Those Yellow Halogens are one of the reasons why there are more Haval Jolions on the road , I feel like kia is holding back on small things like the lights and sunroof, it’s a pity cause the Sonet is a very nice car.
I’ve had this car for about 7 months. The 1.5l LX CVT. Here are a few things I don’t like about the car. The windows auto system, no 60/40 seats, the halogen headlamps and mine unlike the other models doesn’t have a rear wiper. It’s a good car though and the fuel consumption is great.
That's one thing about the Sonet and Hyundai Venue that I hate, the lack of a rear wiper. I'd rather pay an extra R5 000 and have one rather than not having one, I miss it every single time I drive either in the rain or after the rain. Luckily on the Venue it's only on the bottom spec car, not sure about the Sonet though
@@taniathovhakale771 yeah! It's super nice, the bottom spec one is the one I have. The 1.2. I absolutely love it! I would really like the 1.0 but it was just a little pricey🤣
True. Led lights must be part of safety. Some of our roads are not well lit and these halogen lights are poor and can beam just about here. LED will be ideal and must be standard feature and part of EuroNCap rating
Very true it's not going to sell and because of that they will have to pull the plug. Honestly how does Kia expect to sell this car at that price with the Chinese giving us something way more value for money at less money?
Ah the life of a auto journalist, to see keyed ignition and remark what a bit of nostalgia it is😁. Still its kind of bad that the top spec doesn't have keyless start, especially for the price and all its rivals do. The reach for the steering wheel is not on alot of its rivals and the bench thing for me is a deal breaker. But the fact it has 6 airbags is quite good for the segment as is the turbo engine. Still if you're not getting the Suzuki or Toyota(most practical in its class) then its the Cherry.
Nice design, but the only reason I wouldn't recommend this car is the lack of 60/40 rear seat split. To me that's a deal breaker and makes the car impractical
@@michaelflinn7784... A few, I suppose. I had a Sandero a few years ago and the reason I loved it so much was that I could randomly fit in big-ish items in it, and passengers. I moved my sister from KZN to the Northern Cape with it... Carried a fridge, a microwave oven and her luggage. Both my mom and sister also fit in it. It wasn't ideal, but very useful that I could fold a seat, and have seating for 1 or 2 passengers at the back.
Nice car, but don’t like how versions in other countries come with push to start, sunroof, wireless charger plus leds as standard. At top price should come with all of that. Might push buyers to other cars
If KIA rectified all the quirks you mention it could well have been best in class. No keyless entry, no stop start, no auto window, no 60/40 split rear seats, only 1 rear usb and rear centre seat belt...
I think it is because the car tries to learn your driving preference while new. That would be the only reason for the unpredictable acceleration response
@@michaelflinn7784 did you read your response before posting it? How do you expect a new product to have a history? Reputation is built, not bought. You lack common sense
@@michaelflinn7784 Haval is one of the world's biggest SUV manufacturers, the fact that they're new to SA is irrelevant. Maybe stop getting your facts from around the braai.
It's a premium car with cheap headlights. I am really disappointed with that. Suzuki Baleno comes with projector headlights in all of their trims, as well as it's direct competitor, Brezza and Urban Cruiser. I don't understand why Kia is still on the cheap reflector headlights while other car manufacturers are moving ahead with LED technology
I think the sonnet is better than the urban cruiser but is it worth it because nothing compares to the toyota resale value or should I wait for hylander
@@DaveDVideoMaker those are great outputs for a small engine. Average for a 3 cylinder turbo but good. You don't seen to criticize or applaud those so you statement is ambiguous and meaningless
@@michaelflinn7784 A lot of crossovers and subcompact cars have 3cyl engines with 110-130+ horsepower out of it. They’re very common here in the UK, including the best selling car in the UK the Vauxhall Corsa. Look at the new Fiesta ST MK8, that has 197 horsepower out of a 3cyl. And plus, I have no opinion on those figures; I gave them because Ciro didn’t mention them in the video.
LOL how is Dave’s statement “meaningless”? Does it have to mean anything? He is providing the specs which Ciro failed to provide…some people don’t care about kW/Nm, others would like to know out of interest
What I find weird is how the Hyundai Venue has some of the features that this doesn't. The Hyundai-Kia relationship is a strange one. They really are just competing for the same market instead of having one suit a higher market than the other
Juliet McGuire did one, you can look her channel up, I'm sure you'll enjoy her style. She's local and quite popular. The bad news is she hated it. From what I can tell, the only good thing about that car is maybe its looks.
11:45 Euh all my French buddies pronounce it as "so-nette" which is the same as doorbells in French 😅 the main thing for me is that it has not been crash tested despite being out for 2 years now.. That's kinda fishy for me
Give me normal aircon then and add drl and led lights. Its a no brainer. I have the 1.5 ex. I wanted a turbo but because of the lights isue I won't trade in for a more expensive model. If Kia does this their sales would increase. Fyi Tiggo pro 4 and suzuki Brezza have drls in the baseline. I suspect the make up of the models are decided by Kia south Africa. Some should be slapped because they are messing things up. Kia could be one of the top 3 brands in Sa. The quality is def there. Even the picanto dominates the small car market but yet again no turbo available.... people will pay for these things. Just make it available. Thats why Toyota and vw keep o. Winning, the are expensive but they give specs.....
We bought the top of the range one for 306 when they had just came out. Put real leather in it and now with all the extras we paid less for ours than you pay for the same car now. I'm sorry but kia are going to loose their customers
When pulling away the accelerator is useless until you go halway. And the brakes are very sensitive. But the steering is great the infotainment is great and we get 6.3l per 100 on ours with my mother driving and she has a lead foot. It's actually more efficient than the Picanto she had before it.
The key has already begun to get stuck while opening it. She had been driving kia and only kia for 11 years but with the price and the absolute lack of equipment compared to where it is built it's terrible
@@jeffreymanuel6454 I understand that but there should be an option to change the throttle response it is fly by wire so it can easily be changed they just need to add the button or menu on the gauge cluster. Because when i say useless i mean at 60kph if you are at 10% throttle it does nothing no matter what speed. If you want to pull away going from nothing to everything is not a feature it's a annoyance.
The drive sounds terrible. If the throttle and brake isn't engineered properly then that in itself is a deal breaker. Also how can you not list power figures? KIAs look ugly though.
Do you ever verify the consumption indicator. The only car that I have had that is ever close is a VW. Wifes Honda says 11.8 km/l in reality its closer to 10.5km /l and my Fortuner over estimates by about 15%. In your reports it would be good to get an actual consumption.
That rear seat arrangement would immediately take it off my shopping list. It's 2022 and no DRLs! If the window switches don't have the second "one touch" detent then Kia is short-changing this market, as they are available elsewhere.
those that are scared of the Chinese because I feel it's the best non-Chinese product in the segment. The only thing it really lacks is LED daytime running lights
Oh, I investigated the competition thoroughly, and the Sonet and Tiggo were my top options. I went for the Sonet, because the superior ride, interior trim, ergonomics and boot space were what mattered to me. People here are complaining about headlights and sunroofs, which makes absolutely no difference to me. My primary gripe, as Ciro has correctly pointed out, is the lack of driver's one touch window control, no auto side mirrors, and the cup holders. These things bother me way more than I thought they would.
I get that, when compared with the Brezza that has more tech than this despite being a less tech laden car. Cant even compare this with a Tiggo which just makes this look ancient
How is it treating you though, in terms of maintenance and fuel efficiency? I'm asking because a lot of French car manufacturers are constantly being criticized for reliability but they're quite affordable compared to their counterparts.
@@siyangqina I love it. Very economical and a lot of boot space. It's not exactly premium but very practical. Good ground clearance and average power. But the auto EDC transmission gets confused when you're driving slow. Also, I'd love to have an armrest. No idea why they didn't include that. Bought it new so it's still under warranty so I haven't had issues. Thinking I'll give the Chinese a try next time but my heart yearns for a Subaru. Only problem is that they're unnecessarily thirsty.
I don't need anything fancy but still looking and just like you, I'm quite intrigued by the Chinese, I'm digging the Cherry Tigo 7 pro, lots of bells and whistles for the prices they go for and the general impression I've gotten from owners of the older models seem to imply that they're fairly reliable. I must sympathize with you on the Subies though, those boxer engines have a reputation for being quite thirsty but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be smiling to the petrol station in a WRX STI or Forrester though.
@@siyangqina yeah, Tiggo and Jolion are in my sights. I think they'll only improve and will fill up the streets in the next few years. Yeah, I hear mixed reviews about the Subaru CVT as well though I'd also be smiling in an Outback, especially since I'm wanting to get into a more 'outdoors' lifestyle.
Those Yellow Halogens are one of the reasons why there are more Haval Jolions on the road , I feel like kia is holding back on small things like the lights and sunroof, it’s a pity cause the Sonet is a very nice car.
yeah, sunroof and led headlamp is available in other countries
Have you seen the fuel efficiency of the Jolian, no thanks!
I was dissapointed about it not having a sunroof
I’ve had this car for about 7 months. The 1.5l LX CVT. Here are a few things I don’t like about the car. The windows auto system, no 60/40 seats, the halogen headlamps and mine unlike the other models doesn’t have a rear wiper. It’s a good car though and the fuel consumption is great.
That's one thing about the Sonet and Hyundai Venue that I hate, the lack of a rear wiper. I'd rather pay an extra R5 000 and have one rather than not having one, I miss it every single time I drive either in the rain or after the rain. Luckily on the Venue it's only on the bottom spec car, not sure about the Sonet though
Which is better Kia sonet or venue ?
@@taniathovhakale771 I'd say Venue. You get a lot more features in the Venue and you get the 1.0 engine which is the one to have at a cheaper price
@@wadesolomon2484 I see the new venue is out also what a beaut
@@taniathovhakale771 yeah! It's super nice, the bottom spec one is the one I have. The 1.2. I absolutely love it! I would really like the 1.0 but it was just a little pricey🤣
I didn’t like the look of it until I saw one in bright blue with a white roof. It looked like a funky training shoe and i really liked it
Hi. Can you do an exterior walk around in your reviews please. You're always in the car
How does the Kia Sonet compare to the Suzuki Fronx. Which would you recommend more?
Did you get your answer, what did you end up going with?
Thank you for the safety feature review!!
No xenons/laser headlights? Pathetic for something in 2022 and at that price point.
True. Led lights must be part of safety. Some of our roads are not well lit and these halogen lights are poor and can beam just about here. LED will be ideal and must be standard feature and part of EuroNCap rating
Very true it's not going to sell and because of that they will have to pull the plug. Honestly how does Kia expect to sell this car at that price with the Chinese giving us something way more value for money at less money?
Exactly my point.... Thanks I went through the comments before going too far with the review
That’s true , this is why VW always dominates the market , they don’t hold back on giving people the option to add such things to their cars
Its a known fact that this nonsense of every thing being a "suv" is a problem as the manufacturers are not giving proper lighting systems at all
Ah the life of a auto journalist, to see keyed ignition and remark what a bit of nostalgia it is😁. Still its kind of bad that the top spec doesn't have keyless start, especially for the price and all its rivals do. The reach for the steering wheel is not on alot of its rivals and the bench thing for me is a deal breaker. But the fact it has 6 airbags is quite good for the segment as is the turbo engine. Still if you're not getting the Suzuki or Toyota(most practical in its class) then its the Cherry.
What do you do with all your spare time that keyless entry gives you?🤣
In SA it's safter to have a normal key anyway
Nice design, but the only reason I wouldn't recommend this car is the lack of 60/40 rear seat split. To me that's a deal breaker and makes the car impractical
I totally agree! The whole reason you buy a hatch or crossover is for their versatility.
I can't remember when last I used the 60/40 split in my last cars.... probably 12 years ago so how many people will this effect?
@@michaelflinn7784... A few, I suppose. I had a Sandero a few years ago and the reason I loved it so much was that I could randomly fit in big-ish items in it, and passengers. I moved my sister from KZN to the Northern Cape with it... Carried a fridge, a microwave oven and her luggage. Both my mom and sister also fit in it. It wasn't ideal, but very useful that I could fold a seat, and have seating for 1 or 2 passengers at the back.
@@Mkhehla there are so many crossovers that have a 60-40 split. This and the Venue are the only ones that don't and they cost the most🤷
@@michaelflinn7784 i use it, even when im not carrying another person. Versatility is key.
Can you do a Kia Rio Hatch review ?
Can you do a review on the Kie Seltos or do you have on?
Great review 👍👍 Specially, I already owned one.
Hi Ciro the VW T - Cross has steering wheel length adjust i really like the Sonet shape similar to the T - Cross which one do you prefer overall?
I would like to hear feedback on this as well
Sonnet or Chery Tiggo Pro4?
Hi Ciro does the kia Sonet have the DSG Automatic gearboxes like the well known VOLKSWAGEN & NOW AUDI?
The new somt looks like the old Sportage
I like that
Nice car, but don’t like how versions in other countries come with push to start, sunroof, wireless charger plus leds as standard. At top price should come with all of that. Might push buyers to other cars
To demonstrate the practicality of the car and boot, can you also bring a big suitcase as well please.
The diesel auto is the one to go for, enjoying my ownership for the last one year.
There is no diesel Sonnet 🖕
How does the Sonet compair with the Hyundai Creta?
In their website they specify that the rear seat is splittable and foldable. not sure if it is just an improvement in the 2024 model...
If KIA rectified all the quirks you mention it could well have been best in class. No keyless entry, no stop start, no auto window, no 60/40 split rear seats, only 1 rear usb and rear centre seat belt...
Ciro. Sonet vs Tiggo 4pro please
When are you getting the Haval h6s?
Does this car have a TPMS?
Is it possible to review the Renault kiger
Well done Kia well done❤
Why didn't you just lift the parcel shelf before dropping the seat?
I think it is because the car tries to learn your driving preference while new. That would be the only reason for the unpredictable acceleration response
Such a pretty car
Thanks, ill keep my 2014 Kia Cerato
The ex is expensive with the lack of standard equipment.
...generally kias drive well.
Haval H6 GT review please !!!!!
I love Kia cars but there's one problem with this car. Haval Jolion. Much cheaper. Much bigger.
And much crapper. With no history or reliability guarantee
Exactly. I would have the jolion hands down
@@michaelflinn7784 did you read your response before posting it? How do you expect a new product to have a history? Reputation is built, not bought. You lack common sense
@@michaelflinn7784 Haval is one of the world's biggest SUV manufacturers, the fact that they're new to SA is irrelevant. Maybe stop getting your facts from around the braai.
Would rather not support China where possible.
Have you seen how bad the fuel efficiency is on the Jolion?
It's a premium car with cheap headlights. I am really disappointed with that. Suzuki Baleno comes with projector headlights in all of their trims, as well as it's direct competitor, Brezza and Urban Cruiser. I don't understand why Kia is still on the cheap reflector headlights while other car manufacturers are moving ahead with LED technology
Who folds thier seats? And who has done it in the past 8 months?
Mountain bikers and golfers, and every damn weekend!
I do quite a bit just doing errands.
I think the sonnet is better than the urban cruiser but is it worth it because nothing compares to the toyota resale value or should I wait for hylander
Especially when the "Toyota" is a Suzuki
SIMPLY BRILLIANT !
In FACT: Simply "declare" the Sonet "car of the decade" !
You will not be too far out 👌👍!
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This little bitty 3cyl turbo engine produces 88kW (118hp) of power and 172Nm (127lbft) of torque.
Meaning?
@@michaelflinn7784 What do you mean, meaning? What do you not understand?
@@DaveDVideoMaker those are great outputs for a small engine. Average for a 3 cylinder turbo but good. You don't seen to criticize or applaud those so you statement is ambiguous and meaningless
@@michaelflinn7784 A lot of crossovers and subcompact cars have 3cyl engines with 110-130+ horsepower out of it. They’re very common here in the UK, including the best selling car in the UK the Vauxhall Corsa. Look at the new Fiesta ST MK8, that has 197 horsepower out of a 3cyl.
And plus, I have no opinion on those figures; I gave them because Ciro didn’t mention them in the video.
LOL how is Dave’s statement “meaningless”? Does it have to mean anything? He is providing the specs which Ciro failed to provide…some people don’t care about kW/Nm, others would like to know out of interest
This or an XUV 3000 w8?
Nice jacket
Impressive vehicle.
Good useable review Ciro
very good points you raise.
Disappointing that it only has 1 rear USB port and I guess halogen headlights.
What I find weird is how the Hyundai Venue has some of the features that this doesn't. The Hyundai-Kia relationship is a strange one. They really are just competing for the same market instead of having one suit a higher market than the other
@@wadesolomon2484 well said
Very odd and confusing relationship they have.
Can you please do Renault KIGER review.
Juliet McGuire did one, you can look her channel up, I'm sure you'll enjoy her style. She's local and quite popular.
The bad news is she hated it.
From what I can tell, the only good thing about that car is maybe its looks.
Plz make a video of the new Hilux 2.8GD-6 Raider
Been stolen already
11:45 Euh all my French buddies pronounce it as "so-nette" which is the same as doorbells in French 😅 the main thing for me is that it has not been crash tested despite being out for 2 years now.. That's kinda fishy for me
Ciro, is that your voice on Tmthe new Toyota Advert?
Sjo, first world problems with these Kia keys ... :P
Give me normal aircon then and add drl and led lights. Its a no brainer. I have the 1.5 ex. I wanted a turbo but because of the lights isue I won't trade in for a more expensive model. If Kia does this their sales would increase. Fyi Tiggo pro 4 and suzuki Brezza have drls in the baseline. I suspect the make up of the models are decided by Kia south Africa. Some should be slapped because they are messing things up. Kia could be one of the top 3 brands in Sa. The quality is def there. Even the picanto dominates the small car market but yet again no turbo available.... people will pay for these things. Just make it available. Thats why Toyota and vw keep o. Winning, the are expensive but they give specs.....
We bought the top of the range one for 306 when they had just came out. Put real leather in it and now with all the extras we paid less for ours than you pay for the same car now. I'm sorry but kia are going to loose their customers
When pulling away the accelerator is useless until you go halway. And the brakes are very sensitive. But the steering is great the infotainment is great and we get 6.3l per 100 on ours with my mother driving and she has a lead foot. It's actually more efficient than the Picanto she had before it.
The key has already begun to get stuck while opening it.
She had been driving kia and only kia for 11 years but with the price and the absolute lack of equipment compared to where it is built it's terrible
@@adriaanserrao2016 the 'useless accelerator' at low revs is a feature, not a bug. Its the reason why the fuel consumption is so good.
@@jeffreymanuel6454 I understand that but there should be an option to change the throttle response it is fly by wire so it can easily be changed they just need to add the button or menu on the gauge cluster. Because when i say useless i mean at 60kph if you are at 10% throttle it does nothing no matter what speed. If you want to pull away going from nothing to everything is not a feature it's a annoyance.
The drive sounds terrible. If the throttle and brake isn't engineered properly then that in itself is a deal breaker. Also how can you not list power figures? KIAs look ugly though.
Do you ever verify the consumption indicator. The only car that I have had that is ever close is a VW. Wifes Honda says 11.8 km/l in reality its closer to 10.5km /l and my Fortuner over estimates by about 15%. In your reports it would be good to get an actual consumption.
That rear seat arrangement would immediately take it off my shopping list. It's 2022 and no DRLs! If the window switches don't have the second "one touch" detent then Kia is short-changing this market, as they are available elsewhere.
Sales on this car is going to be dependant on buyers who don't investigate the competition.
those that are scared of the Chinese because I feel it's the best non-Chinese product in the segment. The only thing it really lacks is LED daytime running lights
Oh, I investigated the competition thoroughly, and the Sonet and Tiggo were my top options. I went for the Sonet, because the superior ride, interior trim, ergonomics and boot space were what mattered to me. People here are complaining about headlights and sunroofs, which makes absolutely no difference to me. My primary gripe, as Ciro has correctly pointed out, is the lack of driver's one touch window control, no auto side mirrors, and the cup holders. These things bother me way more than I thought they would.
It's a pretty old-fashioned car compared to its competitors
Old fashioned compared to what? Please explain
I get that, when compared with the Brezza that has more tech than this despite being a less tech laden car. Cant even compare this with a Tiggo which just makes this look ancient
2022 car with halogen lights. Wouldn't bother looking at it. 🚮🚮🚮🚮
At that price it doesn't have 60/40 split rear seat? Seriously?
3 Cylinder though...how long will those skinny little matchstick sized pistons last...?
Get with the modern program. Go back to the 1980's
@@michaelflinn7784 morden program of foolishness
Yep, these cars aren't to be kept over 5 years unless you want to it spend time in the repair shop than the road
"SAAB SONET"
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I feel like such an old fart with my 2021 Duster Techroad
How is it treating you though, in terms of maintenance and fuel efficiency? I'm asking because a lot of French car manufacturers are constantly being criticized for reliability but they're quite affordable compared to their counterparts.
@@siyangqina I love it. Very economical and a lot of boot space. It's not exactly premium but very practical. Good ground clearance and average power. But the auto EDC transmission gets confused when you're driving slow. Also, I'd love to have an armrest. No idea why they didn't include that.
Bought it new so it's still under warranty so I haven't had issues.
Thinking I'll give the Chinese a try next time but my heart yearns for a Subaru. Only problem is that they're unnecessarily thirsty.
I don't need anything fancy but still looking and just like you, I'm quite intrigued by the Chinese, I'm digging the Cherry Tigo 7 pro, lots of bells and whistles for the prices they go for and the general impression I've gotten from owners of the older models seem to imply that they're fairly reliable. I must sympathize with you on the Subies though, those boxer engines have a reputation for being quite thirsty but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be smiling to the petrol station in a WRX STI or Forrester though.
@@siyangqina yeah, Tiggo and Jolion are in my sights. I think they'll only improve and will fill up the streets in the next few years.
Yeah, I hear mixed reviews about the Subaru CVT as well though I'd also be smiling in an Outback, especially since I'm wanting to get into a more 'outdoors' lifestyle.
Turbocharged cars killed the joy of driving
Agree!
I'm first baby😎
Lol
Opel crossland x for me will be worth money than this thing
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no, I am first
No I was
I'm watching it for the second time
I was first and there is no debating that🙀
Not a good quality vehicle sorry
Such a pretty car