2020 KARMA REVERO: The Lazarus Car (It’s Back From The Dead) - Autoline Test Drive Review
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Remember Fisker? It was a startup that crashed and burned. Now, a new set of owners re-incarnated the company and re-named it Karma. And the car that used to be called Karma is now called Revero. But more than just re-name it, they re-engineered it. Come take a look at the latest iteration.
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who's here after Doug mentioned the revero?
Me
Lol. Me!
Me
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Yup :-)
Notice he didn't talk about the backseat.... you know it's cramped
I was going to say ...
This would be alot better as a coupe
Thanks to Doug, since nobody has ever seen the backseat of one of these before. I assumed they would be huge since the car is so long. But the rear seats are pushed forward so much to make room for battery I guess
Yes it’s a long ass car with no interior room! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@Robloxgrl1 Sacrifice to the style gods.
Doug the type of guy who'll unknowingly promote car brands
Am Here after Doug mentioned Karma Revero in his fisker karma review
Me too 😂
Me also!!!
The type of commenter who makes annoying statements.
Me 2
Looks nice, they'll sell dozens.
I would say hundreds. Thousands on the outside. At $155K it is not going to sell in super high numbers. But If I won the lottery, I would get a Karma.
@@DocWolph If you did that then you would promptly become one of the thousands whom have won the lottery and went bankrupt. You will likely be able to pick one of these up in a few years at 40k. New Reveros are being marked down to 75k from MSRP of 138k
Dozens of dozens, maybe!
@@Derpy1969 and they are dead again www.wardsauto.com/alternative-propulsion/karma-auto-accelerates-start-demons-surface
At that price point, why buy this when I can buy a taycan? They need to lower it to model s level to be competitive
The original design looked way better, but it's still nice, and probably more useable. Glad someone saved this beauty.
Tesla should have saved it imo
@@PANTYEATR1 Nah, Tesla and Fisker had an issue with each other...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrik_Fisker#Tesla_Motors_v._Fisker_Coachbuild_(2008)
The backseats are still very crampt in the original
Current design looks better, actually
I think the new design looks miles better
Karma Revero: For the man who wanted an Aston Martin but had a Toyota Prius as his first car.
PERFECT
leonardo decapitato owned a prius lmao
The grille went from a dopey mustache to a dopey bucktooth.
What did you expecet it was funded by the Chinese 🤣
@@abdoyasine2275 I can't tell if that's a racial joke, but either way it's hilarious
@@TrinidadJamesWoods china isn't a race
@@abdoyasine2275 yeah they made the car less elegant. The Fisker had that unique look that a Californian designer or an edgy designer would make. With the glass bits and the open pore wood. The wood now looks very tachy and early 2000's. They removed the rear chrome speakers that made the noise while driving on electric and that cool stache, they just made a more mainstream luxury car. Cool that they kept the overall design but I miss the little quirks that were unique to the car and made me like Fisker
@@davidmeskhi8446
Chinese = asian.
Asian = race.
It's the same price as the Taycan....
Yes this car doesn't make sense
1. it's a hybrid, Taycan is full electric
2. it's 20 grand cheaper though...
3. point still stands, at 130 grand it has laughable horsepower, cramped rear seats and terrible trunk capacity, Taycan is a much better value at 150k
@@neoqueto the Taycan people are actually buying is 180-200k, not the base model. This doesn't have many options, good and bad. I'm just glad they got rid of a buncha nonsense from the Fisker days. Let's see if it catches on!
@@topestcompilations6526 Drako GTE: Allow me to introduce myself
Sorry but that launch sounded horrendous....
The old design with the new interior would awesome
I miss the old grill. The old one was prettier
Looks kinda like they tried to copy Tesla on the grill part.
I agree
@@jeffyjeff6916 Well, it was bought by chinese commies. What did you expect? lol
something better.
The old design grill caused overheating, they had to change it
That infotainment looks really great, smoooothe animations wow
Original fisker's infotianment was plain painful.
Operates like a tab or an ipad would. Pretty neat.
By far one of the best I’ve ever seen. I was extremely impressed based on that alone!
Don't think I can watch this review since it didn't start out with "THHHHIIIIIIISSSSS...."
Chris M and too much ass kissing
Went into bankruptcy 2012 out of bankruptcy 2019 now going back into bankruptcy in 2020 due to COVID-19.
ccwright24 also the fact that it’s an overpriced hybrid
Why not make it fully electric already.....
Rena's World a shitbag company called drako did that and they call it the GTE. But it costs over a million and they can’t be trusted.
because global warming & being green is total b/s,,we have oil for the next 1000 yrs,at least,,plus,the guy that owns all the oil,,will stop you..so long as theres oil & money,your fkt..its all a big scam..
@@phantomwalker8251 Nice joke.
It’s pretty expensive to make an electric car. Without loans and investments, it’ll cost a lot more
@@tamaristreeter5633 the car is already over 100k... you could buy two model 3's which are far superior than the Karma's Prius technology 😂😭
8 years later and $25k more expensive it’s still not full electric. How can they be so daft?!?!
Unless you have access to Tesla's supercharger network extend range Ev's are definitely the way to go for convince.
nothing to do with supercharger network as DC fast charging for non teslas is plentyful nowadays. the issue is that the car is INCREDIBLY ineffcient. It gets around half of the kms a Tesla does, so it is completely useless.
@@kingprone7846umm watch rich rebuilds video on this that is a myth, maybe in built up cities that is true but not really anywhere else
@@elliottvader2377 outside america theres css chargers everywhere. in fact, the nearest supercharger is 1400km away from me, but i got a css every 200km until the next supercharger.
@@kingprone7846 well fuck, but also "every country is america$
Wtf did they do to the grille? The new design is extremely boring.
Fallen World 💯% agree, the only part that looks better is the interior.
Just Got here From Doug's Review on the Fisker.
Same here LoL
Thiiiisssssss!!!
@@alejandrososa3202 ...is the Fisker Karma
7:43 that didn't sound too good.
It is only a 3 cylinder. Maybe it is efficient but for the correct sound it should have a 6 cylinder.
Michael Myers is this why it sounded like it stalled?
@@vduval22 do you mean this staggering sound? I believe that's just because of the grip control. That has nothing to do with the number of cylinders (which would have an effect on the sound of the engine).
Michael Myers at first I thought its was the tires but the sound repeats more than once. 🤷🏾♂️I’m no expert so you maybe right.
@@vduval22 yeah, that is just the tires struggling for traction since the tarmac is wet, the sound repeats, because the traction control keeps enabling and disabling whenever the tires lose traction
$150K? Best of luck to you on that.
Wait... slower than the model 3 performance, but 3x the cost? I’ll pass. They need to price it more competitively, $70k-80k is more reasonable.
Turbocharged Dude they are not focused on performance, they are more focused on luxury and efficiency, and I think this thing is way more luxurious than the model s and probably just as efficient
@@Kristian_Raices_ so is a Porsche Taycan Turbo
@@Kristian_Raices_ luxury?? It doesn't hold a candle to the Taycan
@@Kristian_Raices_ so a taycan?
Kristian Raices
5:43 clearly shows how efficient that is @ 492 wh/mi
Model s is around 300wh/mi ( my model 3 is around 220 wh/mi)
More luxurious? Could be
But it has a very poor use of space, it’s longer than a model s yet it’s a barely 4 seater ( try to sit an average size adult in back seat) it has no frunk and the trunk barely has any space
I’m sure it has its fans but there is a reason why you see so many Karmas on the street vs teslas
So went from chevy volt to a BMW i3 ?
the original just looks timeless
$150k for 4.5sec Sprint? 😑
150k!? Top of the line model S is 113k
Your getting better quality. Instead of tesla's having problems, never will you really run into a problem like the tesla's. And it's also interior quality too.
@@dant-rex1727 0-60 speed in a Model S is twice what this Revero manages to put out. Sorry, Tesla interior could use an update but for $150k people demand performance (0-60 in 3 seconds or less, these days).
@@dzerres Most luxury vehicles don't put out that much horsepower or punch anyway
@@dant-rex1727 You are talking about Tesla having problems? As far as I'm concerned, Tesla has an amazing market share and is selling cars like hot cakes while this car was sold unsuccessfully for one model year and it doesn't look that great for it's second time around.
@@dant-rex1727 I disagree. Almost all high end luxury vehicles pack major power, but they just dont make it obvious to the drivers or passengers. The problem with the Karama is there is something called the porsche taycan. There is no way the karma can compete with the service centers of tesla or porsche but it cant beat their power figures either. And on luxury the porsche will smash this into the ground. The karma has put itself in a inbetweeny weenie land where it loses at category.
“Door outers,” “haul this thing down,” “really beautiful [infotainment] graphics”....these are not things I usually hear in typical car reviews.
Doug should review this model too
when John reviewed the Tesla's (new company, few panel gaps issues, few service center): john wasn't impressed and critical. Karma Revero (panel gaps, less impressive perf, inside, no reliabilty..): he's very impressed and only good word about it.
I just don't get it.
nothing more than an ad for Karma.
I would look at it like this: nothing Tesla does is really that surprising anymore. When you are considered "No.1" or the first to do something (whether it was done well or not), you end up having to earn adulation, cheers and kudos, rather than being showered in it. Besides Tesla has not released anything utterly revolutionary since the Model S. Even the X, 3, and Y are just "more of the same but different". Maybe when the Tesla truck rolls out and it is not "the F-650 competitor trying to aim for F-150 buyers" monstrosity being claimed we might get some real news out of Tesla.
Yeah, I'm sure the Roadster 2.0 will be awesome, until you hit a curve. assuming that can foot the bill for a sports car right now.
So now you have a car, that was DEAD in the market. The company died. We had word of new investors. But we expected nothing. Much like we are STILL waiting for TVR to make its comeback. But Karma (the Karma?) is back, straightened up, refreshed, and radically better than the car it replaces. THAT is exciting. It is almost a surprise. What is surprising though is that it seems to be really that good.
Oh, you really have not been watching Autoline much. John and Autoline in general have had many good words about Tesla. They just parse that with a dose of fair and balanced (Not Faux news style but the real stuff) and not the "100% good news all the time everything" noise you seem to want.
Tesla doesnt spend money on marketing?
money talks maybe
Too true.. when so much brains, money and time goes to product developement, it does truly speak for itself!!
Looks great, they'll sell one. There's a brand new baby blue one (2018) sitting in Fort Myers FL airport (RSW) and they can't even get $99 K for it and its loaded.
did they fix the back seats yet?
Wow, 50 miles.
Jeff J I’m ALSO impressed!
I keep expecting him say, "It's free real estate!" at any point.
I'll pick taycan anyday over it.
This car is for boomers
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Next car: the revero fisker.
Beautiful car. The engine sound ruins the experience; 3 cylinder lawn mower.
the car ruined itself by existing
If my car sounded like that during launch, I'd scrap it immediately.
I can't believe you didn't show the back seats at all!
it's cause they're shit
Pretty cool now back in the days felt I was driving a overpriced tank .looks almost like a new car with a few upgrades
I own 75d . Actually i quite interested by new revero.
So, you’re telling me that the range in this, is LOWER than on a much cheaper Model S? Why again would I get this?
Tom Tom this is a hybrid, not an electric car. Although I would say the powertrain is shit anyway.
Narek which makes it even worse, doesn’t it? How can a electric/ conventional combination have less range than a fully electric Tesla? Sure, you can hit the gas station and be on your merry way in minutes, but still.
Roadtrip USA I love ICE but I would choose any Tesla instead of Karma. It is a bad car.
Smart, getting an older gentleman to review a tech car. Talks about a fancy screen that's so slow that watching him look through it on my phone pisses me off with the amount of lag. What is that, like 15fps?
The touch screen looks great! Love how it is integrated in the dash
This car is gorgeous I really wanted a fisker when they first came out but there was a lot going on with them. The original design looked a lot better. I’m a bit disappointed they removed the speakers in the rear bumper of the car, 1. Because they where sexy 2. It was very well thought out and clever. I feel like there is a lot going on with the infotainment system and I think it’s a little to excessive. I also miss the different color on the roof of the fisker that nobody really knew what they where. But they looked like solar panels and that was pretty bad a**. This car is gorgeous, after all when fisker started Tesla sued them for stealing their design, it was probably because Tesla was intimidated.
On important change, they routed the exhaust to the rear instead of where it was by the driver door. Whoever originally thought having it there didn't think it through!
Love that Blackberry software! It was smart of them to update to QNX for their different modules.
Excellent reboot. It was a gorgeous shape to begin with but they tuned it nicely.
Always been a big fan of the original Fisher Karma and the Revero is stunning too. Love the UI upgrades.
It's an over-priced Chevy Volt. Why would anyone spend $150k for this over a top-end Model S is beyond me.
Hmmm no sunroof. Not for me? Still can’t figure out why it’s so expensive.
I owned a Fisker Karma. A beattiful car and 160000 km. Nevers problems ! I loved the car more then my Lamborghini! Really! Love from the Netherlands.
One of the best looking sedan in my opinion
this is one tech savvy old dude
You'd think that with all the changes they made, one of them would be that silly blue dot logo. That's one of the least distinctive logos ever invented. Even Target's logo is more distinctive.
I'm not sure I like the new grille any better than the old one. The old one reminded me of an Aston Martin grille, the new one brings to mind the original Tesla Model S grille. C'mon guys, be more original!
Fun fact about the logo is that each Revero's badge on the back is individually painted by hand (so each is slightly unique) by an artist in hawaii and the badge is signed on the back.
Man I get the original grille was polarizing but aping the grille off the old Tesla isn't a great solution.
im waiting for "THIS"
I saw a Fisher Karmer on the road once in my life....also remember that MacMiller episode when he bought one and it died on the drive home from the showroom
So pretty much a pretty BMW i3
Brian i8*
@@AMR15H no, i3
How’s this car prettier than an i8
@@j.m237 i8 is just... Bad.
They drop like a rock right off the showroom floor.
The exhaust still intoxicates you ?
Has it’s own radio station... take my money!
The grill made the front end, without it you lose all of it's impact. 🤦🏽 edit: spelling/grammer
The previous front end was much uglier
JackStrait Even if it was ugly (I liked it btw) at least it stood out now it just looks like a poor man's Tesla front end which is kinda ironic
@@AIBustos True. Copying Tesla isn't a very creative move
The interior and infotainment really has been updated very well. Did not expect that.
One of the smoothest infotainments i have seen on a car
They didn’t buy Fisker. They bought the design and the company ASSETS. There is a difference there. The company making this new version of the Karma is not Fisker. Fisker started a new company in 2016 in the US. That is why you still see new concepts from Fisker
A nice update to an already beautiful car. Previous model had its flaws. This one looks better put together. Let's hope for the best
Dude there was so much wheel spin at the end lol
This looks like one of the best infotainment in the game.. Woow
Wanted this car ever since I saw it on display in the middle of the mall like 4 years ago..looked so different from other cars and it caught my eye
2020 Ford F-150 XL 5.0L V8 SuperCrew: curb weight: 5,000 pounds
2020 karma revero gt: Curb weight: 5,043 lbs
"1000 lbs of tourqe. That's what you need in a heavy sedan like this" lol
That Maserati Model S looks pretty nice.
What the car is selling at the price point is EXTREME exclusivity. These are produced in VERY low numbers and if one was to buy it one would be one of the only ones in their city with it. So you are paying for that experience of driving something that has very bold concept car-like styling that a) no one has and b) no one knows what it is and then therefore c) it becomes a very interesting talking point, like a piece of art
Nice video John but I felt like it was kind of an infomercial more than a "review" there has to be faults with the car as well, it's almost a 10 year platform. Idk just felt a little bias
You should really thank Doug for bringing you the views 😊
The Fisker Karma is the original car and much pretty lines. The Revero is a replica. Long life Henrick Fisker, my real hero!
The new design is amazing, only that front grille looks literally odd.
THANK YOU FOR THIS REVIEW
THANK YOU FOR TALKING NORMAL
THANK YOU FOR SIMPLY STATING FACTS
I tried to watch other videos but those guys don't talk normal or are trying to act "cool"
AGAIN THANK YOU!
Its a beautiful car. Id take it over a Model S p100d any day
Inspector Clouseau will be mad about the mustache going away
That launch sounded absolutely awful...
Yes, akin to a toy car with a wind-up rubber band inside.
When a maserati and a astonn have a baby...
Maybe if it was adopted...
This is really cool! But I could literally buy a taycan for same price
Or a tesla model S
Why would I buy that over a Taycan. I would not.
Sir ??? Whats about back seat??? Because the fisker karma has very small space in back
I used to like Fisker Karma, but this one, i f-ing love it!
The old front end looked 1000 times better
Definitely an improvement but there’s a lot of cons still in this vehicle, to be honest it’s just eye candy.
The 1st gen was way better looking
The infotainment/graphics setup is pretty cool. Done by a true visionary.
Shouldnt have changed the front end that was my favorite part
It will be another loser in sales...insane price.
Holyshit Doug you aged like 40 years between your two karma videos.......
Display panel and controls are amazing
Too bad sedans are out and SUVs are rage.
Still I hope it does well.
this car is beautiful exterior and interior
Cant wait til Doug Demuro reviews this car. Cant trust a car review from a guy without 2 t-shirts
It is nice to see they made a good car out of that original disaster. It looks really nice and the concept of hybrid where the gas engine is a genset is a great system. The Chevy Volt (with a V) is like that too, and the BMWs as well (optional). I wish them success.
How come you say nothing about the fact that the rear seats are useless ( if nothing has changed), no one can use them?
Who in their right mind would buy this car? They made it ugly. It has no backseat, yet it’s a huge car. Terrible design all around. No way this new company and redesign saves this mess.
I suddenly want this car
Fisker was trying to build a luxury car that the world was not read for at the time.
beautiful car. Not that many can afford it.
This car would sell well in the UK and RHD markets if it was available. Can’t quite work out why but I slightly prefer the details of the original Fisker though but either way it’s always been a beautiful design.
$150k? It’ll be $20k in 5 years