Why Mario and Luigi Brothership Could Disappoint

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @KingYoshi93
    @KingYoshi93 4 месяца назад +119

    I wonder if Toadsworth will finally make a return. The Mario & Luigi series kept him alive the longest.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +24

      I'd be surprised if he's not there even when he wouldn't be anywhere else he was a staple in Mario and Luigi

    • @volvoman5262
      @volvoman5262 4 месяца назад +3

      Paper Jam ​@@ThatGuyWhoGames

    • @banananYEAH
      @banananYEAH 4 месяца назад +3

      he died of old age sorry

    • @Theguywhowanders
      @Theguywhowanders 4 месяца назад

      Well toadsworth was replaced by the toad council in the movie so idk

    • @adjiadiouf1225
      @adjiadiouf1225 4 месяца назад +1

      What abt starlow

  • @blakelandry9313
    @blakelandry9313 4 месяца назад +127

    I’m not really that worried this game looks really good

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 4 месяца назад +8

      Thank you!! Finally someone saying it as it is and not buying this video creator's dumb -veity! I mean, 1st just _look_ at the game - how _can_ this be anything but the best selling M&L ever, if not outright the most loved eventually?? Nintendo aren't about to pull a Cyberpunk like this guy is prophesising lol. Hate these ''oh , l emme just paint a -ve picture for the heck of it to create Controversy & debate!1'' creators. Well done Sir. 💯👏🎬

    • @M64bros
      @M64bros 4 месяца назад +5

      Same here, I'm not worried either

    • @beyondview
      @beyondview Месяц назад +2

      ​@@netweed09exactly I don't think I can finish watching this nonsense.

  • @CreepECrawlyMan
    @CreepECrawlyMan 4 месяца назад +66

    I don't think it's even far to judge Brothership on the basis of Paper Jam; it's pretty clear that at the height of Paper Mario's period of blandness, the ridiculous mandate on Mario characters and their obsessing with simplifying RPG elements even polluted Mario and Luigi with Paper Jam...BUT I think that's a PM problem that Mario and Luigi had to unfortunately had to deal with the burden. I don't necessarily feel like it's an overall alert to M&L's future intensions. I'm frankly willing to give the new game a shot simply because it feels like Nintendo is being confident; keep in mind, this is ALSO the very first original Mario RPG that isn't a remake...and the fact that they opted for a new title AND headed a Direct with it makes me feel like they really REALLY wanted to put a little more into than usual.

    • @pointillism252
      @pointillism252 4 месяца назад +5

      You're wrong, the game I guess being "bland" is an intentional choice. The reason they didn't have original characters is because the game was focusing on paper and non paper counterparts, which meant using characters and enemies that existed in both universes, kinda locking them to the main set of Mario enemies and characters and such. To our understanding and from what can be assumed thanks to dream team coming after sticker star, the Mario and Luigi team had full creative freedom.

    • @unoriginalusername4416
      @unoriginalusername4416 4 месяца назад +3

      @@pointillism252That explains some of it, like the characters and enemies, but not the environments or changes to existing characters like Bowser’s 3 generals in the later remakes. I would guess Dream Team escaped that issue because it was just in development earlier than the company’s shift to only wanting to use existing mainline Mario stuff.

    • @pointillism252
      @pointillism252 4 месяца назад +2

      @@unoriginalusername4416 Again, I have to disagree, as a playable demo of sticker star as far back as 2010 exists, meaning it was probably in development longer or at least the same time.
      Even discounting that, the bog standard locations could be due to a lower budget because of dream team's relatively lower sales.
      As for the elite trio, the only design change is that they have bowser insignias now so I'm not sure what you're referring to.

  • @AFOOp-u8f
    @AFOOp-u8f 4 месяца назад +39

    I don’t wanna be the ultimate Nintendo glazer but I highly doubt anything about Paper Jam applies out here, especially when they have original characters and bosses/villains so while it’s probably not gonna be a masterpiece, it is gonna be quality.

    • @valeriebreidenstein8362
      @valeriebreidenstein8362 4 месяца назад +10

      Agree with you there. Also Paper Jam was the only game in the series which was like that. The other 4 and the 2 remakes (including the Bowser's minons side quests) were very well made.

    • @xanander4693
      @xanander4693 4 месяца назад +8

      Even then, Paper Jam was a solid 7/10 game. Definitely the worst of the games but still very good

  • @SophistictaedDevil
    @SophistictaedDevil 4 месяца назад +69

    Anything could be bad if you're fishing for clicks....

  • @thehamgineer5814
    @thehamgineer5814 4 месяца назад +15

    I actually do really appreciate seeing someone with a different point of view especially with all of the unfiltered hype surrounding this game. I am super hyped for Brothership and am very excited to see what direction the people working on it go in.

  • @cyusontheinternet
    @cyusontheinternet 4 месяца назад +79

    Personally, I don’t think this game is gonna be the best in the series, but I do think it’s gonna be a *damn* good game. The new artstyle is gorgeous and even M&L’s lowest lows were still at least *good* games. I mean, i’d play paper jam over sticker star/color splash any day of the week.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +12

      You are right if the 4 games were sticker star, color splash, origami or paper jame I’m choosing paper jame

    • @BowlOSoup6661
      @BowlOSoup6661 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@@ThatGuyWhoGames I love Color Splash but I'd even pick any of the Mario and Luigi games over them.
      Paper Mario hits HARD, when it's good, but when it's bad, it's pretty horrendous. But Mario and Luigi consistently hit hard every time, even if it doesn't hit as hard as something like TTYD.

    • @xavierrivera3407
      @xavierrivera3407 4 месяца назад +1

      @@BowlOSoup6661imma be frank, the Mario and Luigi games are better than ttyd.
      Paper Mario in general never had reached the highs of the Mario and Luigi series if you ask me.

    • @kevink2986
      @kevink2986 4 месяца назад

      Yeah. Paper jam over sticker star. Even though paper jam is considered to be the weakest in the series, I personally really enjoyed it.

    • @cyusontheinternet
      @cyusontheinternet 4 месяца назад +2

      @@xavierrivera3407 I’m in a really weird spot with my Mario RPG preferences
      Gameplay-wise, M&L is leagues better but also SPM is my favorite game of all time (which is arguably not even an rpg)

  • @Jissoawesome
    @Jissoawesome 4 месяца назад +25

    Dont knock it til you’ve tried it man!

  • @Powl_J
    @Powl_J 4 месяца назад +87

    They didn’t bring back Luigi’s striped socks
    Instant 0/10

    • @grillm4ster
      @grillm4ster 4 месяца назад +26

      Luigi finally got pants that actually fit him and then everyone wanted to see his ankles again lol

    • @dawndishsoap14
      @dawndishsoap14 4 месяца назад +5

      They've been gone since Dream Team

    • @Luigissocks
      @Luigissocks 4 месяца назад +5

      fr

    • @Sonikku_Za_Hejjihoggu_1991
      @Sonikku_Za_Hejjihoggu_1991 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Luigissocks
      no way.

    • @mrcoolman333
      @mrcoolman333 4 месяца назад +1

      @@LuigissocksIm a huge fan

  • @BeanieBoi-c9b
    @BeanieBoi-c9b 4 месяца назад +11

    If the trailer is peak, if it has a ton of original characters, and if the animation looks fire than the game is gonna be peak 👌🔥

  • @filosgamer
    @filosgamer 4 месяца назад +7

    watching the video for mario & luigi talk ❌
    watching the video for him and his house lore ✅

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +4

      I will single handedly destroy the housing market

  • @TupZZ-fe1gp
    @TupZZ-fe1gp 4 месяца назад +8

    6:08
    Top left is Superstar Saga (remake)
    Top right is paper jam
    Bottom left is dream team
    Bottom right is bowsers inside story (remake)

  • @OriginalUnjustifier
    @OriginalUnjustifier 4 месяца назад +11

    Honestly, the fact this game is showing that the M&L series didn't die outright with Alphadream shutting it's doors is the main reason people are so dang hyped over it. It gives us hope that maybe Nintendo is hopefully listening to what the fans actually want: A return to form instead of the bland 'approved by committee' titles we've been getting. I really hope that we get back the really creative RPG's with incredibly memorable characters and settings that BOTH series were founded on. Heck, I STILL remember some of PPTTYD's biggest moments because that game just bled heart and passion, and I haven't gotten around to the remake to refresh my memories on them.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +4

      The remake is so good, it's THE definitive edition of the game for me

  • @WaffleTacoGamer
    @WaffleTacoGamer 2 месяца назад +1

    Bro how are you not at 100k+ subs yet? I just found your channel the other day and every video you got has me genuinely invested, humored and you definitely put your all into the production and script. Loving this. Keep it up! 🔥

  • @crenoxi4155
    @crenoxi4155 4 месяца назад +5

    I think the fact that the entire Mario & Luigi series is playable on the 3ds is amazing.
    I recenetly picked up the series and the 3ds is the perfect console, Every single old game got remasterd for the 3ds, or new games directly released to ds/3ds.
    As much as I love my switch I've come to go back to the 3DS titles after some time...

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +3

      I really do wish they did a partners in time remake, I'm pretty sure it would've sold well if they followed the direction of the series instead of skipping it for partners in time

    • @valeriebreidenstein8362
      @valeriebreidenstein8362 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ThatGuyWhoGames Agree. Also PiT doesn't work on ever version of the 2DS/3DS. I can play it on my 2DS model that was still sold in march 2011, while my brother can't play the game on his 2DS which he got in May 2011.
      Also BiS remade for 3DS, even though it was already playable on every version of the 2DS/3DS is, what made the Remake bomb likely, next to it coming out so late in the life of 3DS consoles.

    • @crenoxi4155
      @crenoxi4155 4 месяца назад

      @@ThatGuyWhoGames Partners in time remake for the switch could be cool, would defenitly bring the entire Mario & Luigi Series fairly Modern with all of em beeing nativly 3ds or switch at that point

  • @السراقالمجهول
    @السراقالمجهول 4 месяца назад +12

    i mean wasnt the superstar saga remake fucking fantastic tho?

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +7

      I prefer the original, the lighting they did was sooooo good but it’s use of the dream team art style makes me not like looking at it as much, I don’t think it’s a bad style but it was overused and my least favorite out of the 4

    • @valeriebreidenstein8362
      @valeriebreidenstein8362 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@ThatGuyWhoGames Same. Also I'm a little sad that the Come On! (Battletheme) soundtrack was remade better in Paper Jam than in SSRemake.
      But what I think the game did great was the Bowser's Minions side story. Even though I play the OG SS on a gameboy emulator, I still play the Remake just for the Minon Quest and it's cool soundtrack. Captain Goomba is awesome (best of the minion squad)

  • @SpectacularMarioBros.
    @SpectacularMarioBros. 4 месяца назад +12

    This game is in good hands

  • @TheDarkDescent23
    @TheDarkDescent23 4 месяца назад +2

    Ironically, I rewatched the Mario and Luigi series video before and now it's all fresh, happy to see more Tom action in this week!!!!

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +4

      Felt appropriate I talk about this series again with a better haircut

  • @lauwezuivel
    @lauwezuivel 2 месяца назад +2

    When alphadream made paperjam nintendo had huge regulations regarding mario games. They wanted the games to be very vanilla. Alphadream was not allowed to introduce new characters or even enemies. Nintendo got their weirdness back. Look at odyssey and mario bros wonder. I am really excited for brothership. Mario and luigi will be my favorite nintendo series for ever 🎉

  • @ChloeCommentss
    @ChloeCommentss 3 месяца назад +1

    Someone recommended me your channel and I love this so far, here's a subscribe

  • @CONCONsmiz
    @CONCONsmiz 4 месяца назад

    This is my first video I’ve watched by you, can’t help but subscribe!
    My expectations are going to be way too high for Brothership. It just looks too perfect. I hope.

  • @jefferyandbob3137
    @jefferyandbob3137 4 месяца назад +1

    Honestly didnt expect the video to be this funny lol, well made!
    I will say that PJ onwards they did learn from DT's dialogue mistakes so I think that won't be an issue.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +3

      Yeah but Paper Jam had a weird Luigi hate theme always dogging on him whenever they could, something I could’ve mentioned since that’s more of quality of writing rather than quantity

    • @jefferyandbob3137
      @jefferyandbob3137 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ThatGuyWhoGames fair, I will say though that despite my issues with them, the remake side modes have a lot more heart than Paper Jam's soulless ass.
      I cant speak on if the writing is bloated or not tho since I've just watched bits of it on RUclips, since I couldnt make it through the uh... "gameplay"

  • @tyokii8224
    @tyokii8224 11 дней назад +1

    Update (no spoilers): It’s an 8 out of 10 in my book

    • @M64bros
      @M64bros 8 дней назад

      Same here

    • @brannycedeno6823
      @brannycedeno6823 2 дня назад

      Cool. I want to play it as a lifelong fan. I just dont have those sweet 60.

    • @tyokii8224
      @tyokii8224 2 дня назад

      @@brannycedeno6823 Yeah, inflation sucks😞

  • @Hiyooma
    @Hiyooma 4 месяца назад

    Wha.. What intense editing I thought you had 800k subs you certainly deserve it actual passion and effort subbed.

  • @micahfurlow2624
    @micahfurlow2624 4 месяца назад

    This channel is crminally underrated, very nice stuff my dude!

  • @Capton357
    @Capton357 4 месяца назад +1

    i bought and tried paper jam, and i never got past the opening stuff, it just felt slow and annoying, i hope this game will be better. also love your videos dude, keep up the good work!

  • @garrettgraham824
    @garrettgraham824 4 месяца назад +3

    A potential red flag i saw in the trailer was how a few of the puzzles seem to be just leaving Luigi somwhere to hit a button while Mario explores. I REALLY hope that isn't the case.

    • @garrettgraham824
      @garrettgraham824 4 месяца назад +1

      For clarity, I mean I hope a majority of the puzzles are not that. I want more puzzles that use bros. Moves!

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +4

      I also hope Luigi gets to have some moments too like in bowsers inside story after Mario was kidnapped and such, love me a good Luigi moment

    • @valeriebreidenstein8362
      @valeriebreidenstein8362 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ThatGuyWhoGamesAgree. Luigi deserves his great moments like in every other M&L game. In SS he went to get the cure for Mario's illness, in Dreamteam we were able to save all the Pi'illo and defeat Antasma because of Luigi opening up the portal to Dream World for us the access it. And Dream Luigi did have tons of heroic moments too (like all those Giga Boss fights).

  • @luci_haze
    @luci_haze 4 месяца назад

    The quality of your vids are INSANE I was genuinely surprised at your sub count ( not that it’s bad) I just thought to see like a mil or two at worst in like the double digits, cus your very funny and lowkey hella attractive

  • @BowlOSoup6661
    @BowlOSoup6661 4 месяца назад +3

    I think it's gonna beat out Bowser's Inside Story for me. I missed the cool Bros attacks from Superstar Saga where they actually used each other to attack, instead of weird items. The bros attacks in Bowser's Inside Story are fun (Snack Basket >:)) but I like the teamwork aspect of using their hammers to and jumps to help each other. And that seems to be returning.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +2

      I agree with that, it always made sense that they would attacked based on moves taught to them rather than finding puzzle pieces in the wild. I also never minded Partners in Times buying of Bros. attacks since it made coins much more valuable

    • @valeriebreidenstein8362
      @valeriebreidenstein8362 4 месяца назад +2

      Agree. It's what I also liked about Dreamteams Dream attacks, since most of them were moves the Dream Luigis used outside of battle as well.
      And it's so cool to get the real bros attacks back. (Even though it seems like the Red Shell bros attack from Dreamteam makes a return)

  • @thomaslammens4058
    @thomaslammens4058 4 месяца назад +1

    Even if this is somehow a bad game, I still love it with all my heart because it's new. I love all of them especially dreamteam and paper jam because they made my childhood.

  • @noahbanana7526
    @noahbanana7526 4 месяца назад +15

    Everything I see is about how everyone shouldn't complain because we're getting a new game but I'm still really worried that Nintendo doesn't know how to make M&L game and will completely change the feel of it and just have expressive animations. Also where is Starlow?

    • @johnmehlman5195
      @johnmehlman5195 4 месяца назад +5

      Starlow rightly died, good riddence

    • @johnmehlman5195
      @johnmehlman5195 4 месяца назад +5

      Also that complaint would be valid if the former alphadream devs wherent confirmed to be working on the game, nintendo clearly knows what they are doing

    • @noahbanana7526
      @noahbanana7526 4 месяца назад +3

      @@johnmehlman5195 Yeah but what if they order a huge change or something?
      ジェリー who maybe did some coding on partners in time cannot guarantee a good M&L game.

    • @ssg-eggunner
      @ssg-eggunner 4 месяца назад +10

      whats wrong with expressive animations?
      i thought the previous games already had it at some extent

    • @noahbanana7526
      @noahbanana7526 4 месяца назад +2

      @@ssg-eggunner I think the expressive 3D animations is great, but I prefer the expressive 2D animations from past games.

  • @tvhelo2973
    @tvhelo2973 Месяц назад

    Great video glad RUclips recommended it

  • @Zanglezanglez
    @Zanglezanglez 3 месяца назад

    Great video and Great points abount how the new mario and luigi game could turn out. I think it would be really cool if you would make a video on sonic and all star racing transformed

  • @damesofpk
    @damesofpk 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video ❤ you’re becoming one of my favorites easily.

  • @Shaadeerr
    @Shaadeerr 4 месяца назад +2

    People started talking smack about paper jam not living up to expectations and remakes not actually being good. Now we finally got a new mario and luigi game (that isn't a remake) and you want to tell us that it wont be that good? Just wait bro

  • @AzureOtsu
    @AzureOtsu 4 месяца назад +3

    scott the wozz evil twin

  • @brandonizaguirre2963
    @brandonizaguirre2963 4 месяца назад +13

    I'm not worried in the slightest 😂 As a huge fan of this series, I'm so happy we're getting a new game.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +4

      My jaw was on the floor when it was the first announcement, no matter what it’s a day one purchase from me

  • @OneOfTheHomies
    @OneOfTheHomies 4 месяца назад +2

    I'm praying Nintendo takes a hint from this game and TTYD's sales but they tend to not be smart enough for that.

  • @Esteban_Bolert
    @Esteban_Bolert 4 месяца назад

    First time seeing your videos, and i really like it! I love your speculation on things, i see brothership in a more optimistic way, since yeah, the 2 latest original games of the series we're kinda meh, this one looks promising, with this new art style but still keeping how expressive we're mario and luigi back then, and plug-based characters, it seems to be a really fun experience, keep the great work!!!

  • @EmeraldCheetah-QC
    @EmeraldCheetah-QC 4 месяца назад +1

    I could be wrong here, so correct me if I am, but isn't it possible that Alphadream's problems with low income started earlier than you're proposing? I think that they had issues with revenue BEFORE the remakes.
    1. They reused assets from Dream Team for both remakes. When comparing a remake to a whole new game with how much art needs to be created, a remake would be a lot more viable if their budget was thinner than they would have liked.
    2. They stuck with the 3DS rather than using the Switch. Learning a whole new console's mechanics takes time, and time is money when it comes to ANY company, which is something that, again, Alphadream could have been having issues with at the time. Sure they could've ported things over to the Switch, but why spend the money to do that when everything was already right there on the 3DS.
    When I think of it like this, it just makes sense why Alphadream made remakes instead of new games, it's because they LITERALLY couldn't. They still put their hat in the ring, they still tried to stay afloat with what they could do, but in the end it didn't work, and thus they had to file for bankruptcy.
    I have high hopes for Brothership, but I get the doubt some are having, because it isn't the same baseline, but as the saying goes "You never know unless you try it". That's both for myself and everyone else, it's fine if you are holding back or if you're all in, but just in case, keep your expectations on the fence, try not to lean fully to one side or the other.
    Thank you for your time, I hope you enjoyed my Ted Talk.

    • @unoriginalusername4416
      @unoriginalusername4416 4 месяца назад +1

      I saw at some point somebody said AlphaDream was way in debt even when trying to make Dream Team, and that’s why Nintendo never bought them out to secure them as a first-party developer. It makes sense considering the drastic shift in development the new system and art style required. Even just switching to 3D environments probably forced them to expand faster than they had the money to.

  • @gamingcornerpodcast
    @gamingcornerpodcast 4 месяца назад

    This video is AMAZING!! How do you ohtdo yourself everytime, Tom?!

  • @spring71-b1b
    @spring71-b1b 4 месяца назад

    Dude im so glad i found your channel. You have a really good sesne of humour. Subbed :))

  • @Legoluigi26
    @Legoluigi26 4 месяца назад +1

    The remakes addressed Dream Team's text problem by making the tutorials skippable and the writing was pretty snappy in the otherwise lame RTS side modes, so I don't think dialogue will retread Dream Team's problems.

  • @ace352
    @ace352 4 месяца назад +3

    I actually enjoyed paper jam, so even if brothership isnt as good as we think it will, i am sure at least i will enjoy it.
    Also Dream team is my favorite.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +1

      I want to love Dream Team so bad but I can't even get around to finishing it, the game gets very hard to get through for me because of the amount of exposition given to player at any given time and when I leave for long periods and try to return I get lost in my place and don't know where to go. Restarting is also VERY hard to get through with how long it takes to get the game going. I think it has amazing ideas and tried to do something new but reasons I state in the video and here are why I'm not the biggest fan personally even though I really want to be

  • @megaedge2762
    @megaedge2762 2 месяца назад

    I think it’s also worth mentioning how the game could also be amazing. The points you made don’t perfectly support how the game could be disappointing. Yes, of course it can be disappointing, but it can also be amazing. When we know so little about a game, you can’t really make a strong argument on that and it solely depends on what you believe the game will turn out to be before it releases. Have faith.

  • @Sans-Xero77
    @Sans-Xero77 Месяц назад +1

    Mario and luigi brothership will be fine it looks like a very good game and the awsome new bro moves

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  Месяц назад

      The more I see of it the more I get excited for it, i definitely made this video in a darker headspace but I also like to offer different perspectives on things, I think I need to try and be more positive towards negative reception rather then negative to positive reception going forward

  • @mr.shreddergaming1940
    @mr.shreddergaming1940 4 месяца назад +1

    Dud i just opened the Dictionary on the word Doomer and i saw your face there.

  • @muddrox887
    @muddrox887 2 месяца назад +2

    Surely there are more ways to make content other than constantly assuming the worst case scenario for games that havent even come out yet...

  • @blakeskit
    @blakeskit 4 месяца назад +2

    9:20 tf2 unusuals

  • @Polarweebqc38
    @Polarweebqc38 4 месяца назад

    Well you actually made me think so this video was good.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад

      I hope i didn't ruin any hype, I see a lot people saying I was very negative and I tried to address that because I'm also very excited for the game I just remember what the 2010's were like and how disappointing it got with each new Mario RPG release. It's my favorite genre from the Mario series so I tend to get neverous when a new one releases.

  • @Cadeypop
    @Cadeypop 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm just gonna ignore what you say and wait for the game to release

  • @Samiho
    @Samiho 4 месяца назад +15

    the lack of views is criminal 😭, there might be something wrong with this channel bc your videos aren't getting shown at all

    • @extra4542
      @extra4542 4 месяца назад +2

      Seriously his videos are punching waaay above his weight in terms of subs and views. The algorithm doin him dirty

  • @Random66860
    @Random66860 4 месяца назад +1

    things that I think can ruin the game
    1)story and plot, story and ploy seems to be very basic in this game
    2) if the characters are nerfed too much and the character's powerscaling is greatly weakened
    3) Lazily written villains, the villains of the new game seem very badly written
    (they seem to be getting weaker)

    • @miguelcrafter2997
      @miguelcrafter2997 2 месяца назад

      The power is such a big thing for me
      Like the Mario rpg remake felt so easy (except the boss rematches) to go through
      I just wish they would build in a "hard difficulty" for advanced players seeking a challange

    • @Random66860
      @Random66860 2 месяца назад

      @@miguelcrafter2997 yeah, it would be nice if the villains in the game became more difficult, but a new platform would be nice

  • @SpinyRat
    @SpinyRat 4 месяца назад +1

    kinda funny how the moment the console rpg series hit handheld everything went to shit

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Sticker Star is my least favorite game and I can talk for hours on why that is

  • @TopTierGamerMan
    @TopTierGamerMan 4 месяца назад

    "Mario and Luigi Brothership could be bad."
    *Radiance starts playing in the background*

  • @Ethan5985.
    @Ethan5985. 4 месяца назад +4

    You deserve so much more your scott the woz 2.0

    • @damesofpk
      @damesofpk 4 месяца назад +2

      He really is and really does.

    • @drdan6443
      @drdan6443 4 месяца назад +4

      topical scott the woz

    • @damesofpk
      @damesofpk 4 месяца назад

      @@drdan6443 💀

    • @TupZZ-fe1gp
      @TupZZ-fe1gp 4 месяца назад +1

      scott the woz ripoff

    • @damesofpk
      @damesofpk 4 месяца назад

      @@TupZZ-fe1gp and what kind of RUclips videos do you make? None you say? Wow....I'm shocked. 🐍

  • @barneyjuniorYT
    @barneyjuniorYT 3 месяца назад +3

    The game didnt release yet calm down lmao

  • @tomasferreira4245
    @tomasferreira4245 3 месяца назад +1

    Just your average critic-tuber posting a "Why [insert new recently announced game] could disappoint / be bad" just for the sake of making up controversy. You're basically reviewing a new game according to previous games' flaws (like they're worse than they really are...) when the trailer already disproved you. Toxic fan alert, just play the game and be happy.

  • @_Agent10
    @_Agent10 3 месяца назад

    mario and luigi finally came back with the milk

  • @sehmohambekia6005
    @sehmohambekia6005 4 месяца назад +1

    Could ypu release your super paper mario song

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +1

      I will try my best to get it out soon, I make the mistake of not preparing that for when the video releases, after listening to it I want to re mix it and make sure it sounds good for streaming but don’t worry it is coming ❤️

  • @religion15
    @religion15 4 месяца назад +1

    Presentation/Visual-Style wise, yep, it looks like the complete opposite to Paper Jam. Fix the pacing from DreamTeam and all will be fine.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +1

      I love the expressiveness of the Mario and Luigi models

  • @keeganmcfarland7507
    @keeganmcfarland7507 4 месяца назад +2

    God, I hope Mario And Luigi Brother Ship doesn't suck ass.
    The only thing I'm worried about Mario and Luigi Brother Ship is who's developing the game.
    We know that because Alpha Dream went bankrupt for reasons.
    God, I hope it's the ex-employees of Alpha Dream that's working on Mario and Luigi Brother Ship.
    Also, have you played or heard of Stellar Blade?

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +1

      I have heard of it but I have yet to play it

    • @johnmehlman5195
      @johnmehlman5195 4 месяца назад +2

      Its been confirmed that devs from the other mario and luigi games are back developing this game

    • @keeganmcfarland7507
      @keeganmcfarland7507 4 месяца назад

      @@johnmehlman5195 Thank fucking God!

  • @ssg-eggunner
    @ssg-eggunner 4 месяца назад

    6:00 im quite confused
    didnt the gba and ds games have similar styles, specially ds?

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +2

      Similar but not the exact same, the differences were noticeable enough to not see each one as the same, besides characters UI elements were also very different across each game and the soundtracks would vary in composition and sound quality, overall the series was always evolving its style until dream tread and for me that was part of its charm

  • @Cooingluigimario3894
    @Cooingluigimario3894 3 месяца назад

    Subscribed.

  • @bloemkoolendestreetgang450
    @bloemkoolendestreetgang450 2 месяца назад

    5:56 “same kinda soundtrack” you mean peak video game music? Yea they dont have to change that up in my opinion lmao

  • @superjumpbros64
    @superjumpbros64 3 месяца назад

    I hope not, I love Mario and Luigi

  • @yungsamus6662
    @yungsamus6662 4 месяца назад

    1 Superstar saga
    2 Bowser's inside Story
    3 Partners in time
    4 Dream team
    5 Paper jam

    • @xanander4693
      @xanander4693 4 месяца назад

      Switch Dream Team and Partners

  • @Bobo12300
    @Bobo12300 4 месяца назад +1

    I don't think it's far to judge the new M&L game based off the quality of the last original game in the series as it's not always indicative of the quality of the new release. I think back to HAL, the current Kirby devs that went from a well received game (planet robobot) to a poorly received game (star Allies, arguably one of the worst Kirby games in the modern era) but they were able to bounce back with The forgotten land, which is considered one of the best games in the series. I think whoever is developing the new game is able to do the same, especially considering how there's most likely a lot of new staff for this game as well. Also the fact that this game seemingly takes place in a new location with original characters, antagonists and so on a long with a new animation style gives me so much hope.

  • @RetroGumball
    @RetroGumball 4 месяца назад

    The good ending

  • @colinjackson-xn9ro
    @colinjackson-xn9ro 4 месяца назад +1

    Interesting take, while don’t agree with it, I’ll accept your opinion.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +3

      It's speculation and something I am keeping on the mind, otherwise it's a day one purchase no doubt

    • @colinjackson-xn9ro
      @colinjackson-xn9ro 4 месяца назад

      @@ThatGuyWhoGames ok cool. I think I’m saving that for my Christmas list. I am getting super Mario party jamboree in October though.

  • @liogamer7o6
    @liogamer7o6 3 месяца назад +2

    This game will NOT disappoint, I know it won’t IT WONT DISAPPOINT ITS GONNA BE GREAT

  • @cubinel
    @cubinel 18 дней назад

    ouch

  • @terrysyvertson9205
    @terrysyvertson9205 4 месяца назад

    the Japanese name of the series will eventually be changed to remove the rpg part of the name and it will move far away from being an rpg and become a puzzle platformer going forward

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +2

      i'd rather eat a brick

    • @Luxembourgish
      @Luxembourgish 4 месяца назад

      @@ThatGuyWhoGames I'd rather eat you

    • @ssg-eggunner
      @ssg-eggunner 4 месяца назад

      hol up
      source???

    • @Luxembourgish
      @Luxembourgish 4 месяца назад

      @@ThatGuyWhoGames why did you delete my comment? No sense of humor?

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +1

      @@Luxembourgish I don't deleted comments it might've got flagged

  • @katiechapman4005
    @katiechapman4005 4 месяца назад

    You lying it going to be game of the year

    • @joseurbanos.domingo6344
      @joseurbanos.domingo6344 4 месяца назад

      Relax. His just keeping his guards up and also expects it to be good (and it better be. It's been years since the last title.)

  • @ParagonXxDUCKxX
    @ParagonXxDUCKxX 4 месяца назад +2

    Lame, show some positivity. We can discuss all day why something CAN be bad or good, just try and bring some joy to the world, damn

    • @snarkycrow
      @snarkycrow 4 месяца назад

      I get where you’re coming from, but this video is coming from a place where they’ve been burnt one too many times from previous Mario RPG releases, I can relate to how they feel.
      It’s fine to be positive, but that just means this video isn’t for you then.

  • @battlelordo1432
    @battlelordo1432 4 месяца назад +1

    Wrong

  • @Parrottack
    @Parrottack 4 месяца назад

    gambling actually works lol

  • @sebastianguerrero6617
    @sebastianguerrero6617 4 месяца назад +2

    Oh joy you one of those guys who actually believes that Mario mandate nonsense and say that games origami king is not creative or fun and that ttyd is the future of the series while completely ignoring the great success of origami king sales and the fact that it has a lot of fans.....yeah no you're opinion means nothing now

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Origami King is very creative, but I think in a way it's poorly designed since battles have no reason to be done, you learn nothing from them to beat the bosses since boss fights are completely different and you gain nothing from doing the smaller normal fights, it's a turn base battle just for the sake of it when it could've been something more useful for the player. The mandate was always rumored to exist and while I don't think it happened you can't deny that it seemed like every Mario series was sticking to a style sheet, why would the Mario and Luigi series of all things strip itself of original characters?? It's been confirmed that the mandate never existed and it was a miscommunication and I should've included that in the video. However I stand by my opinions, you don't have to agree and what I'm saying is all speculation I just thought it was interesting to talk about, you're more than welcome to disagree with me I'm always happy to discuss.

    • @xanander4693
      @xanander4693 4 месяца назад

      I am indeed an Origami King fan. It’s the best paper Mario game!

  • @netweed09
    @netweed09 4 месяца назад +2

    How did you even get any likes for this?? Lol, YT. We haven't got a M&L game in donkey's years, and the one We saw just last month easily looks like the Best of them ever from that short trailer alone with arguably the best art-style ever. Whoever commissioned that was a genius!
    Yet here you are , spreading -veity and ill opinions. Game will probably outsell all the others by 3 fold too. Hah!

  • @robdogs4743
    @robdogs4743 4 месяца назад +2

    Blud at least it exists

  • @loregasmic
    @loregasmic 4 месяца назад +3

    Everything after Bowser’s Inside Story was so mid that I hope they aren’t canon and that Brothership is the one true sequel to BIS.

    • @Lando.Comics
      @Lando.Comics 4 месяца назад +3

      I'm gonna pretend like you said everything after Dream Team was mid considering that ones the best in the entire franchise

    • @valeriebreidenstein8362
      @valeriebreidenstein8362 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Lando.Comics Totally agree. Dream Team was awesome. I really liked the Dream World angle. The soundtrack was peak and by far the best in the series (next to Superstar Saga). And the Original Chracaters like the Pi'illos were nice too.

    • @xanander4693
      @xanander4693 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Lando.ComicsDream Team isn’t my favorite but I highly respect everyone who says it’s the best. That game is soooo good (just like every game in this series)

    • @Lando.Comics
      @Lando.Comics 4 месяца назад +1

      @@xanander4693 real

  • @mikeydeez21
    @mikeydeez21 3 месяца назад

    The view to like ratio makes me smile 😊 doesn’t deserve any likes

  • @KenanVonKaiser
    @KenanVonKaiser 3 месяца назад +1

    Dislike!

  • @السراقالمجهول
    @السراقالمجهول 4 месяца назад +1

    fr tho i have only 3 issues with the new game and theyre so nit picky it hurts
    1- textures look just a little too low res tho that might just be youtube compression
    2- the composer may not be yoko shimamura, if this is true then this is by default the weakest ost since she composed the entire series
    3- i hate the fucking boxart, instead of having a hand drawn 2d one like strikers and the past games they just posed the renders
    thats about it really, im really excited for this game

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад

      YOKO SHIMAMURA MIGHT NOT RETURN WHAT

    • @السراقالمجهول
      @السراقالمجهول 4 месяца назад

      @@ThatGuyWhoGames its not confirmed, if she didnt return that would be baffling because they got her for sparks of hope and rpg remake

    • @noahbanana7526
      @noahbanana7526 4 месяца назад

      Number 3 disgusted me so much when i learned about it and I almost threw up.

    • @Esteban_Bolert
      @Esteban_Bolert 4 месяца назад +2

      I kinda get your worries on point 2, but even if yoko it's not there to compose the ost, i think it's kinda shitty to say that "it will be the weakest just because certain person will not compose for this one" not allowing this hipotetically new composer a chance, because in the trailer, the music actually sounds really good!
      In point 3...eh???....i kinda get it but it's still a really personal-pick, i actually liked the box art and it looks really nice

    • @السراقالمجهول
      @السراقالمجهول 4 месяца назад

      @@Esteban_Bolert if the first song in trailer is the main theme (title theme) then yeah thats defiantly the weakest one in the series yet, all the other ones have a very distinct melody and feel, this one just feels like cascade kingdom, i cant really remember its melody

  • @fernandolemus5965
    @fernandolemus5965 25 дней назад

    Dream team had an amazing sound track, nothing like Paper jam frfr

  • @snooginsmcgoo9698
    @snooginsmcgoo9698 3 месяца назад

    top tier bait of a video or just a really bad opinion

  • @sweepjk5258
    @sweepjk5258 3 месяца назад +1

    I think you're fishing for click creating false controversy tbh.

  • @ManFaceGuyWithNoFriend
    @ManFaceGuyWithNoFriend 4 месяца назад

    rage bait video L

  • @dannypalin9583
    @dannypalin9583 4 месяца назад +2

    The fact that some people are upset that they ditched Starlow makes me question humanity.

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Starlow was great in Inside Story but then she become a hater of luigi and that made me not want her around anymore

  • @aidanclements6918
    @aidanclements6918 4 месяца назад

    Remember everyone: Gambling actually works ☺️

  • @xanander4693
    @xanander4693 4 месяца назад +2

    Hold your horses buddy. We haven’t even seen much gameplay at all so why this pessimistic view?

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад

      Just a thought I had, and listen I hope I'm wrong

    • @xanander4693
      @xanander4693 4 месяца назад +2

      @@ThatGuyWhoGamesWell it’s stupid. No one should be making any claims about the quality of this game until it comes out. Wait and see, stop being cynical.

    • @zekmaster644
      @zekmaster644 4 месяца назад

      ​@@xanander4693he's only listing his concerns about what the game could be, which is valid since the series up till alphadream's bankruptcy ended with a whimper. He wants the game to be a success, just concerned it might go the way of paper jam. Not too cynical at all.

  • @KingYoshi93
    @KingYoshi93 4 месяца назад +1

    First! 😊

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад

      You did it. . .you won

    • @KingYoshi93
      @KingYoshi93 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ThatGuyWhoGames Thanks! I like your videos! Nice humour, and criticisms and thoughts I can agree with. :)

  • @sanher20
    @sanher20 3 месяца назад +1

    What a pointless video

  • @ExGanonMain
    @ExGanonMain 4 месяца назад

    Two words will probably make this game bad: KEVIN AFGHANI

    • @ahmedhasan4966
      @ahmedhasan4966 4 месяца назад +6

      How?

    • @ExGanonMain
      @ExGanonMain 4 месяца назад

      @@ahmedhasan4966 His voice acting for Mario and Luigi isn’t great but it’s improving. But because we’re gonna have to hear his voice from Mario and Luigi for the entire game and even the god awful Italian gibberish it will be terrible

    • @johnmehlman5195
      @johnmehlman5195 4 месяца назад +6

      ​​@@ExGanonMainthats just a you problem

    • @ThatGuyWhoGames
      @ThatGuyWhoGames  4 месяца назад +4

      I personally think he doesn’t sound different, he sounds like a young Charles and having that energy and new life was a bit over due. I will always love Charles he made these characters who they are but it’s clear the choice to step down was his decision he couldn’t record like he use to and I think the mantel was passed on to a great actor who sounds nearly identical. If you open up to them it’s not that bad at all

    • @ExGanonMain
      @ExGanonMain 4 месяца назад +1

      @@johnmehlman5195 Yeah basically

  • @lancecoleman6684
    @lancecoleman6684 3 месяца назад +1

    anything could bomb. but this is on the switch so it'll sell.