Jethro Tull (Ian Anderson, Martin Barre, Barriemore Barlow, John Evan, John Glascock) performing 'Salamander' and 'Taxi Grab' during a 1976 TV Special.
Ian seems to like to focus on different musician's guitar styles. Like Crest of a Knave seemed to be heavily influenced by Mark Knopfler and Dire Straits ... but Salamander is straight out of the English Folk ... and kind of bluegrass style of John Renbourn ... that super-loose slide guitar sound.
What amazes me is how much video there is of Jethro Tull and Ian. It's almost like Ian could foresee the Internet and You-Tube! I really do not know any other band or musician that has so much video online. It is great.
Have to admit that this is not my favorite Tull album from the 70s, but this lineup of Ian Anderson, Martin Barre, John Evan, Barrie Barlow, and John Glascock was a phenomenally talented group of musicians. BTW never knew Ian could play the harmonica...
@@rockymountboy Yes, and Ian also played harmonica on a few early Tull records when they were basically a British blues/jazz group. At the time I wrote my original comment I had not yet delved into the early bluesy Tull albums like This Was and Stand Up.
Wonder what the writing and composing order was- if Ian did the original and they all flushed it out and built on a theme. Kind of like pealing something- underneath the layers you have a core theme, repeated refrain, and reprise.
@@petersonlafollette3521 According to many things I have read, that's exactly how the composing worked within Tull. Ian was almost always the one with the original ideas for the songs and wrote all lyrics (hence why he always got the writing credits), but the rest of the band, especially Evan, Barre, and Palmer, also had big roles in some of the composing and arranging. I have read though that this particular album (Too Old to Rock & Roll) was primarily composed by Anderson with little to no input from the band.
IA is rightly renowned for flute playing but this has overshadowed his brilliant, unrivalled acoustic guitar playing. He's a genius and the greatest musician and song-writer produced by Britain in the 20th/21st Centuries and that includes Lennon & McCartney who were geniuses too but they did not have IA's musicianship, musical range, originality, and uniqueness. No-one writes lyrics like IA.
The dancer is Cherry Gillespie, ex Pans People TOTP star and teenage fantasy. She and the other dancers from that troupe had played with Tull at the Rainbow in Nov`74. Cherry became good mates with Shona Learoyd ( Anderson) and sang b/v on a Tull single `Stitch in time` Sept `78.
Acoustic masterpiece that is...Salamander ; with a wonderful bass entry by John Glascock & flute-playing by mr.Anderson. Taxi Grab= one of my personal favourites of "Too old to Rock'n roll"
WENN SO EIN AUSNAHMEMUSIKER WIE IAN ANDERSON WIE HIER 1976 PERFORMT,DANN KÖNNEN NUR SPITZENMUSIKER DABEI SEIN!!😊 MARTIN BARRE,JOHN EVAN UND BARRIE BARLOW,JOHN GLASCOCK DAS WAR DIE GROSSE BAND JETHRO TULL.❤❤😊😊😊
This is the greatest greatest album ever too old to rock and roll Too Young To Die what a great album rest in peace my friend rest in peace we love you we love you just wrote All you are the best
I've had a copy of this TV special on VHS for over 20 years and it doesn't include Salamander, wow, thanks for upload! It's one of my fav Anderson songs of all time. The dancing girl is amazingly beautiful. I want one for my own.
Fantastic i have been telling people for years about this show and the wonderful truly beautiful Cherry Gillespie. yes, it was a tv special on the commercial station ITV at the time of the Montreal Olypmics. BBC showed the Olypmics and ITV showed rock and pop concerts and specials in competition. Cheers Ben.
5:12 - love that dinosaur rock cliche guitar solo in this song. And I gotta say, ain't no one that moves like Ian on-stage. I wonder how and where he developed that peculiar hand-signal style of dancing ... it's amazing - 5:42 I wonder if that is a way for him to stretch his hands and wrists from so much playing in a concert?
Hard to process that groups as popular as Tull would go to the trouble of performing a whole album for TV , and the networks would refuse to air even one song . But some of this was the social / political views of bands like Tull and Pink Floyd , and forget the MC Five or the Airplane . But fluff like the Carpenters or Donnie Osmond always got special shows and attention . The 70's was a sleepy decade , but the divisions of earlier times were still hanging around .
si no ves la imagen antigua y macarra, son junto con los clásicos como beethoven ("antigua" y reaccionaria) lo mejor de lo mejor. mi vida ha estado marcada (en cuanto a la música) por genios como estos.
They are playing over the studio album recording, both Salamander and Taxi Grab. There are extra acoustic guitar lines in Salamander, and the solo in TG is doubled with only Barre on electric (auto-harmonizers were not so popular back then...). Maybe they played a multitrack studio version, ommiting or adding just the desired tracks. Hard to do, but it's obvious these guys had no limits.
The bass isn't the studio version on either track, nor some of the electric guitar. Nor is at least some of the harmonica the studio version. Barre and Glascock are both plugged in and Glascock does look at his amp settings. I suspect they are playing live over part of the studio recording, but only (in Taxi Grab) bass, one guitar, and harmonica. The vocals are far too clear to be live given the live reproduction options of the day and there are no vocal monitors either, and the playback would cause feedback, but the harmonica is close and cupped, so would present fewer issues. There are no mics on the drums (it would look a mess if they'd put up enough mics) so those aren't part of what is being heard on the recordings, although I am sure they could hear them when playing. It's impressive if that is what is happening as Barlow isn't wearing headphones (see Keith Moon) so must be playing pretty perfectly along to playback through standard speakers somewhere, which is not simple.
I believe this is the studio track as they are acting to it. I have this DVD and it is excellent. This was an English tv special I think. I believe its all studio and they are acting to it.
Trust Tull to hang on to blues in their vast repertoire despite ditching Abrahams in 1969. Taxi Grab is as good as any blues song on the first JT album "This Was" , which was mostly Blues based
It sounds like some of the tracks from the studio version, with new overdubs (bass, some guitar, flute, possibly slightly different backing voals - Martin Barre seems to be singing and it may be on the recording). The same is true of Taxi Grab - that's not the same bass cut, there's a different guitar take, and a different harmonica part. Whether it was done live I am not sure, although it might have been done in terms of recording a live take to overlay a subset of the studio tracks. The drums aren't being recorded in Taxi Grab, nor are the vocals.
I thought they overdubbed the studio tracks on this for this TV special. David Rees said it was studio overdub on the liner notes of the 20 years box set.
True, it has the exact same chords for like the first 20 seconds. I'm guessing it's because "Too Old to Rock & Roll" was not originally meant to be released as an official Tull album, but was instead supposed to be a soundtrack for a play.
I remember Ian said he picked up the flute cause he never would be as good on guitar as Clapton or Page. I think Clapton would be hard pressed to play some of the more intricate acoustic songs of Ians. Maybe I'm wrong.
Anderson's guitar parts (not that I can play them that well) are less complex than you'd think in some ways. It's a combination of strumming and picking with various hammer ons, etc., but there are patterns that occur across different songs, so you can sort of learn to play in an Anderson style and apply that to a number of songs. The chord shapes are generally fairly standard. But... it's not easy just keeping it all going incessantly through the whole song without fluffing it. It's a very different style on acoustic from the standard strumming fare, but also very different from the virtuoso folk style such as Carthy, Jansch, etc.
@@wbertie2604 Ian's guitar parts aren't as complex as some parts by Steve Howe or Robert Fripp or many others, however remember that 95% of the time Ian's playing guitar he's also singing. Intermediate-level guitar parts plus singing is just as impressive to me as advanced-level guitar parts.
I understand the loss, but the ability for Ian to rebound is amazing! Even with the loss of his higher tones in his voice, he had that covered on the last few tours with a younger guy and wrote TAAB2 for his current voice and it was amazing! Ian will always come out on top.
The band carried on making great stuff, but never the same. I'm too young to remember this the first time around, but John Glascock was a one off, talented, and beautiful, wish that time could be rewound.
@@Jellybeantiger He is/was an incredible drummer. And Glascock was not only a good bassist but also had quite a good vocal range (wider than Anderson's). It was a great line up and it would have been nice to have seen what Crest of a Knave, etc would have been with this line up as I felt some of the life got sucked out of those albums, but maybe this lot would have kept it more vibrant.
Well it was a combination of the death of John Glascock and the record company convincing Ian to put out his planned solo album under the "Jethro Tull" name. With that said, the lineup was actually very stable from 71-79, just with Glascock replacing Jeffrey Hammond in 75.
I RODE Bikes & BACK then 😊& WENT OUT With an UPTOWN KENSINGTON Fur coat NO DRAWS 😁Form EXACTLY LIKE SALAMANDA 😣😕HER Mother HATED Me 😂😂😂😂😂😂&;SHE BROKE my Heat I JUMPED ON THE MILK !!!TRAIN Home TO SOUTHAMPTON 😨1 am in the Morning to You guys ALL FOR A Tasty !!!BLONDE 😣g
@JuilliardReject im my honest opinion, clapton has some good songs and all, but people like him are pretty overrated. from what ive heard atleast. and at the same time, i find that jethro tull is an underrated and less popular band from those times. and im not just talking about ian, but the whole group, all around.. true musicians in touch with with different roots.. not blues and all that, like clapton..
At the time (mid 70s), Tull were very popular, on the same level as bands like Led Zeppelin, Yes, Deep Purple, etc. But these days they seem to be treated almost as the redheaded stepchild of rock history, they're often forgotten about and sometimes treated as a punchline. That really sucks because they're one of the most unique bands in rock music history, no one ever sounded lkke them.
Going from throwing down unplugged to full blown rock. "Too Old to Rock n Roll" is a very underrated album
One of Tull's best
What 9makes you believe it's underrated? Did you travel the globe taking a survey from every citizen of world world? explain explain
Martin Barre & John Glascock absolutely rip this to pieces. Wish they had more time together.
I'be been playing guitar since 1991 and Salamander is by-far the most complex bard-song I've ever known or played.
Ian seems to like to focus on different musician's guitar styles. Like Crest of a Knave seemed to be heavily influenced by Mark Knopfler and Dire Straits ... but Salamander is straight out of the English Folk ... and kind of bluegrass style of John Renbourn ... that super-loose slide guitar sound.
such a beautiful array of chords!!!- not sure if i used that word right
Cacofonix has some really good ones too
@@justgivemethetruth Anderson es muy superior a knofler creo que la influencia es al revés Tull.es más grande q Diré S
I admire the ingenuity and talent of Ian Andeson. He is the greatest artist in the history of rock music. I love Jethro Tull
Fantastic Martin Barre too most underrated🎸❤
What amazes me is how much video there is of Jethro Tull and Ian.
It's almost like Ian could foresee the Internet and You-Tube!
I really do not know any other band or musician that has so much
video online. It is great.
Sadly only an eight minute video of the 1975 Minstrel tour.
almost none from their best years 71 - 75.
And yet some of their very best live performances were not recorded, Brick and APP tours.
HE IS A TIMELORD !!!😕 👍g
Have to admit that this is not my favorite Tull album from the 70s, but this lineup of Ian Anderson, Martin Barre, John Evan, Barrie Barlow, and John Glascock was a phenomenally talented group of musicians.
BTW never knew Ian could play the harmonica...
He can play anything put in front of him. Consider that the This Was album was recorded about a year after he first picked up the flute.
@@rockymountboy Yes, and Ian also played harmonica on a few early Tull records when they were basically a British blues/jazz group. At the time I wrote my original comment I had not yet delved into the early bluesy Tull albums like This Was and Stand Up.
Wonder what the writing and composing order was- if Ian did the original and they all flushed it out and built on a theme. Kind of like pealing something- underneath the layers you have a core theme, repeated refrain, and reprise.
@@petersonlafollette3521 According to many things I have read, that's exactly how the composing worked within Tull. Ian was almost always the one with the original ideas for the songs and wrote all lyrics (hence why he always got the writing credits), but the rest of the band, especially Evan, Barre, and Palmer, also had big roles in some of the composing and arranging. I have read though that this particular album (Too Old to Rock & Roll) was primarily composed by Anderson with little to no input from the band.
Go back to .THIS WAS! Plenty'o'Harp going on there!!
IA is rightly renowned for flute playing but this has overshadowed his brilliant, unrivalled acoustic guitar playing. He's a genius and the greatest musician and song-writer produced by Britain in the 20th/21st Centuries and that includes Lennon & McCartney who were geniuses too but they did not have IA's musicianship, musical range, originality, and uniqueness. No-one writes lyrics like IA.
The dancer is Cherry Gillespie, ex Pans People TOTP star and teenage fantasy. She and the other dancers from that troupe had played with Tull at the Rainbow in Nov`74. Cherry became good mates with Shona Learoyd ( Anderson) and sang b/v on a Tull single `Stitch in time` Sept `78.
NICK BAYLEY is she the same girl that’s in dire straits private investigations video? It sure looks like her.
Glasscock, what a combination of melody and precision he was!
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Acoustic masterpiece that is...Salamander ; with a wonderful bass entry by John Glascock & flute-playing by mr.Anderson. Taxi Grab= one of my personal favourites of "Too old to Rock'n roll"
Intriguing graphic interpretation on Salamander- both songs are wicked-good.
Dancing Angela Allen, vocalist, dancer and keyboardist of the progressive rock group Carmen, from which Glascock left to join JT.
Barlow my top 5 fave drummers.
WENN SO EIN AUSNAHMEMUSIKER WIE IAN ANDERSON WIE HIER 1976 PERFORMT,DANN KÖNNEN NUR SPITZENMUSIKER DABEI SEIN!!😊 MARTIN BARRE,JOHN EVAN UND BARRIE BARLOW,JOHN GLASCOCK DAS WAR DIE GROSSE BAND JETHRO TULL.❤❤😊😊😊
Love this. A highlight from a relatively low period in the band's history.
No weak link in this lineup,all brilliant,no wonder music critics were green with envy!
There is a load of Tull music the young need to hear …::
Ian's singing and Martin's guitar go hand in hand.
This is the greatest greatest album ever too old to rock and roll Too Young To Die what a great album rest in peace my friend rest in peace we love you we love you just wrote All you are the best
I've had a copy of this TV special on VHS for over 20 years and it doesn't include Salamander, wow, thanks for upload! It's one of my fav Anderson songs of all time.
The dancing girl is amazingly beautiful. I want one for my own.
I didnt find her beautiful at all and it was very distracting.
God dammit this is so great. The skills from these guys is amazing - even by todays standards!!!!
Saw it live in Pittsburgh 1976.. Awesome Show.
John Glascock was a great Jethro bassist
John Glascock is sooooo lovely. RIP.
Wow there are a lot of John Glascock fangirls...
That's a clinic on prog bass playing.
Never seen 66 years old still have a lot to see and learn 😅😮🎉😂❤ its Gold
my high days this was awsome!! meant to say high school days lol miss 70s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! loved warchild albuum and too old to rr!!!
jeeez, this is eternal!
Ian, you're a big genius!
Fantastic i have been telling people for years about this show and the wonderful truly beautiful Cherry Gillespie. yes, it was a tv special on the commercial station ITV at the time of the Montreal Olypmics. BBC showed the Olypmics and ITV showed rock and pop concerts and specials in competition. Cheers Ben.
Salamander, my fave song on the TOTRAR lp. Sublime. Thanks for posting this footage!
The two bests songs on TOTRAR
5:12 - love that dinosaur rock cliche guitar solo in this song.
And I gotta say, ain't no one that moves like Ian on-stage.
I wonder how and where he developed that peculiar hand-signal
style of dancing ... it's amazing - 5:42
I wonder if that is a way for him to stretch his hands and wrists from so much playing in a concert?
Hard to process that groups as popular as Tull would go to the trouble of performing a whole album for TV , and the networks would refuse to air even one song . But some of this was the social / political views of bands like Tull and Pink Floyd , and forget the MC Five or the Airplane . But fluff like the Carpenters or Donnie Osmond always got special shows and attention . The 70's was a sleepy decade , but the divisions of earlier times were still hanging around .
John Glascock... an unknown hero of rock... somedy remember Carmen with Glascock and Allen?
Daevid Allen?
Tull at their best, BAD ASS! tuve el placer de ver a JT en concierto en Alemania 1989. Un tremendo Show!
si no ves la imagen antigua y macarra, son junto con los clásicos como beethoven ("antigua" y reaccionaria) lo mejor de lo mejor. mi vida ha estado marcada (en cuanto a la música) por genios como estos.
They are playing over the studio album recording, both Salamander and Taxi Grab. There are extra acoustic guitar lines in Salamander, and the solo in TG is doubled with only Barre on electric (auto-harmonizers were not so popular back then...). Maybe they played a multitrack studio version, ommiting or adding just the desired tracks. Hard to do, but it's obvious these guys had no limits.
The bass isn't the studio version on either track, nor some of the electric guitar. Nor is at least some of the harmonica the studio version. Barre and Glascock are both plugged in and Glascock does look at his amp settings. I suspect they are playing live over part of the studio recording, but only (in Taxi Grab) bass, one guitar, and harmonica. The vocals are far too clear to be live given the live reproduction options of the day and there are no vocal monitors either, and the playback would cause feedback, but the harmonica is close and cupped, so would present fewer issues. There are no mics on the drums (it would look a mess if they'd put up enough mics) so those aren't part of what is being heard on the recordings, although I am sure they could hear them when playing. It's impressive if that is what is happening as Barlow isn't wearing headphones (see Keith Moon) so must be playing pretty perfectly along to playback through standard speakers somewhere, which is not simple.
As good as it gets. Thanks Ben.
eargasm!
Tullevision!
I believe this is the studio track as they are acting to it. I have this DVD and it is excellent. This was an English tv special I think. I believe its all studio and they are acting to it.
Trust Tull to hang on to blues in their vast repertoire despite ditching Abrahams in 1969.
Taxi Grab is as good as any blues song on the first JT album "This Was" , which was mostly Blues based
No lip synching here. Ian live with the harp and Martin with the slide.....Good Stuff! Thanks for posting.
The vocals aren't live, though.
They actually sadly "are" playing to the studio version here😔
Thanks BEN!! THANKS !! I can't believe this !! I thought there was no bigger Tull fan than I...
Siempre grandes Jethro tull !!!
You can really tell its studio overdub on the Big Dipper segment where he misses his vocals half way through in conjunction with the flute.
I always wanted to hear the flute in place of the harmonica in this song. It's great as is, just curious what it would sound like. Amazing I'd bet.
The end of Taxi Grab sounds like something from Captain Beefheart's Clear Spot album.
Wow! Excellent from Ben......
the salamander part sounds live.
It sounds like some of the tracks from the studio version, with new overdubs (bass, some guitar, flute, possibly slightly different backing voals - Martin Barre seems to be singing and it may be on the recording).
The same is true of Taxi Grab - that's not the same bass cut, there's a different guitar take, and a different harmonica part. Whether it was done live I am not sure, although it might have been done in terms of recording a live take to overlay a subset of the studio tracks. The drums aren't being recorded in Taxi Grab, nor are the vocals.
Beautiful
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I thought they overdubbed the studio tracks on this for this TV special. David Rees said it was studio overdub on the liner notes of the 20 years box set.
DEADLY Woman I Knew One From KENNSINGTON😔g
Cold wind to Valhalla has same starting sound and riff
I noticed that the first time I heard CWTV.
True, it has the exact same chords for like the first 20 seconds. I'm guessing it's because "Too Old to Rock & Roll" was not originally meant to be released as an official Tull album, but was instead supposed to be a soundtrack for a play.
For a full discussion of these songs, take a listen to the Talk Tull To Me Podcast : )
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Badass!✌️😎
... I Love You ...❤️I🤗 Love 🥰You ❤️...
this is probably an overdub but it's definitely not the album version
TY
Great.
I remember Ian said he picked up the flute cause he never would be as good on guitar as Clapton or Page. I think Clapton would be hard pressed to play some of the more intricate acoustic songs of Ians. Maybe I'm wrong.
Anderson's guitar parts (not that I can play them that well) are less complex than you'd think in some ways. It's a combination of strumming and picking with various hammer ons, etc., but there are patterns that occur across different songs, so you can sort of learn to play in an Anderson style and apply that to a number of songs. The chord shapes are generally fairly standard. But... it's not easy just keeping it all going incessantly through the whole song without fluffing it.
It's a very different style on acoustic from the standard strumming fare, but also very different from the virtuoso folk style such as Carthy, Jansch, etc.
Julliard, I have seen few of Ian's interviews on YT....he always said Clapton n Hendrix...well if he had said Page too...wow.
@@wbertie2604 Ian's guitar parts aren't as complex as some parts by Steve Howe or Robert Fripp or many others, however remember that 95% of the time Ian's playing guitar he's also singing. Intermediate-level guitar parts plus singing is just as impressive to me as advanced-level guitar parts.
creo que la chica que baila en salamander es Angela Allen... de Carmen, una exelente banda la cual tambien estaba John Glascock
With his outfit (wrap around shirt, furry boots), Barre seems to be prefiguring Star Wars and other gems like Ice Pirates.
Follow Your Bliss
What a name!! lol
Mayestuoso virtuoso Ian aerson guitarta Un toad por el señor iian andeson yoygor uileno
Rather different version to on the album.
first time I see Martin B. with slide on guitar
Seems like the cameraman was more interested in shooting the dancer than the band.
Yes how annoying.
@ty3165 Too Old to Rock'n'Roll, Too Young to Die! - 1976
@deweyfinn123
It's true, mate. And I feel that too since this album came out.
Both have the same rhythm and atmosphere :)
AWESOME. I only wish there werent a dancer for Salamander. I would rather see the band. I found her very distracting.
Think John Glascock's untimely death, marked the beginning of the end of a settled band line up. From 1980 on it was only a shell of a band.
I understand the loss, but the ability for Ian to rebound is amazing! Even with the loss of his higher tones in his voice, he had that covered on the last few tours with a younger guy and wrote TAAB2 for his current voice and it was amazing! Ian will always come out on top.
The band carried on making great stuff, but never the same. I'm too young to remember this the first time around, but John Glascock was a one off, talented, and beautiful, wish that time could be rewound.
Rebecca Hayward I missed Barlow,one of a kind drummer who suited Tull’s music like a glove.
@@Jellybeantiger He is/was an incredible drummer. And Glascock was not only a good bassist but also had quite a good vocal range (wider than Anderson's). It was a great line up and it would have been nice to have seen what Crest of a Knave, etc would have been with this line up as I felt some of the life got sucked out of those albums, but maybe this lot would have kept it more vibrant.
Well it was a combination of the death of John Glascock and the record company convincing Ian to put out his planned solo album under the "Jethro Tull" name.
With that said, the lineup was actually very stable from 71-79, just with Glascock replacing Jeffrey Hammond in 75.
This is the first time that I see Martin Barre playing slide guitar (Taxi Grab)
A metal slide... strange.
Perdon-Si, es angela allen. Que tipazo tenía.Yes she is angela.
GROSSSSO...!
low numbers of JT, but still good!
Is this lip-synched? Were is the second electric guitar part coming from?
Dillo Tank Tull used tapes all the time
I RODE Bikes & BACK then 😊& WENT OUT With an UPTOWN KENSINGTON Fur coat NO DRAWS 😁Form EXACTLY LIKE SALAMANDA 😣😕HER Mother HATED Me 😂😂😂😂😂😂&;SHE BROKE my Heat I JUMPED ON THE MILK !!!TRAIN Home TO SOUTHAMPTON 😨1 am in the Morning to You guys ALL FOR A Tasty !!!BLONDE 😣g
Zeppelin 1:33
what album is this off please?
A little late but if you don't already know "Too Old To Rock N Roll Too Young To Die"
@@aschule5684 thank you
Andrea Vercesi's is even better than Hicko's. Check it out.
ITS ALL BEING TWISTED AROUND TO OBLM 😮g
Bird
no me parece angela allen. parece otra cara. She is no Angella.
GAHH less bad dancing and more Tull rocking please editors.
What piss poor camera work for a great song. lol
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The female dancer is annoying and takes away from the performance of the first song but at least it was taped ...
I agree 💯 she's a beautiful lady too but not the time or place........
@JuilliardReject im my honest opinion, clapton has some good songs and all, but people like him are pretty overrated. from what ive heard atleast. and at the same time, i find that jethro tull is an underrated and less popular band from those times. and im not just talking about ian, but the whole group, all around.. true musicians in touch with with different roots.. not blues and all that, like clapton..
At the time (mid 70s), Tull were very popular, on the same level as bands like Led Zeppelin, Yes, Deep Purple, etc. But these days they seem to be treated almost as the redheaded stepchild of rock history, they're often forgotten about and sometimes treated as a punchline. That really sucks because they're one of the most unique bands in rock music history, no one ever sounded lkke them.
Ian fired more than twice as many idiotic musicians than he ever hired, and I was one of those was who wasn't 😮