thank you for making this video. the CC translation was really good. Bottom line, the chinese replica is actually well made. titanium vs. stainless steel and 115g difference is negligible and the price difference is massive. $600 seems ridiculous for what SC is selling. Just because they associate themselves with MotoGP doesn't mean people should have to pay 5x more.
s/steel cheaper than titanium, plus the chinese didn't have to engineered or designed it, they just replicated it thus making the process easier and cheaper
@@noraslindajumri7337 those endcans have ZERO engineering in them. It's just a glasspack, something they came up with in the 70's or 80's I believe in USA... its just another super expensive straight through glasspack can, with cool design. But paying so much for just design and brand is nuts... The only reason to pay over 200 euro for a can is if it has to be RoadLegal with papers to come with it... SS is cheaper, but it aint a 100eu difference, hell, I dont think even 50eu... I do however dislike the chinese use the SC brand.
Thanks for making the video. I just purchased a full exhaust from China for $185.00. It's cheap and not titanium but it's going on an MT 07 not a rocket to mars.
Pouco mais de 100g de diferença. 3 mm de diferença nas medidas. Diferença de uma medida nos rebites. Ligeira diferença na tonalidade cinza nas letras e solda. 11 vezes mais barato (+ de 500€ de diferença) Se calhar os chineses agradecem e até vão partilhar este vídeo. Aquele abraço.
Pedro Santos Pironi Nesta ponteira a diferença é tão pouca que o vídeo só vem ajudar o pessoal a decidir pela réplica, na minha opinião de 50€ para 600€ a diferença de qualidade teria de ser muito maior para justificar comprar a original.
*It's like buying an Epiphone Hummingbird acoustic guitar for $400 VS $4,000 Gibson Hummingbird w/c sounds pretty much identical.* *It's your choice! but for me, OVERSPENDING isn't a good thing even if you can afford.*
Great video, helped me choose the knock off, and I hide the logo anyway. I just put the Chinese exhaust on my 2013 ducati monster 696. The sound is much deeper then stock, but also much louder. Almost to loud lol... Looks a thousand times better. Any one want to know more let me know.
Thanks for making this video. Have always been curious. Have 2 Austin Racing exhaust systems and just ordered an SC Project exhaust...(all authentic ones from Italy and the UK). Can't get myself to pay for the knockoffs. Can't beat the quality and customer service from the real companies.
@@dedelabinouze5110 Sounds like a employee to me. who cares how great they sound on the phone, they know your over spending of course they are gona be super friendly, at same time ali express has great service. lol who cares. GOod point thou
I totally agree with Brofessor . Bought one of these for my ktm superduke 1290 and it sounds amazing . Also the welding is done by robot and is perfect . The statement about the internal mesh is not being present is incorrect as anybody with eyes can see on the vid . Let's face it 600 dollars is a rip off for a titanium bean can . Don't believe the hype
Yarnoshke . You should not have any concerns . The replica has the same type of mesh as the sc one only difference is it's shiny on the replica. I have been running mine for over 1500 miles and it's absolutely perfect. Every person that's seen it cannot believe its fake and that includes 2 motorcycle mechanics.
Eu tambem gosto de ter uma coisa verdadeira de marca como deve ser, mas um bocado de tubo de 200mm a custar 600€, acho um exagero, tinha que dar pelo menos 20cv a mais que a ponteira xinoca.lol Com os 600€ consegue-se comprar a ponteira xinoca, filtro ar desportivo, velas iridium, repro, etc, se for comprar apenas a ponteira original a mota apenas fica a fazer barulho.
Percebo o que dizes, contudo esqueci-me de mencionar no video que os 600€ é pela ponteira e tubo de ligação full titanium. Tem muita qualidade mas admito que tambem se paga bem pela marca
Amigo eu sei que já tem mais de um ano o vídeo mas podias me dizer se é legal usar esse sc project crt nas ruas em portugal!? Tenho uma r6 e queria colocar
im an asian and it’s a normal thing to get a replica exhaust here since we got the market from china easily. btw im from malaysia😂✌🏽but still i can’t deny there are some people with good money can afford the originals, depends. if i ever got so much money i would buy original one also. in my country the original exhaust is so expensive.
Concordo, prefiro gastar mais um pouco e ter algo em condições :) O verdadeiro teste era no dinamometro, mas sei perfeitamente o quão dificil é...mas fica a ideia para quando fores afinar a tua mota :)
Obrigado pela explicação! Continuação de bom trabalho e mete essa bicha a bufar! Há pouco tempo vi uma CBR 1000RR igual à tua na Arca D'Agua acompanhada de uma R6 azul. Eras tu?
What language do you speak. There are some words that sound familiar in Spanish and English. I don’t even have to look at the subtitles and I can still understand what you’re saying some how.
Yarnoshke . Personally I think this exhaust suits the minimalist look of the Super Duke and it matches the colour of the original front section. The only options to alter the look of the rear are tail tidy rear hugger and the race seat cowl . Wouldn't buy the o.e.m seat cowl though as the fit is really poor with huge gaps under it.
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Drill out the rivets, repack with whatever you choose. New rivets.
That piece of can is not worth $600.. You can get a replica for $30-$60 and for the weight.. 100g is not that much.. Its fucking stupid what company's ask for a exhasut pipe with some mech inside.. Fuck that.. Nice Video still..
People are idiots spending all that money on exhaust....... it's become stupid. Yeah, like I'm gonna spend one thousand dollar more on the 'real' exhaust because it's 1.68 ounces lighter than the 'fake' one. It's the same shit, both produce ZERO horsepower. Keep feeding money into these stupid name brand exhaust manufacturers because you want to impress people or brag about it., they are laughing all the way to the bank making money off dumb consumers. $2 to make the 'real' exhaust, and sell it for $1,000. But hey, it's your money do what you want. Momma didn't raise no fool.
Pelo que vi e, a diferença de preço ser a anunciada, nesta ponteira em particular preferiria a pirata, Poderia depois acrescentar a rede e nova lã de vidro (e ate leva mais lã de vidro que a outra).
Hi man, can i ask you if there are any differences in performance? I read about big hp loss by the chinese one. Can you confirm me that? I want to buy the replica, because the original one is not very cheap😂 but i don't know... if it's real this big loss of power.. thank you in advance for the answer!
Dude the power increase or decrease is given mostly by the diameter of the exhaust and if u have or dont have a db killer. If the co2 gets out easier it increases the hp
pretty tough to beat the china knockoff for the Price...... they are getting better and better with their quality, and really on certain things it doesnt matter a ton....$60-$600 is huge difference for a titanium cylinder..... even stainless is fine for one that small........ cost of some, especilly the full systems are outrageous
I used a fake Yoshimura slip-on on my Ninja 300, sounds great and I already messed up with the AFR tuning & hi flow drop-in air filter . Runs great and I felt the gains in performance eventhought it's just a fake product .
Boas matias gostei muito do video, so uma coisa aparte nao sei os preços das outras marcas mas acho que por exemplo marcas como a twobrothers ou brocksperformance, yoshimura, graves motorsports, se calhar nao sao tao caras e teem uma boa qualidade.
I have the genuine SC Project on my bike and was fined $1000 by the traffic cops in my country. I bought the fake one and now my whole bike is in the police compound. Moral of the story, buy something that is Street Legal and with papers.
Poderia até optar pela "ponteira china" por uma questão de preço... andar com a marca é que me confunde... até porque, acaba por não ser uma SC Project, mas sim uma "XimXamSport". O grave é que daqui a uns anos aquilo passa por SC Project, é vendida assim ao próximo dono que depois diz que está com problemas na lã de vidro e que os SC não valem nada. Bad policy da SC pelo preço que colocam nos escapes, se antes 600€ por um Devil com toda a matéria prima que tinha, mão de obra e desenvolvimento era suportável, n vejo isso refletido nesta ponteira em concreto.
Na minha opiniao pelo preço Sao muito bem acabados .tenho un leovince replica e ja dura a 3 anos impecavel Som mais bonito que o leovince verdadeiro e mais potencia no dinamometro . Deu mais 5 cavalos.....e mesmo k nao desse nada a mais para mim e um roubo 600€ numa peça tao simbolica contra 30€/40€ no aliexpress....abraço
com 600€ compras 12x replicas e que eu acho até boas em inox a malta é que tira o silenciador depois queixam-se que da multa quanto aos 115 gr a mais não acho muito mas é a minha opinião !
Now i know theres a replica and im going to buy that
ahaha I expected that :)
I have the replica and it’s great.
I had the fugazi on my zx10r and it sounded titties
@@justinadams1213 Any problems? Discoloration or anything?
xKtF zero. It’s stainless steel like most slip ons. Design is identical. Sounds amazing. It’s just a bit heavier bc it’s not titanium
thank you for making this video. the CC translation was really good. Bottom line, the chinese replica is actually well made. titanium vs. stainless steel and 115g difference is negligible and the price difference is massive. $600 seems ridiculous for what SC is selling. Just because they associate themselves with MotoGP doesn't mean people should have to pay 5x more.
Thanks for watching and giving your opinion
I have the fake one and I think its really good
s/steel cheaper than titanium, plus the chinese didn't have to engineered or designed it, they just replicated it thus making the process easier and cheaper
@@noraslindajumri7337 those endcans have ZERO engineering in them. It's just a glasspack, something they came up with in the 70's or 80's I believe in USA... its just another super expensive straight through glasspack can, with cool design. But paying so much for just design and brand is nuts... The only reason to pay over 200 euro for a can is if it has to be RoadLegal with papers to come with it...
SS is cheaper, but it aint a 100eu difference, hell, I dont think even 50eu...
I do however dislike the chinese use the SC brand.
I agree don't pay any money for this company.
Plz make a video with sound of both mufflers to see the difference in sound.
Tried to do that video but both exhausts are to loud, can't really hear diferences
Yes do video with a good distance the sound could be better
so is there any difference in sound?
the difference is just from the material
Thanks for the subtitle
No problem
Thanks for making the video. I just purchased a full exhaust from China for $185.00. It's cheap and not titanium but it's going on an MT 07 not a rocket to mars.
Pouco mais de 100g de diferença. 3 mm de diferença nas medidas. Diferença de uma medida nos rebites. Ligeira diferença na tonalidade cinza nas letras e solda.
11 vezes mais barato (+ de 500€ de diferença)
Se calhar os chineses agradecem e até vão partilhar este vídeo.
Aquele abraço.
Pedro Santos Pironi Nesta ponteira a diferença é tão pouca que o vídeo só vem ajudar o pessoal a decidir pela réplica, na minha opinião de 50€ para 600€ a diferença de qualidade teria de ser muito maior para justificar comprar a original.
São gostos e opiniões, apenas dei a minha :)
Sim porque no final das contas o que a malta quer é som!
How is the sound comparison between the two?
I wish that would’ve been in this video!!
Great stuff, thank you
It probably sounded meaner than the original, 😂😂that’s why he didn’t do the sound comparison.🤘😎👌
Estava com algumas dúvidas se compraria a réplica ou nao...e este vídeo ajudou me que de facto compensa comprar a réplica,..obrigado
Im thankful that we have subtitles
Any sound or performance difference between the 2?
Somre sound, about the performance I can't tell you
@@mfpmatias thanks
Thanks for the video, very useful. Do you have a video with the sounds difference between original and replica?
They are both metal, but somehow one sounds metallic.
*It's like buying an Epiphone Hummingbird acoustic guitar for $400 VS $4,000 Gibson Hummingbird w/c sounds pretty much identical.*
*It's your choice! but for me, OVERSPENDING isn't a good thing even if you can afford.*
Great video, helped me choose the knock off, and I hide the logo anyway. I just put the Chinese exhaust on my 2013 ducati monster 696. The sound is much deeper then stock, but also much louder. Almost to loud lol... Looks a thousand times better. Any one want to know more let me know.
But a great video thank you for taking the time to do that and showing down the pipe and the inside.
Thanks for watching and comment ;)
ok where i can buy this fake exhaust?
Aliexpress, dhgate, ebay
Thanks for making this video. Have always been curious. Have 2 Austin Racing exhaust systems and just ordered an SC Project exhaust...(all authentic ones from Italy and the UK). Can't get myself to pay for the knockoffs. Can't beat the quality and customer service from the real companies.
550e more for customer service (why would you need that ?) and blue welds ? You do you i guess
*OVERSPENDING is a poor choice.. even if you can afford.*
@@dedelabinouze5110 Sounds like a employee to me. who cares how great they sound on the phone, they know your over spending of course they are gona be super friendly, at same time ali express has great service. lol who cares. GOod point thou
ainda não vi o vídeo mas pelo thumbnail, dá para ver perfeitamente que são os 2 fake!
já comunicamos melhor!
Hey! Did you ever try it on a bike, too see how it´s sound? How did you get the fake SC-project pip? where did you buy it?
It's from a friend, I will ask him
hello you can put the link of where you bought it thanks
I totally agree with Brofessor . Bought one of these for my ktm superduke 1290 and it sounds amazing . Also the welding is done by robot and is perfect . The statement about the internal mesh is not being present is incorrect as anybody with eyes can see on the vid . Let's face it 600 dollars is a rip off for a titanium bean can . Don't believe the hype
Thanks for your opinion :)
If I was still concerned about the interior mesh what can I do?
Yarnoshke . You should not have any concerns . The replica has the same type of mesh as the sc one only difference is it's shiny on the replica. I have been running mine for over 1500 miles and it's absolutely perfect. Every person that's seen it cannot believe its fake and that includes 2 motorcycle mechanics.
@@darrenbutler160 thank you!
@@darrenbutler160 Any suggestions to make the rear look better? The rear doesn't look like it suits the muffler style. Sound is GREAT
Eu tambem gosto de ter uma coisa verdadeira de marca como deve ser, mas um bocado de tubo de 200mm a custar 600€, acho um exagero, tinha que dar pelo menos 20cv a mais que a ponteira xinoca.lol
Com os 600€ consegue-se comprar a ponteira xinoca, filtro ar desportivo, velas iridium, repro, etc, se for comprar apenas a ponteira original a mota apenas fica a fazer barulho.
Percebo o que dizes, contudo esqueci-me de mencionar no video que os 600€ é pela ponteira e tubo de ligação full titanium. Tem muita qualidade mas admito que tambem se paga bem pela marca
Amigo eu sei que já tem mais de um ano o vídeo mas podias me dizer se é legal usar esse sc project crt nas ruas em portugal!? Tenho uma r6 e queria colocar
i use fake sc project china
quality for long term? , its not too bad
but original is more better looks n quality
for sound, almost no different
Thanks for your feedback
From Where to buy the original one.?
Sound test?????
inside of both can look the same. steel net over glass wool
Where To buy original exhaust????
Sound test video replica and original?
This is anonymous. He just found a bike parked and videoed next to it.
im an asian and it’s a normal thing to get a replica exhaust here since we got the market from china easily. btw im from malaysia😂✌🏽but still i can’t deny there are some people with good money can afford the originals, depends. if i ever got so much money i would buy original one also. in my country the original exhaust is so expensive.
Concordo, prefiro gastar mais um pouco e ter algo em condições :)
O verdadeiro teste era no dinamometro, mas sei perfeitamente o quão dificil é...mas fica a ideia para quando fores afinar a tua mota :)
Sim era interessante
No dyno o mais provavel é dar os mesmos valores, ou então uma coisa mesmo minima que nem se nota na estrada.
Podias ter feito o sound test entre os dois , fiquei curioso.
Abraço!
Praticamente igual, a replica é ligeiramente mais "metalica" o som
A diferenca é tao pouca que nao se percebe em video
Obrigado pela explicação!
Continuação de bom trabalho e mete essa bicha a bufar!
Há pouco tempo vi uma CBR 1000RR igual à tua na Arca D'Agua acompanhada de uma R6 azul. Eras tu?
de nada! Nop, não era eu
É q és ganda gay ohh elemental
Thanks for the video, may i ask something about the cc? Same axhaust different cc?
Cc is given by the engine and has nothing to do with the exhaust
What language do you speak. There are some words that sound familiar in Spanish and English. I don’t even have to look at the subtitles and I can still understand what you’re saying some how.
ill buy the ebay for budget wise.
Bonjour niveau performance avait vous passer la moto sur un banc de puissance avec les deux silencieux merci
e pena no video nao ter colocado as ponteiras na mota para ouvir a diferença do som. Obrigado pelo vídeo.
STAINLESS STEEL MESH OVER GLASS WOOL LOOKED SAME ON BOTH ??
Can you make a video compares original and fake one’s exhaust sound?? Thank you.
Tried to do that video but both exhausts are to loud, can't really hear diferences
where is the sound difference
Does anyone have a suggestion for how to fix that glass wool burning problem he addressed?
Yarnoshke . Personally I think this exhaust suits the minimalist look of the Super Duke and it matches the colour of the original front section. The only options to alter the look of the rear are tail tidy rear hugger and the race seat cowl . Wouldn't buy the o.e.m seat cowl though as the fit is really poor with huge gaps under it.
Drill out the rivets, repack with whatever you choose.
New rivets.
where did you buy the replica and how múch did you paid?
Johan Schröder the replicas are like $40 on eBay w/ free shipping. Well worth it. Already bought me one 😂
That piece of can is not worth $600.. You can get a replica for $30-$60 and for the weight.. 100g is not that much.. Its fucking stupid what company's ask for a exhasut pipe with some mech inside.. Fuck that.. Nice Video still..
I’ve had both .. at that price point, replica has the most bang for the buck!!
How do they compare on sound 🤷🏻♂️ it’s really why we buy them ....
todas as minhas são réplicas e sao excelentes e tem Titanium tbm é excelente
onde posso comprar escapes replica?
Ebay
u should show us the sounds
They sound identical
sound? power difference on bike?
Same sound, about the power don't know but I think the difference will be minimal
In detail explanation but missed to show the sound quality
Thanks bro! Super clear demonstration of the differences between the two. Good advice too.
I would have loved a sound comparison
You cant tell a difference. They sound identical
i have the replica and its seems okay.
People are idiots spending all that money on exhaust....... it's become stupid. Yeah, like I'm gonna spend one thousand dollar more on the 'real' exhaust because it's 1.68 ounces lighter than the 'fake' one. It's the same shit, both produce ZERO horsepower. Keep feeding money into these stupid name brand exhaust manufacturers because you want to impress people or brag about it., they are laughing all the way to the bank making money off dumb consumers. $2 to make the 'real' exhaust, and sell it for $1,000. But hey, it's your money do what you want. Momma didn't raise no fool.
Onde comprar o SC project original ?
No site deles www.scproject-shop.com/?lang=2
$600 or $50 dollars , I can purchase 12 replicas and use the hell out them Lol😝
Pelo que vi e, a diferença de preço ser a anunciada, nesta ponteira em particular preferiria a pirata, Poderia depois acrescentar a rede e nova lã de vidro (e ate leva mais lã de vidro que a outra).
Sim, contudo os 600e inclui o link pipe em Ti
Love the out takes at the end 😂😂😂
THANKS 🙏 THERES A REPLICA 🇵🇭
É a mesma coisa, só muda o preço 😅
Why does the replica look better than the original 😂😅
Most of people can't see the differences, including me. Thank you very much
;)
Hi man, can i ask you if there are any differences in performance? I read about big hp loss by the chinese one. Can you confirm me that? I want to buy the replica, because the original one is not very cheap😂 but i don't know... if it's real this big loss of power.. thank you in advance for the answer!
I would like to help you but i didn't ride with the "fake" one, I believe that the performance is close but with less quality
Dude the power increase or decrease is given mostly by the diameter of the exhaust and if u have or dont have a db killer. If the co2 gets out easier it increases the hp
Para a diferença de preço, sem dúvida que compensa a réplica..... O dinheiro da original da para começar para comprar 20 réplicas...
pretty tough to beat the china knockoff for the Price...... they are getting better and better with their quality, and really on certain things it doesnt matter a ton....$60-$600 is huge difference for a titanium cylinder..... even stainless is fine for one that small........ cost of some, especilly the full systems are outrageous
Cadê os gráficos?. Quero ver curva de potência e torque do dinamometro
Thank you very much BROTHER!!!!
But sounds about same right?
Yes... Same sound
yes
el sc project original ¿cual es su precio real?
saludos desde Perú.
existe replica Titanium também, e os valores é que é o grande diferente
Good video
Thanks!
a fake custa 10% do valor da original , entaum esta ok né ?! não pode exigir muito.
Really good explanation !
Thanks!
Essas réplicas são homolgadas?
Nop
Nem a original é homologada, é só para andar em circuito privado, diz mesmo na ponteira.
Bota agua!!
Estavam com sede era ;D
60ml ! siga!
Where is the difference of sound?
Buy link
Vídeo muito bom, mais um inscrito
Y el sonido de ambos?
Até acho que o fake com a letra mais escura fica mais bonito (pelo menos na camara, ao vivo deve ficar mais bonito o original)
Ya
Jadi lu irang Indo apa luar
I used a fake Yoshimura slip-on on my Ninja 300, sounds great and I already messed up with the AFR tuning & hi flow drop-in air filter . Runs great and I felt the gains in performance eventhought it's just a fake product .
dia tak tengok ekzos purbalingga lagi...huhu
Gracias amigo,saludos desde chile hermano!
Gracias :D
Grande Marco megahertz.
Bons tempos os do Supermoto Portugal ;)
Obrigado! bons tempos mesmo
Vê se n te enganas e metes a replica na tua mota.
LOL
Boas matias gostei muito do video, so uma coisa aparte nao sei os preços das outras marcas mas acho que por exemplo marcas como a twobrothers ou brocksperformance, yoshimura, graves motorsports, se calhar nao sao tao caras e teem uma boa qualidade.
Viva, infelizmente as marcas que deste como exemplo ronda tudo a mesma coisa ou até mais caras!
No china
Buen video gracias .🏍😀
Nombre de la cancion???? De intro
Jetta - I'd Love to Change the World (Matstubs Remix)
Gracias , buen video
I have the genuine SC Project on my bike and was fined $1000 by the traffic cops in my country. I bought the fake one and now my whole bike is in the police compound. Moral of the story, buy something that is Street Legal and with papers.
That sucks :(
Poderia até optar pela "ponteira china" por uma questão de preço... andar com a marca é que me confunde... até porque, acaba por não ser uma SC Project, mas sim uma "XimXamSport". O grave é que daqui a uns anos aquilo passa por SC Project, é vendida assim ao próximo dono que depois diz que está com problemas na lã de vidro e que os SC não valem nada. Bad policy da SC pelo preço que colocam nos escapes, se antes 600€ por um Devil com toda a matéria prima que tinha, mão de obra e desenvolvimento era suportável, n vejo isso refletido nesta ponteira em concreto.
Obrigado pela tua opinião, concordo contigo
Na minha opiniao pelo preço Sao muito bem acabados .tenho un leovince replica e ja dura a 3 anos impecavel Som mais bonito que o leovince verdadeiro e mais potencia no dinamometro . Deu mais 5 cavalos.....e mesmo k nao desse nada a mais para mim e um roubo 600€ numa peça tao simbolica contra 30€/40€ no aliexpress....abraço
Certo, obviamente que existe replicas e replicas, contudo tenho que concordar que o valor 600€ é alto
com 600€ compras 12x replicas e que eu acho até boas em inox a malta é que tira o silenciador depois queixam-se que da multa quanto aos 115 gr a mais não acho muito mas é a minha opinião !
este video me hizo que no compre replica, voy a esperar y comprar original.
Ainda são algumas diferenças.
Forte abraço e boas curvas
Obrigado!
Obrigado pela dica 👏😁
Eu tenho da akrapovic e nao mudou nada a minha moto ta com som muito top e fais tempo q tenho q numca deu nada ta tudo normal
;)
Caraio, coloquei a réplica
Matias, ficava fixe teres colocado para ver a diferença de som que faz..
A diferente do som é praticamente igual, a replica é ligeiramente mais "metalica" não coloquei no vídeo pois não dá para entender a diferença
Awesome!!!!
❤Replika sc💥💣