6 Hours of Meltdowns: Sneako, Islam, Judaism, Catholicism, Zealots & Open Debate -Jay Dyer
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
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I caught most of this live, but relistening. Best example of not casting pearls to the swine and not taking one step back. Not one. Don't compromise with the devil. Dyer fans are rejoicing tonight. There's been so many of these, but I feel like this one is epic. Jay is just on a whole different level now stupidity can't touch. He's already been there, but this is the nails in the coffin, so to speak. This dude doesn't entertain any nonsense. Been that way a long time, but I think this one was especially definitive. Thank you, Jay! I inquired around 2015 when there was nothing online to help me. You were one of very few and helping my family convert in 2017. Best thing we ever did. Many years.
I'm only wondering what the next tier version of, " putting you're metaphysical cart before your epistemic camel could be. Well?😅
I just dropped my wife off at her boyfriend’s house and I’m going to listen to this while I do his laundry and I’m going to enjoy every time Jay gets owned like he usually does. Ever since Jay Dyer lost to Dillahunty it’s been wild watching his descent into conspiracy and science denial. Welp, I got to go, my wife just texted me and told me her boyfriend needs a beer and I can’t leave him waiting.
Based
Bros getting cucked 💀
😂
Reading this felt like an acid trip.
😂😂
I grew up in the Baptist Church. I thought Jay was Catholic when i heard one of his debates too. I'd been watching his geo politics stuff for months. When i heard him debate a Protestant i commented "these Catholics think they know everything!"
My email blew up with his followers commenting that he was Orthodox. First time in 45 years ON EARTH I'd heard of Orthodoxy! Thankful for Jays followers. Starting catechesis soon!
Because they have diminishing numbers. They have no influence in the world that they don't even evangelize either. In South America no one has even heard of them. Awesome job orthodox. Keeping the church alive 110% as commanded
Glory to God!
I called in briefly for this one, and it was nice talking with you Jay (the guy who recommended the book 'Submission' to you). To everyone else - the evening was an absolute parade of insanity. Jay was basically solo-managing a mental hospital for 6 hours. I don't know where you find the willpower for this, but God bless you.
"So here in the Quran it says..."
"Where does it say that?"
"So it says..."
"Where? Give me the verse."
"So it clearly says the Bible is corrupted."
Assert. Ignore. Assert. Ignore. Assert. Ignore. I just can't with these people.
Those Muslims need to stop axing quextions and start throwing down some slam poetry
To be fair, I think it might be a bit far to attack people for speaking in ebonics. They know how to spell the words, it’s just that they pronounce the sounds in a different way.
@@FangedLion Just pronounce them right. Why is that so much to axe?
@FangedLion You’d be surprised at how many can’t spell simple words
@@FangedLion n's are barely sentient
@@jessecurle716 Because it’s a different dialect. It’d be like asking a Cantonese speaker, why don’t you speak correctly like the Mandarin speakers? None of the dialects are necessarily the correct one, though some may hold more social prestige than others.
I'm not tryna be mean™ but the fact that the Muslim callers are consistently the worst callers, on any stream, is probably the strongest argument against Islam.
You forgot the “to you” lol
Facts🤣
😂😂
For me it was always the "don't worry about your sins, you can't control it, it's pre determined by Allah" and the "Allah is THE best of deceivers", those 2 make it clear as day: Allah = the enemy of our souls.
@@Docwellto me too so…
Mfw codex sinaticus website debunks your religion
The woman callers never disappoint 😂😂😂
Neither does your pick me behavior
@@mauzer271 calling a woman who’s been married for well over a decade “pick me” is the dumbest low IQ move 😂😂😂
A lot of Muslimahs trying to defend Islam today.
I noticed that, maybe because sneako with in the description?
Ever since the war started pro-palestine accounts are everywhere. As are pro-nazi accounts, for some reason.
@@andrewpirr He should put him in the description more often.
“OH SHIT! AN ARTICLE??!?!??😵💫”
That took me out 🤣🤦🏿♂️🤌🏿man’s been studying comparative religion for 20 years and devolves into sperging not even one minute into the discussion 🤣
When he said Santos bonacci could teach Jay a thing or two I almost died. That dude is a total whack job 😅😅😅😅
@@slowboywhiteboardv4 probably the highlight of the entire stream, although it’s REALLY hard to decide 🤣
@@slowboywhiteboardv4 3:51:20
The Trad Cat asks you for a reason to reject Catholicism. You give him an example from two dogmatic Roman Catholic documents. The ad hoc back paddling begins…ad nauseum…
@@darningneedle5853Stay deceived then. if you’re so blind that you think a “Vicar“ of Christ could legitimately claim that the Jews, Muslims, and Christians are worshiping the same God… You’re delusional. It’s that simple.
"Imagine what you would feel like if you didn't eat breakfast this morning." Muslims: ⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️😡
Brother, breakfast is corrupted.
We must confirm what was truly for breakfast by eating dinner.
Exactly what I was thinking 😂
@@bigol9223 But to confirm what we ate for dinner, we must remember what we ate for breakfast.
@@TheActualCorrectOpinionBut only the breakfast that is consistent with dinner is what we ate
@@darthsyphilis8528 we must filter through our breakfast
Please add "Sneako" to every title of every live thing you do from now on
Your comment is corrupted. All the scholars agree.
@@jessecurle716 actually hus comment was abrogated
@@jessecurle716 It was originally good, and then he edited the comment
Alhamdulijay
@@TheActualCorrectOpinionHorrible argumentation
Dude I’ve had a long day. “I don’t care” 😂😂😂
Islamic apologetics hinge on a single assertion: ("Bible corrupt!!!!").
A WHOLE ARTICLE
Dude, Slowboi Sunday leading into Slowboi Summer had me cracking up. These open forums are great!
I just want to thank you for these streams. I started watching this channel with strong papal trad cat positions out of curiosity and for apologetic purposes but now only 4 or so months later I’m an Orthodox inquieror who attends Divine Liturgy every Sunday. It’s almost comedic to look back on how much my views have flipped. Glory to God!
Nearly 6 hours. Is that a record?
You've set a new record with this one!!!
“iT’s To CoMpLeX” bro my 18 year brother who doesn’t care about religion at all understands what the document says😂 and that guy is a PhD!
Anytime a Protestant says “ONE MEDIATOR, NO SAINTS HURR DURR” just stop them and ask them if they know what a mediator and an intercessor are and if they know the difference
3:57:20 MUH PAPACY, MUH KINGDOM OF JERUSALEM. DEUS VULT!!!
*Francis prays in a synagogue and calls them the big brother of Christianity*
How do Catholics keep coping like this when their own pope is their worst enemy?
Also why is it so hard to comment on youtube these days? I'm not trying to be edgy and I cut back on the swearing but still have to edit this comment like a hundred times so that it is visible.
I was looking for the time stap for this. 😂😂
typical catholic attitude when their arguments fail
@@sincerehypocrite1402 fr I've posted the most polite, proper, inoffensive comments and they get deleted 15 times before I've butchered it up enough to make youtube accept it, by then it's not even possible to communicate what I was trying to say.
@@bigol9223so we can't even debate in the comments without the comments being deleted by RUclips bots .and because you see it's offensive to debate and make long comments with critiques
Here before the popesplainers cope in chat
Can't wait for the "Submit to Rome" spam they like to put everywhere.
@@serbo-bulgarianorthobro "Pope cope on isle 4"
All the Muslims from Dearbornistan are calling in on this stream
52:30 open forum start
The last part with the RC PHD (??) was absolutely fire!!!
Another top tier stream 💯
4:41:09 how can they not understand how absurd the statement:
“confirm my book with your book , without using your book”
Just straight tarded from these people
"This tradition and teaching and belief of the Orthodox Church from the beginning, which the Lord gave, the apostles preached and the church fathers preserved. Because the Church is founded on it, and he who falls away from it cannot be, nor can he be called a Christian"
~Saint Athanasius the Great
2:52:46 “thanks grandma” is the fucking funniest part of this entire stream. Those two words had me literally laughing out loud.
I almost died 💀
Was the quran corrupt?
“I have no idea.”
Hypothetically speaking, I can not juggle lol
Rivers of blood
That "PhD" Roman Catholic was also scary. The worst thing about my time writing mine was the sinking feeling that the academy has fallen.
You need to always put Sneako & Islam in the title no matter what (and it would be EVEN BETTER if it was held on Tiktok).
Not sure what happened lately but these are getting spicier and spicier. Keep up the great work
Jay out here doing power shifts 🕓 🕤 💪🏻
starts at 6:20
Epic stream. I thoroughly enjoyed this one. ☦️
Jay dude I’ve been sleeping on you! Finally checked out the channel and man it’s my favorite!!!!
What a wild stream
"We accept the first version of the bible.
You are christians, you must have it,
I dont have that information."
Astounding.
1:53:45
Muslim objections to Christianity are shockingly similar to Protestant objections to Christianity
Muslim: these are manmade after Constantine notoriously invented the Bible
Protestant: These are "traditions of men" from when Constantine notoriously invented Catholicism
Bc they borrow from Prot sites
@@JayDyer Islam is protestantism with flying carpets
😂😂😂😂😂😂@@iakov1906
damn HE MEAN
53:00 - eastern catholic liturgical traditions
55:00 - geopolitical analysis
1:16:20 - islam-christianity geopolitics
1:23:52 - islam-christianity geopolitics again
1:30:40 - islam-christianity geopolitics again
1:33:40 - Muslim: on nuances of sharia law
+1:43:50 Jay schools muslim on how Allah is not a Father + Jesus's divinity
1:56:15 - muslim sophist: textual criticism
1:59:50 - oi m8 islams gotta go
2:03:45 - Muslim sophist: the Quran says Bible is corrupt tu quoque
2:08:05 - politics in america israel
2:08:50 - Muslim: 7th c. muslim dilemna
2:18:18 - bruh
2:20:25 - mass islam immagration in europe
2:22:50 - feisty Prot sophist: debates on mary & saints
2:29:31 - what's issue with immaculate conception?
2:30:25 - Muslima: 7th c. muslim dilemna
2:33:44 - Muslima whiteknight
2:35:23 - name random people
2:36:50 - Jay's comment on Surah 3 71, + 2:39:20 Surah 3 78
2:38:43 - argument regarding council of florence: 'if florence was accepted, Constantinople would not have fallen and there would be a unity within Christendom'
2:40:36 - alliance with islam impossible
2:41:55 - alliance with islam impossible 2:44:12 any man does not confess Jesus Christ is the Son of God in the flesh, they are antichrist.
2:45:20 - Muslima: who are friends of Christianity?
2:46:25 - drunk Muslim revert: 7th ct. muslim dilemna
2:51:10 - drunk wine mom: why are you doing hypotheticals? 2:52:22 how do you know the Bible is not corrupted?
2:53:28 - gnostic
2:55:40 - new content creator
2:57:10 - humanity of Christ
2:58:45 - yea but islam is unique
3:00:28 - dyerpilled
3:02:33 - even the Quran study bible admits the Torah itself was not corrupted
3:03:00 - book called 'submission' about islamic takeover of france
3:05:58 - hadith 5:6:86 Al-Bhukari camel piss
3:07:23 - hadith on satans farts
3:07:55 - hadith on Jesus coming back to destroy all the pigs is from Isa 66:17
3:10:37 - the 7th c. muslim hypotheitcal dilemna summarized + surah 3 78
3:13:30 - Muslima: 'why don't you debate top scholars?!'
3:16:07 - islamic contradictions & ignorance, reusing SDA/JW website arguments
3:20:00 - nostra aetate V2 affirming judaism's theology that God is incorporeal
3:24:56 - EO view of passive vs active euthanasia (ft FDA)
3:27:55 - does natural theology posit man can reach God without the need of God?
2:28:35 - 'conservative muslims'
3:20:25 - christian-islam alliance + error of the zealots view to use Jesus for political motivations
3:33:47 - even if we concede torrah corruption, the DSS show it's relatively unchanged
if Allah is Jesus's is God and Allah has no Sons and Jesus says He is the Son of God multiple times in the Gospels, then Jesus's God is not Allah
3:36:18 - salty adam green fan embarrasses himself, personal incredulity fallacy
3:41:54 - celebrities & islam
3:43:20 - baphomet-muhammad etymology connection
3:44:44 - salty adam green fan returns
3:46:16 - dispensationalism vs EO interpretation of Rom 11 (future conversion of Jews)
3:49:00 - boomer pseudo-intellectual panpsychist wants to debate Jay
3:57:30 - RC: debate on classical foundationalist epistemology + natural theology defined
+ A side point Jay makes is that using a philosophers arguments does not make you adopt all of their beliefs lol
4:07:30 - faith alone guy: fart hadith
4:08:28 - do you agree talmud is a documented debate between rabbis? why connect all of judaism against one rabbi's debate?
4:09:52 - platonic atheist
4:11:16 - guy argues for a political pragmatic islam-christian alliance
4:16:29 - Muslima: 7th c. muslim dilemna Bible Corrupt!
4:17:50 - best way to shut down arianism
4:20:30 - islam-christianity geopolitics again
4:24:55 - Muslim salafi: allah's uncreated foot argument
4:32:30 - Muslima: attempts to answer 7th c. muslim dilemna
4:44:40 - rude Muslim
4:47:36 - Muslim: attempts to answer 7th c. muslim dilemna
4:51:50 - muslims never read the NT
4:52:08 - all diff translations of the bible
4:53:10 - RC: romans 1 and self-evidence? 4:54:10 but what about pagans like Aristotle can come up with the laws of logic w/out divine revelation then they are self-evident because anyone can figure them out on their own.
4:55:55 - RC female deaconesses
4:57:25 - how to refute soul sleep in sheol?
4:58:34 - but how would someone go about critiquing the Abrahamic faith? -> Deut 13 & 18 coherence with what came before in history.
5:02:15 - 'abrahamic faiths are an evolution' -> hebrews 1 says Jesus is the final prophet
5:05:40 - possessed salty gnostic
5:07:16 - atheist: 'how do you determine the difference between something God reveals vs someone's imagination?' + presupped
5:10:25 - if someone is born in the amazonian jungle without knowing Abrahamic religion, and dies, will he go to hell? + belief denier
5:12:48 - 'authentic injil prophesying about Muhammad?'
5:14:32 - trouble with the Trinity
5:16:00 - what is the criticism of the protestant reformation from EO perspective?
5:18:50 - how does the Trinity can solve the one/many over Tawhid? + are differences in the Energies attributable to the Essence?
5:20:24 - islam-christian alliance
5:23:35 - is sin contrary to human nature?
5:25:25 - oneness pentecostal: trinity
5:26:35 - RC: Mortalium animos debate
The Quran Blatantly admits that God told the christians and jews that the way to recognize true prophets is by whether or not they can be confirmed using prior revelation.
Quran 3:81
"And [recall, O People of the Scripture], when Allah took the covenant of the prophets, [saying], Whatever I give you of the Scripture and wisdom and then there comes to you a messenger confirming what is with you, you [must] believe in him and support him. [Allah] said, Have you acknowledged and taken upon that My commitment? They said, We have acknowledged it. He said, Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses."
Direct question asked by Jay and response.... Muslim bargaining
Bananas and trees in Muslim heaven? Dillamonkey will be right at home.
😂😂😂
Timestamps where conversation happen would be really nice.
We gotta get i-salamis out the uk broo
out of europe entirely
This stream was Amazing!
The hypothetical IQ test meme might be true 😂 it’s incredible
Keep on using the “hypothetical “ and the “ Repeat my argument”
It just does so much to expose a person intelligence and ability to use they’re brain
1:45:00 Exact Words fallacy 🥱 “When does Jesus say I am the Son of God and I am God and also my favorite flavor of ice cream is pistachio, in those exact words?”
That back hand of Pikachu was amazing. 43:45
This was non-stop entertainment from beginning to end
3:50:00 The guy who “wrote the paper” is a perfect example of how Derek mythvision and other so called channels have melt people’s brains. Absolutely hilarious. Your patience is saintly.
Little did he know Jay has written MULTIPLE articles!!!
Bro what is happening 🤣🤣 this is gold
Thanks Jay!
2:13:50 this only means that for him to be debating he would need to only speak arabic. So the other guy that was on reciting whatever verse in Quran is technicalyy wrong since he said it in english. I mean no offense muslims but you ve got some mad issues with people making logical arguments.
Where is the video he did talking about the tiny moustache man?
I love living in the middle of nowhere with my only real socialization occurring with in my parish.
Great combination of hilarious and terrifying entertainment as always.
6h carzy stream jay needs more gnomehyperborea tho
Patrick's analysis was phenomenal.
6:22 start
Someone needs to do some timestamps 😂😂😂😂
6:20 start
4:15:00 small numbers? I mean who defeated the ottomans during the balkan wars? how many times did small nations protected and pushed back invaders? Weak mentality this guy has.
I hope comment stamp guy is alright
I think about this a lot
Same
He said he’s taking a break. Pray for him
@@zachlehkyi9951 thanks for letting me know
@@zachlehkyi9951 he will be in my prayers tonight 🙏🙏🙏 he’s a beloved member of this semi-anonymous community
In terms of political outlook and theology, how do you reconcile that we should not hate any particular groups and the fact that they explicitly hate us ?
Who's helping us with timestamps? Thanks in advance 🙏🏾
3:37:15 This guy is thinking of the apostle Paul who was once Saul, but I'm not sure what his point is. It makes no difference if he didn't meet Jesus in person, he was doing as all apostles do, spreading the Gospel of Jesus.
The caller between 0:55:03 - 01:13:51 was really switched on. You should definitely have him back on to give his take on similar topics!
Edit: I just realised that was Patrick Henningsen 🤌
can you react to alex o connor vs dinesh d'souza debate?
"The Lord does not forbid heretics to be hindered, to be silenced, to cut off their insolence and to break up their conferences and gatherings, but He forbids that they be killed" Saint John Chrysostom
"Not only to take care of our own things, but also to correct and heal our sick members; this is a great sign of our faith. For he says, "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves." True love is shown not by participating in a food bank, nor by a simple greeting, nor by flattering words, but by correcting our neighbor and taking care of his interests, by correcting the sinner, by helping the one who is fallen" Saint John Chrysostom
🔥
Has there ever been a single woman on these that has actually debated? I've watched for several months and it hasnt happened yet
Epic stream
2:08:40 sounds like Bryson’s Muslim cousin
Nearly 6 hours …
He's Choq'd up!
To attract the musilms opening a stream by doing a quick debunk pf popular muslim figures like Mohammed hijab or sneako and put that in their names in the title🤲🏾🤣
"He (Paul) said that the gospel is perverted, showing that even if it is falsified a little, the whole is damaged. Just as in royal coins he who cuts even a little of what is engraved on it, makes the whole coin false; so he who overturns even the least from sound faith, destroys everything, proceeding from the beginning to the worst. So where are those who accuse us of being quarrelsome because of the dissension with the heretics? Where are they now who say that there is nothing between us and them, but that the difference was made by philarchy? Let them listen to what Paul says, that they were perverting the gospel and at the very least only innovators... But the cause of all evil is precisely this, that we are not indignant about these little ones. ...And he (Paul) did not say, if they preach the opposite or turn everything upside down, but also if they evangelize even the slightest thing different from what I preached to you, and if they even confuse something insignificant, let them be anathema" Saint John Chrysostom
PHD level RC Copeolicism
HE SAID HEBREWS 1!!!
"But the devil chose and raised up false apostles and false prophets and false teachers ... [Such] I consider only the heretics, whose words and calculations are perverted. As he who accepts the true Apostles and Prophets and Teachers accepts God, so he who accepts the false apostles and false prophets and false teachers accepts the devil" Saint Maximus the Confessor
"In this faith which God delivered to the apostles, we make neither subtraction, nor variation, nor addition. We know for a fact that whoever dares to change the divine words with sophistic tricks, he comes from his father the devil...For whatever is said contrary to the truth is a lie and certainly not the truth" Saint Gregory of Nyssa
Only God is the Father. What Christ said about calling nobody else on earth father means just that. A priest being called Father means teacher of the gospel and Christ and leading us to Him and communion with Him. Not literal father like God. If I’m not mistaken, forgive me if I was mistaken☦️
Yeah, it's more like "don't take another man as your God" rather than as your literal Father
4:49:10 - 4:49:26 🤣🤣
👑💕🙏👍
Who is the Patrick guy Jay was speaking to second?
Henningsen
@@JayDyer thanks, Jay.
2:33:42 😂
IQ isn’t directly correlated with use of and understanding hypotheticals, but abstract and conceptual thinking is.
You begin to develop abstract and conceptual thinking in teenage years.
A lot of Muslims seemingly can’t handle abstract or conceptual thinking.
You do the math.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hypotheticals are abstract forms of thinking so it is.
@@JayDyerHypothetical use and understanding are affected more by physical and environmental developmental factors than by IQ. I’m suggesting that there is potentially a physiological, psychological and developmental difference in the Muslim world that could perhaps preclude a proper grasp on hypotheticals.
The reason why I am trying to divorce IQ from development is because IQ is not an immediate indicator of developmental stage. It’s too basic.
not to brag but im pretty certain i was engaging with abstract and conceptual thinking before my teens.
5:11:18 this was the funniest dude ever lmaooo “well…science…” 🫣😂
1:45:00 Classic muslim lies: Smiling and friendly when a minority, noisy and demanding when a large minority (see England), and tyrannical when the majority.
1:56:00 Did not take long to find one of the middle type
Timestamp man we need you now more than ever.
Fo-realz mane
1:22:00 Jung's collected works were published by Bollingen. Joseph Campbell was an "editor" there, whatever that meant. It's a funny way that Campbell and Rand's lives overlap since Nabokov was also published by them. Rand was buddies with Olga Nabokov when she was a kid. Probably how she got hooked up with Cecil Demille. Did you know Rand was a fan of Ian Fleming, and Roald Dahl's future wife was the female lead in the Fountainhead movie?
Holy shit, the hypotheticals lol.
Finally making my way through this
I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again, this was one of the best streams you’ve done. Utterly unhinged. Love it when the crazies come out.
-1 SD => Islam
0 SD => Protestantism
+1 SD => Roman Catholicism
+2 SD => Orthodoxy
Prove me wrong.
What doess SD stand for?
@@toboioioioioioioioioioioio7966standard deviation
God bless Jay. Really locking in the big debates with the audience that can’t accept or understand what happened. Keep the pressure on.
All aboard the Grandma train!🚂