed from the traumatic events of her childhood and not want anything to do with Pennywise again. For someone as tortured as her, she would have embraced the forgetting aspect of the cycle. Also, I think she would have chosen to not have children because doing so would mean they would end up being hunted by Pennywise. I think Lilly assumed as much of a normal life as she could in the remainder of her teens. She moved out of Derry in the 1970s and lived the rest of her life as a very private and somewhat reclusive person. If she heard about Pennywise's return in 1988, she remained resolved that it was someone else's fight. Because Lilly is Welcome to Derry's main protagonist, some fans think her story should go beyond the events of 1962. I disagree, my opinion is not every Welcome to Derry kid needs have children who are important in later timelines or return as an adult. Lily's story ends in the 1962 timeline as far as I'm concerned. With that said it is possible relatives in her family tree may have important rolls in the 1935 and 1908 timelines.
People are stretching the "Lillian = Elfrida" headcanon too far. It is much more likely that the random redhead shown in one episode, was Elfrida. The girl slipping a love letter into a boy's locker, most likely Alvin Marsh's locker.
Although Lilly’s ended may seem weak I think it’s perfect, all she wanted was to find clarity while everyone was making her slowly believe she was crazy and she wanted to be at peace with her fathers death enough to be able to visit him, so I get the way her chapter ends in the story while everyone else goes on to carry on their chapters to continue the fight when Pennywise returns
i was always thinking Lilly was her mother who hung herself in that scene but we will never know. However Lilly could have changed her name to try and forget her past
Lilly did say it is someone else's fight. Maybe she did not want to forget the friends she lost so she stayed in Derry, but changed her name to throw Pennywise off if he comes back for her. Also maybe to protect her daughter too who she knows is fated to cross paths with Pennywise.
I wonder if IT will reveal he scared Lilly into never having children due to pennywise making sure the fight wouldn’t ever touch her again. Pennywise would be the only one who would know about a timeline with one extra loser club member.
It would of been cool yes, a poetic esc ending that lily can never escape the one thing i was thinking is lily isn't a redhead so that was a big giveaway
One thing that also majorly debunks the “Lily is Beverly’s mom” is simply the hair color. Alvin has brown hair and Beverly’s mom has red hair (as seen in the ending and since Alvin says Beverly “looks a lot like her”.) And although both have curly hair, its very unlikely for someone with brown hair and someone with black hair to produce a child with bright red hair. Idk, I always thought that part was obvious. :/
I actually heard some sad news that the actor of Mrs kirsch passed away may she rest in peace
She did. Before the show even came out.
Yep. They put an RIP to her at the end of episode 8.
She died in June of this year.
@mszhellfyre5743that's so sad she didn't even get to see the masterpiece, like Mrs kirsch said in the show "no one ever truly dies"
@uncensored1948my heart sank when I found out that she did pass away she was a horror legend
Lilly was by far the most tortured by Pennywise. She obviously moved on and lived happily ever after.
no, she is Bev mother. She was put again in asylum and killed herself
@yugiohfanatic1964 no, bevs mom is named elfrida marsh
@yugiohfanatic1964 unfortunately no lol not all of them have to be the losers moms 😂😂
@suchafknladyyy5780 nobody else can be and it is a connection just like every other character. it makes perfect sense, in a miriad of way, it's just your IQ is too low to understand the macroverse
@suchafknladyyy5780 yes she is, it makes perfect sense, it completes and connects the story thread.
I always got the vibe since Matty gave Lily the turtle charm to mean that Lily was originally meant to die by Pennywise and Matty was going to be the one to join the main crew, but Matty giving Lily the protective charm changed fate
In an alternate universe, Matty didn't have feelings for Lily and kept the turtle for himself. He joins the main crew soon after her and most of the OG crew's death. :(
Perhaps she was only there to keep Margie alive and not to change the course of events that led to the death of Pennywise. Maybe she is part of the storyline that we don't see, Maturin. He holds the Universe and everything in it. He thinks and dreams things into existence. Lilly had sooo many gifts in the Dark Tower series.
The charm itself was not protected it served as a symbol for the blessing of maturin
Nice vibe but I can change it
I just don’t understand why she was giving so much main character energy throughout the first season when we later found out that Richie’s mom was in the group and then she didn’t even get an ending
She was the connection to introduce the psych hospital I guess
Idk ır you know about it but they rerecord some scenes when Bill skarskard decide to come back as pennywise they decide to do the time travel plot and lily got sidelined after they made marge and rich in love
Maybe as a misdirection, or maybe because she was such a good actor they gave her more of a spotlight.
@AI-dp3rd they all was important her connection to the the boy and the mentality hospital and the real pennywise daughter that was Lilly storyline it was completed so they moved on to the other kids.
I think she was just the centre of the group. similar to Bill, the kid who would have some sort of motive to keep persisting the group towards Pennywise. While she was a center of the group, I’m not too sure if they intended for her to be the main character, I don’t really think the show has one main character, I think it was meant to be split up amongst characters
Kinda weird that Lilly basically had no strong ending compared to the other characters
so what happened to her
Right? She was central in season 1.
I think her ending was fine. The other members of the group had stories that progressed throughout the season and added to the story. While Lilly was very important about initiating the story, she didn't really add much after that. Will sticks around to pass on the Losers Club arc. Marge and Ritchie have the new Ritchie in common. Ronnie didn't really add much but she does show that there is a chance out of Derry. Lilly made her peace and that's good enough.
Right lol. She went through Hella bullsht.
It was fine but they couldve done better
Riding the IT wave 10 videos per day
Lilly couldn't have grown up to be Beverly's mother. Elfrida is seen in episode one or two writing "Elfrida loves Al Marsh" on the locker.
She is more then likely bills mother she isn't mentioned too much in the book
Elfrida ? No wonder she offed herself.
@tylermcclain5332I didn’t think of that. I just assumed she was Beverly’s mother.
Kinda wish she played a central role in Welcome To Derry
@tylermcclain5332bills mom is named Sharon.
The casting of these kids was absolutely amazing! Excellent performances
Lilly is probably the connection to 1930s Pennywise will try to stop the chain there
In my head cannon she left town. It's the only way it makes sense.
My head cannon is that she left town and changed her name to Annie. Then she became obsessed with a romance author from her hometown.
@johnnolan4061this would be hilarious lol
Lilly deserved the best of all endings. She had been severely traumatized by the guilt of her fathers death, a pill popping apathetic mother, bullied at school because of her breakdown due to the lost of her father than dealing with pennywise and still having people disrespect her and call her crazy. I really wish she just changed her name, got out of derry and never looked back.
And all her friends dying
i never want to hear "not so fatherly touches" again in my life
Her mom got a job in New York....lilly ended up forgetting it all.
Yeah because forgetting is something that happens when they leave Derry
I personally dont think Lily has a connection to the Losers club. I think Lily's father will be in season 2 and pennywise will be targeting him in order to stop his inevitable death since Lily was the one who picked up the dagger that ended up confining IT once again. This will probably be a theme in the show. Each time Pennywise fails he tries to kill the ancestors each one being prevented by maturins invisible guiding hand.
@DrakkAttack7 no, Pennywise doesn’t stop death 🤦♀️🙄
I definitely think we heard enough about Lily’s dad to make him a relevant character in Season 2
@krysl4998 That isn’t what they said.
I agree. I think her story is over and that’s totally okay
I think Lilly mom will also be there to because and remember Lilly try to get more info about missing childrens in her days but Lilly try to ask her but every time she ask her she gets mad and takes her back to Jupiter Hill think about
I always believed that Lily became the aunt that Beverly went to live with at the end of It Chapter 1
Oh wait that’s a good theory
Good thought, but did the show ever directly indicate Lily was a single child? No other siblings were mentioned that I recall.
@stephenstine3049she could of had a younger sibling after welcome to derry
U ALWAYS believed? You mean over the last 2 months? 😂😂😂
@stephenstine3049Lily could've been a family friend of Beverly's mother
The Turtle 🐢 guy needs a show.
One problem he aren't like pennywise that he goes to earth.Because the turtle has more important things to do then go to stop pennywise himself. So what he does is create loserclub to kill pennywise.Loserclub have shine not strong as dick but its enough to sense danger.The turtle is also protecting the loserclub.
If you wanna see the turtle more it will be dark tower series
@sowadsowad6306i hope dark towers gets a series one day.
@sowadsowad6306 where was that protective when Eddie got stabbed you think a damn shield would've appeared i feel like Eddie should've survived like they didn't have to redo everything that happened in 1989 flim they could've atleast made seem that was a killer blow but in last second the turtle protect ed bc let be real ed is the strongest among them then it the girl it just he scary 😅 like they miss so many opportunities with both chapters
The ugly truth is Lily probably wound up in Juniper Hill later in life and never left
I think the idea of Lilly being Bev's mother would be lazy writing. It's OK that two of the 80s losers' parents are in the series, but not everyone needs to be connected that way.
Yeah you're right... there are other ways Pennywise can cause trouble without attacking just their ancestors?
She clearly isn’t Beverly’s mom so it’s a non issue
Not lazy, it just makes since given the juniper hills association. It would be a missed opportunity 😕
Yes but marge being connected and not her is weird considering she had that main character enerrgy
@veliahtsehzademehmet704 it's not weird at all. Just cuz you're a main character, doesn't mean you're supposed to be connected. Besides, lilly might still connect from season 2. Maybe one of her parents is gonna be a part of the 1935 cycle. Lilly played a huge role in Pennywise's defeat in S1. So it would make sense for pennywise to target her bloodline in S2.
Bruh. Lily has been through enough!!!
Hear me out, IT goes back and successfully kills Lilly's bloodline, making her never born in the later movies.
Omg yes it is mt theory and it works so thats why she doesnt have a future or she moved out
@veliahtsehzademehmet704 yes pennywise might target her bloodline in season 2. But I don't think he will succeed. He will fail just like he failed to kill Marge. Cuz if he manages to end Lilly's bloodline, he will be able to prevent his fate in the first season. Lilly is the person that finds the daggers. And she is one of the kids that defeat pennywise in welcome to derry finale. If pennywise manages to end her bloodline, he will change his fate and escape Derry in S1, which will ultimately lead to the losers club not being able to kill him either. Which is obviously not happening. He can't prevent his inevitable death. He can only try.
Yaa it makes sense.. to be honest it's a loop that he is trapped in.. if he had succeeded in any of the past events then it chapter 2 and it welcome to darry would have never happened.. its like grandfathers paradox..
He knows he's fate yet he fails to change it because any decision he makes leads to that same very fate..
It's like a man who has seen his future can't change it because him seeing his future thats what leads him to that very future
I don't know if it is making any sense but the theory is amazing 🤣
I would like to believe Lilly is the mother of bill denbrough who left Derry for like a decade or so and came back after her husband convinced her to move there where she forgot about the events of pennywise
I agree with that theory too
There's no way each of them aren't the parents of the losers. If Will is Mike's dad and Marge is Ritchie mom Lily has to be Beverly mother
I think they’re saving Bill’s ancestor for later. They could do two losers a season and do everyone but Ben, since in Andy’s story he’s the one that’s not from Derry.
@kaleahcollins4567 your wrong cuz Beverly’s mom name is elfrida and bill’s mom name is Sharon so YALL need to stop assuming stuff you need to search it up first
@kaleahcollins4567 Also, Teddy's (from Episode 1) brother is said to be Stan's dad
Elfrida hanging there at the end is actually the bent neck lady. Lets go Mike Flanagan!!!
You know ball
Na that's Neil
In "Welcome to Derry" episode one or two, they showed a red-headed girl put an "I Love You" note (or something like that) on Alvin's locker (obviously Alfreda), showing that Lily was not Bev's mother. Not sure why people keep talking about this when there is definitive proof that she isn't.
You know with the tv series (and potential for 2 more seasons) "It" became a full blown franchise. With that comes the fandom and fandoms be crazy when it comes to fandom theories.
I'm sure some people will send death threats to the Muschietti siblings after they announce Lilly is not Bev's mom 😑
@LithK.-Li-3she could be the Aunt that Beverly marsh goes to live with
One commenter just said my brain is too small to understand that she is bevs mom😂😂😂
@suchafknladyyy5780 A true "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand that Lilly is Bev's mom" moment 🤣
I bet they are still smirking 😅
@LithK.-Li-3they really thought they did something 😂😂I laughed in my reading room surrounded by my Stephen King collection the comment section is a wiiiild place man
Actually didn’t understand what Lily’s purpose in this show was. She had the turtle bracelet which I thought with them hinting to her having the shining and doing something with it, but she was just literally around the whole series.
Maybe it's a hint that it was originally Lily who was meant to be killed by Pennywise and Matty was supposed to be part of the crew
@bemiatto67oh
Yeah, I think it plays out as a change of fate. Matty gives Lilly his protection charm (the turtle) and unknowingly makes himself vulnerable. Pennywise then uses Matty as a way to lure Lilly, Teddy and Phil at first because he knows they all feel guilty. I guess he thought he could get into Lilly's head with torments of her father, Matty, Teddy, Phil and Susie and later Ronnie and Marge. Lilly was mentally weak, therefore good to use as "bait" for the other kids.
The actress who played Lily is so beautiful and talented. I hope Hollywood won't ruin her life.
I feel like lily’s dad is going to be a survivor in the past cycle and pennywise killed him in this season, which is why it could take the fathers form. Also think that about Ronnie’s mom
In addition to Ronnie's mom and Lily's dad we also potentially have Matty's mom (I'm ignoring his dad as it's heavily implied he is a terrible person) and even Phill's and Susie's mom.
It would be interesting if the survivors of season 2 would all be doomed to die before the next cycle or have their future offspring killed.
@LithK.-Li-3 Its very possible. I do think that they'll be in the show, but not in a losers club capacity. only because pennywise attacked lily as her dad and Ronnie as her mom. since pennywise can only glimmer people he's killed
@tylermulvihill5337 That would mean he killed and ate Ingrid in 1988 as he can take her from freely in 2016.
No, he glimmer Beth and she wasn’t dead
Ronnie going to become a victim . All of these loser kids members die but their off spring kill pennywise..
I think not showing her face was intentional for some reason 🤔
Personally, considering all she went through, I wish all happiness on Lily.
That girl was so traumatized i dont see her having a happy ending. Nothing good ever happens to anyone who lives in Derry it seems
She recovered and I think moved out of derry
They do all forget though.
Lilly looks a lot like Billy but his mom’s name is Sharon I believe.
She was actually being corrupted by the artifact.
We better see the turtle in season 2, we got a teaser of the macroverse in the finale
Lilly is probably gonna be connected to the next show from the 27 years before timeline.
Video summary: No one knows and hes guessing lol
She probably moved out of Derry. That's the only logical explanation because if she hadn't, then she would've helped the Losers.
Don’t forget you see an Adult Marge in IT 2 in during Stanley’s ceremony when Richie claps his hands
I was wondering about that. Is she using a prosthetic eye?
Omg another post credits scene with Richie and Marge in 1988 would’ve been so good 😩😩
Easiest out for the writers is she left for college and forgot over time. Or married an army guy and left.
Thats what I concluded. I do think though she still has nightmares and other occurences that remind her of the events in Derry.
OMG so this upload is basically you telling us that you don’t know either.
I know right!!! Our guess is just as good as his!!!
Still fun see others ppl perspective
This whole video was basically a nothing burger 😅
...and doing so for fifteen minutes...😂😂
Well thank you for this comment I hate videos where I just hear nothing im out
Lily simply left Derry and forgot what happened. Just like all the losers did after chapter 1 (except for Mike). They would’ve never came back to face Pennywise again had it not been for the blood oath. So the truth is much simpler than any theory about her being a mom to some character from the 1989 cycle. Lily simply left Derry and forgot about Pennywise and all the supernatural stuff, which probably for the best.
I believe the same. But one of her parents might play a part in the 1935 cycle in S2. Pennywise might target her bloodline in the coming season.
After she graduated high school, she moved away, and never returned to Derry, wanted to forget her past, and just moved on
You know what they say about derry. No one who dies here, every really dies.
Rest in Peace Joan Gregson. You will never die in our hearts ❤
Lilly stayed in Derry and then was possessed by it.. as noted in the book..
Maybe the girl who carved Alvin's name died and Lillian took her name since everyone thought she was insane, making her Beverly's mom and making the end scene make sense
I think she had enough of Derry. She left Derry never to look back.
It started with lilly and ended with marge😂😂
Should be evident shes the mother if bill and georgie
She has a Basset Hound. That’s all that matters.
In my mind she grew up, moved away and forgot the whole thing while living a normal life.
Seeing Sophia Lillis return at the end as Beverly was breathtaking. In the days since, there are videos here on RUclips that claim the original concept had ALL of the 1980's-era Loser's Club return. I'd love to know how they intended to pull _that_ off, especially considering they're now in their twenties. Either way, this show really pulled off the whole TV-series-adapted-from-feature-film challenge more successfully than anyone could have realistically expected them to. It: Welcome to Derry perfectly pulled off the formula that's made _It_ so beloved for forty years now and I, for one, am so eager for the next installment.
Lilly is going to turn out to be Wendy Torrance
After all these things, Lily's emotional trauma is almost palpable. Pennywise's illusions keep ripping open the scars of her father's and best friend's deaths, while she's simultaneously bombarded with pressure and gaslighting. The character is so singular that I'm genuinely curious about her trajectory as an adult: will she find redemption, or will the childhood wounds finally break her?
8:07 aww Ingrid painted her as a child when she's Periwinkle, holding her father Bob Gray's forearm!! i knew it was something to do with a clown when i first watched it but after pausing this video i can clearly see, it is! awwww... that's bittersweet...
Lily changed her name to Wendy and married Jack Torrance. 😱
I have theory maybe Lily is Betty Ripsons mother since she has no connection with the Loser Club
R.I.P Mabel, gone too soon.
I felt so bad, poor baby :(
She grew up and moved away from Derry
It could be
I truly don’t understand the mixed or negative feelings toward Lily. Her father died, her mother blames her for his death and she has a *shape shifting, other worldly cosmic being* stalking her with intent to *kill her*. Anybody who pretends like they’d be able to be rationale and level headed as a prepubescent teen, if they were in this situation themselves, is nothing but a damn liar.
If they made a nightmare on elm street remake I’d get her to play Nancy cause she looks like heather
I was thinking the same thing
So in the end..Lilly won😂 it's clear she left Derry after highschool
She became Lilly...Lilly Skywalker.
That psychic hold is really stop. If most of those kids whose seen and survive Pennywise attacks decided to stay living in town when they had a cbace to leave.
Lilly is one of my favorite characters in the series, I'm hoping to see something about her or seeing she is doing better
If marge stayed in derry means she never forgot pennywise but they never showed that in it movie
I dont think Lily is Elfrida because in the earlier episodes, we see a red headed woman sneak a love letter into Al Marsh's locker.
I like to think she moved to another place and lived happy
I think Pennywise actually kept Lilly alive because it was more or less her actions which either directly or indirectly brought Marge, Will, Rich and Ronnie together, who were actually Pennywise's original targets. Also during the fire at the Black Spot, Marge, Rich, Ronnie and Will were present in addition to Dick Halloran, who managed to get inside Pennywise's head and Pennywise himself went there to pay them a visit. It's possible that Pennywise didn't see Lilly as a threat unlike Marge who later became Richie's mother, Will who became Mike's father and possibly Ronnie since it's speculated she was Mike's mother. So Lilly was like an important pawn in Pennywise's twisted game and that's why Pennywise kept her alive. He never expected that Lilly would actually become one of his biggest threats since she found the dagger.
I honestly hate the Lilly being Beverly's Mom theory
It's kinda just my headcanon that she might be Betty Ripsoms Mom
Nah. Lily left Derry and lived a long and happy life.
She got trapped in a bunker with red hair
I always believed if will never stayed in derry he would have never died in the movie for that house fire and I think Leroy started killing the sheep because he was sad his son died.
Didn't people pay attention to the gravestone when she visited her dad. I'm pretty sure it said loving father to Lillain Bainbridge.
Lilly pretty much told us what happened to her when she said, "It'll be some else's fight." She knew that in 27 years, she would be far removed from the traumatic events of her childhood and not want anything to do with Pennywise again. For someone as tortured as her, she would have embraced the forgetting aspect of the cycle. Also, I think she would have chosen to not have children because doing so would mean they would end up being hunted by Pennywise. I think Lilly assumed as much of a normal life as she could in the remainder of her teens. She moved out of Derry in the 1970s and lived the rest of her life as a very private and somewhat reclusive person. If she heard about Pennywise's return in 1988, she remained resolved that it was someone else's fight.
Because Lilly is Welcome to Derry's main protagonist, some fans think her story should go beyond the events of 1962. I disagree, my opinion is not every Welcome to Derry kid needs have children who are important in later timelines or return as an adult. Lily's story ends in the 1962 timeline as far as I'm concerned. With that said it is possible relatives in her family tree may have important rolls in the 1935 and 1908 timelines.
Since they are going backwards, I wonder if they will bring back any of Chapter One's cast to play their ancestors.
I would hope that Lily got out of derry once she was old enough to live on her own
she changed her name and married Ralph from insomnia
I’d love if Lily was the book version of Patrick Hockstedde’s mom…
People are stretching the "Lillian = Elfrida" headcanon too far. It is much more likely that the random redhead shown in one episode, was Elfrida. The girl slipping a love letter into a boy's locker, most likely Alvin Marsh's locker.
The woman that plays Ingred Marsh passed away earlier this year, she died but she’ll never really die she’ll be with us in spirit. 💐🌷 RIP
There is no Ingrid marsh. You mean the woman who plays elderly Mrs. Kirsch
Theory with zero evidence to back it: Lilly is Georgie and Bills mom and they changed her name from the books
Although Lilly’s ended may seem weak I think it’s perfect, all she wanted was to find clarity while everyone was making her slowly believe she was crazy and she wanted to be at peace with her fathers death enough to be able to visit him, so I get the way her chapter ends in the story while everyone else goes on to carry on their chapters to continue the fight when Pennywise returns
Lili is eddy's mother who want to protect him against pennywise
Can’t believe lily told the police on Ronnie’s dad she pissed me off 😅
Fr, she ended up getting sent back to Juniper Hill anyway and nothing bad even happened to her
She lied on him you mean 😫😢😂
i was always thinking Lilly was her mother who hung herself in that scene but we will never know. However Lilly could have changed her name to try and forget her past
I don't why but I feel like Lilly looks so much like young Bill from It Chapter 1.
tales of the tmnt season 2
Teenage mutant ninja turtles
People kept saying I was wrong but I knew lily died there
Lilly did say it is someone else's fight. Maybe she did not want to forget the friends she lost so she stayed in Derry, but changed her name to throw Pennywise off if he comes back for her. Also maybe to protect her daughter too who she knows is fated to cross paths with Pennywise.
It maybe pretty normal like we have seen beaverly dad how scary and abusive he was. Maybe he would be the reason behind her suicide ?
Season 2 will be in 1935 and Dick is about 17 years old.
If Lily's not related to anyone in the Losers Club, why would Pennywise target her?
Bev have red Auburn hair while Lilly have black hair, so they are not related, easy it's not that deep
I wonder if IT will reveal he scared Lilly into never having children due to pennywise making sure the fight wouldn’t ever touch her again.
Pennywise would be the only one who would know about a timeline with one extra loser club member.
It would of been cool yes, a poetic esc ending that lily can never escape the one thing i was thinking is lily isn't a redhead so that was a big giveaway
Am I missing something here but didn't the woman who committed suicide have read her like a daughter?
To sum it up: no clues, a whole lotta nothin
One thing that also majorly debunks the “Lily is Beverly’s mom” is simply the hair color. Alvin has brown hair and Beverly’s mom has red hair (as seen in the ending and since Alvin says Beverly “looks a lot like her”.) And although both have curly hair, its very unlikely for someone with brown hair and someone with black hair to produce a child with bright red hair. Idk, I always thought that part was obvious. :/
Eh she probably left and forgot and that's a tragedy