We’ve been pixel peeping at the files of the Q3 43 and the APO-SL 50 on an SL3 this afternoon. Side-by-side. All 4 of us professional fashion/beauty photographers and tech editors could not consistently tell the difference. It’s that good.
@@jacobh5817 yes it’s solid. You really need to study the images. For me I see a bit of a difference with micro contrast and slightly more sharpness but both are extremely well corrected
I have all the APO-Summicron-SLs and I shoot them a lot, personally and professionally. I compared my SL APO 35, 50, and apo-summicron-m 35mm to this 43mm and it is very hard to tell the SLs from the Q3 43mm. This 43mm lens is crazy good. The details were easier to see on the SL 35mm but that is the reference lens, the 43mm is smaller and slightly better with flare control.
Best coverage of this cam I've seen so far, kudos! Every other review is just talking about the technical aspects of the lens, but you've actually taken it out into the street to USE IT. 👏👏👏
Have a 28 for over a year, got a 43 day it came out. Took only 43 to an out of town four day event couple days later.. Soo much better for my needs. I used to crop in the 28 all the time. Sure I will miss some shots that the 28 would get but overall the 43 focal length and how this lens renders at f2.8 and below , sold the 28 last weekend. 43 only for me now
Great information! Coming from SL and M...how is the evf with the 43? The Q 28mm always felt hard to see and removed from the scene compared to an optical view finder on the M or the bigger SL3. I am wondering if that changes with the 43 focal length. Also, do you know the refresh rate and does it black out each time you take a photo?
Hi. Thanks for watching. The viewfinder is the same as the Q3 but with the 43mm while not the large magnification I was hoping for doesn’t feel so detached like the Q3 does with 28mm
Always great to hear your perspective and your passion on these Leica topics :) I was one of those who always wondered how a Q would look like with a longer focal length, since like you said I always cropped my Leica Q images, specially because of distortion. Today at launch date of the Q3 43 I picked up my piece and did a quick unboxing video for my small channel. Although it's simply a Q3 with a longer focal length and all the known Q quality, it's a bit disappointing even Leica has to cut cost by not including a charger although the Q3 43 is more expensive. I get it, since every other brand does it, but still ... You are lately on fire Bobby, keep at it! :)
@@IntrovertAmateur thanks! Yes I’m not sure about this “not including charges now”. It’s like the no plastic straws but plastic plates and cups. Odd especially for the price of these cameras
I got mine yesterday, actually one of the first few in my country. I already love it very much, complements the Q2 28 I also have. The lens is breathtakingly good! :-)
I love my Q3 28mm, but, having tested it, the focal length is actually nearer to 26mm than the nominal 28mm focal length, which is more than a bit too wide for me and, I suspect, for most users. Looking forward to getting the 43.
Again, great review Bobby! I think people have become accustomed to this focal length in recent years due to the large number of smartphones with 28mm as well as the Q. Although I've used the Q1 and Q2 over the last few years, I've never got used to this 28mm and mostly cropped my images. 35 and 50mm is still my favourite focal length with my M11. Leica is making a smart move with the Q3 43 and the APO. I will receive my Q3 43 next week and am already very excited.
which would be better ? The leica q3 43 or a hasselblad x2d with a 55mm xcd lens? Im picking up my x2d tomorrow but dont know if its was the right choice
@@btonelli that means its a good choice getting a medium format because ive got a xt3 (apsc) and a a7rV (fullframe) and now getting a medium format x2d
From playing around with RAW images from DPReview and having owned a Q3 for a while I can assure you this is even sharper and even better corrected while keeping a nice 3D pop. It’s a gem.
You made me look back into the Leica APO 50 F2 and I was amazed it's still current (was introduced in 2012). In your experience, is this APO 43 about the same as the M APO 50?
thank you for the review Bobby. was wondering if the issue with the evf was fixed? the q3 had a very minor shake of the screen in the viewfinder after you focused it. it was very minor but present in every press.
@@btonelli please see sample at the 4:15 mark here- ruclips.net/video/vr9liVTXEss/видео.htmlsi=s-b-8J-0sGzCq8j6&t=244 this thing was very present to me on every press that had me return the camera... was really hoping they fix it. thank you for your input.
It's not very wide but interestingly enough 43 mm is a good compromise. It allows you to get lovely portrait separation. It still allows you to shoot some landscapes in certain situations. You might want to take two images and stitch them together but it also gives you good macro capabilities as well and cropping ability. I'm not in the market for this type of camera but wow what a beautiful camera.
My most favorite travel camera is my Fujifilm X-H1 or X-T30 with vintage Canon FD 28mm f/2.8 lens, its similiar focal lenght to this new Leica. Slightly wider than 50mm but not too wide.
Damn now I am thinking about selling my M10-R but this one. I had a quick try today and the focal lens is what I love. I used to have a 40mm Voigtlander on my Sony and it was it - the perfect focal lens for me.
Great idea from Leica. Back to the 40mm! I nearly reach the Q feeling with my S5iix and the CL 40mm Summicron 😊for 1/3 of the price. Missing the AF of course but for sure if I really really like this focal length I might be ending ordering one Q343…
Hey Bobby, what if comparing it with X2D with 55v? I have X2D and considering getting 55v while Q3 43 released. What’s your take compare with these? Quality wise. Not mega pixel.
Fellow Italian, how do you like the skin tones when it comes to portraits? This seems like a very good lens to take the ‘Quintessential’ dual ( two person ) portraits with a little bit of background fused in. I think this is a perfect for husband wife, daddy daughter, or multiple pets in the shot camera. I’m definitely interested in the skin tones. Definitely at F 11 to 13.
@@JinsungVideo Ciao! Skin tones are nice. Leica has always done a good job with them. Just be careful on overusing vibrancy and saturation as Leica does prioritise reds and you can see those pop up if too aggressive on the dials
Yes, you hit the nail on the head. I almost always crop my 28mm Q3 images so this one is just right for me. I have it coming to me already and with the Multifunction Protector from Leica. Thanks for your reviews and I also might unsubscribe as you always cost me in one way or another, but you do it so well.
Very cool!..everything is nice as it should be based on the original Q3…but some missed opportunities for sure for a better “update” especially that bump on the price point…it could have at least implemented a built in memory like their other models…also No CAI ( Content Authenticity Initiative) support which could have been nice to have and also a bump on better AF performance..because we all know that the original Q3 isn't as efficient in the AF..lol just some little things to point out..but at the same time all these points could have made the camera even more of a worthy "upgrade" and that fact that some of these points are available, i.e built in memory, CAI..and Lecia chose not to implement them in this body is kind of disappointing..for that price bump obviously goes towards the lens nothing else ..haha
@@ldmndz4652 thanks for watching! couple thoughts on what you said. Yes I agree, internal memory would have been great. Leica should just make it this way across all their top tier cameras. The CAI to me isn’t a big deal. If I screen shot an image all that info is gone. The tech still needs some work. The AF has improved over when the first Q3 was launched. It can get better but it’s improved. The lens in itself is a big upgrade. The MTF charts show it to rival the M 35 and M 50 APO options hence why the price is slightly more.
You know i would have loved Leica if they would have release a leica Q 43. The Q3 series sport a sensor with too much mpx on it for my liking and it comes with modern video features. The focal length of 43mm pretty much is on pair with our human eyes. That is an interesting choice. Yet for the cost i can kit out my m240 with some awesome glass and yes i do realise that the comparison between Leica M & Q is a flawed one
I still have quite a few gripes with the Q3... the slow sensor that makes e-shutter almost useless, the SD-door wrapping around the tripod mount just to fit those contacts for a wireless charging gimmick accessory, the flimsy port door, ... but my main issue was the focal length. My wallet hates me right now.
I have tested my eyes and my eyes have a FoV of 16-18mm. Why is everyone saying that they only see 45-50mm though? That's super narrow. By the way, 43mm is the standard focal length for full frame because √(36mm^2+24mm^2)=43mm
Though i believe Bresson would have chosen 28mm Q3 as he would shoot it on 50 with the frames, so he is seeing outside the frame. Otherwise some of his greatest work could not be made - or would have been made coincidentally :) For me the Q3 delivers everything 28 - 35 - 50. i could take maybe some restrictions to 43mm in account if the body would be significantly smaller :)
I guess we will never know but being he used a 50mm quite extensively this seems to be the natural fit. I think if you use the 43 you will find it less restrictive than you would think. It’s actually more accurate to what we see the framing of a moment is
If i had $6k spare, I'd buy one! But as it is, I have to settle for my Nikon Zf and Voigtlander 50mm APO, which I got on the strength of your review. Prob not too far the Q3 43.
I wish Leica makes a Q camera with either a 50 or 55 f1.2 or F1.4 lens. No one is used to use a 43mm lens. A lot of us used to learned photography with just a 50mm lens.
Not a big issue as they do sell an accessory to use filters. Reality is most an owners probably don’t use filters. Those that need to can get the accessory
@@btonelli The first thing I do is put an UV filter on all my lenses to protect my investment. Not an issue with the Q, Q2 or Q3 28mm and now . . . . you need a freekin accessory!!!
I am a Canon user and I do not have any experience with the Leica system. This offer is very tempting. It is said that the Leica system is easy and simple in terms of settings and menus. Is that true? I have a strong desire to own this camera. Thank you.
Best review I don’t want to be that guy but how comparable to the Zeiss Batis 40mm on any Sony body. I feel there’s a lot of people sleeping on then Zeiss 40mm f2
I impulse bought a Q3 two months ago and now I wish I waited for this 😂 I saw a pic with a Q3 43 with a Rode Mic attached to it, do you have any info about attaching external mic? I hope one day Leica releases Q body with an L mount one day. As always great video Bobby.
It's a shame that Leica even doesn't note on the box or advertisement that you need a extra lens hood if you want to use a filter in all modes, including Macro mode. I had to find it in the small print of the manual.
@@btonelli My only significant gripe (and it's a big one) is that a single UHS-II SD card in 2024-given this camera's other capabilities-is a major oversight, IMHO. If you're travelling with this camera, and something goes haywire halfway through the day while you're out and about and the card craps out, you'll never be able to recapture those moments. Built in storage (like the M11) or even a micro-SD slot (like the Zf) are really needed now. Especially at this price point.
@@RobertFalconer1967 agree. I also think internal storage should be considered. Not sure the reasoning behind the M cameras having this and the SL and Q cameras not to
Most people that wanted a 35 or 50 q Never used a q. If they would they would have noticed that for travel 35 is many times not wide enough. 28 was and is perfect. The q was meant to be a travel companion. If you want a camera that is great for more types of photography buy an M. The q 43 will leave you wanting for more.
Hello Bobby, very informative video and thank you for your thoughts. I always wanted a Q with a 50mm lens, while 43 is even better. This will be a wonderful camera. Now I bought both the Q and Q2 and sold both again. The Q3 did not tempt me but the Q3 43 looks tempting. Still, it will be not for me. While I am not a 28mm kind of guy, the lens was not the main reason for selling the cameras, it was the form factor. While the Q is slightly smaller than most mirrorless cameras, it is still not pocketable. So if I take this camera or an M or a Nikon Zf or... I have them in a small bag. The latter 2 offer me the chance to change lenses. I recall paying just under 4000 Euros for my first Q. Yes we have had inflation since then, but 6900 Euros for a fixed lens camera with sub par AF?? I agree the sensor and the menu are both brilliant. A Nikon Zf with at 35/50 or 50/85 combo cost you half the money as does the 40 1.2 and 75 1.5 set up with Voigtländer lenses. It has the better AF and/or manual focus assist. The sensor of the Leica is amazing but if we don't pixel peep or crop the hell out of it you will not see the difference. This is no Leica bashing, just my thoughts and I am a Leica M user now for 14 years and still love the unique system , the experience and the heritage. Clearly if someone is shooting most of the time at an 40mm ish focal length, wants the Leica experience and brand and has the budget , I assume it will be an awesome camera.
Hi Mark thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts which are all valid and good assessment. There are so many good options out there that it really spoils us for choice and the cameras mentioned also have their strengths.
I was hoping for such a Q model but F2 with this size of a lens? The lens is quit large for what it is. If I take a look over to the Sony E mount and it's 35mm F1.8 or the legendary Zeiss 55mm F1.8 and having in mind, that you can build it even smaller, when it is a body with a fixed lens - I don't really get it. It's a half stop less. I'm a bit dissapointed.
Hmm you need to take in account this also has macro capabilities, APO lens with superior optics (Sorry Zeiss 55mm f1.8) it’s better than the Zeiss and it’s all in one camera is quite a feat. It’s only slightly longer than the Q3 28mm
@@btonelli Yeah APO, but the term Apochromat is used even when it’s just a less complex secundary version. The Zeiss 55 is an old lens, if they would produce a new version, things would look different. It shows what you can pack in such a small lens. It’s just a bit underwhelming, wider and brighter lenses are even more complex to build, so this 43mm is giving me a lot of questions. I think I have to try it.
@@bodythetan Leica sells an accessory to use a filter. I understand this concern but I’m guessing Leica has done their research into how many actually use filters on their W cameras and probably the ones that do are a smaller amount
I really want this camera even though I cannot afford it 😅 I already have two full-frame cameras and many lenses, so I don't need this camera but... My mind is trying to justify like, "Since I have been living in Germany for 7 years now, maybe I need to get Leica.. Non-sense... Haha...
Isn’t it better to have wider shots. You have 60mp to play with and crop in. You can always zoom in but you can’t zoom out from a shot you’ve already taken.
@@ambition2959 depends. If you like photographing people and isolating subjects 43 will give you a bit more compression snd the f2 APO is a phenomenal lens
Q3 body with M mount and a bigger eyecup- and im in.. i know i know- go SL3 one may say, but i don’t need bigger camera. I already have SL2s and GFX 100-2 and i don’t want M rangefinder- smth like Q3 with m mount will be just perfect.
Always enjoyed my Minolta Rokkor 40mm F2 lens. This might just be the end-game fixed focal length full frame mirrorless camera - if my wallet allows for it 😢
The emperor‘s new clothes. Normal vision is not 43mm or 50mm, unless your head is cemented in place and your eyes locked in one direction. Normal vision is scanning back-and-forth. Unless you’re a photographer looking through a lens, your vision is not fixed in one place. The advantage of a 28 mm Q3 is that you can compose a broader scene and crop later if it’s too wide. I dare anyone who buys the new 43 mm version of the camera to later crop out in post. Can’t happen. For those who ever use manual focus, you will find yourself limited in zone focusing because the 43 mm does not have the same depth of focus as the 28 mm. When you’re engaging in street photography, you are rarely too far (needing a longer focal length lens), you are usually too close and need a broader field of view. I know people have clamored for this, it’s just not an advantage for a street photographer, and probably not for a landscape photographer either.
When we say normal vision when we look at any particular item, subject or person etc the focal length we see at is 43mm in full frame equivalent. This is science. Of course we scan around but when we take one photo it’s at a particular focal point. This lens may not be for everyone and that’s okay. No one is saying buy it haha. Some like myself prefer this. I don’t favor 28mm. I can respect the focal length but it’s not for me. As it comes to street photography perhaps take a look at some of the veterans and see what they used. 50 and 35mm were the most common.
My point. Your 43mm is a fraction of what the eye experienced. It is a narrow slice. While that might suffice for a street portrait, it reduces the likelihood of capturing a candid momentary event on the street. And if there is a three dimensional aspect to the shot, you will have to stop down considerably to capture what a 28mm lens can render wide open. That is science. The longer the focal length the less the depth of field. The 28mm is better suited for the street. As to landscape photography, wider angles have always been the go to. Be careful what you wish for- you might just get it. Caveat Emptor.
You should really be an ‘Anchor’ for someone like CNN. You’ve got the lot. Plus I wanna buy everything you talk about. Great intro to yet another bankrupting product.
For the 35mm or 50mm APO summicron, your paying way more than the Q3 43mm APO, and that's the lens without the body. From that perspective the Q3 is a deal.
Sadly, those who asked for 35mm or 50mm Leica Q, cannot even afford this camera. I love my Original Leica Q with the Creamy, Dreamy Summilux 28mm. If I did not trade my M240 and a few lenses, I could not afford it either.
@@btonelli It is an Internet BS telling people 28mm is not good or desirable. It is so much more useful to have 28mm when traveling. I'll probably never go back to Iceland and I am so glad that I had the 28mm instead of 35 or 50. Cheers.
@@Boxer1250RTI guess depends. For me I can travel with 35 and 50 and get the shots I want. 28 doesn’t do it for me but everyone has their preferences. Cheers
Leica made a huge mistake with the 43mm. Before you had no choice but now you are start thinking of the limitations of having only one lens. And which mm is the best.
@@RouvenKasten I find it interesting how some look at this collaboration and find it less than a Leica camera completely made in Germany. I hate to break it to you but most Leica’s tech isn’t made in Germany and Portugal has a massive factory. Does that mean the cameras are less than? Not at all. It just means Leica needs partners to scale and yes they had partners even in the film camera days
@@btonelli You can see it that way, they are entitled to it. But you can expect more for the price these days. What if Leica was just about scaling? Why has the DLX8 a 700€ higher price sind the DLX7 with same tech, just a new housing. Why has the camera with the red dot become more of a status symbol than a photo tool? I don't think the prices are justified anymore.
@@pascalpro06 those images are from the standard Q3 at the beginning. If you watched the video and listened you would know this. Also text is in the image. And yes people take images for food, people, landscapes etc. if you want to be critical that’s fine but leaving a comment like this doesn’t add anything or make anything better. If anything it’s the opposite.
No, no, no, no. Our eyes see multiple focal lengths and field of views at the same. Not only that, but segments of the human race see different combinations.
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We’ve been pixel peeping at the files of the Q3 43 and the APO-SL 50 on an SL3 this afternoon. Side-by-side. All 4 of us professional fashion/beauty photographers and tech editors could not consistently tell the difference. It’s that good.
@@jacobh5817 yes it’s solid. You really need to study the images. For me I see a bit of a difference with micro contrast and slightly more sharpness but both are extremely well corrected
Ohhh ok, I have the 35/75/90 SL APO, insane optics. Crazy it’s that good
I have all the APO-Summicron-SLs and I shoot them a lot, personally and professionally. I compared my SL APO 35, 50, and apo-summicron-m 35mm to this 43mm and it is very hard to tell the SLs from the Q3 43mm. This 43mm lens is crazy good. The details were easier to see on the SL 35mm but that is the reference lens, the 43mm is smaller and slightly better with flare control.
your art story telling is what makes your videos stand out!
@@thinkpadx60 thank you 🙏 really appreciate that
Best coverage of this cam I've seen so far, kudos!
Every other review is just talking about the technical aspects of the lens, but you've actually taken it out into the street to USE IT. 👏👏👏
@@JamesABloomfield thank you! Yes that’s what my goal is for every product I review. To actually use it not just talk about it
Man this camera is so tempting. I love my 40mm focal length, and this would be the ultimate addition to the party of 40mm lens kits.
@@rockymhs agree. When you use it it’s so enjoyable
The dream 40mm camera 👏
@@Tudor_Mateescu haha yes!
Have a 28 for over a year, got a 43 day it came out. Took only 43 to an out of town four day event couple days later.. Soo much better for my needs. I used to crop in the 28 all the time. Sure I will miss some shots that the 28 would get but overall the 43 focal length and how this lens renders at f2.8 and below , sold the 28 last weekend. 43 only for me now
Congrats!
Good to see that Leica has finally discovered the success that Ricoh has with the small GR IIIx 👍
@@JessDemant with an EVF and arguably better AF and image quality haha
Absolutely brilliant selection of Photographs
@@ruff1draft thank you 🙏
Great information! Coming from SL and M...how is the evf with the 43? The Q 28mm always felt hard to see and removed from the scene compared to an optical view finder on the M or the bigger SL3. I am wondering if that changes with the 43 focal length. Also, do you know the refresh rate and does it black out each time you take a photo?
Hi. Thanks for watching. The viewfinder is the same as the Q3 but with the 43mm while not the large magnification I was hoping for doesn’t feel so detached like the Q3 does with 28mm
This is the Leica for me. I have been using the Lumix S9 with the Sigma 45 2.8. I really like what Leica did here.
@@iamhassan9943 enjoy. This is the Q a lot have been waiting for
Ooooh I want one!
Me too!
Always great to hear your perspective and your passion on these Leica topics :)
I was one of those who always wondered how a Q would look like with a longer focal length, since like you said I always cropped my Leica Q images, specially because of distortion.
Today at launch date of the Q3 43 I picked up my piece and did a quick unboxing video for my small channel. Although it's simply a Q3 with a longer focal length and all the known Q quality, it's a bit disappointing even Leica has to cut cost by not including a charger although the Q3 43 is more expensive.
I get it, since every other brand does it, but still ...
You are lately on fire Bobby, keep at it! :)
@@IntrovertAmateur thanks! Yes I’m not sure about this “not including charges now”. It’s like the no plastic straws but plastic plates and cups. Odd especially for the price of these cameras
Great set of pictures. Well done.
@@JS-shim thank you 🙏
I got mine yesterday, actually one of the first few in my country. I already love it very much, complements the Q2 28 I also have. The lens is breathtakingly good! :-)
@@gletschertroll congrats! Yes the lens is vey good!
I wanted a 50mm next to the 28 but I settle for 43mm 😂
Tomorrow to the store 🎉
@@RS-Amsterdam hahaha you will meet a few people waiting to get as well
Beautiful pictures ✨Thank you
@@Voyageurhorsdutemps thank you for watching
oh yay!! can't wait to buy this in about 6 years when I can afford it on used market
I love my Q3 28mm, but, having tested it, the focal length is actually nearer to 26mm than the nominal 28mm focal length, which is more than a bit too wide for me and, I suspect, for most users. Looking forward to getting the 43.
I agree. These are going to sell like crazy
0:10 is exactly it IMO. Splitting the difference between 35 and 50 is 7.5....landing you at 42.5 to be exact.
@@alexsorokin1896 and also the exact focal length we see in full frame format
Again, great review Bobby! I think people have become accustomed to this focal length in recent years due to the large number of smartphones with 28mm as well as the Q. Although I've used the Q1 and Q2 over the last few years, I've never got used to this 28mm and mostly cropped my images. 35 and 50mm is still my favourite focal length with my M11. Leica is making a smart move with the Q3 43 and the APO. I will receive my Q3 43 next week and am already very excited.
@@RolandSteffen thanks Roland and congrats! I think this will be a massive success for Leica
which would be better ? The leica q3 43 or a hasselblad x2d with a 55mm xcd lens? Im picking up my x2d tomorrow but dont know if its was the right choice
Medium format is a different beast than full frame. Both are solid cameras. Can’t go
Wrong with them.
@@btonelli that means its a good choice getting a medium format because ive got a xt3 (apsc) and a a7rV (fullframe) and now getting a medium format x2d
@@rphotographyofficial enjoy!
@@btonelli thank you very much ....great reviews 👍🏼
Still shooting with my Q1. Skipped the subsequent versions but this new focal length is very tempting.
Yes I believe this focal length will be tempting for many
what about the q3 28 1.7 lens versus the q3 43 APO? Yes, one is wider, but is there a loss in quality compared to the Q3 summilux? Or improvement?
@@tangosix5779 I find the 43 to be a better lens
From playing around with RAW images from DPReview and having owned a Q3 for a while I can assure you this is even sharper and even better corrected while keeping a nice 3D pop. It’s a gem.
You made me look back into the Leica APO 50 F2 and I was amazed it's still current (was introduced in 2012). In your experience, is this APO 43 about the same as the M APO 50?
Still a phenomenal lens so many years later. This is why Leica is Leica. Yes very comparable if not the same
How is the chromatic aberration on this lens?
@@sc1 hardly any. That’s why it’s an APO lens. Minimises CA
Great camera , Almost the same price as a black market X100 VI , only you'd be able to buy it :)
@@LOLA6ifyable I would rather have this :)
thank you for the review Bobby.
was wondering if the issue with the evf was fixed?
the q3 had a very minor shake of the screen in the viewfinder after you focused it. it was very minor but present in every press.
Thanks for watching. Is this in terms of the AF on the subject? It’s not super steady so there is some fluttering but not as bad as before
@@btonelli please see sample at the 4:15 mark here- ruclips.net/video/vr9liVTXEss/видео.htmlsi=s-b-8J-0sGzCq8j6&t=244
this thing was very present to me on every press that had me return the camera...
was really hoping they fix it.
thank you for your input.
@@12barko think that’s the lens OIS at work
It's not very wide but interestingly enough 43 mm is a good compromise. It allows you to get lovely portrait separation. It still allows you to shoot some landscapes in certain situations. You might want to take two images and stitch them together but it also gives you good macro capabilities as well and cropping ability. I'm not in the market for this type of camera but wow what a beautiful camera.
@@nevvanclarke9225 it really is. Great focal length
My most favorite travel camera is my Fujifilm X-H1 or X-T30 with vintage Canon FD 28mm f/2.8 lens, its similiar focal lenght to this new Leica. Slightly wider than 50mm but not too wide.
@@jakubstrumillo but with this no need to adapt. All in one camera
@@btonelli Yes, and that's amazing!
It IS a genius move by Leica because whenever I use a 40mm lens the photos are always perfect. It’s really true!
Yes it is!
The 40mm Summicron is one of my fav lens that have used. This focal length looks great
I’ve always wanted to try it.
Actually small tidbit factoid - the mother / father of all Leicas - the Leica UR had a 42mm lens. ☺️
Damn now I am thinking about selling my M10-R but this one. I had a quick try today and the focal lens is what I love. I used to have a 40mm Voigtlander on my Sony and it was it - the perfect focal lens for me.
@@Thelustigclub this camera is very tempting for many that like 40 and 50mm
Great idea from Leica. Back to the 40mm!
I nearly reach the Q feeling with my S5iix and the CL 40mm Summicron 😊for 1/3 of the price. Missing the AF of course but for sure if I really really like this focal length I might be ending ordering one Q343…
It’s tempting especially with this focal length
@@btonelli yes let us know if you get yours !
Great video again, by the way with lots of images to illustrate your experience. Cheers from France 😊
Hey Bobby, what if comparing it with X2D with 55v? I have X2D and considering getting 55v while Q3 43 released. What’s your take compare with these? Quality wise. Not mega pixel.
Great review! I love your pictures especially the post look. Do you sell presets as well? Would be very interested :)
Thank you 🙏 I’m putting together so presets soon.
What is the eye focus like ?
@@nevvanclarke9225 it’s decent. Sticky and fast
43mm is a sweet spot for me…. Very interesting option.
I love it!
Just bought an SL3. Must resist 😂. I’ll stick w/ my Q2 for my compact setup
@@A1000Truths lol!! Resistance is futile
The worse thing I did was buy a Q2. From that moment I was hooked into Leica. Got the M11, M6 2022 and now the SL3.
@@A1000Truths best of luck resisting this one
@@btonelli 🤣
Fellow Italian, how do you like the skin tones when it comes to portraits? This seems like a very good lens to take the ‘Quintessential’ dual ( two person ) portraits with a little bit of background fused in. I think this is a perfect for husband wife, daddy daughter, or multiple pets in the shot camera. I’m definitely interested in the skin tones. Definitely at F 11 to 13.
@@JinsungVideo Ciao! Skin tones are nice. Leica has always done a good job with them. Just be careful on overusing vibrancy and saturation as Leica does prioritise reds and you can see those pop up if too aggressive on the dials
hasselblad 55 (43mm) vs Leica Q3 43 - lets go
@@jaywbus ooooohhh that’s a battle
larger sensor always wins.
@@yangye7754 depends on one’s needs.
Hasselblad wins hands down due to HCNS
@@melvinsng2292A shame you only get the great color when using the horrible Phocus software.
Excellent explained and twenty minutes video you managed in 9 mins 28 sec 👍🏻😊
Thank you 🙏
At last. I'm an APO fan, so I hope that it lives up to the name.
@@crispin8888 it does!
Yes, you hit the nail on the head. I almost always crop my 28mm Q3 images so this one is just right for me. I have it coming to me already and with the Multifunction Protector from Leica. Thanks for your reviews and I also might unsubscribe as you always cost me in one way or another, but you do it so well.
@@louis5352 thanks! Congrats on the purchase! Haha you are too kind. I promise to save you money in the next few videos 😂
Eye watering ! Hey how do you find the size , keep hearing it’s larger . Is it noticeably different to original?
@@chouandsherrie it feels the same as the Q3 to be honest. Feels great in the hands.
@@btonelli music to my ears haha . Unsure about my wallet 😂😂
@@chouandsherrie I don’t have a wallet anymore haha
Yup. Well said...
@@artistwithcameras thank you 🙏
I also hope you do a video reviewing the new iPhone 16 pro camera system and that camera control button.
@@F15IDriver yes working on that
Very cool!..everything is nice as it should be based on the original Q3…but some missed opportunities for sure for a better “update” especially that bump on the price point…it could have at least implemented a built in memory like their other models…also No CAI ( Content Authenticity Initiative) support which could have been nice to have and also a bump on better AF performance..because we all know that the original Q3 isn't as efficient in the AF..lol just some little things to point out..but at the same time all these points could have made the camera even more of a worthy "upgrade" and that fact that some of these points are available, i.e built in memory, CAI..and Lecia chose not to implement them in this body is kind of disappointing..for that price bump obviously goes towards the lens nothing else ..haha
@@ldmndz4652 thanks for watching! couple thoughts on what you said. Yes I agree, internal memory would have been great. Leica should just make it this way across all their top tier cameras.
The CAI to me isn’t a big deal. If I screen shot an image all that info is gone. The tech still needs some work.
The AF has improved over when the first Q3 was launched. It can get better but it’s improved.
The lens in itself is a big upgrade. The MTF charts show it to rival the M 35 and M 50 APO options hence why the price is slightly more.
You know i would have loved Leica if they would have release a leica Q 43. The Q3 series sport a sensor with too much mpx on it for my liking and it comes with modern video features.
The focal length of 43mm pretty much is on pair with our human eyes. That is an interesting choice. Yet for the cost i can kit out my m240 with some awesome glass and yes i do realise that the comparison between Leica M & Q is a flawed one
Bingo
I think to keep the market interested higher megapixels is an easier sell for many, but understand your preferences.
Is this a full fram leica camera
@@ruff1draft yes
I still have quite a few gripes with the Q3... the slow sensor that makes e-shutter almost useless, the SD-door wrapping around the tripod mount just to fit those contacts for a wireless charging gimmick accessory, the flimsy port door, ... but my main issue was the focal length.
My wallet hates me right now.
Hahaha I hear ya. No camera is perfect but this focal length is what we want to have on a Q
@@btonelli Sure seems like it. Leica online store is sold out already apparently. Glad I ordered early.
I didn't get the Q3, cropping in from a 28mm to achieve a 50mm is sort of cheating when the subject has been distorted to fit a 28mm to begin with.
@@Stickybutton now no need to worry about those issues
I have tested my eyes and my eyes have a FoV of 16-18mm. Why is everyone saying that they only see 45-50mm though? That's super narrow.
By the way, 43mm is the standard focal length for full frame because √(36mm^2+24mm^2)=43mm
Hmm perhaps measuring wrong? 43mm some say 42.5 is what our eyes see in full frame
It’s about background compression than the actual field of view.
Though i believe Bresson would have chosen 28mm Q3 as he would shoot it on 50 with the frames, so he is seeing outside the frame. Otherwise some of his greatest work could not be made - or would have been made coincidentally :)
For me the Q3 delivers everything 28 - 35 - 50. i could take maybe some restrictions to 43mm in account if the body would be significantly smaller :)
I guess we will never know but being he used a 50mm quite extensively this seems to be the natural fit.
I think if you use the 43 you will find it less restrictive than you would think. It’s actually more accurate to what we see the framing of a moment is
If i had $6k spare, I'd buy one! But as it is, I have to settle for my Nikon Zf and Voigtlander 50mm APO, which I got on the strength of your review. Prob not too far the Q3 43.
@@bazzaah also a great combo!
I wish Leica makes a Q camera with either a 50 or 55 f1.2 or F1.4 lens. No one is used to use a 43mm lens. A lot of us used to learned photography with just a 50mm lens.
@@stephenleung9189 actually if you use a 50 the 43 feels very natural. I prefer it to a 55 honestly
Very nice release, Leica! Now give us common folk a truly new dLux with 40 summarit equivalent 🤞😌
@@HesselFolkertsma hahaha maybe one day
Evidentially there is a big issue if you want to put an UV filter on the 43mm lens and then go to macro mode. It cannot due to poor lens hood design.
Not a big issue as they do sell an accessory to use filters. Reality is most an owners probably don’t use filters. Those that need to can get the accessory
@@btonelli The first thing I do is put an UV filter on all my lenses to protect my investment. Not an issue with the Q, Q2 or Q3 28mm and now . . . . you need a freekin accessory!!!
@@chrisbogart687 I understand.
Why would you put a piece of cheap glass in front of this beast??
Just gonna like and comment for algorithm
Thank you 🙏🙏
I am a Canon user and I do not have any experience with the Leica system. This offer is very tempting. It is said that the Leica system is easy and simple in terms of settings and menus. Is that true? I have a strong desire to own this camera. Thank you.
@@mohmmedahmed23 no prob. The menu system is quite easy to use and very straight forward. Leica is about keeping things simple
Best review I don’t want to be that guy but how comparable to the Zeiss Batis 40mm on any Sony body. I feel there’s a lot of people sleeping on then Zeiss 40mm f2
Ahh your that guy!!! Haha kidding. This will be a superior lens. APO better corrected and I may probably higher resolving than the Zeiss
I impulse bought a Q3 two months ago and now I wish I waited for this 😂 I saw a pic with a Q3 43 with a Rode Mic attached to it, do you have any info about attaching external mic? I hope one day Leica releases Q body with an L mount one day.
As always great video Bobby.
Thanks! Can’t comment on non-announced products or features 😉
@@btonelli 🫡
It's a shame that Leica even doesn't note on the box or advertisement that you need a extra lens hood if you want to use a filter in all modes, including Macro mode.
I had to find it in the small print of the manual.
@@motivio it’s not something a lot of people use on the Q but yes there needs to be an extra accessory added if you want to use a filter
For Bobby, everything "could be your next (insert ad here)" as long as you buy using his links...
lol if only someone used my links 😂
This makes a ton of sense. May be time to unload the 1 and 2 and replace them with this. Great overall all-in-one street and travel camera.
@@RobertFalconer1967 agree
@@btonelli My only significant gripe (and it's a big one) is that a single UHS-II SD card in 2024-given this camera's other capabilities-is a major oversight, IMHO. If you're travelling with this camera, and something goes haywire halfway through the day while you're out and about and the card craps out, you'll never be able to recapture those moments. Built in storage (like the M11) or even a micro-SD slot (like the Zf) are really needed now. Especially at this price point.
@@RobertFalconer1967 agree. I also think internal storage should be considered. Not sure the reasoning behind the M cameras having this and the SL and Q cameras not to
Most people that wanted a 35 or 50 q Never used a q. If they would they would have noticed that for travel 35 is many times not wide enough. 28 was and is perfect. The q was meant to be a travel companion. If you want a camera that is great for more types of photography buy an M. The q 43 will leave you wanting for more.
Some just don’t gravitate to the 28mm focal length. This is a much more user friendly focal length for more people I feel.
Agree. That was the idea that the designer expressed in the interview.
Hello Bobby, very informative video and thank you for your thoughts. I always wanted a Q with a 50mm lens, while 43 is even better. This will be a wonderful camera. Now I bought both the Q and Q2 and sold both again. The Q3 did not tempt me but the Q3 43 looks tempting. Still, it will be not for me. While I am not a 28mm kind of guy, the lens was not the main reason for selling the cameras, it was the form factor. While the Q is slightly smaller than most mirrorless cameras, it is still not pocketable. So if I take this camera or an M or a Nikon Zf or... I have them in a small bag. The latter 2 offer me the chance to change lenses. I recall paying just under 4000 Euros for my first Q. Yes we have had inflation since then, but 6900 Euros for a fixed lens camera with sub par AF?? I agree the sensor and the menu are both brilliant.
A Nikon Zf with at 35/50 or 50/85 combo cost you half the money as does the 40 1.2 and 75 1.5 set up with Voigtländer lenses. It has the better AF and/or manual focus assist. The sensor of the Leica is amazing but if we don't pixel peep or crop the hell out of it you will not see the difference. This is no Leica bashing, just my thoughts and I am a Leica M user now for 14 years and still love the unique system , the experience and the heritage. Clearly if someone is shooting most of the time at an 40mm ish focal length, wants the Leica experience and brand and has the budget , I assume it will be an awesome camera.
Hi Mark thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts which are all valid and good assessment. There are so many good options out there that it really spoils us for choice and the cameras mentioned also have their strengths.
I was hoping for such a Q model but F2 with this size of a lens? The lens is quit large for what it is. If I take a look over to the Sony E mount and it's 35mm F1.8 or the legendary Zeiss 55mm F1.8 and having in mind, that you can build it even smaller, when it is a body with a fixed lens - I don't really get it. It's a half stop less. I'm a bit dissapointed.
Hmm you need to take in account this also has macro capabilities, APO lens with superior optics (Sorry Zeiss 55mm f1.8) it’s better than the Zeiss and it’s all in one camera is quite a feat. It’s only slightly longer than the Q3 28mm
@@btonelli Yeah APO, but the term Apochromat is used even when it’s just a less complex secundary version. The Zeiss 55 is an old lens, if they would produce a new version, things would look different. It shows what you can pack in such a small lens.
It’s just a bit underwhelming, wider and brighter lenses are even more complex to build, so this 43mm is giving me a lot of questions. I think I have to try it.
Start cropping on my Q2 photo's... just to find that excuse 😊😊
Haha
It’s weird that shutter sound you put when the Q cameras are virtually silent
@@rg3412 it’s just for effect to keep viewers engaged.
I was going to switch from my M11 to Q3...but I wanted to wait for this launch. I'm very intrigued!
Yes! This is going to be big for Leica
Internal storage and / or a 2nd SD card slot and this is my dream camera right here
@@MitchWebb94 wish it had internal storage as well
Original still makes more sense. And I can run filters whilst using the lens hood, which is a design flaw on the 43
@@bodythetan Leica sells an accessory to use a filter. I understand this concern but I’m guessing Leica has done their research into how many actually use filters on their W cameras and probably the ones that do are a smaller amount
I really want this camera even though I cannot afford it 😅 I already have two full-frame cameras and many lenses, so I don't need this camera but... My mind is trying to justify like, "Since I have been living in Germany for 7 years now, maybe I need to get Leica.. Non-sense... Haha...
@@hyunju225 hahaha sometimes you just need to support local 🥰
Henri Cartier-Bresson = Good advertisement
Hahaha yes
Isn’t it better to have wider shots. You have 60mp to play with and crop in. You can always zoom in but you can’t zoom out from a shot you’ve already taken.
@@ambition2959 depends. If you like photographing people and isolating subjects 43 will give you a bit more compression snd the f2 APO is a phenomenal lens
Q3 body with M mount and a bigger eyecup- and im in.. i know i know- go SL3 one may say, but i don’t need bigger camera. I already have SL2s and GFX 100-2 and i don’t want M rangefinder- smth like Q3 with m mount will be just perfect.
@@Anatol19066 perhaps one day we will get that EVF M
Just pre ordered the M11-D lol. I might have to unsubscribe to save whatever’s left in my bank account 😂.
@@marcgilles4520 lol!! Imagine me. I’m having weekly love affairs thanks to Leica
don't . 11d is a gem
hahahaha
Always enjoyed my Minolta Rokkor 40mm F2 lens. This might just be the end-game fixed focal length full frame mirrorless camera - if my wallet allows for it 😢
@@bennyyyyo I for-see more companies doing this
The emperor‘s new clothes. Normal vision is not 43mm or 50mm, unless your head is cemented in place and your eyes locked in one direction. Normal vision is scanning back-and-forth. Unless you’re a photographer looking through a lens, your vision is not fixed in one place. The advantage of a 28 mm Q3 is that you can compose a broader scene and crop later if it’s too wide. I dare anyone who buys the new 43 mm version of the camera to later crop out in post. Can’t happen. For those who ever use manual focus, you will find yourself limited in zone focusing because the 43 mm does not have the same depth of focus as the 28 mm. When you’re engaging in street photography, you are rarely too far (needing a longer focal length lens), you are usually too close and need a broader field of view. I know people have clamored for this, it’s just not an advantage for a street photographer, and probably not for a landscape photographer either.
When we say normal vision when we look at any particular item, subject or person etc the focal length we see at is 43mm in full frame equivalent. This is science.
Of course we scan around but when we take one photo it’s at a particular focal point.
This lens may not be for everyone and that’s okay. No one is saying buy it haha.
Some like myself prefer this. I don’t favor 28mm. I can respect the focal length but it’s not for me.
As it comes to street photography perhaps take a look at some of the veterans and see what they used. 50 and 35mm were the most common.
My point. Your 43mm is a fraction of what the eye experienced. It is a narrow slice. While that might suffice for a street portrait, it reduces the likelihood of capturing a candid momentary event on the street. And if there is a three dimensional aspect to the shot, you will have to stop down considerably to capture what a 28mm lens can render wide open. That is science. The longer the focal length the less the depth of field. The 28mm is better suited for the street. As to landscape photography, wider angles have always been the go to. Be careful what you wish for- you might just get it. Caveat Emptor.
Great. 43mm is such a sweet spot lens. 28mm was 🤮
Haha wouldn’t call the 28mm that but 43 is going to be the popular one I feel
😅 looking forward to more content. Keep it up
@@F15IDriver thanks!
You should really be an ‘Anchor’ for someone like CNN. You’ve got the lot. Plus I wanna buy everything you talk about. Great intro to yet another bankrupting product.
@@davidsbrompton-1947 hahaha that would be a cool job. Thanks for the kind words
Olympus sp has a 42mm fixed lens
Slightly different. 42.5 is what our eye sees.
For the 35mm or 50mm APO summicron, your paying way more than the Q3 43mm APO, and that's the lens without the body. From that perspective the Q3 is a deal.
True
Sadly, those who asked for 35mm or 50mm Leica Q, cannot even afford this camera. I love my Original Leica Q with the Creamy, Dreamy Summilux 28mm. If I did not trade my M240 and a few lenses, I could not afford it either.
Hard to say if some can afford it or not. 28mm is not a popular focal length for many so the desire for a 35 or 50 makes more sense
@@btonelli It is an Internet BS telling people 28mm is not good or desirable. It is so much more useful to have 28mm when traveling. I'll probably never go back to Iceland and I am so glad that I had the 28mm instead of 35 or 50. Cheers.
@@Boxer1250RTI guess depends. For me I can travel with 35 and 50 and get the shots I want. 28 doesn’t do it for me but everyone has their preferences. Cheers
Hot! and the camera too.
Thanks 🙏
Leica made a huge mistake with the 43mm. Before you had no choice but now you are start thinking of the limitations of having only one lens. And which mm is the best.
Huge mistake? Haha actually this is a good option. 28mm isnt for everyone. This makes more sense.
@@btonelli I feel like I cannot choose anymore between Q3 models.
@@philippGM43 is the way I would go
Love the Q so much but WTF I don’t wanna travel with 2xQs what that don’t do zoom????
@@sooooooooooos2300 just get one and crop in
Now make it monochrome and we got a deal
@@Sqeezy3 I wouldn’t be surprised if that comes
Unpopular opinion: The new Leica Q3/43 patent of Panasonic / Japan optics, housing and assembly Portugal, price "Wetzlar", i feel a bit fooled.
@@RouvenKasten I find it interesting how some look at this collaboration and find it less than a Leica camera completely made in Germany. I hate to break it to you but most Leica’s tech isn’t made in Germany and Portugal has a massive factory. Does that mean the cameras are less than? Not at all. It just means Leica needs partners to scale and yes they had partners even in the film camera days
@@btonelli You can see it that way, they are entitled to it. But you can expect more for the price these days. What if Leica was just about scaling? Why has the DLX8 a 700€ higher price sind the DLX7 with same tech, just a new housing. Why has the camera with the red dot become more of a status symbol than a photo tool? I don't think the prices are justified anymore.
@@RouvenKasten everything has gotten more expensive. I’m not a fan of that either but what do do. Inflation and it sucks
It should have been 35mm.
Monochrom version no screen.
@@contemporaryartist6542 Q3 43-MD
starting a video by showing how great this camera is with a picture of a meal in a restaurant. this is ridiculous :D
@@pascalpro06 those images are from the standard Q3 at the beginning. If you watched the video and listened you would know this. Also text is in the image. And yes people take images for food, people, landscapes etc. if you want to be critical that’s fine but leaving a comment like this doesn’t add anything or make anything better. If anything it’s the opposite.
No, no, no, no. Our eyes see multiple focal lengths and field of views at the same. Not only that, but segments of the human race see different combinations.
Save your money and get Ricoh GRIIIX 😉
Haha I have that. Two different cameras and performance
it looks like over-HDR photos. not sure if it's my monitor. very expensive camera.
@@tinot5093 I think could be the monitor. My images aren’t edited that way
Why is it SOOO expensive?
@@gabytro Leica has always been priced at a premium.
@@btonelli thanks. Are there cheaper alternatives?
Sure from different brands. You can get a Sony A7CR with a 40mm f2.5 G lens and also get good performance and good image quality
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Don't do this to me, my wallet can't take it
Neither can mine
BS! Sorry! only Leica can convince folks less is more! Snapshot camera! Any camera can do this!
Every watch can tell time, then why buy a Rolex
over price
@@최빅터-b1y depends on the person getting it