I am so glad this came back. I was in Nick's live chat when you asked Vega if he was down to do half baked again. I know this probably isn't the most profitable venture for any of you, but it is the single best podcast I've ever listened to. Vega you are a gem in this one too. I know this sounds a little sappy but for real guys keep up the good work and I'll def check out BAMFS and Burbon Vega! You should make more content. Nick stop doing streams and make some hard hitting videos again. Tom, continue being gay. I am sure this is gonna get washed up in the bottom of comments, but for real guys thank you from the bottom of those comments for coming back.
A few things: Ya'll left out the Interview that Quinn DelHoyo had with Decrypt following Doc's statement, where he clarifies that the decision for Guy to leave Midnight Society was actually a mutual one, and that they had calls where all the cofounders were on throughout that weekend, and furthermore, how they wished him success / well in future endeavors. Also, an important note is that Cody Conners, who is credited with the leak, not only is good, personal friends with Rod Breslau, aka Slasher (The guy literally credited with both articles on Rolling Stone and Bloomberg--who ALSO knew of the alleged reason, yet sat on it for many years to exploit the outrage.) but also had hinted at potentially leaking "the reason" several times prior, in attempts to sell tickets to shows his band was hosting--and he did this for YEARS. This particular time, he included the word "sexting" and literally everyone lost their mind. One final point: Ya'll mention several times in this podcast that "you'd think if you were accused of X then you'd simply come out and say Y to avoid speculation", only the reason Guy couldn't say anything was due to the NDA that he was legally obligated to, and until he was able to get affirmation legally from his counsel that by virtue of Cody (and others resulting) "leaking" the reason, the NDA had become defunct, he couldn't speak on the matter or risk losing his settlement money. I don't share ANY of this as a Fan or some cringelord neckbeard Super Dr. Disrespect fan, but as someone who has followed this case, prides himself on the impartial transparency of due process, and seen an insane amount of injustice, regarding his cancellation and destruction of his history of accomplishments with almost little to no foundation or evidence--all hinged on the subjective interpretation of the word "inappropriate". Not defending anyone here, but online society has devolved in my opinion to such a state that most folks lost all concept of rationality, instead preferring outrage, and I refuse to either contribute, or follow that absurd insanity. We have yet to hear from ANY alleged victim, and almost everyone, including sponsors have reacted entirely off of people not even directly involved in the incident, just their reactions. Both articles's foundation is "I heard from someone that saw" and somehow justify that as enough to destroy a Man's livelihood. It's actually insane--and before anyone claims "well he admitted it" he said "sometimes leaned into inappropriate" which is still entirely subjective. Take Dr. Lupo for example, he interpreted "inappropriate" as "eliciting sex from a teenager" despite that not being ANYWHERE in there. That's absurd! Or, how about "tried to meetup" when what he did was ask this person, who is a Creator in case you didn't know, if they were going to TwitchCon, because he is, and has a meet and greet. The context was intentionally twisted to exploit the outrage, which all benefit clicks for both articles that Slasher wrote, raising his monetary gain. A little suspicious.
Lord Vega is awesome. He brings such a unique perspective that you never see in this community or very much at all online. Hope to see more of the podcast!!
Doc’s controversy here reminds me of the MiniLadd situation. Dude got outed, admitted it, then tried to backtrack a couple months later when he thought everyone forgot about it.
mini lad had practically no one supporting him when he came back though, doc somehow brain rotted his audience into thinking he’s in the right in this situation unfortunately
@@Tyler-w5wThat’s “edgy” teenage boys for you. They went to bat for pewdiepie when he was literally pushing nazi ideology. I’d rather side with pronouns then that insane “we protect predators because they might vote for trump” community
I missed Vega holy shit this fucker could become a commentary channel tomorrow and he'd have a small yet dedicated fan-base of people, probably not enough to pay the bills so I understand why he doesn't and he's got things going on in his life like work probably. It'd just be nice to hear his opinions on things every so often as he usually has a really interesting take on things. Feels like the most grown up person in this community.
25:48 If you watch Doc's whole statement in his comeback stream, he says outright that no "Sexually graphic images or messages were sent." He's either lying or he's telling the truth at this point, I don't think there's a whole lot of in between. And if you ask me, knowing that there are people out there, including Twitch, who know the whole truth I somehow doubt that he would lie about this whole thing.
Yeah why would he lie about committing pedophilic activities? People are always 100% honest about that kind of thing. Doc fans are really smart and definitely over the age of 13
The problem is that wasn't what he originally said. The issue is if it was just jokes that weren't sexual but involved cussing then that should have been said. There was no reason to wait a month to clarify this. The issue isnt twitch because Cody the ex twitch employee is the one who is making these claims. The only thing he can do in my eyes is actually sue this guy for slander. His original statement hurts him but that would show that he is willing to take the steps a innocent man would. I'm sorry but I do not believe the edits he made where part of his plan. I'm too old to fall for that. The point about people making bad faith assumptions about what he meant is dumb for several reasons 1 we already know this about the internet so there was no need to do that 2. It's not even the same because it's not a situation where people where taking claims from another person and treating them as fact. It was doc's own words that caused this. And 4 the fact that his game studio dropped him and his close friends still don't fuck with him indicates to me that they where told something else that doc isn't telling us. Nick isn't the type to fold to any pressure. If the guy who still won't apologize for his statements about transgender. The guy who lost numerous deals because of that still will not fuck with doc. That tells me there is more then doc is telling us.
Not disagreeing with you but there is something to consider. Knowingly sending explicit nsfw images to a minor is directly illegal even if it’s not of either party in the photos or videos sent. That also is probably the case with the “meet up” allegations. Cause if you send messages in a sexual nature with an outspoken plan to meet up you are cooked cause that shows intent. If you are sending messages of a sexual nature and nothing else without planning to meet up or images it’s a lot easier to defend your position in court. However while making a plan or sending messages is illegal and the legal definition of “sexting”. It’s still defensible with them but a lot more so without them. Especially If it’s just one case with one minor. It’s why most cases with convictions of just messages are because of a few reasons. it was a sting op by law enforcement or they used the fact that there were multiple victims that came forward with the transcript to gain a warrant to seize the accused persons computers and access to the specific sites they were using to message the victims. I’ve seen one too many cases where the only evidence is just messages with just one minor or victim where the accused gets off scot free cause it’s too easy of a defensible position in court. Especially if it’s brought by someone who isn’t law enforcement. Cause it’s too easy to claim fake, out of context, no intent was stated, or that they were tampered with. Harder even more so if the messages are sent on a site that requires you to verify or click agree that you are 18. It’s why most cases where the evidence is brought up by the predator hunting vigilante channels have such a low conviction rate. It can still sometimes lead to a conviction but it’s so rare Most DAs won’t touch any case where the only evidence provided are text messages with no explicit images are knowingly sent specifically to a minor. It’s also why preds use Discord servers and group chats to send them now cause it’s way too easy to defend with “I didn’t know they were minor and they clicked the 18+ role so how would I have known?” So either way he may be telling the truth but he also could be lying in either case depending on how you look at it. Just something to consider. Also wanted the info out there since as someone with multiple degrees in Criminal Law Studies. Because people are assuming way too much about how the court systems and laws work in this situation on either side. I really hate blatant misinformation being spread lol especially on a device that could access that info if people would just take like just a few minutes to read up on what they are talking about through verified trusted sources haha
Yall so caught up in the court of law you missed the court of moral opinions. Let's rehash with what the Doc himself thinks: "from a moral standpoint I absolutely take responsibility. I should have never entertained these conversations to begin with. That's on me. That's on me as an adult, a husband and a father. It should have never happened. I get it. I'm not perfect and I'll fucking own my shit. This was stupid." He agrees, it was weird talking to someone's kid in private. I agree it was weird he was talking to some kid in private in any capacity beyond handing out giveaways etc. He offered her services through his Midnight Club or what have you, something that may have included real world transactions to increase streaming revenue etc, seminars and what have you about increasing your Twitch presence. It was weird, nothing in this indicates it was weird to you? Anyone defending his weird actions are even weirder.
Key point from "ThE ThrUtH" is that he does not say "explicite messages OR pictures" are not shared; he says "explicite messages AND pictures" etc. Small difference but it's the turn point detail.
Man I cant tell ya how much I appreciated Nick sharing that "second grade" clip cause he saved my curiosity causing me to waste 20 minutes of an already seriously busy day. That was all I needed to hear to write the guy off (not that I paid him much mind anyway).
Richard Lewis has some insight as to why at the beginning there was so many theories why he got banned. Twitch basically wanted to figure out who was leaking information to media by giving different information to different people.
Glad the whole gang is back together!! 🥳🥳🥳🎉 It’s so annoying how vague dr.disrespect is being makes me wish he was more like red kiwiz and had the balls to confess to the mother while on drama alert.
One of my main issues, is this is a serious situation and IDK if it's a coping mechanism or a way to keep his pride, but he shouldn't be in character, he needs to be out of character and give us straight forward answers, but he puts on this performance and talks like dr disrespect and not the actual human behind the beard, mustache and glasses.
Maybe I missed it, but has anyone confirmed whether Midnight Society saw the messages? I think outside of his confession their response is the most important, so if they saw the messages in their decision that would make him look even worse because he can't claim 'out of context' then.
At the very least he was flirting with a minor, and that's still really bad, everyone is too focused on he wasn't charged with anything so he must be innocent...can't take docs word for it , he lies alot...willy mac put out a great video explaining everything
It was never stated that this person is a female, or that there was anything sexual said. It's obvious that he was talking shit like normally does, and someone used it against him to try and get him banned. He explains all this, but people just don't want to hear it. They want him gone because they are jealous of him. He's just waiting for whoever is gonna not give him the benefit of the doubt, then will release the actual messages.
You’ll notice he said specifically that they never met in PERSON!!!! That to me reads as they met over video chat the way he stumbles his words and the anxiety just pulsating from him
People attacking Doc are saying “why would Cody need to show it just because he used it to make people buy tickets to his concert?” And it is SO. DAMN. TONEDEAF. LMFAO. Doc won the court case, everyone who investigated the messages, twitch included, said that there was no sexual content in the messages. If that was a lie, twitch would’ve sued him again already and they would easily win, but that didn’t happen. Right now, it’s up to Cody to prove what he was saying, which would be pretty hard if multiple investigators already said that it didn’t happen.
@@arpadszabo661No reasonable person thought that Cody shouldn’t have provided proof, you’re just trying to convey a minority of people’s opinions as if that’s the opinion of the majority of critics. I can’t stand doc, I think he’s an awful streamer with the worst personality, and even then I didn’t believe these accusers at all, until he said he did it. You have to be so delusional to not believe he did it, when he said he did it.
@@arpadszabo661 Imagine mocking someone's comment and then defending someone who thought admitting to being a pedo was a 5D chess move. Don't worry, buddy. I'm sure your mom loves you.
Ok so my theory. I've only seen this part of the clip on destiny coverage of his comeback. He's talking about the "user" and their twitch partner? It's 14 mins into destiny's video. It's a lil hard to keep up cuz destiny keeps pausing to talk but he says it twice and because of destiny's pausing and rewinding it's said 4 times. He says the user and their twitch partner the first time but second time he says "and I repeat the user and HIS twitch partner" he slips. It's the first and I'm pretty sure only time he refers to the user with a pronoun. So my theory. A young (because of the age of consent talk is sketchy) prob 14-17, aspiring streamer. MALE!! Whispers doc. Maybe to try and establish a connection with a larger streamer. They start talking. Maybe start to get chummy. You know 2 dudes shooting the shit. We all know guys get incredibly gay when they start joking with each other and maybe it got a lil naughty a few times. Am I saying doc is gay. Who knows maybe. But why is he hiding the age and gender of this user so hard. Because they were real young, he is over 30. No matter if they were 16 or 18. Wtf you know. And he never mentions a gender because it was a boy. He portrays himself as this macho man, tall handsome athletic (all his words), he's married and has kids. The last thing he needs is for people thinking he's not only a pedophile but a gay pedophile too. Idk this is just me though.
Oh surely this guy hasn’t been involved in any controversy recently, or has claimed to trick everyone into thinking he’s a pedophile and destroying his career
Mad props to the artist for adding the obsessive details like the natural eye movement and the ice moving in the glass
Yes, I love the animation. It's gorgeous.
My ADHD was more focused on the animation than them talking
Yeah, this artist is fucking goated
the moving reflection in the sunglasses is just 😋
I am so glad this came back. I was in Nick's live chat when you asked Vega if he was down to do half baked again. I know this probably isn't the most profitable venture for any of you, but it is the single best podcast I've ever listened to. Vega you are a gem in this one too. I know this sounds a little sappy but for real guys keep up the good work and I'll def check out BAMFS and Burbon Vega! You should make more content. Nick stop doing streams and make some hard hitting videos again. Tom, continue being gay. I am sure this is gonna get washed up in the bottom of comments, but for real guys thank you from the bottom of those comments for coming back.
Mishy is the most talented artist i know. She nailed this. SHE ATE AND LEFT NO CRUMBS
The reflection in the glasses is crazy good.
Half Baked Podcast, the gift that keeps on giving.
The closest we'll get to a spiritual successor of peak Baited.
Nostalgia (for simpler times).
No children were touched in the filming of this episode
A few things:
Ya'll left out the Interview that Quinn DelHoyo had with Decrypt following Doc's statement, where he clarifies that the decision for Guy to leave Midnight Society was actually a mutual one, and that they had calls where all the cofounders were on throughout that weekend, and furthermore, how they wished him success / well in future endeavors.
Also, an important note is that Cody Conners, who is credited with the leak, not only is good, personal friends with Rod Breslau, aka Slasher (The guy literally credited with both articles on Rolling Stone and Bloomberg--who ALSO knew of the alleged reason, yet sat on it for many years to exploit the outrage.) but also had hinted at potentially leaking "the reason" several times prior, in attempts to sell tickets to shows his band was hosting--and he did this for YEARS. This particular time, he included the word "sexting" and literally everyone lost their mind.
One final point: Ya'll mention several times in this podcast that "you'd think if you were accused of X then you'd simply come out and say Y to avoid speculation", only the reason Guy couldn't say anything was due to the NDA that he was legally obligated to, and until he was able to get affirmation legally from his counsel that by virtue of Cody (and others resulting) "leaking" the reason, the NDA had become defunct, he couldn't speak on the matter or risk losing his settlement money.
I don't share ANY of this as a Fan or some cringelord neckbeard Super Dr. Disrespect fan, but as someone who has followed this case, prides himself on the impartial transparency of due process, and seen an insane amount of injustice, regarding his cancellation and destruction of his history of accomplishments with almost little to no foundation or evidence--all hinged on the subjective interpretation of the word "inappropriate". Not defending anyone here, but online society has devolved in my opinion to such a state that most folks lost all concept of rationality, instead preferring outrage, and I refuse to either contribute, or follow that absurd insanity. We have yet to hear from ANY alleged victim, and almost everyone, including sponsors have reacted entirely off of people not even directly involved in the incident, just their reactions. Both articles's foundation is "I heard from someone that saw" and somehow justify that as enough to destroy a Man's livelihood. It's actually insane--and before anyone claims "well he admitted it" he said "sometimes leaned into inappropriate" which is still entirely subjective. Take Dr. Lupo for example, he interpreted "inappropriate" as "eliciting sex from a teenager" despite that not being ANYWHERE in there. That's absurd! Or, how about "tried to meetup" when what he did was ask this person, who is a Creator in case you didn't know, if they were going to TwitchCon, because he is, and has a meet and greet. The context was intentionally twisted to exploit the outrage, which all benefit clicks for both articles that Slasher wrote, raising his monetary gain. A little suspicious.
Lord Vega is awesome. He brings such a unique perspective that you never see in this community or very much at all online. Hope to see more of the podcast!!
Doc’s controversy here reminds me of the MiniLadd situation. Dude got outed, admitted it, then tried to backtrack a couple months later when he thought everyone forgot about it.
mini lad had practically no one supporting him when he came back though, doc somehow brain rotted his audience into thinking he’s in the right in this situation unfortunately
Proof that an audience of 13-16 yo girls has more common snee than an audience of 16-24 yo boys.
Mini Ladd needs to stay gone 😂
@@Tyler-w5wThat’s “edgy” teenage boys for you. They went to bat for pewdiepie when he was literally pushing nazi ideology. I’d rather side with pronouns then that insane “we protect predators because they might vote for trump” community
recorded before the bowblax nonsense 😂
BUCKLE UP CHAMPS!!!!
No.
I missed Vega holy shit this fucker could become a commentary channel tomorrow and he'd have a small yet dedicated fan-base of people, probably not enough to pay the bills so I understand why he doesn't and he's got things going on in his life like work probably. It'd just be nice to hear his opinions on things every so often as he usually has a really interesting take on things. Feels like the most grown up person in this community.
21:04 ngl that caught me off guard 😭😭😭
God, have I missed Tom telling Vega bedtime stories… also, this is the most sober I remember hearing Vega on this podcast
For a second there I thought you got the Dr on lol, I'm kinda dumb
holy fucking shit half baked isnt dead
the drama's too alive 💀
W Podcast! Great to see Vega on our screens again!
You know what’s crazy? Anyone that appeared on TCAP also said they had no real intentions.
I’ve been looking for this podcast for 2 years, not able to find it and now I’m randomly recommended it
love how nick and tom are commentary oracles and vega is just a normal ass dude
We're so fucking back, I missed Vega
25:48 If you watch Doc's whole statement in his comeback stream, he says outright that no "Sexually graphic images or messages were sent." He's either lying or he's telling the truth at this point, I don't think there's a whole lot of in between. And if you ask me, knowing that there are people out there, including Twitch, who know the whole truth I somehow doubt that he would lie about this whole thing.
At this point there is no reason for him to lie about it, especially on stream. It would be so easy to use it against him in court if it was a lie.
Yeah why would he lie about committing pedophilic activities? People are always 100% honest about that kind of thing. Doc fans are really smart and definitely over the age of 13
The problem is that wasn't what he originally said. The issue is if it was just jokes that weren't sexual but involved cussing then that should have been said. There was no reason to wait a month to clarify this.
The issue isnt twitch because Cody the ex twitch employee is the one who is making these claims. The only thing he can do in my eyes is actually sue this guy for slander. His original statement hurts him but that would show that he is willing to take the steps a innocent man would.
I'm sorry but I do not believe the edits he made where part of his plan. I'm too old to fall for that. The point about people making bad faith assumptions about what he meant is dumb for several reasons
1 we already know this about the internet so there was no need to do that
2. It's not even the same because it's not a situation where people where taking claims from another person and treating them as fact. It was doc's own words that caused this.
And 4 the fact that his game studio dropped him and his close friends still don't fuck with him indicates to me that they where told something else that doc isn't telling us. Nick isn't the type to fold to any pressure. If the guy who still won't apologize for his statements about transgender. The guy who lost numerous deals because of that still will not fuck with doc. That tells me there is more then doc is telling us.
Not disagreeing with you but there is something to consider. Knowingly sending explicit nsfw images to a minor is directly illegal even if it’s not of either party in the photos or videos sent. That also is probably the case with the “meet up” allegations. Cause if you send messages in a sexual nature with an outspoken plan to meet up you are cooked cause that shows intent. If you are sending messages of a sexual nature and nothing else without planning to meet up or images it’s a lot easier to defend your position in court. However while making a plan or sending messages is illegal and the legal definition of “sexting”. It’s still defensible with them but a lot more so without them. Especially If it’s just one case with one minor. It’s why most cases with convictions of just messages are because of a few reasons. it was a sting op by law enforcement or they used the fact that there were multiple victims that came forward with the transcript to gain a warrant to seize the accused persons computers and access to the specific sites they were using to message the victims.
I’ve seen one too many cases where the only evidence is just messages with just one minor or victim where the accused gets off scot free cause it’s too easy of a defensible position in court. Especially if it’s brought by someone who isn’t law enforcement. Cause it’s too easy to claim fake, out of context, no intent was stated, or that they were tampered with. Harder even more so if the messages are sent on a site that requires you to verify or click agree that you are 18. It’s why most cases where the evidence is brought up by the predator hunting vigilante channels have such a low conviction rate. It can still sometimes lead to a conviction but it’s so rare Most DAs won’t touch any case where the only evidence provided are text messages with no explicit images are knowingly sent specifically to a minor. It’s also why preds use Discord servers and group chats to send them now cause it’s way too easy to defend with “I didn’t know they were minor and they clicked the 18+ role so how would I have known?”
So either way he may be telling the truth but he also could be lying in either case depending on how you look at it. Just something to consider. Also wanted the info out there since as someone with multiple degrees in Criminal Law Studies. Because people are assuming way too much about how the court systems and laws work in this situation on either side. I really hate blatant misinformation being spread lol especially on a device that could access that info if people would just take like just a few minutes to read up on what they are talking about through verified trusted sources haha
Yall so caught up in the court of law you missed the court of moral opinions.
Let's rehash with what the Doc himself thinks:
"from a moral standpoint I absolutely take responsibility. I should have never entertained these conversations to begin with. That's on me. That's on me as an adult, a husband and a father. It should have never happened. I get it. I'm not perfect and I'll fucking own my shit. This was stupid."
He agrees, it was weird talking to someone's kid in private. I agree it was weird he was talking to some kid in private in any capacity beyond handing out giveaways etc.
He offered her services through his Midnight Club or what have you, something that may have included real world transactions to increase streaming revenue etc, seminars and what have you about increasing your Twitch presence.
It was weird, nothing in this indicates it was weird to you? Anyone defending his weird actions are even weirder.
Nice animation, Great conversation.
Key point from "ThE ThrUtH" is that he does not say "explicite messages OR pictures" are not shared; he says "explicite messages AND pictures" etc. Small difference but it's the turn point detail.
I missed this podcast keep posting
Man I cant tell ya how much I appreciated Nick sharing that "second grade" clip cause he saved my curiosity causing me to waste 20 minutes of an already seriously busy day. That was all I needed to hear to write the guy off (not that I paid him much mind anyway).
Dude, I didn’t know Nick and Tom had a pod! 😮😮😮
Richard Lewis has some insight as to why at the beginning there was so many theories why he got banned. Twitch basically wanted to figure out who was leaking information to media by giving different information to different people.
thanks for another episode
They really got Tom swinging his legs 😭😂
the artist is the fucking goat
So pumped you guys are uploading more often! Great episode!
31:47 😂😂 Tom going 'Hey Champ' got me for some reason
We're so fucking back
That animation is way too good
Tom definitely hold his glass of scotch with 2 hands.
Cam up boys. Come on.
Heck yeah we are so back
Nice detail giving Nick a Tesla belt buckle
ITS HAPPENING THEYRE BACK I CANT BELIEVE IT PLS DONT BE CAP BY THE END
2 videos in one year!? We are spoiled.
Glad the whole gang is back together!! 🥳🥳🥳🎉 It’s so annoying how vague dr.disrespect is being makes me wish he was more like red kiwiz and had the balls to confess to the mother while on drama alert.
One of my main issues, is this is a serious situation and IDK if it's a coping mechanism or a way to keep his pride, but he shouldn't be in character, he needs to be out of character and give us straight forward answers, but he puts on this performance and talks like dr disrespect and not the actual human behind the beard, mustache and glasses.
god that art’s so good
insane art 🔥
Maybe I missed it, but has anyone confirmed whether Midnight Society saw the messages?
I think outside of his confession their response is the most important, so if they saw the messages in their decision that would make him look even worse because he can't claim 'out of context' then.
I wish this one had a mishy in the background
Yo all the talk of UFC on Nick's stream got me a UFC ad
21:15 Tom calling me out wtf .....
At the very least he was flirting with a minor, and that's still really bad, everyone is too focused on he wasn't charged with anything so he must be innocent...can't take docs word for it , he lies alot...willy mac put out a great video explaining everything
You forgot that Cody initially said he would tell everyone if they bought out his concert.
This is lit 🔥
Keep up the gooning grind
Why did i think Vega was Tommy C? Their voice sound so alike 😂
PURE FIRE 🔥
Please never let this die again!
30:01 thrawn was a grand admiral Vega.
Be careful guys, I heard Dr. Disrespect likes hanging out with Half-Baked people.
Half Peaked is back
Half Baked 35: Bowblax
love these boys
It was never stated that this person is a female, or that there was anything sexual said. It's obvious that he was talking shit like normally does, and someone used it against him to try and get him banned. He explains all this, but people just don't want to hear it. They want him gone because they are jealous of him. He's just waiting for whoever is gonna not give him the benefit of the doubt, then will release the actual messages.
Unexpected
Here after nicks stream on Josh
3:34 Why do i feel this youtuber is acheeto lol
Wait this is still a podcast??
We’re so back.
We are so back!
Insane
IM GOOOOOOONING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is doc character doing trump hands??? Lol
White men. They are the same.
Oh no Bowbie is next, isn't he lol
36:25 Vega broke the number 1 rule
His pass is too powerful
You’ll notice he said specifically that they never met in PERSON!!!! That to me reads as they met over video chat the way he stumbles his words and the anxiety just pulsating from him
Artist always kills it but why they draw Tom so zesty fr 😂
Tom and Nick are an amazing duo! Can’t wait for them to turn face and step away from the judgement day!
Here!
Nice episode b0ys. Cheers.
champions club!
you're an industry plant
Nick is still rent free about ZeRo lmao
Vega 🤍
bowblax episode next?
Vega 😍🥺 marry me I love you
AYOOOOOOOO
People defending Doc are saying "why would he need to show it if he did nothing wrong?" And it is SO. DAMN. TONEDEAF. LMFAO
People attacking Doc are saying “why would Cody need to show it just because he used it to make people buy tickets to his concert?” And it is SO. DAMN. TONEDEAF. LMFAO.
Doc won the court case, everyone who investigated the messages, twitch included, said that there was no sexual content in the messages. If that was a lie, twitch would’ve sued him again already and they would easily win, but that didn’t happen. Right now, it’s up to Cody to prove what he was saying, which would be pretty hard if multiple investigators already said that it didn’t happen.
Doc fans are depleting the world's supply of copium one dumb comment at a time. Doc confessed already, the burden is on him to prove that wasn't real.
@@arpadszabo661
What court case? You got a name for it I can search?
@@arpadszabo661No reasonable person thought that Cody shouldn’t have provided proof, you’re just trying to convey a minority of people’s opinions as if that’s the opinion of the majority of critics.
I can’t stand doc, I think he’s an awful streamer with the worst personality, and even then I didn’t believe these accusers at all, until he said he did it. You have to be so delusional to not believe he did it, when he said he did it.
@@arpadszabo661 Imagine mocking someone's comment and then defending someone who thought admitting to being a pedo was a 5D chess move.
Don't worry, buddy. I'm sure your mom loves you.
Cupcakes are gonna be an urban legend, anytime you eat a cupcake when youre over 18 youre gonna get outed as a pedo
Ok so my theory. I've only seen this part of the clip on destiny coverage of his comeback. He's talking about the "user" and their twitch partner? It's 14 mins into destiny's video. It's a lil hard to keep up cuz destiny keeps pausing to talk but he says it twice and because of destiny's pausing and rewinding it's said 4 times. He says the user and their twitch partner the first time but second time he says "and I repeat the user and HIS twitch partner" he slips. It's the first and I'm pretty sure only time he refers to the user with a pronoun. So my theory. A young (because of the age of consent talk is sketchy) prob 14-17, aspiring streamer. MALE!! Whispers doc. Maybe to try and establish a connection with a larger streamer. They start talking. Maybe start to get chummy. You know 2 dudes shooting the shit. We all know guys get incredibly gay when they start joking with each other and maybe it got a lil naughty a few times. Am I saying doc is gay. Who knows maybe. But why is he hiding the age and gender of this user so hard. Because they were real young, he is over 30. No matter if they were 16 or 18. Wtf you know. And he never mentions a gender because it was a boy. He portrays himself as this macho man, tall handsome athletic (all his words), he's married and has kids. The last thing he needs is for people thinking he's not only a pedophile but a gay pedophile too.
Idk this is just me though.
So you think he might be bi?
Would never have guessed.
(Also, he sexted a trans sexworker.)
dam
Is this hotdiggydemon?
you couldn't even put turkey tom's real twitter in the description. yikes
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24 year olds now a days get groomed. And I’m only 27
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You cant say that on RUclips Vega
Oh surely this guy hasn’t been involved in any controversy recently, or has claimed to trick everyone into thinking he’s a pedophile and destroying his career
did nick drop the n word lmao 21:04
Boogie2988 fans? Where?
The 2X will rise from the ashes like a phoenix and be born again to catch that dub. Let's go champs 🔥
Sexting a mix of texting and sex
sooooooooo what is texting ? Text is what we type, sending images is not text
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Basically both statements were true. But im guessing the MOST true was his first statement. Hard to walk that back in every way
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