The “I’m Rocket the raccoon” was the “Avengers Assemble” moment for me in this movie. This was the most Iv ever cried watching an MCU film and it all comes down to Rocket fully accepting who he is and moving forward from his trauma
The rocket raccoon scene got me more hyped than cap catching thors hammer in EG. It was AMAZING, Bradley coopers line delivery was perfect. So perfectly set up through out the GOTG films.
I didn’t think the High Evolutionary shouted too much, it was always at the appropriate moments. Also, how bad-ass is it that Rocket shredded his face to that extent. That reveal was shocking.
I finally got to see this last night, and nothing was spoiled for me. I cry at movies but this BROKE me. All the Rocket flashbacks with Lylla, Teefs and Floor was so completely heartbreaking. This movie made me feel so many emotions and I can't wait to go back and feel them all again.
When Nebula told Drax he was Drax the Destroyer, but he was also Drax the Dad. That hit me, because if you go back to the first movie at the end, when he sits next to Rocket, having just lost Groot and is crying, Drax comforts him by petting him. Yeah, he's treating him like an animal, but he's showing him compassion and understanding, even if Drax doesn't understand what he's doing or why he's doing it, but it's a call back to his character in the comics who, when reborn as the Destroyer, he loses his memories, but there's something paternal in him that shines through. Yeah, pain in the ass, but he's always there to protect the others, even at the risk of his own life.
As I have collected my thoughts with this movie I've come to realize that cohesively the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy might be the most well thought out set of films in the MCU. From beginning to end it felt like we knew their journey, their backgrounds and how each conflict shaped their way of acting. I don't imagine we will see any of these characters pop up again unless it's for the next Avengers films (taking out the fact that some actors aren't returning) but looking back on it I thought they ended it well regardless of the few issues I had with it.
As far as the guardians going forward, i think they were veryyyy intentional with that new guardians team. Having Rocket and Groot be the leading and returning characters work in the very long term cause its just voice acting. So you can bring in Bradley and Vin for a couple hours and get, lets say a full season of lines for maybe a future Guardians streaming show. and then the characters you put around them, another voice actor with cosmo, a young kid no one knows, Will Poulter you are only just now bringing in on a long term deal and he's very new so you can still easily have him for the next decade min. And Sean Gunn isn't exactly a busy actor and probably loves playing the role and would love a bigger role. I also think having Star Lord on earth was very intentional because like, who's leading this current iteration of the Avengers? Like you and winston mentioned the other day, we are thin on All Stars. You won't have RDJ, Evans, Hemsworth, Scar Jo, Renner or Chadwick. It's hard to have Holland lead your team long term when you don't have full control of his character. Doc Strange went on a whatever side journey so who knows when that comes back. Who knows whats up with Wanda. Sam Wilson is still pretty fresh to be the leading man on the next Avengers poster. Same with Shang-Chi. So you're left with Paul Rudd, Mark Ruffalo & Chris Pratt. And Chris Pratt as Star Lord is probably the biggest known star out of the lot of them. It was a big time financial move to have him on earth now and keep him around.
It was great seeing a softer, more tender side to Nebula, like when she puts Peter in bed when he’s drunk, and when she knows that Rocket is okay. She showed a maternal side that we haven’t seen before. Nebula was wonderful.
GOTG3 is a top 5 MCU movie for me. Seen it twice, trying to catch it a 3rd time and had to rethink some things but it is one of the most fulfilling experiences I have ever had watching a MCU movie & that is saying something
@Bruce debatable, but when did I ever say something else was? That statement has essentially no value because are just saying any movie with one flaw is equal to a movie with 100 flaws. The script in NWH makes no sense in the first act but makes up with the cameos and fan service. I liked the movie, but it has logical flaws, moreso than GotG3.
@@austincarlson9270 Chill mate. I was just purely responding that the No Way Home was still a great film despite its flaws. GOTG Vol. 3 has it story flaws too. So it’s all just matter of opinion of which film worked better for everyone. That’s all.
@Bruce I have to give gotg3 a rewatch but I don't see a lot of story issues outside of some tonal jumps with the flashbacks, a pacing issue in the 1st act, and some plot convinces. Doctor Steange straight up agreed to wipe everyone's memory of Peter Parker as Spiderman without any logical deductive reasoning. Then you have the Multiverse explanation differing from the Loki version, which felt cheap.
I didn’t even remember that “No Sleep Till Brooklyn” was in Mario, while it in Guardians is forever ingrained into my brain. I think that’s the difference of just using a famous song and the music almost being a character itself and fitting thematically and making sense.
Lylla was the most heartbreaking part of the movie along with the final shot of Rocket howling and embracing being a Raccoon that he knows he is, contrasted to the past shot of Vol. 2 of him crying 🥲
I second pretty much all of what you guy said here. This is the best MCU movie I've seen in a while. If I had one little nitpick, I wish we had gotten a scene or two that showed how Rocket and Groot met. I feel like that's a pretty important event for us to see, but that's only a minor issue. Also, I agree with Winston that Quill will probably become an Avenger and that Rocket's new team might join in at some point to help battle a threat of some kind in the future. I'd also love to see a movie or a series with Rocket's team or one with Stallone's character's team. The door seems open for a lot of possibilities. I'm glad everyone lived. Killing any of them off would've been too sad and simply too obvious. Considering what each of these characters have been through in their lives, they all deserve a happy ending. I know we'll see Quill again and that we won't see Gamora and Drax again, but I hope we'll see the rest of them again in some capacity.
For the record early out of the cocoon Adam was immature directly after his creation in the comics. He IS a child. Most people are so obsessed with and only know THE Adam Warlock, keeper of the Soul stone, he didn’t start there, he was developed over time in the comics too. Honestly in comics fully formed Adam is a bit boring, especially his Infinity Watch stuff. For me his best stuff is with the Guardians and this tracked for me as a comic reader.
I love this movie. It was great. But I think that Guardians 2 still hits better for me. Break the Chain is such a better song than No Sleep Til Brooklyn (I have always hated that song), and I cry every time they play it in Volume 2. Also, I love when Quill creates a giant Pac Man. It's so stupid but it's great.
30:51 On Winston's Adam Warlock take. I get that his comic portrayal may be more serious, but think about it. If they throw him into the guardians as that skilled and serious version of himself he has nowhere to grow. The goal is always to tell more stories. By the end of this film he's part of a new/young guardians of the galaxy group, and that group has one thing in common; they're all inexperienced in their roles. Even rocket will be new to the role of leader, so the whole team has so much room to grow and experience things. If Adam was who he is in the comics, he wouldn't be able to be in that group without the next writers always having to disable him somehow to explain why he isn't just saving the day every time. I think he'll get there, and watching that journey is way more fun then him already being that guy on day 1 😄
For years I have never understood everyone’s preoccupation with death in these films, as if it’s the only way to elicit dramatic tension? From trailer one I never truly thought anyone was going to die BECAUSE the trailer led with it. Gunn is a master manipulator in the best way, if death was truly going to be a giant part of this they never would’ve teased it. I’ve always said theres so many other ways to wring emotion and drama than death.
For me, the trailer set me up to think there would be a big death, and it's funny how wrong I was. I saw Quill being carried by Nebula as a hint at his death and then Rocket with the Zune as proof that either SL had died or become incapacitated at the climax with Rocket needing to take over as leader. And yet, those scenes all happen in the first 10 minutes.
@@jaustill237 I love that! I never went for it because of how much Gunn likes to preserve the surprise of his stories. Guardians 2 had a huge meaningful character death with Yondu and in no way did they telegraph his death or that he would be emotionally crucial to the story. The Vol 3 trailer’s just laid it on too thick for me to believe it. Lol
Adam was a product of the High Evolutionary. This entire movie was about him needing Rocket's brain because none of his other creations were smart enough.
Never have I ever been so fascinated and amazed by a villain in a film. These time I ever felt this was Killmonger in the 1st black panther movie played by Michael B Jordan and kind of Wen wu in shang chi. Ronan was cool but there was no connection The way Chukwudi plays the High evolutionary definitely reminded me of Jonathan Majors, but I have a feeling this is what the director of Quantumania, wanted us to see in Kang, not exactly but similar like in terms of personality but far from it,like a knowledgeable, quiet smart, grace, elegant intelligent man who was obsessed with recreating something and cleansing everything, feeling like he was chosen. Whilst watching the movie, there was a scene where he was surrounded by lots of people as if he was the messiah, like JC, which made me believe that he could be a televangalist. I love how the GotG films started and ended with a villain, who are similar. 1st one = a religious zealot who is obsessed with cleansing (whipping out) a race and the 3rd one = a geneticist who believes in creating a much better race, like Red Skull, about evolution. Knowledge, someone who is Also bring displeased with how and the way humans look and are behaving. I would love to hear your thoughts on that? I was hoping that you 3 was going to discuss and compare the high evolutionary and kang the conqueror, how they are similar, in how they conduct themselves. I had an interesting rabbir hole on RUclips and the intenret on how these 2 actors got into their characters, who they were influenced by. I feel like James Gunn reminds me of Taika Watiti and a tiny bit of Edgar Wright in terms of directing and humour respectively, and Quentin Tarantino in terms of visual style feel. Volume 3 had a similar vibe, aesthetic and energy to the first film of the franchise which I loved. Serious but with enough jokes to balance the often times dark and very dark depressing moments. But They don't feel like they overbalanced in my opinion. Likewise with Zack Snyder, Taika Watiti and Ryan Coogler, should Gunn or all 4 of them do a masterclass or some lecture/seminar on filmmakng. Without hesitation, i would sign up and join, listening. Thanks for your review guys. Absolutely loved it.
It's not clicking for me why everyone is praising High Evolutionary. It felt like a standard "Egotistical villain gets bested by someone viewed as inferior and devolves into desperate yelling," performance and motivation. Even the execution of his plans (the perfect society angle) were illogical and uninspired
Warlocks early (I wanna say first) appearance when he kidnaps Sif for a bride he was pretty childlike. I’m good with him being that, because honestly, a smart/scheming Warlock like the comics with his power level would have decimated the Guardians. I’m good the way the did it, but am executed to see Warlock’s development. Also I’m old school, so a Warlock without a Drax around and a Thanos to fight is a little bittersweet, but I’ll live. I finally have Warlock.
I really loved this movie, so emotional. For me, the best of the trilogy. Like Coy said in a recent video with you, most would think that Marvel is back with this movie and everyone is happy again. I also loved Doctor Strange and enjoyed most of phase 4 (except Thor). We shall see what's to come. I love hearing you three, greetings from Spain!
The first post credit scene was great imo. Rocket basically taking starlords position as the leader playing the music that this trilogy all started with 👌🏼 I’d be upset if we didn’t see the new team in the future!
I think one thing that's been missing in phase 4 movies/TV shows is the feeling of "heroism". Guardians 3 made these characters feel so heroic like how MCU phase 1 characters felt. These are superheroes, they are supposed to feel larger than life doing impossible things which gives you a feeling of "hope". But I think in phase 4, many characters just didn't feel that way in how they were written. This is one reason why I think Superman is in good hands. James Gunn gets that feeling. Superman is going to feel larger than life and someone who will give you hope when you watch him on the screen. He's going to be a badass doing things that are just unimaginable. I think there's a lot of that in MCU phase 1-3. Iron Man & Captain America both capture that feeling really well. And I think this is part of the magic. Hopefully Marvel can get it back moving forward.
What's interesting about Adam Warlock is, before he became the space hero, he was the hero of Counter-Earth, and the High Evolutionary was a father figure (before he was shown to be more villainous). Adam was first introduced in the Fantastic Four, created by a trio of evil scientists to be the ultimate human, who when he hatches from his cocoon flies off into space, not to be seen again for years. Then comes his time with the High Evolutionary, and then him and The Magus, then Thanos over and over.
I saw the first guardians the night before I started the 6th grade with my dad and I came home from college on Thursday to go watch this one with him. This is the best mcu trilogy and this movie might be my favorite mcu film.
Being someone who has enjoyed almost all post-Endgame stuff, it's really nice to not have to listen to everyone just hating movies I like :) Let's enjoy the moment before The Marvels -hate takes over :p
@@ristoravela652 lol that’s fair I’ve enjoyed the majority of them except for Thor 4 and Quantamania. It just hasn’t been as good quality wise for me anyways, glad to see people enjoy them. But as you said you better believe the unbearable hate of The Marvels is coming regardless if it’s good or bad.
I've noticed a few similarities in movies recently. Creed III and Shazam 2 both had their finale's take place in Baseball stadiums (Dodgers and Phillies). Shazam 2 used the song "I need a hero" then Super Mario used "I need a hero". And then as you guys pointed out both Mario and GOTG 3 use "No sleep till Brooklyn".
Pratt has spoken about if he'd stay or go, something like, it would be difficult without James, but I'd be open to it, but it would be difficult, especially without the gang.
A small negative for me was the score was not as strong as the first 2. Not the song selection but the score, as I watched it I was like this isn’t great and then at the end I looked it up and they didn’t use Tyler bates. There where moments when I was like this score is messing up some of these moments. Not the whole movie but a few moments. Overall I enjoyed the film and want to go again next weekend.
Personally, I think the "Legendary" in "The Legendary Star-Lord Will Return" is an important clue. While they can't really do the Spartax plot as written, they could easily still have Mr Knife. Also, this would be the perfect opportunity to delve into his relationship with Kitty Pryde.
Groot was the first to use the F word, ""He(Groot) says, Welcome to the frickin' Guardians Of The Galaxy. Only he didn't use frickin'." - Rocket Racoon
I think the dopest way for Quill to show back up is on earth fighting a small alien threat in Missouri. And during that show or movie, drax could show up one more time just to hang with and check on Quill. And I think the funniest way for drax to show up would be quietly, like he did in vol 2. It would be hilarious and a good surprise. And we can find out that him and nebula actually are in a relationship. Backstory, he wanted to go hang with Quill but nebula is hell bent on him being on kno where to raise the kids. He sneaks away on a ship but she knows. So she pulls up at the end to snatch him up and go back to kno where. I hope somebody at marvel sees this and steals it😂. I wouldn’t care cause that would be great.
Back in the day, when Marvel Studios did huge multi-film deals, I remember reading Chris Pratt had signed a 9-film deal with them, like Sebastian Stan did. Chris Evans was offered a 9-film deal but his original contract was lowered to 6 films. I believe all the other actors have satisfied their contracts. If the Holiday special counts as an appearance, Chris Pratt has 2 films still left, most likely Secret Wars being one of them. It is no surprise to me; Marvel would announce someone returning and that character would be Star-Lord.
This movie is so good! I've been listening to "Do you realize?" & "This is the Day" on loop since I saw the film for the 1st time. Last night, was my 3rd viewing. Also I spotted Tiffany Smith.
That Saved By The Bell DVD set is everything I'm in my late 20s and watched the reruns damn near everyday in the morning going to middle school, even the college years lmao.
For Superman, I can see Gunn's humor in the dynamic between Lois, Clark and a Jimmy Olsen. I think it can work, but I am worried about how far he'd go with it. GOTG vol 3 does make me hopeful about having a more balanced tone for Superman, but if there's any character that Gunn seems like he'd use a vessel for his usual humor, I think it'd definitely be Lois. Jimmy may also fit that tone too. Hoping they play Clark as a sort of a Straight Man to their humor tho (if he does go that route).
I know it's a kids movie, but maybe the one thing that bugged me about "Super Mario Bros." was the needle drops throughout. I always hate when pre-existing songs are used in movies, JUST to have them in there. What I've always loved about "Guardians" is that the music has an actual story/character purpose, as they're part of Quill's catalogue of music that he's collected from his mom and others over the years. When "No Sleep Til Brooklyn" dropped for the massive "Kingsman"-style fight at the end, with ALL the Guardians are finally together, and fighting collectively as a team... I was like, "Fuck yeah." Loved this movie, for real. I stiiiiill think the first "Guardians" is my favorite of the trilogy, but this is right there knocking at the door. Hell, maybe it'll overtake it someday depending on how I feel. But this was a great entry to the "Guardians" storyline, and the MCU overall. The chemistry amongst the team is first and foremost when it comes to these movies, and this delivered on that, with a few changes; including Gamora being an alternate version, Nebula being an actual active member of the team and supplanting her sister as the kinda mother-figure, Mantis being a more vocal presence, and Rocket being less of a hothead, and more just weary. It all came together so well in the end. I really will miss seeing *this* iteration of the Guardians together.
They mentioned in the movie that Adam Warlock was a child. He hasn’t developed mentally yet. He seemed more together in that end credit scene, but I don’t think he’s ever going to be like his comic book counterpart, so for me, this is an interpretation of the character, not a carbon copy of the character. I’m fine with that. Let’s see how they develop the character.
I say it is. I wasn't this emotionally invested with an MCU film since (you guessed it) Endgame. Easily the best installment out of the 3 for Guardians of the Galaxy. Loved every aspect to it to even Rockets backstory. My hats off for James Gunn. Job well done
We all have had the conversation on what star power will lead these movies now that cap and iron man are gone. I honestly think starlord may just be that character for us. He may be best to lead the avengers. We love him, feel for him, and love Chris Pratt. There isn’t any other actor or character that has the gravitas as starlod and that’s only because of how good James Gunn directed these movies
Rocket seeing his friends, whether it was in Heaven (which all animals except Dolphins go to), or his synapses rapidly firing, that was what emotionally damaged me. Rocket's friends initially dying was also sad, but props to Chukwudi Iwuji, because I bypassed the saddness at that moment, and just felt hatred for the High Evolutionary. That was the first Marvel villain I've ever felt that way for. The other ones are like sympathetic, semi-interesting, or super bland. The last time I hated a villain this much, was Jason Issac's character in The Patriot.
Definitely the most rewatchable of the post end game movies. My biggest gripe was this. In vol2 quil looses his God mode that saved his live in volume one in space when giving Gamora his mask. So what does he go as a person who fights aliens and bad guys IN SPACE, leaves his mask and rocket boots somewhere else, and should have died in space.
Winston kills me sometimes. He can't understand that Adam was hatched earlier, so he wasn't fully mature yet. Then he thinks it's a better idea for him to lose his memory in the first Battle, and that's why he acts the way he does.? Lol Love Winston
Many of the reasons I didn't like GOTG 2 much were redeemed by 3. I didn't like The Sovereign in 2 because they had no back story and seened to have no purpose other than shoe-horning Adam Warlock into the story, and I didn't like Rocket stealing the batteries for no reason, again it felt like a pointless act to get Warlock to chase them. But in context it makes sense now. The Sovereign were creations of The High Evolutionary and Rocket hates them and their attitude to genetic superiority hence stealing from them.
What's your issue, man? I was alluding to the fact that what we've seen with Warlock looks awful close to what Superman can do. At least we'll know that flying Superman scenes will look great.
The people I've known in real life who High Evolutionary reminds me off are all more or less unpredictable screamers, so to me the screaming was spot on.
First movie is still the best. Loved the humor in the first volume - the most balanced and natural, but volume 2 & 3 were too forced. Adam Warlock and High Evolutionary did not work for me. But overall, I still enjoy the movie, and I do like the battle sequences and how things were wrapped up if this is the last time we see some of them.
They could've and this is my ONLY thing that could change, not even really. They could've made Warlock the new 'Groot' by having him sacrifice himself/mind in a way he is reset and we go on a new journey with him to become a new 'Adam'.
I was wondering if the little girl at the end with the new Guardians, was a nod to the video game. The kids didn’t display any powers, and her eyes glowed and she had similar powers to the girl in the game.
I liked how James Gunn wanted to keep GOtG standalone despite how they were in Infinity War and Endgame. Then closing out characters with them being sent off rather than killed off is appropriate and how I can see the MCU ending
Caught the last part of your show at flappers spent like £11 thinking i’d get to replay the rest of it after the live finished but apparently once you pay and click watch it live you have to pay separately for the replay so I spent £11 to catch like maybe half an hour of the Gotg 3 talk with you Gregg and John🤦🏿♂️
I really liked this movie will definitely re watch it several times when it comes out on Disney plus but I’m going to skip past rockets past scenes. Don’t need to re watch that again .
Loved that Rockets key card to open the cages looked like Quill's cassettes. All last shots of the GOTG films, connect to Rocket. They put Sly in the classic Stakar costume!! I haven't bought an MCU blu ray since Endgame. Can't wait!!! to buy Vol 3. and watch/hear the bonus features.
29:27 I think you are thinking of how Will Poulter was cast as Pennywise in It when a different director started the project and left. After that he was recast with Skarsgard. I was actually bummed because I really wanted to see Poulters take on the role.
This was just as good or best in the trilogy. We needed a villain we hate but not another the galaxy at stake sort of story. Having rocket at the helm was genius and made me cry a bit. Honestly like a weird splice of marvel, toy story, ninja turtles and Rick n Morty all spliced into a bloody good time hahaha
Adam Warlock makes perfect sense when you consider who his mom is. That entire civilization (the gold people) are childish. So, Adam Warlock reflects them. Vision is Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, Ultron, and Jarvis. He has wisdom built in. Warlock is from a group of people who are devoid of wisdom.
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The “I’m Rocket the raccoon” was the “Avengers Assemble” moment for me in this movie. This was the most Iv ever cried watching an MCU film and it all comes down to Rocket fully accepting who he is and moving forward from his trauma
The rocket raccoon scene got me more hyped than cap catching thors hammer in EG. It was AMAZING, Bradley coopers line delivery was perfect. So perfectly set up through out the GOTG films.
The Beatles were first with Rocky Raccoon.....
I didn’t think the High Evolutionary shouted too much, it was always at the appropriate moments. Also, how bad-ass is it that Rocket shredded his face to that extent. That reveal was shocking.
Nebula is one of my favourite characters now. She went from so deplorable to so adorable seamlessly.
Couldn't agree more.
Still find her performance mostly awkward though
@@DamnFineCupOfCoffee she's supposed to be awkward. She had no friends til the Guardians and was tortured most of her life.
@@kevthepoet i mean the performance feels wrong. Another actress coulda sold awkwardness better imo
Biggest character arc tbh if you look at its totality.
I finally got to see this last night, and nothing was spoiled for me. I cry at movies but this BROKE me. All the Rocket flashbacks with Lylla, Teefs and Floor was so completely heartbreaking. This movie made me feel so many emotions and I can't wait to go back and feel them all again.
This was the first Marvel movie that made me cry.
Mine was Avengers: Endgame… “You can rest now, Tony”.- Pepper 😢
@@brucecrawford_17 yep same
@@bruce_17 I also love the silence when Tony dies. I definitely cried, and the music after he passes away is absolutely gorgeous!
@@daltonmeadesmith 💯 I understand. I cried too and stayed emotional from that silent moment till the end of the film! 😭
That for me was GotG Vol 2!!!
When Nebula told Drax he was Drax the Destroyer, but he was also Drax the Dad. That hit me, because if you go back to the first movie at the end, when he sits next to Rocket, having just lost Groot and is crying, Drax comforts him by petting him. Yeah, he's treating him like an animal, but he's showing him compassion and understanding, even if Drax doesn't understand what he's doing or why he's doing it, but it's a call back to his character in the comics who, when reborn as the Destroyer, he loses his memories, but there's something paternal in him that shines through. Yeah, pain in the ass, but he's always there to protect the others, even at the risk of his own life.
I burst into tears when Nebula reacted to hearing Rocket was okay.
Me too! Nebula was amazing
Amazing moment.
The look Nebula gives Gamora at the end right before she tells Peter “I bet we were fun” was so subtle but so awesome.
As I have collected my thoughts with this movie I've come to realize that cohesively the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy might be the most well thought out set of films in the MCU. From beginning to end it felt like we knew their journey, their backgrounds and how each conflict shaped their way of acting. I don't imagine we will see any of these characters pop up again unless it's for the next Avengers films (taking out the fact that some actors aren't returning) but looking back on it I thought they ended it well regardless of the few issues I had with it.
As far as the guardians going forward, i think they were veryyyy intentional with that new guardians team. Having Rocket and Groot be the leading and returning characters work in the very long term cause its just voice acting. So you can bring in Bradley and Vin for a couple hours and get, lets say a full season of lines for maybe a future Guardians streaming show. and then the characters you put around them, another voice actor with cosmo, a young kid no one knows, Will Poulter you are only just now bringing in on a long term deal and he's very new so you can still easily have him for the next decade min. And Sean Gunn isn't exactly a busy actor and probably loves playing the role and would love a bigger role. I also think having Star Lord on earth was very intentional because like, who's leading this current iteration of the Avengers? Like you and winston mentioned the other day, we are thin on All Stars. You won't have RDJ, Evans, Hemsworth, Scar Jo, Renner or Chadwick. It's hard to have Holland lead your team long term when you don't have full control of his character. Doc Strange went on a whatever side journey so who knows when that comes back. Who knows whats up with Wanda. Sam Wilson is still pretty fresh to be the leading man on the next Avengers poster. Same with Shang-Chi. So you're left with Paul Rudd, Mark Ruffalo & Chris Pratt. And Chris Pratt as Star Lord is probably the biggest known star out of the lot of them. It was a big time financial move to have him on earth now and keep him around.
It was great seeing a softer, more tender side to Nebula, like when she puts Peter in bed when he’s drunk, and when she knows that Rocket is okay. She showed a maternal side that we haven’t seen before. Nebula was wonderful.
“Open the fucking door” was hilarious
GOTG3 is a top 5 MCU movie for me. Seen it twice, trying to catch it a 3rd time and had to rethink some things but it is one of the most fulfilling experiences I have ever had watching a MCU movie & that is saying something
Thank y’all for the spoiler review. 🙏
In my opinion, this is the best MCU film since Spider-Man: No Way Home! 🙌
I thought no way home was fun but had a messy script.
@@austincarlson9270 No film is perfect.
@Bruce debatable, but when did I ever say something else was? That statement has essentially no value because are just saying any movie with one flaw is equal to a movie with 100 flaws. The script in NWH makes no sense in the first act but makes up with the cameos and fan service. I liked the movie, but it has logical flaws, moreso than GotG3.
@@austincarlson9270 Chill mate. I was just purely responding that the No Way Home was still a great film despite its flaws. GOTG Vol. 3 has it story flaws too. So it’s all just matter of opinion of which film worked better for everyone. That’s all.
@Bruce I have to give gotg3 a rewatch but I don't see a lot of story issues outside of some tonal jumps with the flashbacks, a pacing issue in the 1st act, and some plot convinces. Doctor Steange straight up agreed to wipe everyone's memory of Peter Parker as Spiderman without any logical deductive reasoning. Then you have the Multiverse explanation differing from the Loki version, which felt cheap.
I didn’t even remember that “No Sleep Till Brooklyn” was in Mario, while it in Guardians is forever ingrained into my brain. I think that’s the difference of just using a famous song and the music almost being a character itself and fitting thematically and making sense.
Lylla was the most heartbreaking part of the movie along with the final shot of Rocket howling and embracing being a Raccoon that he knows he is, contrasted to the past shot of Vol. 2 of him crying 🥲
"The deadpool reference" I was like, "Wtf, where, did I miss something?"
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Nebula and her friendship with Starlord is one of my absolute favourite aspects.
I second pretty much all of what you guy said here. This is the best MCU movie I've seen in a while. If I had one little nitpick, I wish we had gotten a scene or two that showed how Rocket and Groot met. I feel like that's a pretty important event for us to see, but that's only a minor issue. Also, I agree with Winston that Quill will probably become an Avenger and that Rocket's new team might join in at some point to help battle a threat of some kind in the future. I'd also love to see a movie or a series with Rocket's team or one with Stallone's character's team. The door seems open for a lot of possibilities. I'm glad everyone lived. Killing any of them off would've been too sad and simply too obvious. Considering what each of these characters have been through in their lives, they all deserve a happy ending. I know we'll see Quill again and that we won't see Gamora and Drax again, but I hope we'll see the rest of them again in some capacity.
Lost my Grandpa a few years ago, so when Peter hugs his Grandpa at the end:
I absolutely lost it. Great movie.
Baby Rocket’s 1st words being: “hurts”.
I was a mess 😢
I’m so sorry. I know how that feels. My dad’s dad passed away in February 2008, and my mom’s dad passed away two years ago.
For the record early out of the cocoon Adam was immature directly after his creation in the comics. He IS a child. Most people are so obsessed with and only know THE Adam Warlock, keeper of the Soul stone, he didn’t start there, he was developed over time in the comics too. Honestly in comics fully formed Adam is a bit boring, especially his Infinity Watch stuff. For me his best stuff is with the Guardians and this tracked for me as a comic reader.
I love this movie. It was great. But I think that Guardians 2 still hits better for me. Break the Chain is such a better song than No Sleep Til Brooklyn (I have always hated that song), and I cry every time they play it in Volume 2. Also, I love when Quill creates a giant Pac Man. It's so stupid but it's great.
30:51 On Winston's Adam Warlock take. I get that his comic portrayal may be more serious, but think about it. If they throw him into the guardians as that skilled and serious version of himself he has nowhere to grow. The goal is always to tell more stories. By the end of this film he's part of a new/young guardians of the galaxy group, and that group has one thing in common; they're all inexperienced in their roles. Even rocket will be new to the role of leader, so the whole team has so much room to grow and experience things. If Adam was who he is in the comics, he wouldn't be able to be in that group without the next writers always having to disable him somehow to explain why he isn't just saving the day every time. I think he'll get there, and watching that journey is way more fun then him already being that guy on day 1 😄
For years I have never understood everyone’s preoccupation with death in these films, as if it’s the only way to elicit dramatic tension? From trailer one I never truly thought anyone was going to die BECAUSE the trailer led with it. Gunn is a master manipulator in the best way, if death was truly going to be a giant part of this they never would’ve teased it. I’ve always said theres so many other ways to wring emotion and drama than death.
For me, the trailer set me up to think there would be a big death, and it's funny how wrong I was. I saw Quill being carried by Nebula as a hint at his death and then Rocket with the Zune as proof that either SL had died or become incapacitated at the climax with Rocket needing to take over as leader. And yet, those scenes all happen in the first 10 minutes.
@@jaustill237 I love that! I never went for it because of how much Gunn likes to preserve the surprise of his stories. Guardians 2 had a huge meaningful character death with Yondu and in no way did they telegraph his death or that he would be emotionally crucial to the story. The Vol 3 trailer’s just laid it on too thick for me to believe it. Lol
Adam was a product of the High Evolutionary. This entire movie was about him needing Rocket's brain because none of his other creations were smart enough.
None of his creations were smarter than *him* except for Rocket. That doesn't mean he was just making out here making idiots left and right
Never have I ever been so fascinated and amazed by a villain in a film. These time I ever felt this was Killmonger in the 1st black panther movie played by Michael B Jordan and kind of Wen wu in shang chi. Ronan was cool but there was no connection The way Chukwudi plays the High evolutionary definitely reminded me of Jonathan Majors, but I have a feeling this is what the director of Quantumania, wanted us to see in Kang, not exactly but similar like in terms of personality but far from it,like a knowledgeable, quiet smart, grace, elegant intelligent man who was obsessed with recreating something and cleansing everything, feeling like he was chosen. Whilst watching the movie, there was a scene where he was surrounded by lots of people as if he was the messiah, like JC, which made me believe that he could be a televangalist.
I love how the GotG films started and ended with a villain, who are similar. 1st one = a religious zealot who is obsessed with cleansing (whipping out) a race and the 3rd one = a geneticist who believes in creating a much better race, like Red Skull, about evolution. Knowledge, someone who is Also bring displeased with how and the way humans look and are behaving. I would love to hear your thoughts on that?
I was hoping that you 3 was going to discuss and compare the high evolutionary and kang the conqueror, how they are similar, in how they conduct themselves. I had an interesting rabbir hole on RUclips and the intenret on how these 2 actors got into their characters, who they were influenced by. I feel like James Gunn reminds me of Taika Watiti and a tiny bit of Edgar Wright in terms of directing and humour respectively, and Quentin Tarantino in terms of visual style feel. Volume 3 had a similar vibe, aesthetic and energy to the first film of the franchise which I loved. Serious but with enough jokes to balance the often times dark and very dark depressing moments. But They don't feel like they overbalanced in my opinion.
Likewise with Zack Snyder, Taika Watiti and Ryan Coogler, should Gunn or all 4 of them do a masterclass or some lecture/seminar on filmmakng. Without hesitation, i would sign up and join, listening.
Thanks for your review guys. Absolutely loved it.
One of the best villians the MCU has thrown at us! Up there with Thanos and The Purple Man from Jessica Jones
It's not clicking for me why everyone is praising High Evolutionary. It felt like a standard "Egotistical villain gets bested by someone viewed as inferior and devolves into desperate yelling," performance and motivation. Even the execution of his plans (the perfect society angle) were illogical and uninspired
GOTG 3 is the first MCU movie since Endgame that I want to rewatch in the theater. I saw it on Fri and loved it.
Warlocks early (I wanna say first) appearance when he kidnaps Sif for a bride he was pretty childlike.
I’m good with him being that, because honestly, a smart/scheming Warlock like the comics with his power level would have decimated the Guardians. I’m good the way the did it, but am executed to see Warlock’s development. Also I’m old school, so a Warlock without a Drax around and a Thanos to fight is a little bittersweet, but I’ll live. I finally have Warlock.
I really loved this movie, so emotional. For me, the best of the trilogy. Like Coy said in a recent video with you, most would think that Marvel is back with this movie and everyone is happy again. I also loved Doctor Strange and enjoyed most of phase 4 (except Thor). We shall see what's to come.
I love hearing you three, greetings from Spain!
I freaking love this movie. I saw it twice over the weekend and definitely will see it a third time. Best MCI flick since Infinity War
The mint mobile ad was GLORIOUS
The first post credit scene was great imo. Rocket basically taking starlords position as the leader playing the music that this trilogy all started with 👌🏼 I’d be upset if we didn’t see the new team in the future!
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I think one thing that's been missing in phase 4 movies/TV shows is the feeling of "heroism". Guardians 3 made these characters feel so heroic like how MCU phase 1 characters felt. These are superheroes, they are supposed to feel larger than life doing impossible things which gives you a feeling of "hope". But I think in phase 4, many characters just didn't feel that way in how they were written. This is one reason why I think Superman is in good hands. James Gunn gets that feeling. Superman is going to feel larger than life and someone who will give you hope when you watch him on the screen. He's going to be a badass doing things that are just unimaginable. I think there's a lot of that in MCU phase 1-3. Iron Man & Captain America both capture that feeling really well. And I think this is part of the magic. Hopefully Marvel can get it back moving forward.
Just showing a little bit of class
What's interesting about Adam Warlock is, before he became the space hero, he was the hero of Counter-Earth, and the High Evolutionary was a father figure (before he was shown to be more villainous). Adam was first introduced in the Fantastic Four, created by a trio of evil scientists to be the ultimate human, who when he hatches from his cocoon flies off into space, not to be seen again for years. Then comes his time with the High Evolutionary, and then him and The Magus, then Thanos over and over.
Starlord will pitch in during the next Avengers for sure. And I am VERY happy with that.
Why does star Lord not have his helmet anymore ?
Good question…
James Gunn said they left Knowhere too fast and he forgot it in his drawer.
I saw the first guardians the night before I started the 6th grade with my dad and I came home from college on Thursday to go watch this one with him. This is the best mcu trilogy and this movie might be my favorite mcu film.
Its definitely my favorite MCU movie! Its fun to be surprised by Marvel
Can I just say? It’s really nice to fully enjoy a marvel movie again.
Being someone who has enjoyed almost all post-Endgame stuff, it's really nice to not have to listen to everyone just hating movies I like :)
Let's enjoy the moment before The Marvels -hate takes over :p
@@ristoravela652 lol that’s fair I’ve enjoyed the majority of them except for Thor 4 and Quantamania. It just hasn’t been as good quality wise for me anyways, glad to see people enjoy them. But as you said you better believe the unbearable hate of The Marvels is coming regardless if it’s good or bad.
When “will return” hit the screen my theatre on the advanced imax preview night went NUTS
I've noticed a few similarities in movies recently. Creed III and Shazam 2 both had their finale's take place in Baseball stadiums (Dodgers and Phillies). Shazam 2 used the song "I need a hero" then Super Mario used "I need a hero". And then as you guys pointed out both Mario and GOTG 3 use "No sleep till Brooklyn".
Lots of "pick from this" happening!
Vision was just born but his consciousness was part Jarvis and part Ultron so it wouldn't have made sense for him to be childish
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Pratt has spoken about if he'd stay or go, something like, it would be difficult without James, but I'd be open to it, but it would be difficult, especially without the gang.
A small negative for me was the score was not as strong as the first 2. Not the song selection but the score, as I watched it I was like this isn’t great and then at the end I looked it up and they didn’t use Tyler bates. There where moments when I was like this score is messing up some of these moments. Not the whole movie but a few moments. Overall I enjoyed the film and want to go again next weekend.
Personally, I think the "Legendary" in "The Legendary Star-Lord Will Return" is an important clue. While they can't really do the Spartax plot as written, they could easily still have Mr Knife. Also, this would be the perfect opportunity to delve into his relationship with Kitty Pryde.
Groot was the first to use the F word, ""He(Groot) says, Welcome to the frickin' Guardians Of The Galaxy. Only he didn't use frickin'." - Rocket Racoon
I think the dopest way for Quill to show back up is on earth fighting a small alien threat in Missouri. And during that show or movie, drax could show up one more time just to hang with and check on Quill. And I think the funniest way for drax to show up would be quietly, like he did in vol 2. It would be hilarious and a good surprise. And we can find out that him and nebula actually are in a relationship. Backstory, he wanted to go hang with Quill but nebula is hell bent on him being on kno where to raise the kids. He sneaks away on a ship but she knows. So she pulls up at the end to snatch him up and go back to kno where. I hope somebody at marvel sees this and steals it😂. I wouldn’t care cause that would be great.
Back in the day, when Marvel Studios did huge multi-film deals, I remember reading Chris Pratt had signed a 9-film deal with them, like Sebastian Stan did. Chris Evans was offered a 9-film deal but his original contract was lowered to 6 films. I believe all the other actors have satisfied their contracts. If the Holiday special counts as an appearance, Chris Pratt has 2 films still left, most likely Secret Wars being one of them. It is no surprise to me; Marvel would announce someone returning and that character would be Star-Lord.
having chris pratt's star-lord return in a NOVA movie would also be cool. use him as a mentor for sam alexander ala spider-man homecoming.
This movie is so good! I've been listening to "Do you realize?" & "This is the Day" on loop since I saw the film for the 1st time. Last night, was my 3rd viewing. Also I spotted Tiffany Smith.
Starlord in the Avengers would be great, probably the boost that Marvel needs right now
The tracking shot during the battle near the end was so Awesometacular
4:31 this is why we can never have a chronological spoiler review discussion 😢
That Saved By The Bell DVD set is everything I'm in my late 20s and watched the reruns damn near everyday in the morning going to middle school, even the college years lmao.
For Superman, I can see Gunn's humor in the dynamic between Lois, Clark and a Jimmy Olsen. I think it can work, but I am worried about how far he'd go with it. GOTG vol 3 does make me hopeful about having a more balanced tone for Superman, but if there's any character that Gunn seems like he'd use a vessel for his usual humor, I think it'd definitely be Lois. Jimmy may also fit that tone too. Hoping they play Clark as a sort of a Straight Man to their humor tho (if he does go that route).
Loved the show AGAIN. LAUGHS and intelligent conversation. Loved it again.
I know it's a kids movie, but maybe the one thing that bugged me about "Super Mario Bros." was the needle drops throughout. I always hate when pre-existing songs are used in movies, JUST to have them in there. What I've always loved about "Guardians" is that the music has an actual story/character purpose, as they're part of Quill's catalogue of music that he's collected from his mom and others over the years. When "No Sleep Til Brooklyn" dropped for the massive "Kingsman"-style fight at the end, with ALL the Guardians are finally together, and fighting collectively as a team... I was like, "Fuck yeah." Loved this movie, for real. I stiiiiill think the first "Guardians" is my favorite of the trilogy, but this is right there knocking at the door. Hell, maybe it'll overtake it someday depending on how I feel. But this was a great entry to the "Guardians" storyline, and the MCU overall. The chemistry amongst the team is first and foremost when it comes to these movies, and this delivered on that, with a few changes; including Gamora being an alternate version, Nebula being an actual active member of the team and supplanting her sister as the kinda mother-figure, Mantis being a more vocal presence, and Rocket being less of a hothead, and more just weary. It all came together so well in the end. I really will miss seeing *this* iteration of the Guardians together.
They mentioned in the movie that Adam Warlock was a child. He hasn’t developed mentally yet. He seemed more together in that end credit scene, but I don’t think he’s ever going to be like his comic book counterpart, so for me, this is an interpretation of the character, not a carbon copy of the character. I’m fine with that. Let’s see how they develop the character.
Loved Guardians 3. Thinking Star-Lord will show up in the next Avengers arc.
Maybe Nova?
setting up for Marvel Cosmic. Nova, Silver Surfer, Quasar, Galactus, Cancerverse etc.
the made the gnarliest Music video for 'No sleep till Brooklyn'
"What'd you think of the DeadPool reference?" And that right there folks is why Kristian is the SEGUE KING!!!!!!!
I lost it when Peter returned home. Been dreaming of that since 2014 😭
warlock intelligence and insight is gonna grow like crazy over time as he learns the universe. similar to vision
Just out the cinema... This was god tier Marvel in my opinion... All the emotions and all the vibes! 😅
I say it is. I wasn't this emotionally invested with an MCU film since (you guessed it) Endgame.
Easily the best installment out of the 3 for Guardians of the Galaxy. Loved every aspect to it to even Rockets backstory.
My hats off for James Gunn. Job well done
I think Starlord could show up in the Nova Disney Plus show. Maybe training Richard Rider to be a Nova corp.
I literally said "just leave the damn hat, Indy."
We all have had the conversation on what star power will lead these movies now that cap and iron man are gone. I honestly think starlord may just be that character for us. He may be best to lead the avengers. We love him, feel for him, and love Chris Pratt. There isn’t any other actor or character that has the gravitas as starlod and that’s only because of how good James Gunn directed these movies
I thiiiiiiiiink there's a Warlock coccoon in The Collector's lodgings in Vol1 as well. That's an easter egg though more than a plot element
After this movie, Nebula is my favorite Guardian and may be my favorite character in the MCU now.
Everyone is my favorite on the right day, but Nebula has been one of my top favorites since Guardians 2.
Rocket seeing his friends, whether it was in Heaven (which all animals except Dolphins go to), or his synapses rapidly firing, that was what emotionally damaged me. Rocket's friends initially dying was also sad, but props to Chukwudi Iwuji, because I bypassed the saddness at that moment, and just felt hatred for the High Evolutionary. That was the first Marvel villain I've ever felt that way for. The other ones are like sympathetic, semi-interesting, or super bland. The last time I hated a villain this much, was Jason Issac's character in The Patriot.
Definitely the most rewatchable of the post end game movies.
My biggest gripe was this. In vol2 quil looses his God mode that saved his live in volume one in space when giving Gamora his mask.
So what does he go as a person who fights aliens and bad guys IN SPACE, leaves his mask and rocket boots somewhere else, and should have died in space.
Oh I for some reason didn't even notice he was without a mask the entire movie...HA!
@@VitaminStudios ive watched too many cinemasins over the years to not see that
Winston kills me sometimes. He can't understand that Adam was hatched earlier, so he wasn't fully mature yet. Then he thinks it's a better idea for him to lose his memory in the first Battle, and that's why he acts the way he does.? Lol Love Winston
I loved this film. I found it interesting that Linda Cardellini who plays Hawkeyes wife was the voice of Lyla the Otter.
Many of the reasons I didn't like GOTG 2 much were redeemed by 3. I didn't like The Sovereign in 2 because they had no back story and seened to have no purpose other than shoe-horning Adam Warlock into the story, and I didn't like Rocket stealing the batteries for no reason, again it felt like a pointless act to get Warlock to chase them. But in context it makes sense now. The Sovereign were creations of The High Evolutionary and Rocket hates them and their attitude to genetic superiority hence stealing from them.
Koi hit the nail on the head about how Gunn is using Warlock as training wheels for the eventual Superman. Can't wait to see those epic flight scenes!
That makes 0 sense. Gunn made this movie long before he decided to write Superman, let alone direct it.
What's your issue, man? I was alluding to the fact that what we've seen with Warlock looks awful close to what Superman can do. At least we'll know that flying Superman scenes will look great.
Kristian you had me crying this episode 😂😂😂
The people I've known in real life who High Evolutionary reminds me off are all more or less unpredictable screamers, so to me the screaming was spot on.
First movie is still the best. Loved the humor in the first volume - the most balanced and natural, but volume 2 & 3 were too forced. Adam Warlock and High Evolutionary did not work for me. But overall, I still enjoy the movie, and I do like the battle sequences and how things were wrapped up if this is the last time we see some of them.
They could've and this is my ONLY thing that could change, not even really. They could've made Warlock the new 'Groot' by having him sacrifice himself/mind in a way he is reset and we go on a new journey with him to become a new 'Adam'.
Great discussion and good movie.
Thanos is Gus Fring and The High Evolutionary is Tuco Salamanca
I was wondering if the little girl at the end with the new Guardians, was a nod to the video game. The kids didn’t display any powers, and her eyes glowed and she had similar powers to the girl in the game.
I liked how James Gunn wanted to keep GOtG standalone despite how they were in Infinity War and Endgame. Then closing out characters with them being sent off rather than killed off is appropriate and how I can see the MCU ending
Caught the last part of your show at flappers spent like £11 thinking i’d get to replay the rest of it after the live finished but apparently once you pay and click watch it live you have to pay separately for the replay so I spent £11 to catch like maybe half an hour of the Gotg 3 talk with you Gregg and John🤦🏿♂️
Honestly I feel like the ending with more deserving and came off better than what they did with Thor love and thunder.
Im happy with Adam Warlock being a one off, to be honest. There's so much other stuff going on.....I want more focused stories moving forward.
I really liked this movie will definitely re watch it several times when it comes out on Disney plus but I’m going to skip past rockets past scenes. Don’t need to re watch that again .
Loved that Rockets key card to open the cages looked like Quill's cassettes. All last shots of the GOTG films, connect to Rocket. They put Sly in the classic Stakar costume!! I haven't bought an MCU blu ray since Endgame. Can't wait!!! to buy Vol 3. and watch/hear the bonus features.
All positive vibes from this movie lifelong Marvel fan. Wife who is a fair weather fan, cried/balled as much as well to be honest if did.
29:27 I think you are thinking of how Will Poulter was cast as Pennywise in It when a different director started the project and left. After that he was recast with Skarsgard. I was actually bummed because I really wanted to see Poulters take on the role.
I subscribed because of Kristian's Arnold voice impression... the Stallone voice just as funny!
This was just as good or best in the trilogy. We needed a villain we hate but not another the galaxy at stake sort of story. Having rocket at the helm was genius and made me cry a bit. Honestly like a weird splice of marvel, toy story, ninja turtles and Rick n Morty all spliced into a bloody good time hahaha
cant believe you didnt mention the howard the duck cameo
Do you still have your Mandalorian live reactions (audio commentary) somewhere?
Awww, I guessed Kristian's funniest moment wrongly. I was sure that it was going to be 'Open the ****ing door'.
Adam Warlock makes perfect sense when you consider who his mom is. That entire civilization (the gold people) are childish. So, Adam Warlock reflects them. Vision is Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, Ultron, and Jarvis. He has wisdom built in. Warlock is from a group of people who are devoid of wisdom.
thank you for the zubilee zoo, I wasn't ready LOL