TENET Explained Why Kat Is The TRUE Future Protagonist | Theory And Evidence
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- TENET Explained Why Kat Is The TRUE Future Protagonist | Theory And Evidence. Christopher Nolan's Tenet has a lot to unpack from it and this video we're breaking down the fan theory that Kat is actually the future Protagonist, controlling the events of the movie to get revenge on her husband.
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So Tenet is a film I've up, down, left, right and inside out. Like the characters in the movie, it's only upon going through the events of it several times that I started to see things from a new perspective and the more I watch the more it becomes clear that Kat is actually the Future Protagonist.
We're gonna be going through all the clues but if this is your first time here then welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show I'm your host Paul aka the coolest Kat when it comes to Tenet, now let get into the Video.
Ok so this train of thought first came to me on my 797th watch of the film during the scene in which The Protagonist encounters Priya for the first time.
Upon reverse bungee jumping into her home he initially believes that her husband Sanjay Singh is the weapons trader that has been dealing in munitions. However, it's revealed that Priya is actually the one behind this and she says "A masculine front in a man's world has its uses."
This sent me spiralling off into thinking that it could indeed be the case with The Protagonist and just like how he is the face of the operation, it actually goes far beyond that.
Now I think from the way that Priya acts and the things that she says that she has at some point interacted with The Future version of The Protagonist at some point. She has an air of arrogance to her about the events that are going on and doesn't seem to respect the protagonist at all, even disobeying what he says at several points.
Now if she was aware that he would be the overseer of Tenet then surely she would respect and fear him more.
This got me thinking, what if the Protagonist is actually controlled by someone and he is simply being used as a masculine front to hide what's going on? That made me really start to deconstruct his actual character and the more I thought about it the more I realised how he doesn't really fit the mold of the God Like person that we hear about controlling it all.
Throughout the film the character has little to no agency at all. Whether it's the opera scene at the start, being told what to do and wear by Michael Crosby, having Neil keep him in check and so on, he just doesn't seem to be the person making decisions.
Even Ives shows up out of nowhere and tells him what to do and he almost kills both Neil and The Protagonist before changing his mind.
I know this is him likely just playing with the pair but The Protagonist doesn't really strike me as someone who's good at making choices. In fact most of the times that The Protagonist does take charge of something it ends in failure. This is seen especially in the highway chase in which he ends up in a car crash and he only manages to stop the algorithm from being buried because Neil sacrifices himself.
This idea of him following orders is further hammered home with what could be his opposite, Sanjay. The Protagonist says he's not the person they send to negotiate and even admits to simply being a trigger that people send to pull. Like Sanjay he's in place to do one jobs but when it comes to making decisions, he's not the person people turn to.
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Another point towards this is that it would cost a fortune to run Tenet. After Sator died, Kat would inherit his billions and therefore be able to afford the operation.
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Neat idea! Love your videos...seems like we enjoy this movie to a similar degree. Suggestion: doing an explanation of the bullets in the wall would explain one of the main sticking points people have in the movie and be very useful for understanding a temporal pincer.
It’s on the tip of the nose with Kate being as tall as an “angel”
Nice interpretation. Why would Kat let Neil sacrifice himself after protecting him for the entirety of the movie?
*Heavy Spoilers* Since you're making videos about Tenet's theories, Can you make a video that explores the idea/Theory that Neil is the real protagonist? PLEASE, I've seen this theory in many comments and even though he died and therefore he can't be the protagonist of the future, but the theory is about Neil being low-key the protagonist of this movie..
This movie is ironically so far ahead of its time. It won't get the respect it deserves for quite a while. This is how movies should be made.
Agreed, everytime I tell people on Twitter that I’m doing a new video on it I can guarantee I’ll get comments saying ‘why? it’s crap’ think it goes over a lot of people’s heads but it’s very well made
@@heavyspoilers Oh 100%! Don't let those people stop you from making these videos, because these videos will age like a fine wine! And the argument I don't get that I keep hearing is "You shouldn't have to watch a movie multiple times to understand it all," and I'm like, that should be the goal of every movie! To make the film somehow get better with multiple viewings like this one. And its not boring either. Its honestly a perfect film!
@@heavyspoilers I agree with Mitchell. You should keep making these videos.
Love watching them as always.
I guess people havent watched primer yet.
ruclips.net/video/NFxrQTNQl84/видео.html
I can see Kat funding the orginization, but how Neil speaks about the protagonist tells me he is the head. The disrespect shown to him throughout the film is because he is moving towards who he will be, but is inexperienced. His scene at the end is a glimpse at who he will be. Priya is terrified of him because he's becoming THE protagonist and she was blindsided because he's holding the cards now.
'Priya' 😊😊😊😊
@@AllenJohn Thank you! I'll change it but I wanted to let you know this comment helped!
True
I agree
Exactly! It was his first mission in a whole new world. He isn't going to have all the answers.
Also, she is the tallest character.
Well of course she is the protagonist because she is the tallest, makes perfect sense, only tallest people can be protagonists,
She has an inversed Napoleon complex
Correction, she is the tallest actor
@@bigums21 correction, she is 6'3 " there are many actors taller than her, many! Her character in the movie is what he was talking about and she wasn't the tallest character either
Invader Zim makes angry invader noises
Everyone knows that the HOT SAUCE is the true protagonist.
The Protagonist ordered his hot sauce an hour ago, and never got it. What kind of sauce was it, and what was it doing all this time?
Kats is the HOT sauce
I want Nolan to confirm that theoretically the Protagonist did get his hot sauce.
I mean after all Neil did say “we get up to some stuff...you’re gonna love it” - they could have inverted to get his hot sauce.
I wonder if anyone has gone up to JDW and handed him a bottle of (any kind of) hot sauce and said
“Here. You ordered this an hour ago. Sorry about that.”
He ordered it an HOUR ago!
Hot sauce is always the villain, lol
The main problem with this theory is the Kat would not be content with her son, Neil, dying. Just as the Protagonist risks the entire operation to save Kat, And Neil risks himself to save the operation, Kat would likely extend her goals beyond that of saving herself and the world. She'd also find a way to save her son.
They said at the start of the film, it's not about them... It's about survival... Of the human race. As we have learnt from the past kat and Neil, they are actually both selfless and have shown they would risk their lives. It's not hard to imagine they would have had a conversation about Neil's death and maybe Neil just chose to be the bigger man and save humanity by his sacrifice, what mother wouldn't be proud, although a utter loss.
What's happened has happened.
@@TrYzRAID so why protagonist saved Kate in the original story?
Your theory is a dream
There’s also a theory that Neil was her son in which case all of this would make sense, cause he’d have to be alive to save the world.
None of them know about future. "Ignorance (about future) is our ammunition" . And Niel may not be the son as we all think.
The beauty in Nolan's films is that you would keep watching and watching every year and decades later you would still find something new.
I would say it is one of the most complex and confusing movie I have ever watched. I am actually shocked because I would think that the movie audiences only want cgi and super hero’s
"I begin to see things in a new perspective." = "I have finally gone insane."
Currently my favorite theory is that the scientist in the beginning (Barbara) is the one that created the algorithm in the future.
No she isn't. Priya said a scientist generations from now created the algorithm and killed herself. Babara doesn't fit that timeline.
@@piriyefyneface9867 I mean, I get that, but generations can mean 2.
@@EvilEric-Mythicult the connotation I got when Priya said that was a "very long time from now in the distant future"
@@piriyefyneface9867 That is very likely possibility since we aren’t given much context of how far ahead the future is communicating with Sator. I think with Nolan however, if he shows us only one scientist and then says a scientist who is working on the same study subject (Barbara was even working on a wall from Stalsk-12) and has a major involvement with the plot it’s the likely indication.
She's pregnant in the film, so it's possible that it's her daughter or granddaughter for that mattet
Any film that receives this much attention is clearly brilliantly made, people can say what they want about it and about Nolan but it’s a masterclass
Agree. Best movie of 2020 by far.
only thing lacking is the protagonist's backstory, we dont even know his name
@@lye27 true true, I didn’t even think about that
I swear this channel has me trapped in a loop rewatching Tenet over and over for eternity.
Lmao
Watch it backwards
It's a fuckin good movie.... Wish it got a well deserved rating.
@@JinKee Bruh
You have to stop and move forward with your life! I had to do it too, which is why I'm watching this video, and making this comment. 🤔 dammit!
Kat who can’t resist killing Sator at every opportunity when she’s not supposed to?
The boat scene is what got him to let his guard down
Great point
If she knows what's happening (because of time travel), then she KNOWS killing him will not end the world, and she knows it all works out.
Exactly. Makes NO SENSE
Man I felt personally insulted when Sir Michael Caine said, "...Brooks Brothers won't cut it". Why does Nolan have to go after our peasant looking suits?
to be fair he only meant it in reference to posing as a billionaire. all their shit is custom or very high end.
@@StreetHeartVintage My boss is a Billionaire, he gets his suits from H&M.
@@barfymann362 neat!
@@StreetHeartVintage It might be also a critique from Nolan on British snobbery. There are a lot reference to "appearences", wealth, people living in their ivory tower being participants of the future downfall by climate devastation which people from the future is trying stop by attacking the past.
Lol just don't wear that brand in that restaurant! That's why the host was a asshole towards the protagonist haha
Watching the film isn't the problem
Understanding the film is the problem
Thank you so much
I never got so much likes
that part is a little bit dramatic.
Don't try to understand it. Feel it.
Would you let a child watch this?
Nods
A woman?
If I had to. I'm not looking to make much confusion here
To do what I do... I need some idea of the threat we face
@@Hooperick36 would you take a child hostage
Much NOISE HERE
He told her to call him so he can know where to go back. HE told HER to call...
so what does that mean then?
@@mcdoub1986 Leo is still there stuck watching the top spin forever
Right. She’s just following orders blindly.
She ended up making Adam Warlock.
Reverse bungee jumping. That’s a good way to describe the movie.
Nolan wanted to be a physics teacher ended up being a director 😂
l saw Tenet today had me gripped right to the end. Christopher Nolan is a genius.
Dude a new tenet video every week? I’m here for it lol
Hahah yeah I keep spotting new stuff every time I watch it and just can’t help myself
C'mon, I just watched it for the 3rd time and only catch a slightly better understanding each time. Kat? She does kill Sator. But I agree she would have kept Neil alive if he was her son--and I believe he was. Is. Whatever. I'm so confused.
We'll just ask the stars
You made some good points but I reeeally find it difficult to see her in that light.
The point you made of The Protagonist messing things up as he goes along is also a bit unfair given that every other insider (Neil, Yves, Priya, the multiple teams) already were aware of the real details and/or have been through the 'loop' already, whereas it's his first time (in this cycle). He's as clueless as we are.
Secondly, the fact that Kat killed Sator doesn't make her a 'god like - controlling figure', more like an unreliable one. She took a plunge to kill him as vendetta disregarding the fact that everything would have gone hay wire. If her son was truly her biggest concern, she won't have risked blowing up the world as vengance. I don't see her being patient enough to set up such an elaborate scheme only to risk messing it up at the last minute. Let's not also forget that she tried to kill him while they were water gliding by unhatching his rope. Future Kat would remember all this and if she were the original Protagonist, I honestly think she wouldn't have taken these risks.
And while it is true that she has more access to Sator than others, The Protagonist could easily have worked with her to found Tenet. Doesn't make her 'THE Protagonist' but merely 'A Protagonist', just like Niel is, which is what I assumed Priya mean't about multiple protagonists.
Anyways, thanks for the video(s) ! This movie is a gift that keeps on giving; there's always something to uncover!
This.
Yes I agree! I'd love to know who you think recruited who within the TENET organisation. This is my best guess...
Scientist from future recruits Future Protagonist and tells him everything.
Future Protagonist recruits Neil
and tells him everything as well as what Neil needs to in the past in order to save the world.
Neil recruits Priya and tells her about the scientist and the algorithm. Maybe he did this under the alias of Max if he is to be Kat's son. (Priya and Neil never actually have contact in the film.)
Priya recruits Ives
and tells him about the scientist and the algorithm.
Ives recruits Wheeler and Tenet soldiers and tells them about the turnstiles and inverted entropy but not about the algorithm.
Neil tells Fay & Barbara from the CIA about Tenet and inverted items.
Fay brings in current Protagonist.
Does this hold up? What would your best guess be?
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Hmm, interesting connections! The only things I would change/modify would be-
1) No need for Future Scientist to recruit Future Protagonist. At the end of the battle, we see him already become THE Protagonist, BUT it's very possible that he may have contacted Future Scientist to help set up Tenet or at least understand in more detail what her entire project was. Also, we never knew who or how Barbara got all those inverted parts she is studying and it seems majority of those parts came from the last battle. Since there's a theory she's the Future Scientist in the past, I think the Future Protagonist may have been the one to send it to her past self (after the battle) so she can study them and be ready to teach his rookie self when they (re) meet.
2) I do think Niel recruited Priya; They never met in the film but he knew an awful lot about the interiors of her home and security layout to be able to breach it successfully. A little difficult to do if you've never been there before. Therefore, them actually meeting in the film would have given each's supposed discretion away.
3) From the film, it felt to me that Niel and Ives knew each other really well (and didn't hide that fact) because remember The Protagonist feeling suspicious over Niel and how much knowledge he really had about everything when they all meet at the turnstile after Kats' been shot. I think Niel recruited him and he in turn brought Wheeler and the squad. I think this is possible because Niel also recruited the guys that blew up the plane. On the other hand, since Ives is military, Fay could also be his recruiter (CIA). But Niel and Ives definitely feel like they have some history regardless of who recruited him.
4) That said, I think Future Protagonist recruits Fay and gives him enough intel not just about Tenet but also about himself so that Fay can convince his past self to carry out the mission. One thing we know about the Protagonist is that he wears his honor and virtue on his sleeve. He's selfless and would rather die than betray. Fay knew all the right words to butter him up to take on the mission. They also planned the mission specifically to appeal to his heroic side. Also, what I'm beginning to suspect and I really don't know if other people have brought this up but when Fay and The Protagonist set up the mission with the fake cyanide pill and he passes out, I really do think he is then taken through a turnstile and re-inverted back to an earlier time. Doesn't the battle at the end happen at the same time as the Opera siege? And are we supposed to believe they completely fixed his mouth, his lost teeth and busted eye without even one scar? I think that moment is the beginning of the loop for the present protagonist.
Edit - about No 2. It's also possible that Fay may have recruited Priya. A CIA operative would definitely know an arms dealer or two and he may have told Niel how to breech into her home. However, I do like the Niel - Priya connection, so we'll just leave it at that, lol.
@@SaffariRose I'm definitely reaching with some of my connections!
How do you think the future scientist inverted to the present? Priya says in the film that she's generations away from now. This would mean she'd have to travel back at least decades before she got back to the past to hold the algorithm and would have been very old.
The only reason I thought Priya may have recruited Ives and Co is because when the soldiers arrive in their first scene , the Protagonist asks Neil who they are, he says Priya's. Also in the final mission, he's at least 3rd in command behind Ives and The Protagonist. Again, this is what makes me think Priya may have recruited Ives etc.
But yeah, I agree with everything else!
Yellow* Sage * if future Kat is in charge in the end then future Kat HAS to take all those risks.
The events have to play out exactly as they need to, just as they did during the pincer movement, just as Neil has to, knowing his fate.
It’s one of the reasons that ignorance is their ammunition. If they knew what was happening it might change things and, whoever’s at the end of all the loops, wants things to be as they are.
Tenet is a film which alerted us
Just save natural resources
this is really an underrated comment
Well..if the on going forest fire and constant climate change hasn't alerted us fellow homo sapiens... I doubt how much a movie can...
Smiles in thanos
Protagonist himself says in the movie that his future self is the one who created tenet.
Heavy spoilers: No I don't think so
Maybe he just thinks he is, he has no way to confirm it’s true
But he has the capability to create tenet. Unlike the example you gave of priya-sanjay where sanjay knows nothing about what priya does, here our protagonist has more knowledge of events than Kat. So just being a masculine face for tenet would be a downgrade for our protagonist 😕
@@heavyspoilers your theory is a reach
@@ayandak47 forreal movie is amazing but he is reaching ode now might as well say priya is the protagonist at this point 🤣
@@heavyspoilers ignorance is our ammunition
Another point to consider is that Sator has the CIA issued suicide pill (that we know doesn't actually kill you) and Kat convinces him not to take it. This means she could be the founder of Tenet, knowing that the pill wouldn't work just as it didn't for the Protagonist. Having Sator believe that the pill would work gave Kat the upper hand so that she could personally kill him and carry out the whole mission. In sum, Kat is the Protagonist and JD Washington is basically Assistant to the Regional Protaganist. ;)
Or he told her to call him if she ever needed saving and she did and he did just that. I still believe he was the protagonist.
He is the protagonist. However, Kat could be his figurehead similar to how Priya’s husband was her figurehead. Since the protagonist is supposed to be dead, he could be doing everything from the shadows while Kat does the in person stuff. It would also fit the whole lying to keep secrecy thing Tenet does.
Feels like you’re reaching a little as both make “commands” if anything the protagonist more, speed boat”we’ll take my boat” hands her the phone and tells her any sign ring. Tells her the story she’s going to lie about to sator ect.
This is the least convincing of any of the Tenet theories that you've put forward, which is unfortunate because it's stated the most dogmatically. I don't see any real evidence here, just musings about whether the characters' personalities are consistent with speculations about the Protagonist of the future. The entire notion seems deliberately contrarian rather than meticulously reasoned.
Agreed
I think he's just taking the piss really
Ok what do you think of this theory?
Scientist from future recruits Future Protagonist and tells him everything.
Future Protagonist recruits Neil
and tells him everything as well as what he needs to in the past in order to save them future.
Neil recruits Priya and tells her about the scientist and the algorithm. Maybe he did this under the alias of Max if he is to be Kat's son.
Priya recruits Ives
and tells him about the scientist and the algorithm.
Ives recruits Wheeler and Tenet soldiers and tells them about the turnstiles and inverted entropy but not about the algorithm.
Neil tells Fay & Barbara from the CIA about Tenet and inverted items.
Fay brings in current Protagonist.
bravo man!! you made everything crystal clear just through some lines and here all the videos explaining the plot couldn't forward this theory
Subscribed because at the end you said, "If you watch Tenet every week like me".
There’s so much they can do in a possible Tenet sequel!!
We are now in young Niels's perspective, while he learns the organization of TENET while being mentored by Protagonist...
It’s okay to not have sequels.
It doesn't need sequel, not everything need to be a franchise, there is absolutely nothing a sequel can do to add to this world, it would just be more of the same thing, why can't people just be happy with a great stand alone film,
@@rocoe9019 some people like to continue the exploration of a world they were exposed too. Plus there are many avenues to travel down and answers we don’t truly have with this specific film.
You already watched its sequel. You just don't know it yet.
I think she could definitly play a big role in the organisation, but I think that the protagonist could also grow into the role. In the movie we only see him at the beginning of his journey. He is often guided by others because he doesn't really know what he is doing while the others do. I could see him grow into making more decisions aftershave the events of the movie
Knowing what it's like to do things in ignorance, and making "ignorance our ammunition" would be very good way to understand when this needs to be done to others, and how they might feel and react. Also near the start, there's the guy with the speech "this is the coldest of cold wars" hints that there's a full scale war with people trying to change the past. This might just be one tiny part of a much bigger war.
You just brought in the "Who's the Boss?" Paradox to Tenet. I think even Abed from Community would be proud!
Love your Tenet videos! The breakdowns in your videos really helped open things up for me I never would’ve thought or caught.
@7:00 I think I disagree that Sator's heart stopping would trigger the device. I think the implication they made with the deadman's switch was that it would flood the future with messages about the whereabouts of the assembled device. The movie references forward communication via email, etc.
Yes, exactly.
It took you 797 times to finally figure it all out? I had it by 650. Geez, you’re slow...😏
Me and Christopher seem to think alike. First viewing. I understand it. Not to flex lol jk
@Josh but your number isn't a palindrome
It only took me one time using a temporal pincer movement
My favorite quotes:
“I ordered my hot sauce an hour ago!”” “ Mission accomplished”
(Ives) “ Yes I will”
"where i come from, they take me out to dinner first."
Tenet is Nolan's masterpiece, repeat viewing is necessary.
The flaw in the theory is that she’d have to have some major insight into Tenet and how inversion works, we have no reason to believe that she can or does gain This knowledge after the events of the film.
She herself was inverted at least twice, and spent a lot of time in transit with Neil and P. During that time, P and Neil explicitly explain to her what's going on and what her part is (as far as they know). Neil just barely makes a half-hearted expression that she shouldn't be told too much before just getting right into spilling EVERYTHING.
By the time they arrive, Kat knows details of the mission and has a lot of time to process them and mentally prepare herself for her critical part in it.
Furthermore, after the mission she has plenty of time to learn more and prepare, as she returns forward in time to when she can resume her "normal" life. Remember she knows the locations of two turnstiles already, and can learn a lot just by observing folks going in/out of their locations.
@@IsaacKuo whenever kat was inverted she was always in a controlled environment guided by protag and neil, neil told her basic sure but she didn't experience much in inverted timeline. Just like how neil and others briefed prog about inverted timeline but when he set his foot outside is was very hard to adjust theoretical knowledge doesn't mean much without practical experience.
This is why Nolan is brilliant. Interstellar & Inception can also be left to the imagination where each viewer's preferred theory or interpretation is right. Another amazing video!!! 💕
It seems like both of them are the protagonist. Kat as the thinker and the protagonist as the man of action.
But her leaving him a message was his suggestion if she ever felt watched or in danger. He knew Priya was gonna take her out and he wanted to prevent that. I felt the opposite, that finally he was ready to call the shots, and that he wouldn't let anybody choose his fate after that point.
Also I had the feeling that after that incident, he got into a romantic relationship with her and a father figure for Max (Neil). Though you might disagree due to the "would you ever take a kid hostage"-thing that Neil says.
The whole mission being a temporal pincer move is for the sake of the Protagonist since he's present for every major event. He had to experience it which is why he's mostly being led throughout. His actions are dictated by feeling as shown in the opera siege where he saves everyone in the cheap seats. Kat would have missed too many parts of the mission to effectively plan it the way it is.
Thanks for the videos!
Dude, the reason he’s being “pushed around” in the beginning, and that he doesn’t seem to be the one in charge, is because he doesn’t know he’s going to be the one in charge. Hopefully you got that essential part of the movie. Of course he seems confused and new to it all, because he _is_ confused and new to it all. I can’t understand why you said what you said at 1:51 unless you thought he was the one making decisions at that time.
TENET is probably one of the best things I've seen, I genuinely feel this way.
You can tell the lack of quality films we got in 2020 just by the amount of Tenet videos you've posted since it's release. Don't get me wrong though, I love them. Keep em coming!
Looooool yeah for real, glad we at least got this though, dunno how many more times I could’ve talked about birds of prey
This is a totally crazy take on a complete mind trip of a movie! I can't wait to watch this movie again. This video is why I love movies so much. Visual stories that make you think and question the fundamentals of reality are my jam. Great commentary!
Great videos, thank you for doing them.
I feel like this theory doesn't change much about the meaning of anything in the story. The only story thing that I think matters is that Neil has some relationship with P. In future years, P and Neil clearly spend time together. Whether the big boss of Tenet is P, Kat, Neil, or just some other random person either during the era of the movie events or some time many years into the future, I don't think it really matters. I don't see how that changes much about the impact of the story or the characters in the movie. If Kat or P is the big boss of Tenet, they don't know it yet during the movie, so it doesn't really affect anything, imo, and I don't think it affects much about how we are supposed to relate to their characters.
Also, during the beginning of this video, you mentioned that people don't show P much respect, but that would make a lot of sense if the nature of the organization is such that people don't know the identities of everyone in the organization. It would make a lot of sense if P (or Kat) was the leader and yet never made that directly known to any of the characters seen in the movie. In fact, the original interpretation most people have is that P is the leader of Tenet, yet he never makes it known to his past self until maybe Neil tells him as much towards the very end of the movie
Cool theory mate, and it actually makes sense. How does he get so cool theories.
Nothing makes sense. Absolutely nothing. He‘s so far off, he shouldn’t even be on RUclips.
That`s an interesting theory. I'll have to watch it a few more times and reflect on it. Always an entertaining perspective. Keep the good work!
Great theories and it changed my focus and now we need a PREQUEL-SEQUEL-PREQUEL. Ow, my head hurts. :p
I like this and for sure if not the main protagonist, she is one of top important ones. Also remember how Kat talked about woman jumping out of boat and that she envied how free that woman was (her future more aware self. I believe it was during dinner with main character)
The main question is why is priya wearing her earrings back to front at her death scene.
That's the style of those earrings. They're from Dior and were quite popular some years back with the fashion crowd. However, since this is a Nolan movie, it could mean something, lol.
Because they are reverse-entropy earrings!
@@davidste60
Ha ha everything is deliberate and has a meaning in a Chris Nolan film.
Brilliant theory and one that definitely shines a light onto this magnificent multiple-possibilities-plot. Well done!
Clever stuff. Thanks HS!
This is first tinet video on your channel 🙂 waiting for more in future
Hahha I see what you did there
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Nobody caught Neil mentions posterity 1st to the Protagonist and then uses it when explaining to Kat who would contact her in the future.
You make the coolest breakdown videos! Keep it up! 🤘🤘
Thank you
This is the best theory that makes the most sense to me. I’ve only seen it 3 times so far but playing it through in my head and I definitely see and agree with your findings!
I'll be honest I've watched every TENET video you've made, and i'm still no closer to understanding how anything in this movie works nonetheless what the sequence of events are. To no fault of your own obviously, time travel is just really confusing.
Look at time circular, not in straight line
how many times have you watched the movie ?
Think both linear and concurrently
If she was so God-like and and high ranking, she would never have been in any danger from Pria. I disagree with your theory. What Black man can't be the main character as well as the main bad ass protagonist? Lol
I took this analysis more like man can't be a protagonist. It's time! And has to be a woman
😆 excellent video thanks for the theory drop!
My fav Tenet theory so far. Like you pointed out, something about the Protagonist’s characterization (lack of agency, just doing what others tell him and not really leading) made it difficult to see how he could become this nigh omnipotent string puller in the future
Besides the fact that he knows every single thing that happened so he can run this shit forwards and backwards since know the events that took place
He's definitely the one who's in charge. Of course now, he's just learning the ropes. But he's developing the leadership
I've lost count of how many video essays definition has done for tenet but every time he does one I learn something new, i don't think theirs been another movie that's had so many different interpretations!
Hahah yeah me too 🤣🤣🤣
@@heavyspoilers Love the videos! keep up the great work!
Another great Tenet video! Love it! :)
If she was the architect behind it all, she would not have been surprised when the protagonist was seen leaving the kitchen out the back door after their first meeting.
Good point.
It actually makes sense....especially at the end on the boat.
Yeah after a lot of viewings I think it makes a lot more sense
@@heavyspoilers Great catch and Kudos for watching this movie more than twice!!!!!
Having debate about facts is one thing
But this theory about Kat is just ....bull
Otherwise, she’s kind of the biggest idiot ever, right?
Killing him early, when she has been told that will kill her, her son and HUMANITY.
@@heavyspoilers Good work...this is a really great theory and quite a different perspective...I have watched TENET several times and you have given quite a few points that I have missed myself...now what I think is that in an alternate timeline the world was screwed because THE PROTAGONIST's earlier run-in with SATOR was a fail...but he learned about INVERSION and founded TENET and he planned this mission just so in a way that everybody knows something but not everything so that they will steer his past self into making the right choices at the right time which he failed to do in the first place...that is how he takes control and saves the world at the end...so it doesn't make Kat THE PROTAGONIST but she funds the project using SATOR's resources just as you said...
What a fucking movie... So many things can be interpreted... 🔥🔥🔥
Been watching videos and the movie as a way to deal with my mom being in ICU with Covid. She's finally home and this isnthe most appealing theory Ive seen so far. Thanks mate for the escape these past several weeks!
Glad she was able to go home!! Hugs
You make some really great points.
I ordered my Tenet Spoiler an Hour ago...
You do know this will not be the last time you watch Tenet?
Love these Tenet video's and theories!
This was absolutely brilliant. 👍
Awesome points. I also wanna bring up the point that after Kat kills Satore, she says “I assumed you found a way to stop it” or something like she knew it was gonna work out no matter what or that if it didn’t work, she wouldn’t be existing and that furthers your point that she had a very intimate and intricate understanding of the timeline. Cheers. To watching Tenet 400,000 times
You do realize the Protagonist has time to mature
This is my biggest problem with this theory. He obviously grows massively just in the length of the movie and with years after the movie still there for more growth it just doesn’t add up to me. Still a cool perspective I just personally don’t think it’s true.
Blew my mind. Now I have to watch it again. You made a lot of good points here, I believe it way more than the “Neil is Max” theory!!
Great theory. Definitely will be looking at it from this perspective this week
3:13 that's literally how everything works based on the movie explanations about stored information. the protagonist gives her a way to record events that will be accessed in the future. because of that, the protagonist is able to protect her with the information she provides. idk why any of this would lead you to believe it's some huge reversal based on assumptions because of a throw away line from Priya. Especially since the only connect Kat has to TENET is the protagonist and Neil makes that comment about watching her from afar. Grasping at straws here.
I can finally see. It all makes sense again
The reason she made The call is because he told her to call if she felt worried. Also, he isn't the protagonist in the beginning, but he is in the end
Very cool theory, thanks!
I wouldn't be mad if you keep making Tenet videos until the end of time
Kat's character had the most significant change in the film. In the beginning she was manipulated by Sator but by the end she finds retribution. This is in complete contrast to the Protagonist. He doesn't get a backstory and his history is by and large omitted. So it makes sense Kat was the protagonist.
Or it makes sense that a mysterious organisation is ran by a mysterious man.
why are y’all trying to grasp at invisible straws there’s no evidence she’s the protagonist and why would he be identified as the protagonist and step into the role as such by “tying up loose ends”
@@tiat.5814 it's the "savior" complex if you get what I mean
@@bigcoop3717 Hahaha, I got ya.'
Good theory! Cleared up some questions for me.
Ooeeh, can't wait to see your video. Nice to see somebody else who is just as obsessed with Tenet as me! Thought I was going crazy. Just watched the movie for the 3rd time after your last upload! Keep 'm coming friend.
Ey no problem, got a couple more ideas for stuff so I hope you enjoy it
@@heavyspoilers I watched your vid and really liked it! I was wondering what your take is on the scene on the yacht (2de half). Where there is a dialoge with Kat and the protagonist. And she says that she knows Sator is an armsdealer (quite naïve) and the protagonist answers with "he is so much more". Is it not possible she is oblivious about sator's role until that point? Again I really liked your theory about Kat and the reference to 007 and M.
My take is that The Protagonist simply fell in love with that woman. That is why he goes to all this length to escape the time loop so that he can ultimately end up with her.
I hope you're wrong, that would be so boring
@@PhilGerb93 The film doesn't say this. It simply shows you that the Protagonist did everything he could to save her life after she got shot plus he intends to go back in when the movie ends. Why did he go to all this length to save her instead of focusing on the mission? Again the movie doesn't answer this. This is just my interpretation.
Theory- Sator was being killed by cancer from the radiation of inverted objects and inverting himself
No, it was explained why he actually got cancer
He worked at radioactive waste sites as a teenager that's why he gets the cancet
Amazing breakdown of the Nolan archetype and how it gets applied into Tenet. Like any Nolan movie, the more you watch it, the more you discover.
Really good theory! Would love to dive more into the details!
"The algorithm was supposed to detonate when Sator's heart stopped" . Excuse me, what? How did you misunderstand the movie in such a big way? That is not what was supposed to happen.
Right!?
It's supposed to detonate the bomb and bury the algorithm below ground in order for the future 'people' to uncover it and use it in their time. That's why they had to take out the algorithm before the bomb goes off.
God i hope i got that right hahaha
@@mylesdlm Yup.
Fun concept. But they won’t tell us Washington’s character is the protagonist without him being it.
Its a very good theory. I need to watch it a few more times. You have very insightful videos
All of these theories are starting to hurt my head. Keep them coming.
Tenet is the kind of movie where any crazy theory can make a lot of sense.
I was just thinking that exact same thing while rolling through these comments man Lol
So she sends her son (Neil) to his death? Nah, just Nah.
If he is her son
Neil/ Max is a big boy, he has a choice over what he does with his life, he's a hero, he saved the human race. Only a selfish person would choose to live Vs saving humanity (mother his mother included). Also the film explicitly says Neil is the only one capable of doing various things.
abortion ,, at a futuristic level. LEL :o
Wow! I never thought about that. I think you may have something. I have thought that Neil was The Protagonist's son for a while, and that Neil and Kat develop a relationship in the future. This is why he is so concerned about her. Your videos are awesome. Keep up the good work.
I thought the same about Kat, for the same reason. Priya’s statement felt like foreshadowing and I was waiting for the reveal of Kat being behind it all the whole way through.
I think not revealing it though is the loose-end Nolan wants us to muddle over but in my mind it would be another interesting loop if we discover that Kat is in charge. after the reveal that the “woman” Kat saw, and was jealous of for being free, was in fact herself, it later turns out she was also the same woman that trapped her in the loop. It plays well into the paradox discussions.
Max is the future Protagonist that went back to save his mom as Neil, so that they could live the timeline on together unobstructed by his father's insanity. That's my theory.