Well, everything except that dang DOG! lol. But yeah, great guest. (I just wish I were one of those people who could tune out crying babies + barking dogs)
One of my absolute favorites! So many great stories. "Lips" is an unbelievable character. They don't make 'em like that anymore. Legend!! Well done guys. Great episode. 👍🏻
Can't get enough of the U-2 and SR-71, both such amazing aircraft with so many unusual things about them. Hard to believe the U-2 is still flying today - they look so fragile. "Lips" sure was very open and amusing, especially the story about how he got his nickname! I'm off to watch some more of Brian Shul's talks, he is hilarious. Thanks for the great interviews Jello, you sure get some very interesting guests.
Also the U-2 can be used as a communication "satellite" for spec ops while getting recon pics sometimes in less time than a satellite could. And theres a lot of people who think that a satellite can just shoot off a little jet of gas and be right over target in minutes and it doesn't work like that
Exactly right on the Air Force tactical aircraft with tail hooks. I've been on a BAK-12 crew once or twice. The system is a multi-disc energy absorber designed to take a particular weight, at a particular speed and provide braking to "gently" slow the aircraft down that last 1200 feet of runway. If it catches at a wrong angle, too heavy, or too fast, it can rip the hook off. In theory, If that F16 took a carrier wire it would indeed be a controlled crash, but more likely ripping the hook off. They'd need to deploy the deck barricade system in that hypothetical situation.
I remember being at the McCelellan AFB airshow in mid 80s where a U-2 had a red star under cockpit. The reply I got when I inquired was “no comment “. But I suspected it was a failed interception by a MIG.
He actually mentions a rocks kill with a Mig. Mig tried to chase a U2 uphill, and engines flamed out / compressor stall and the pilot couldn't get them relit and crashed. U2 pilot returned and wanted his kill, "they" wouldn't give it to him cause he was never there.
Was stationed at RAF Alconbury England 90-92 and we had a Detachment of SAC (Strategic Air Command) TR-1s. They had Mustang 5.0s as chase cars for when they took off or landed. My stepdad was the Detachment's Supply Commander. Our unit offices were across the street from each other.
I've always thought that between the U-2 and the SR-71 series, that given the choice, I would have preferred to fly the U-2. This episode confirmed this! Thanks to you and your guest!👍
Two words for you about this episode Jell-O: Hell Yes!!! This is plane is amazing, so happy that you did this episode and with a pilot I’ve not heard interviewed about this plane before too!! You’re awesome buddy!
The Fighter Pilot Podcast I assume you’re talking about Joel Leville who did a U-2 episode with another channel? Also I would recommend looking for episode 109 of the Omega Tau Podcast if you’re interested in hearing more about the U-2 especially the early models, a guy named Carl LaRue was the guest on that episode and he flew the C model back in the day. OT gets more into the weeds with technical details too. Idk if you’ve heard these Jell-O or if it’s a coincidence but you’re almost never asking the same questions we hear on other podcasts about the same subjects. Of course you all cover the basics but the UCD discussion in this particular episode gave me such a better understanding of how that actually worked. Lips was amazing as a guest too, he seems like he’d be a blast to spend some time and have a few beers with. I’m also incredibly intrigued by the Gary Powers incident secrecy, I thought it was “well known” how that happened. His anecdotes about Roswell were the first time I’ve heard anyone explain and expand on why those balloons were such a secret too, usually the UFO people laugh that off but when it’s explained exactly what it’s purpose was and why it had to be secret it all makes sense.
I see why his call sign is lips. Haha it’s a glider with a big engine stuffed up it ass. His personality is so awesome imagine him going and talking to school kids “you can stand that puppy on its tail and go straight up! It’s a glider with a big engine stuffed up its ass!” The teach would be like damn
Ok....this guy was a great guest....very colourful!! 😂😂 OMG......the callsign story...... HILARIOUS!!! Jell-O.....when you were telling your E-2 story, you mentioned being a tanker pilot, so I'm assuming the Rhino? Couldn't remember if you flew them on the boat.
Would be interesting to have some episodes dedicated to some lesser known aircraft such as the notorious F7U Cutlass.......or other aircraft not considered to be very good. But, I have been fascinated by the Cutlass.........I'd love to hear you interview a Cutlass pilot or crew member. Love the podcast BTW......keep 'em coming!!
Awesome episode! I was a tanker for 4 years, I definitely don't remember anything about tube food in the NBC system or ever hearing the old timers talking about it.
@@FighterPilotPodcast I am looking forward to the century series episodes. I've read and heard about so many horror stories to develop and even fly those early aircraft. It seems like in a couple of years there wont be many people left to talk about those aircraft and their experience.
1:21:55 thats hilarious I actually love the U2 tube food (U2 Maintainer here) It's very odd but some very good flavors. Caffeinated Apple Pie is the best!
Lips was one of my IP's back in the 9th and we deployed together before he went to American. So great to hear from you! Really enjoyed the podcast. Enjoy retirement!
Best podcast of any kind ever. Total fascination. one question I would love answered, what's the height limit for the "Deuce Drivers"? As in, any of the U-2 pilots over 6' tall?
Have always been curious if the energy coming from all the equipment on board causes health issues for the pilots. Is the cockpit protected in any way? I have worked near high power antennas on high rises and there are warnings of health risks.
Yeah theyre safe from the RF, Cockpit is made safe and most sensors are directional. Although when we Pre-Flight we have to attach hoods on all the sensors so when we transmit we don't fry everyone in the hangar.
I also heard (idk if its true) but while holding a u2 on deck by hand because the deck hands would hold up the wings and the ship moving full ahead and a gusting winds and the u2 being light with big wings it almost took off without moving forward ie hovering over the deck due to the air moving so fast. That shows the speed of an aircraft carrier and the amount of lift that the U-2 has.
So what I find kinda wild is that this aircraft doesn't have In-flight refueling capability.. So,if a U-2 was to run out of fuel,it either has to find a good landing spot or the pilot will have to eject then? Not really something I'd want to have happen when there's this aircraft which is potentially carrying vital intel,but alas...
The uk 🇬🇧 and the USA 🇺🇸 brothers in arms to fight the global war on terror, to stop the tyranny of terror from entering our homes. This is why we need these machines. Good insight. Good episode. Thanks for sharing.
Jello, you asked if other countries had used the U2, well early in the programme, in the CIA days, some RAF pilots were involved. I believe they helped fly the U2s based in Turkey.
At no point could you stop the dog from barking or move it or the microphone to an area where you couldn't hear it? It's not like it was a few and far between. Cool interview otherwise.
Only erroneous matter was, it’s disappointing to hear him recycle the Mogul-was-Roswell myth. Quite what DID happen there is still a mystery, but researchers like Kevin Randle were able to track back the known flight dates/times (along with correlating them with the types of balloons with the radar reflective materials necessary to make the theory fit) and they don’t match up. Perhaps it’ll never be satisfyingly explained (or declassified), but the Project Mogul theory was long ago debunked.
@@FighterPilotPodcast No need to apologize Jell-O. Im here to blame, its my personal issue i get irritated by a factor like dog barking. Anyways thank you Vincent for all the hard work and looking forward to the next one!
@@chadwickalexanderjr1758 Count again; the dog barked incessantly and intermittently, starting around 42:17 ... I endured simply because Lips was absolutely worth the suffering to my ears. One of the best episodes, even with the irritating barks.
Criminally underrated episode for a criminally underrated channel.
This was the most wild guest to date on this show and I loved every min of it! Find more people like this guy!
Amen. Gotta love Lips!
Well, everything except that dang DOG! lol. But yeah, great guest.
(I just wish I were one of those people who could tune out crying babies + barking dogs)
I'm still listening... haven't gotten to the "callsign" portion yet. I have a theory 😂👄
Nope! Didn't see that coming! 🦍
I have learned so much about the Urine Collection Device today.
It's important to know about the UCD.
"Because he was a leader, that's why..."
Every man should live his life so that is said of him.
It's a worthy goal.
Agreed.
Amen.
This is probably my favorite episode of the entire podcast! I could listen to Lips' stories all day
Be sure to catch his return on episode 100. 😎
It's been years since I've last flown the jet, but that deedle-deedle woke me up! Nice touch!
🤩
This is bar none the most interesting interview that’s been on this channel
Well thanks, Evan, but I don't know if that's good or bad!
One of my absolute favorites! So many great stories. "Lips" is an unbelievable character. They don't make 'em like that anymore. Legend!! Well done guys. Great episode. 👍🏻
Thanks, Jacques. Agreed!
Can't get enough of the U-2 and SR-71, both such amazing aircraft with so many unusual things about them. Hard to believe the U-2 is still flying today - they look so fragile. "Lips" sure was very open and amusing, especially the story about how he got his nickname! I'm off to watch some more of Brian Shul's talks, he is hilarious. Thanks for the great interviews Jello, you sure get some very interesting guests.
Holy cow, so many interesting stories. What a shame that probably the best ones can't be told!
This might be the best interview so far. Piss story was amazing.
Consider the Nvidia RTX voice for recording, it does an amazing job at removing almost every background noise.
ruclips.net/video/uWUHkCgslNE/видео.html
Or just send the dog out into the garden...
Also the U-2 can be used as a communication "satellite" for spec ops while getting recon pics sometimes in less time than a satellite could. And theres a lot of people who think that a satellite can just shoot off a little jet of gas and be right over target in minutes and it doesn't work like that
Salute to all the U-2 pilots who fly for the freedom of our country.
Here, here.
Absolutely brilliant episode, great to hear Jello’ loosing it in the background 😂😂
Lips’ what a story teller👍👍👍
What an amazing guy. Nice to hear someone talk and not worried about being politically correct. As always an amazing interview greatwork jello
Thanks, John!
One of the best yet,
Such a great character
Love your show. Love the pg-13 commentary. Never go too PC for the one person with an issues. They don't speak for us.
Exactly right on the Air Force tactical aircraft with tail hooks. I've been on a BAK-12 crew once or twice. The system is a multi-disc energy absorber designed to take a particular weight, at a particular speed and provide braking to "gently" slow the aircraft down that last 1200 feet of runway. If it catches at a wrong angle, too heavy, or too fast, it can rip the hook off. In theory, If that F16 took a carrier wire it would indeed be a controlled crash, but more likely ripping the hook off. They'd need to deploy the deck barricade system in that hypothetical situation.
Now can you imagine the stories he has that he CAN'T tell?
Wow! What a neat man! Thank you again bringing us this incredible life story and of course the U-2 info.
I remember being at the McCelellan AFB airshow in mid 80s where a U-2 had a red star under cockpit. The reply I got when I inquired was “no comment “. But I suspected it was a failed interception by a MIG.
He actually mentions a rocks kill with a Mig. Mig tried to chase a U2 uphill, and engines flamed out / compressor stall and the pilot couldn't get them relit and crashed. U2 pilot returned and wanted his kill, "they" wouldn't give it to him cause he was never there.
This guest is amazing, such stories! Great episode Sir!
Was stationed at RAF Alconbury England 90-92 and we had a Detachment of SAC (Strategic Air Command) TR-1s. They had Mustang 5.0s as chase cars for when they took off or landed. My stepdad was the Detachment's Supply Commander. Our unit offices were across the street from each other.
Lips is a riot! So fascinating honestly one of the best ones yet. Keep up the great work!
Ain't he a scream!!!
YES! As always I am so excited to look some of these things up he's talking about!
Fascinating, charismatic guy! Love this one!
Great choice of topic - what a machine the U-2 is!
What a treat! One of the better episodes.
I've always thought that between the U-2 and the SR-71 series, that given the choice, I would have preferred to fly the U-2. This episode confirmed this! Thanks to you and your guest!👍
Not me! I'd rather go Mach 3 then fly a few knots between stalling and redline.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Understood! Fighters are my dream, but between the two recon types, Dragonlady!👍
Two words for you about this episode Jell-O: Hell Yes!!!
This is plane is amazing, so happy that you did this episode and with a pilot I’ve not heard interviewed about this plane before too!! You’re awesome buddy!
Thanks! Yep, I had another guy in mind but he recently appeared on another show so I wanted someone fresh. Lips delivered!
The Fighter Pilot Podcast I assume you’re talking about Joel Leville who did a U-2 episode with another channel?
Also I would recommend looking for episode 109 of the Omega Tau Podcast if you’re interested in hearing more about the U-2 especially the early models, a guy named Carl LaRue was the guest on that episode and he flew the C model back in the day. OT gets more into the weeds with technical details too.
Idk if you’ve heard these Jell-O or if it’s a coincidence but you’re almost never asking the same questions we hear on other podcasts about the same subjects. Of course you all cover the basics but the UCD discussion in this particular episode gave me such a better understanding of how that actually worked.
Lips was amazing as a guest too, he seems like he’d be a blast to spend some time and have a few beers with. I’m also incredibly intrigued by the Gary Powers incident secrecy, I thought it was “well known” how that happened. His anecdotes about Roswell were the first time I’ve heard anyone explain and expand on why those balloons were such a secret too, usually the UFO people laugh that off but when it’s explained exactly what it’s purpose was and why it had to be secret it all makes sense.
@@vtwinbuilder3129 Don't know Joel Leville, I was referring to Huggy.
Thanks!
I remember suggesting this topic with a former U-2/SR-71 pilot back before COVID started. I have been waiting for this. Thank you.
Hope it was worth the wait!
Same, great stuff!!!!
Best interview ever!
I didnt mind the dog. but my dog did. I had to put ear buds in. haha
He closed the door on that dog!
I see why his call sign is lips. Haha it’s a glider with a big engine stuffed up it ass. His personality is so awesome imagine him going and talking to school kids “you can stand that puppy on its tail and go straight up! It’s a glider with a big engine stuffed up its ass!” The teach would be like damn
Amazing storyteller
I can't wait to listen to this podcast. God Bless
I see your guest has the badass Biggs Darklighter mustache... nice!!!!
Best yet, freedom of speech and a laugh a minute!
Great show
Ok....this guy was a great guest....very colourful!! 😂😂
OMG......the callsign story...... HILARIOUS!!!
Jell-O.....when you were telling your E-2 story, you mentioned being a tanker pilot, so I'm assuming the Rhino? Couldn't remember if you flew them on the boat.
Yes, I flew with VFA-27 (E's) and -102 (F's) at the time.
Really interesting podcast, love the U2 and SR.. Enjoyed the star navigation, dog barking, pee story and of course the banana show 🤣
Would be interesting to have some episodes dedicated to some lesser known aircraft such as the notorious F7U Cutlass.......or other aircraft not considered to be very good. But, I have been fascinated by the Cutlass.........I'd love to hear you interview a Cutlass pilot or crew member. Love the podcast BTW......keep 'em coming!!
Awesome episode! I was a tanker for 4 years, I definitely don't remember anything about tube food in the NBC system or ever hearing the old timers talking about it.
Learn something on each show!
Just when I think they can't get any better!
Does he know that it’s on RUclips forever when he said, “This is just between you and I but...” LOL?!? Amazing guy.
Another great episode!!
Amazing that the U-2 is still uses despite all the advances in satellite and UAVs.
I hope you guys get around to the F-111.
Maybe around, oh, episode 111...
@@FighterPilotPodcast I am looking forward to the century series episodes. I've read and heard about so many horror stories to develop and even fly those early aircraft. It seems like in a couple of years there wont be many people left to talk about those aircraft and their experience.
1:21:55 thats hilarious I actually love the U2 tube food (U2 Maintainer here) It's very odd but some very good flavors. Caffeinated Apple Pie is the best!
Do a video on navy vs air force aviation, and have c.w. lemoine call sign mover join you, because he flew for both the air force and the navy
Lips was one of my IP's back in the 9th and we deployed together before he went to American. So great to hear from you! Really enjoyed the podcast. Enjoy retirement!
Best podcast of any kind ever. Total fascination. one question I would love answered, what's the height limit for the "Deuce Drivers"? As in, any of the U-2 pilots over 6' tall?
wow. Never would have guessed the U2 has a greater than 1:1 thrust to weight. Great episode!
Just think if they had added an afterburner (reheat)!
@@FighterPilotPodcast Thing would be a space shuttle
Lips needs to return!
Excellent nice work 👍👍 👍👍👍 boyz well done
As Section Chief, Metals Technology. I worked the SR-71's, U-2's, TR-1's, KC-135Q's, T-38 at Beale from 85 to 95.
#respect.
What comes to mind is Amos 5:8 and Job 9:9. Terrill TC!
That SR welcome to a new boy in a U2 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The extreme engineering peeing in a suit 😂 This is all a bit familiar to me as a technical, dry-suit diver :)
I'm so used to peeing in my wetsuit I bet I'd make a mess in a dry suit.
This has literally happened “Welp. Missed a checklist item: Forgot to connect the plumbing… was wondering why that didn’t feel right”
@@omally Doh!
LOL...what a card "Lips" is !! A real pistol!. Get him back to talk about his days on exchange, flying with the 'Swabbos" LOL
The c130 and the U-2 on a carrier are the coolest planes to hit a carrier
Bold statement, Bob! I'd agree if you'd said the most "unexpected" planes to hit a carrier...
@@FighterPilotPodcast I guess I should say coolest non carrier aircraft to land and take off successfully from a carrier. That better? Lol
@@bobthompson4319 Yes, my extreme sensitivities are now fully satisfied. 🤩
@@FighterPilotPodcast I have the same type of sensitivities when I know as much about something as you do this one.
12:00 I like the question
Have always been curious if the energy coming from all the equipment on board causes health issues for the pilots.
Is the cockpit protected in any way?
I have worked near high power antennas on high rises and there are warnings of health risks.
If it does, we won't know for decades.
Yeah theyre safe from the RF, Cockpit is made safe and most sensors are directional. Although when we Pre-Flight we have to attach hoods on all the sensors so when we transmit we don't fry everyone in the hangar.
Funny thing about the aircraft carrier launch question is the U-2 has launched from a aircraft carrier.
I also heard (idk if its true) but while holding a u2 on deck by hand because the deck hands would hold up the wings and the ship moving full ahead and a gusting winds and the u2 being light with big wings it almost took off without moving forward ie hovering over the deck due to the air moving so fast. That shows the speed of an aircraft carrier and the amount of lift that the U-2 has.
@@bobthompson4319 The wings start to fly at about 5knots!
Interview starts @19:30
After hearing about him carrying his own firearm since he'd have get out of a country himself I'd be intersted in a SERE episode!
Been trying to do one for the past year but my potential guest has been elusive. Will need to keep looking...
He never mentioned his bandit number. I have a friend that flew the U2, now he is an airline pilot.
How did this guy do 30 in USAF and the 30 in an airline? He had to go reserve by age 30 to get 30 in a airline...so he flew 10 years active.
Many pilots transition to the reserves or air national guard so that clock keeps ticking while they start at an airline.
So what I find kinda wild is that this aircraft doesn't have In-flight refueling capability..
So,if a U-2 was to run out of fuel,it either has to find a good landing spot or the pilot will have to eject then?
Not really something I'd want to have happen when there's this aircraft which is potentially carrying vital intel,but alas...
I read that they looked into adding that capability but found the aircraft had sufficient fuel to outlast the pilot already.
This guy is funny.
Something tells me that yes him and Brian are good buds, but in the past some issues have definitely arose between them lol.
The uk 🇬🇧 and the USA 🇺🇸 brothers in arms to fight the global war on terror, to stop the tyranny of terror from entering our homes. This is why we need these machines.
Good insight. Good episode. Thanks for sharing.
Jello, you asked if other countries had used the U2, well early in the programme, in the CIA days, some RAF pilots were involved. I believe they helped fly the U2s based in Turkey.
In the seventies the Philippines was a crazy place
Get some alpo for the dogs 🐕 😂
Fellow U of U grad!
Anytime the Marines a gorilla and penicillin are involved it means trouble oh my God LOL
😝
The U-2 mafia is real
Heres the link to "Bad U-2 Landings"
ruclips.net/video/nyZPJU8zmj4/видео.html
At no point could you stop the dog from barking or move it or the microphone to an area where you couldn't hear it? It's not like it was a few and far between. Cool interview otherwise.
You are correct. At no point could I do so when I was in my home and Lips was in his.
How’s my fellow American pilot doing?
Only erroneous matter was, it’s disappointing to hear him recycle the Mogul-was-Roswell myth. Quite what DID happen there is still a mystery, but researchers like Kevin Randle were able to track back the known flight dates/times (along with correlating them with the types of balloons with the radar reflective materials necessary to make the theory fit) and they don’t match up.
Perhaps it’ll never be satisfyingly explained (or declassified), but the Project Mogul theory was long ago debunked.
I've never been more annoyed by a dog barking in my life.....
U2 got their name from an Irish welfare form.
You listened all the way through the very end...?
The Fighter Pilot Podcast Always do.
Sorry but this episode irritated the hell out of me. The dog ruined it and its the first one i turned off....
I understand and apologize. Maybe some day when we're as big as Joe Rogan we can afford a fancy studio. 😅
@@FighterPilotPodcast No need to apologize Jell-O. Im here to blame, its my personal issue i get irritated by a factor like dog barking. Anyways thank you Vincent for all the hard work and looking forward to the next one!
Well you missed a great episode then. The dog only barked like maybe twice.
@@FighterPilotPodcast His loss.
@@chadwickalexanderjr1758 Count again; the dog barked incessantly and intermittently, starting around 42:17 ... I endured simply because Lips was absolutely worth the suffering to my ears. One of the best episodes, even with the irritating barks.