This is the best punk drum video I’ve seen. The reason being, you clearly explain the best methods for simple punk beats and clearly show the cheaters. Being a 15 year + mediocre punk drummer I get baffled by drummers playing for major bands that cheat on their stroke especially the snare high hat hit. It’s super annoying. Well done sir.
Haha, It's all about the end sound. I honestly don't care when people "cheat". It's more the people who brag about how good or fast they are when they are hitting half the notes. Drumming isn't a competition though. This is just the way I was taught how to play so I don't know any better.
Whats funny is when people are amazed you can play fast with a single pedal 😂. Play melodic and pop punk all with a single pedal and I've never used a double probably because i come from the generation (I'm 44)where double pedals were for metal bands. I play a Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide with either a Slug or Lowboy beater, i have a medium spring tension with a moderately loose kick head. What funny is he mentioned "socks or shoes" and every so often I have to change the style of Vans i okay in because for sone reason it starts to feel different. I used to use these Vans that are called "Surf" which were real lite and i could feel my pedal but then they became too light and i wasn't getting the punch i wanted so i changed to my Authentic Vans and they were still lite enough for feel but they gave me some more power and then one day I played in my Old Skools and they felt really good, I could play just as fast but with more power behind my pedal but what's funny is its on 1 or 2 pair that feel that way.
The way you explain this is amazing and the practice beats for learning the slide kick is super helpful man. 33 yr old dude learning to play and that was great!
Nice dude. You're totally right. I saw this and thought, I can't play that beat yet but the fact that I can play Just Like Heaven means I can totally play that beat!!
Good video, I started drumming about 10 years ago and stopped for a long time but recently I decided to pick up the sticks and join a band. I learned heel toe the other day and got it down so I've been working on faster beats. Definitely trying to get away from halftime hands so this will help.
Sounds like a highly skilled drummer from the modern jazzrock school is emulating super clean simple high speed rhythms. Needs more dirt, anger and over the edge, unpropper, chaotic, but totally fitting to the intelligent lyrics drums, to be something like punk. Check out the „Blocked out“ video by RKL for correct examples of great punk drumming.
I've played in several punk bands over the years. Sorry my drumming was too clean for your taste. haha. I'll try to be more unproper and sloppy in future videos when playing punk music.
Man that fast punk beat used to give me anxiety as a kid when I'd be playing along to nufan or nofx, because I knew I'd tire out by the chorus. I wish I had this reference when I was younger.
@@beyondbetrayal yeah I only had a single pedal as well, granted I was like 9-10 years old at the time, but I had about a good 45 seconds to a minute in me before I exhausted myself out by using the wrong technique. I used to get so pissed watching the drummer from mxpx just keep that beat up for 3 minutes straight, and not even break a sweat. I knew I was missing something, but unfortunately I didn't have the luxury to go to the internet and learn the right way from your videos. Great channel man, been watching a bunch since I subbed about a week ago.
due to the speed and the fills you did in the beginning really reminded me of crossover bands like Iron Reagan and Municipal Waste (and maybe Lich King)
Hahaha i know what you mean. Most people only use punk and thrash. Great video though basic are really important when it comes to fast genres like these. I'm currently helping a friend who wants to get into drumming and i referred him to your videos. He seems to be progressing really quickly :D
thank you for saying heel up .I've heard fools on here talking about heel toe and I'm like what?. lol ✊ I feel like sliding on the ball of your foot is the way to get consistent sounding stroke
Pennywise, NOFX, Guttermouth, No Fun At All, Millencolin, Lagwagon, Pulley, Ten Foot Pole, Good Riddance, Frenzal Rhomb, Pridebowl, Unwritten Law, Body jar, Strung out....the list goes on..I'm living in the 90's.
The 90's continue to roll on thankfully! All except for Good Riddance, Unwritten Law and maybe NFAT (pridebowl, sorry don't know them)have released new material within the last 5 year's. Bodyjar just released their new album only a few weeks ago actually. In fact I'd make an argument that bodyjar released their best work ever in '13 with Role Model. Then in '14, Lagwagon dropped their Magnum Opus in '14 with the masterpiece, Hang. I know no one asked but here's a few bands that any fans of the above should enjoy(well at least one of them!) Off with their heads ....red city radio ....makewar .....drug church .....dead to me ..... fake names ..... Jim Ward 'daggars' is fkn awesome as is the recent Sparta album 'trust the river' ....dear landlord .....ways away.......and I'll shut the fuck up now. Peace out cunts👍
@@stevek7760 fk, you're quick dude! But of course you are, you're a Stevo....takes a Stevo to know a Stevo 🤛 there's a bit of everything in there mate, from post hardcore/ hardcore/alternative/punk which if you take a bit of each and throw it in a crack pipe you and up with Drug Church, who are fkn awesome. Fake Names is a bit of a supergroup, Brian Baker and the dude..his name escapes me....from S.O.A and Dennis Lyxzen from Refused. Jim Ward, obviously from At The Drive In Fame and subsequently Sparta....who I always preferred over The Mars Volta. Criminally underrated/underappreciated imo if his Spotify monthly listener numbers are anything to go from. He's cool asf tho and is happy doing what he's doing, which is writing a damn good tune. Dear Landlord, another kinda supergroup, sadly the singer is in jail for murder. Not 'normal' murder as such, but some crazy American state law, which if you score drugs for someone and they die, you can get charged with murder. Ways Away....it's got Serge from Samiam, another 'supergroup'. Not skate punk, not hardcore, not pop punk, not even punk, it's actually, classic post industrial atmospheric bubble gum contemporary pop jazz....my personal favourite genre. It's got melody's, hooks, great vocals, emotion, riffs, harmonies, retrospective analysis and is just fucking solid. One of my personal favs from 2020 and listened to it over and over. Anyway Stevo, I'm high as a fucking kite. You have better things to do, like listen to some new shit, rather than read this nimrods random dribbles. Legit, I hope you find something in there that rocks your world or at least maybe brightens your day for half an hour. Always have time for one of us fossils from the golden era. Actually seen all those bands you listed live, some more than half a dozen. I actually obliterated one of the bands drumkit when I got excited at a gig and just launched myself into it lol. Lucky it was was like the 2nd or 3rd last songs. Also, it's lucky they were cool about, drummer went flying on his arse, I was so apologetic but the drummer was like, 'nah bro, that was fucking cool, I just seen ya come flying out of nowhere and thought fuck, I better hold on here'. Bodyjar @ The Barwon Club 2003.....nice dudes.. 🤛
I used to play like that alot. Hitting like a monster and moving around. I also used to break sticks and cymbals often haha. Rarely break a stick or a cymbal anymore. Playing death metal for years at 240+ BPM with blasts and double kick taught me that you have to relax to play fast. Drums are only so loud and its diminishing returns after a point too. I get into it from time to time, but conserving energy is needed to jam death metal for a few hours, or even rippin punk.
A thing to be careful for with the double pedal, I find myself if I dont take it away I end up falling into playing metalcore type stuff weirdly enough
I agree. I used to use only a single until I joined my metal band. I got into playing with a single pedal in this video. I shouldn't have started on the double.... One thing that is fun is to play ONLY with the left foot though.
@@beyondbetrayal definitely true, it was never an issue for me in my djent days but now that im playing in a sloppy punk band I just end up leaning on it so much, single pedal ftw!
I need that mixer. I don't already owe guitar Center enough money for the next 2 years...LOVE moving lights, please see my drum videos. Anything that doesn't walk away from me has moving lights on it. Even the dog, so I was wrong...lol
It's a great mixer. Has multiple outputs and mixes so everyone in the band can hear what they want if we all plug in. With a set of IEM's makes for pretty fun practice jamming to tunes.
Help. My right hand is synchronised with my right foot. Everytime I want to do a double bass kick, I automatically hit the hi-hat again. What can I do?
Try working on alternating 16ths notes with right hand and left foot for a while.. like hats, kick, hats, kick hitting the snare on 2 and 4. or try 16th notes on just the right foot with 1/8 notes on the right hand. also. Write out what you are playing on a piece of paper and play SLOW. most issues are from speeding up too fast.
Hey man, cool video, solid drumming. I was wondering two things ... One, do you use a drop clutch at all for when you're doing it with two feet? And two, what is your pedal tension like?
I used to use a drop clutch for metal sometimes, now i'd have 2 hats, one open a bit and one closed.. I usually use a single for most of my punk stuff and double just sometimes. As far as tension, I like a tighter head and medium pedal. the looser the head, the tighter the pedal.
@@fbeegle A bit, I mean, if you just want to drop them to semi closed for a bit they work good.. then stomp the pedal to get em up.. I liked the idea of them more than I actually used it though
@@beyondbetrayal it'd be ideal just have your one foot doubles so solid that you don't need it, but I can imagine that takes quite a few hours of grinding away at it.
Check us out. Our name is In 2 Months, we just finished recording our second CD. melodicpunkrecords.bandcamp.com/track/in-2-months-cast-away (not really mixed yet)
I've seen so many metal drummers miss the beats out when they play live, its so lazy. I understand if you're talking about timing, so the guitarist can hear the hi-hat, but its just laziness and poor technique. A lot of 'core' drummers seem to be guilty of this when they play.
Hahaha, I taught to play it right very young so there is no other way to me :P. There is a time and place for it here and there if you want to change the pulse to 1/4 notes, or sometimes accent a few spots. I'll half time it and move to the crash as an accent for a bar here and there. I only recently heard the term "cheater punk" and it made me laugh. It's the classic, "oh my band plays really fast at XXX BPM".... Then you watch them and wonder why the guitars aren't down picking a single thing and the drummer is playing half the notes. haha
Here's a secret NO sound or recording engineer wants you to know: They have the mix divided up at the board. So you can put more hat anywhere, in ANY monitor or headphone mix. No engineer wants to play games with that all day long (drums can have a lot of channels) so they literally don't tell you the mix is subdivided :) Studio, they give you a tiny mixer box to plug into where drums would have to be premixed to make it fit in the channels allotted.
@@beyondbetrayal Sure, everyone should play what feels good for them. I am all for that. But that doesn't mean that the beat is still called a d-beat. What is otherwise the use of naming something if people use it to describe something other then where the name was made for?
I do like to add, cause that wasn't vibrating from my other comments, that this video is really useful though. Especially for beginning players, or like me, drummers that were very 1 dimensional (for me obviously the d-beat), and like to broaden their repertoire. So thank you for that!
Yep same. I had 2 drum lessons. When the teacher asked me to play him some songs I wanted to learn I played NOFX and Ten Foot Pole off Punkorama 1. He couldn't play either of them, but he did show me a weird trick where you hit the bass petal with the heel/side of your foot and roll it up to the ball to get that quick double hit. I can do it without that now, but that led me into eventually into being able to do it properly. Anyway, cool video! I wish I'd had it back in the 90's!
All of my cymbals are Sabian. My crashes are all in the HHX line. HHX-Xtreme, HHX-plosion HHX Evolution are 3 that I have used in these videos. I have a Holy china and an AAX Metal ride. I have the Xcelerator hats too. They are super loud.
I guess the years of metal I have played have caused that. If you watch further I switch to single pedal playing. I play in a punk band called In 2 Months. We are pretty fast skate punk.
beyondbetrayal hellyaa..that was a cool vid,ya got skills dude.check out a cool canadian punk band called the Nunfuckers.album is Dead and on the floor.
Awesome. This reminds me of some of the bands I was into back in the 90s in Brandon Mb. We had a pretty good punk/hardcore scene for a small town back then.
beyondbetrayal hellyaa man even tho they only made one album,there one of my favs..the drummer really makes the Nunfuckers to me...fast powerful attitude and hella accurate.
Curious to see if Steve Blank a guy I know drumming 50 years could tell. Got an amazing ear for drums. (TightSqueeze Jam on FB, so as not to hijack the post)
Some people SAY they can, but to be honest, if timing and dynamics are perfect it should be the same. The reason is most people are not perfect so you can tell slightly. It is a lot easier to use a double that's for sure. And I am not an elitist punk rocker so I don't really care. I can play it both ways, but why not do the easier one if the pedal is there. I'll switch to single when I want to work the hats a bit.
Your practice sounded like you were about to break into You could be mine. Double bass drums is not punk. May as well admit defeat and join a metal band. Apart from that I enjoyed it.
I do single doubles as well .. Played in a punk band for years on a single kick..... I do it in the video too... I also play in a death metal band so. there's that too. haha. I'm not trying to be "punk" .. just making music. If there is 2 ways to do something that sounds the same there really isn't anything COOL about choosing one over the other. if I have a double pedal in front of me why not use it.. But every genera has their elitists so maybe you should open your own channel with some videos.
beyondbetrayal I saw. If everyone starts playing double pedal punk will die out as it did before Nirvana, not getting into that today, NOFX, Pennywise, Offspring etc. I just don't want to see that happen and maybe I am a purist for that reason but I remember when it was Bad Religion and your only other choice was a 1001 hairy metal bands. I joined a metal band briefly and even bought a double bass pedal but then I got asked to join a progressive band playing in 7/8, 9/8, 5/4, 6/8 etc and the opportunity was too good to resist. I have no interest in starting my own channel. I enjoy watching others' and making the odd comment, even if it isn't to everyone's liking :)
It's all good man. I understand where you are coming from. I was in 2 punk bands that I only used a single pedal many years back. I still go back and forth and have done some punk covers using one foot. Prog is great, I love playing in odd time too.. The years being in a death metal band has taught me to conserve energy where as punk was just a "go for it" kindof thing. I have to save every ounce of energy for double kick and blasts so technique matters much more these days. I grew up on all the punk bands you listed. Punk will never die out.. It all goes in waves
beyondbetrayal Cool beans geezer Thanks I didn't used to it was punk through and through but reached a point where I wasn't improving so started taking lessons with a professional reading sheet music improving my technique etc which is how I was able to teach later. I started to listen to different types of music Yes, Genesis etc and I had a bit of a reputation locally but started to have more finesse so studio musicians started to seek me out rather than those just looking for a DH Peligro clone who I absolutely loved. I went from completely go for it, I know what you mean, to playing the music and leaving things out rather than putting everything in. I started to sit it on jazz jam sessions as the teacher introduced me to people like Elvin Jones. I only played in one band like that but it wasn't for me. Early Metallica and Megadeth is as heavy as I go. I still appreciate Nick Menza though. I definitely agree on technique which is why I started taking lessons to improve mine. It seems that way now but before Nirvana opened the gates BR were around but The Clash had gone, Operation Ivy had gone, The Ramones were resting. Hard to believe now but growing up I was the only single bass drum player I knew because everyone was emulating Testament or Exodus etc. Punk is strong now but it wasn't always so but definitely sounds better with a single bass drum. I much prefer the sound of Byron McMackin to some of these heavier double bass drummers but just a personal preference. I hope you are right but noticed on the festival scene very few punk bands this year whereas in years gone by there was a punk stage. Also this year more rappers instead of proper musicians so once again I have concerns. There is a positive though as means the little club I attend gets bands like NOFX, Less than Jake, Dead Kennedys, The Damned on the bill and that is just for starters.
deBidi first. Watch my videos on slide and my punk covers and you can see I can play single pedal. Second. It all sounds the same. Unless your an elitist "punk" which is a total oxy moron it really doesn't matter. It sounds the same in the end. Also. Maybe try watching the entire video next time too buddy. It's mostly done on a single
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The "cheater" beat is the foundation of a blast beat!
This is the best punk drum video I’ve seen. The reason being, you clearly explain the best methods for simple punk beats and clearly show the cheaters. Being a 15 year + mediocre punk drummer I get baffled by drummers playing for major bands that cheat on their stroke especially the snare high hat hit. It’s super annoying. Well done sir.
Haha, It's all about the end sound. I honestly don't care when people "cheat". It's more the people who brag about how good or fast they are when they are hitting half the notes. Drumming isn't a competition though. This is just the way I was taught how to play so I don't know any better.
Whats funny is when people are amazed you can play fast with a single pedal 😂. Play melodic and pop punk all with a single pedal and I've never used a double probably because i come from the generation (I'm 44)where double pedals were for metal bands. I play a Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide with either a Slug or Lowboy beater, i have a medium spring tension with a moderately loose kick head. What funny is he mentioned "socks or shoes" and every so often I have to change the style of Vans i okay in because for sone reason it starts to feel different. I used to use these Vans that are called "Surf" which were real lite and i could feel my pedal but then they became too light and i wasn't getting the punch i wanted so i changed to my Authentic Vans and they were still lite enough for feel but they gave me some more power and then one day I played in my Old Skools and they felt really good, I could play just as fast but with more power behind my pedal but what's funny is its on 1 or 2 pair that feel that way.
5 years old but still super helpful for a beginner. Thanks
Happy it helped!
All these beats are what I learned when I got into drums...sad thing is 20 years later and i'm not much better haha
cool tips dude I just landed my first gig and this really helped
Happy to help buddy!
For fast punk drumming, I highly recommend Lagwagon and RKL.
Lagwagon are greate
fuck yeah RKL was full of talent
The way you explain this is amazing and the practice beats for learning the slide kick is super helpful man. 33 yr old dude learning to play and that was great!
Thank you! Sounds awesome
Thanks for watching
I feel like I just learned every Misfits song.
None of the drummers they have use these kinds of beats. It's even more straight forward than this on Misfits songs
Misfits uses the classic Ramones-style beats for the most part.
Lauren m is right
graves era
to the contrary it feels like I learned every skate punk and hc punk song
The misfits didnt use these
1:38 sounds like the drums to just like heaven, pretty much the same pattern if the high hats are on the 1/8 instead
Nice dude. You're totally right. I saw this and thought, I can't play that beat yet but the fact that I can play Just Like Heaven means I can totally play that beat!!
Good video, I started drumming about 10 years ago and stopped for a long time but recently I decided to pick up the sticks and join a band. I learned heel toe the other day and got it down so I've been working on faster beats. Definitely trying to get away from halftime hands so this will help.
That's awesome!
Sounds like a highly skilled drummer from the modern jazzrock school is emulating super clean simple high speed rhythms. Needs more dirt, anger and over the edge, unpropper, chaotic, but totally fitting to the intelligent lyrics drums, to be something like punk. Check out the „Blocked out“ video by RKL for correct examples of great punk drumming.
I've played in several punk bands over the years. Sorry my drumming was too clean for your taste. haha. I'll try to be more unproper and sloppy in future videos when playing punk music.
This video is awesome. You are awesome. I hope you have an awesome day.
Thanks for watching.
Man that fast punk beat used to give me anxiety as a kid when I'd be playing along to nufan or nofx, because I knew I'd tire out by the chorus. I wish I had this reference when I was younger.
@@patmccrotch5373 haha I grew up on a single pedal as a NOFX and nufan fan. Did a lot of slide technique back then.
@@beyondbetrayal yeah I only had a single pedal as well, granted I was like 9-10 years old at the time, but I had about a good 45 seconds to a minute in me before I exhausted myself out by using the wrong technique. I used to get so pissed watching the drummer from mxpx just keep that beat up for 3 minutes straight, and not even break a sweat. I knew I was missing something, but unfortunately I didn't have the luxury to go to the internet and learn the right way from your videos. Great channel man, been watching a bunch since I subbed about a week ago.
i would consider this more like a crossover drums tutorial
What do you mean?
due to the speed and the fills you did in the beginning really reminded me of crossover bands like Iron Reagan and Municipal Waste (and maybe Lich King)
Ahh. I see. I just don't hear the term "crossover" much. :)
Hahaha i know what you mean. Most people only use punk and thrash. Great video though basic are really important when it comes to fast genres like these. I'm currently helping a friend who wants to get into drumming and i referred him to your videos. He seems to be progressing really quickly :D
Awesome.. Feel free to request anything if he wants something specific.
thank you for saying heel up .I've heard fools on here talking about heel toe and I'm like what?. lol ✊ I feel like sliding on the ball of your foot is the way to get consistent sounding stroke
No problem. Heel toe isn't even "heel toe" but I have some videos on how to do that too
Great presentation. Smooth superb drumming.
Pennywise, NOFX, Guttermouth, No Fun At All, Millencolin, Lagwagon, Pulley, Ten Foot Pole, Good Riddance, Frenzal Rhomb, Pridebowl, Unwritten Law, Body jar, Strung out....the list goes on..I'm living in the 90's.
Best era for punk!
The 90's continue to roll on thankfully! All except for Good Riddance, Unwritten Law and maybe NFAT (pridebowl, sorry don't know them)have released new material within the last 5 year's. Bodyjar just released their new album only a few weeks ago actually. In fact I'd make an argument that bodyjar released their best work ever in '13 with Role Model. Then in '14, Lagwagon dropped their Magnum Opus in '14 with the masterpiece, Hang.
I know no one asked but here's a few bands that any fans of the above should enjoy(well at least one of them!)
Off with their heads ....red city radio ....makewar .....drug church .....dead to me ..... fake names ..... Jim Ward 'daggars' is fkn awesome as is the recent Sparta album 'trust the river' ....dear landlord .....ways away.......and I'll shut the fuck up now. Peace out cunts👍
@@yeahnah7220 fuck yeah man! Cheers for that, I'll check 'em out!
@@stevek7760 fk, you're quick dude! But of course you are, you're a Stevo....takes a Stevo to know a Stevo 🤛 there's a bit of everything in there mate, from post hardcore/ hardcore/alternative/punk which if you take a bit of each and throw it in a crack pipe you and up with Drug Church, who are fkn awesome.
Fake Names is a bit of a supergroup, Brian Baker and the dude..his name escapes me....from S.O.A and Dennis Lyxzen from Refused.
Jim Ward, obviously from At The Drive In Fame and subsequently Sparta....who I always preferred over The Mars Volta. Criminally underrated/underappreciated imo if his Spotify monthly listener numbers are anything to go from. He's cool asf tho and is happy doing what he's doing, which is writing a damn good tune.
Dear Landlord, another kinda supergroup, sadly the singer is in jail for murder. Not 'normal' murder as such, but some crazy American state law, which if you score drugs for someone and they die, you can get charged with murder.
Ways Away....it's got Serge from Samiam, another 'supergroup'. Not skate punk, not hardcore, not pop punk, not even punk, it's actually, classic post industrial atmospheric bubble gum contemporary pop jazz....my personal favourite genre. It's got melody's, hooks, great vocals, emotion, riffs, harmonies, retrospective analysis and is just fucking solid. One of my personal favs from 2020 and listened to it over and over.
Anyway Stevo, I'm high as a fucking kite. You have better things to do, like listen to some new shit, rather than read this nimrods random dribbles. Legit, I hope you find something in there that rocks your world or at least maybe brightens your day for half an hour. Always have time for one of us fossils from the golden era. Actually seen all those bands you listed live, some more than half a dozen. I actually obliterated one of the bands drumkit when I got excited at a gig and just launched myself into it lol. Lucky it was was like the 2nd or 3rd last songs. Also, it's lucky they were cool about, drummer went flying on his arse, I was so apologetic but the drummer was like, 'nah bro, that was fucking cool, I just seen ya come flying out of nowhere and thought fuck, I better hold on here'. Bodyjar @ The Barwon Club 2003.....nice dudes..
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@@yeahnah7220 Wow man..... fkn dedicated 👌 Love it. Haha that Bodyjar drumkit story is a classic!
1:49 there's something stickin in my eeeeeyyyee
This was SO helpful, thank you! I have really been struggling with punk grooves
hope it helps man.. let me know if you have any lesson requests in the future.. i have a few videos on the slide double for one foot too.
Good 👌
Thanks
Cool! Thanks for this motivational video :)
Thanks for watching :)
Good video and I hate punk, lol
Your control and how you stay relaxed is fucking amazing. Im very inefficent and tired easy. Too much emotion in the way I play.
I used to play like that alot. Hitting like a monster and moving around. I also used to break sticks and cymbals often haha. Rarely break a stick or a cymbal anymore. Playing death metal for years at 240+ BPM with blasts and double kick taught me that you have to relax to play fast. Drums are only so loud and its diminishing returns after a point too. I get into it from time to time, but conserving energy is needed to jam death metal for a few hours, or even rippin punk.
Oi! Nice chops! Always good videos much appreciated sir :)
Thanks man. I've been slacking so I plan on making a bunch in the next bit!
going to practice when I get home. great video
Thanks :)
Same same over here
A thing to be careful for with the double pedal, I find myself if I dont take it away I end up falling into playing metalcore type stuff weirdly enough
I agree. I used to use only a single until I joined my metal band. I got into playing with a single pedal in this video. I shouldn't have started on the double.... One thing that is fun is to play ONLY with the left foot though.
@@beyondbetrayal definitely true, it was never an issue for me in my djent days but now that im playing in a sloppy punk band I just end up leaning on it so much, single pedal ftw!
I’m a guitarist... why am I here...
Great! Thanks!
you rock brother!
As someone who has learned keys, guitar, bass, etc. drums is the hardest to learn.
Not harder for me, just different. I dabble in guitar, but I found it more difficult in the beginning
Nice one!
I feel fine
I need that mixer. I don't already owe guitar Center enough money for the next 2 years...LOVE moving lights, please see my drum videos. Anything that doesn't walk away from me has moving lights on it.
Even the dog, so I was wrong...lol
It's a great mixer. Has multiple outputs and mixes so everyone in the band can hear what they want if we all plug in. With a set of IEM's makes for pretty fun practice jamming to tunes.
Good good u good
Simple. Hard and fast
Help. My right hand is synchronised with my right foot. Everytime I want to do a double bass kick, I automatically hit the hi-hat again. What can I do?
Try working on alternating 16ths notes with right hand and left foot for a while.. like hats, kick, hats, kick hitting the snare on 2 and 4. or try 16th notes on just the right foot with 1/8 notes on the right hand. also. Write out what you are playing on a piece of paper and play SLOW. most issues are from speeding up too fast.
@@beyondbetrayal Thanks!
Hey man, cool video, solid drumming. I was wondering two things ... One, do you use a drop clutch at all for when you're doing it with two feet? And two, what is your pedal tension like?
I used to use a drop clutch for metal sometimes, now i'd have 2 hats, one open a bit and one closed.. I usually use a single for most of my punk stuff and double just sometimes. As far as tension, I like a tighter head and medium pedal. the looser the head, the tighter the pedal.
@@beyondbetrayal word! Thank you. And did you find the clutch to be kind of a pain to use, hence the investment in a second pair hats?
@@fbeegle A bit, I mean, if you just want to drop them to semi closed for a bit they work good.. then stomp the pedal to get em up.. I liked the idea of them more than I actually used it though
@@beyondbetrayal okay, that's kinda what I was thinking too.
@@beyondbetrayal it'd be ideal just have your one foot doubles so solid that you don't need it, but I can imagine that takes quite a few hours of grinding away at it.
good job bro, you should watch this is a standoff and belvedere, really nice punk band.
I like those bands a lot. My very old punk band had opened for Belvedere a few times in Brandon, Manitoba years and years ago.
Smelly done it by a single bruh!
Watch the rest of the video bruh! I play it with a single too.
Hey! When you say playing at 200bpm, do you also play 32nd notes at that speed? A bit confused about how to count :)
Nah, it's 8th notes on the high hat and the kick's are sometimes 16th notes. You hit the hi hat 400 times in a minute.
@@Fiascopia thank you very much!
What’s the name of your punk band? This video I’m definitely showing my band (we play skate punk too!)
Check us out. Our name is In 2 Months, we just finished recording our second CD. melodicpunkrecords.bandcamp.com/track/in-2-months-cast-away (not really mixed yet)
beyondbetrayal much love! Thanks for the info!
beyondbetrayal I liked your music up until the "singer," lol. :) I'm.hardcore 70's and 80's Classic Rock much of the time, lol.
heel toe over double pedal... all the way
I explain my double technique on a single pedal. I just do a double, no need for heel toe for a quick double stroke.
I've seen so many metal drummers miss the beats out when they play live, its so lazy. I understand if you're talking about timing, so the guitarist can hear the hi-hat, but its just laziness and poor technique. A lot of 'core' drummers seem to be guilty of this when they play.
Hahaha, I taught to play it right very young so there is no other way to me :P. There is a time and place for it here and there if you want to change the pulse to 1/4 notes, or sometimes accent a few spots. I'll half time it and move to the crash as an accent for a bar here and there. I only recently heard the term "cheater punk" and it made me laugh. It's the classic, "oh my band plays really fast at XXX BPM".... Then you watch them and wonder why the guitars aren't down picking a single thing and the drummer is playing half the notes. haha
Here's a secret NO sound or recording engineer wants you to know: They have the mix divided up at the board. So you can put more hat anywhere, in ANY monitor or headphone mix.
No engineer wants to play games with that all day long (drums can have a lot of channels) so they literally don't tell you the mix is subdivided :) Studio, they give you a tiny mixer box to plug into where drums would have to be premixed to make it fit in the channels allotted.
nice, mate
Thanks buddy
The hi-hats on the d-beat are wrong. You do it on a cymbal for a fuller sound, and it follows the strokes of the bass drum...
You can really play any beat however you want. that is one of the great things about music and art. No rules.
@@beyondbetrayal Sure, everyone should play what feels good for them. I am all for that. But that doesn't mean that the beat is still called a d-beat. What is otherwise the use of naming something if people use it to describe something other then where the name was made for?
I do like to add, cause that wasn't vibrating from my other comments, that this video is really useful though. Especially for beginning players, or like me, drummers that were very 1 dimensional (for me obviously the d-beat), and like to broaden their repertoire. So thank you for that!
I learned from playing Epitaph and Fat Wrerck's comps. You are better than me.
That's how I got into it also. Punk-o-Rama (1) and Fat Music for Fat people were on constant play in my teenage years.
Yep same. I had 2 drum lessons. When the teacher asked me to play him some songs I wanted to learn I played NOFX and Ten Foot Pole off Punkorama 1. He couldn't play either of them, but he did show me a weird trick where you hit the bass petal with the heel/side of your foot and roll it up to the ball to get that quick double hit. I can do it without that now, but that led me into eventually into being able to do it properly.
Anyway, cool video! I wish I'd had it back in the 90's!
Punks don’t use double bass.
1. Some do
2. Neither is this guy
Well, there's punk and there's 'punk' and one is far more punk than the other.
Nice vid
Thanks man
no double drum pedal please for punk music, okay?
Watch the whole video next time. I play with a single and recommend it
What ride cymbal you using here?
Sabian 21 raw bell dry ride.
Haha oops. Used the wrong account. Starting a review channel lol
@@beyondbetrayal haha all good thanks for reply
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Can I ask why some pop punkers calls this The Forbidden Beat? Is there an origin to it?
I don't really think it's called that often. I know many drummers and this is the first I have heard of it.
what band are you in?
in 2 months and dissolution are my 2 bands
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What cymbals are you using bro? Mainly crashes?
All of my cymbals are Sabian. My crashes are all in the HHX line. HHX-Xtreme, HHX-plosion HHX Evolution are 3 that I have used in these videos. I have a Holy china and an AAX Metal ride. I have the Xcelerator hats too. They are super loud.
any sheet music for this
Hardcore
What bass drum tecnique are you using?
slide or skip doubles. I have a few videos on how I do it
you can barely hear his bass 😂
Lots and lots of muffling
I have a ton of muffling for triggering in my metal band. I didn't trigger in this video, and I could have done a better job mixing the kick.
@@beyondbetrayal from what i hear it sounds gnarly
Really good but I wouldn't consider this punk drumming. Definitely more thrash/crossover.
I guess the years of metal I have played have caused that. If you watch further I switch to single pedal playing. I play in a punk band called In 2 Months. We are pretty fast skate punk.
Yaa i think u just taught linoleum by nofx
Clinton Coleman it's a great song. Most 90s skate punk uses that beat
beyondbetrayal hellyaa..that was a cool vid,ya got skills dude.check out a cool canadian punk band called the Nunfuckers.album is Dead and on the floor.
Awesome. This reminds me of some of the bands I was into back in the 90s in Brandon Mb. We had a pretty good punk/hardcore scene for a small town back then.
beyondbetrayal hellyaa man even tho they only made one album,there one of my favs..the drummer really makes the Nunfuckers to me...fast powerful attitude and hella accurate.
I listened to the whole EP. Too bad there wasn't more
I couldn’t play with just socks
Gitar drumm ok.
Lol
Why is he not wearing shoes??
Because I don't wear shoes in my house. And there are no rules saying you have to wear shoes while drumming.
He wants to keep the house and his kit clean. Shoes in the house👞 🤮
2:30 it isn't d-beat)
I made this over 6 years ago. Perhaps you're right
I hate I hate drum beats from reagan youth are badass.
when you use 2pedals it starts metalcore or something else but not punk )))
Nikolay Kirutin hahaha ok. Because you can hear the difference on a CD? Also. Watch the whole video and I do single foot as well.
Curious to see if Steve Blank a guy I know drumming 50 years could tell. Got an amazing ear for drums. (TightSqueeze Jam on FB, so as not to hijack the post)
Some people SAY they can, but to be honest, if timing and dynamics are perfect it should be the same. The reason is most people are not perfect so you can tell slightly. It is a lot easier to use a double that's for sure. And I am not an elitist punk rocker so I don't really care. I can play it both ways, but why not do the easier one if the pedal is there. I'll switch to single when I want to work the hats a bit.
Your practice sounded like you were about to break into You could be mine. Double bass drums is not punk. May as well admit defeat and join a metal band. Apart from that I enjoyed it.
I do single doubles as well .. Played in a punk band for years on a single kick..... I do it in the video too... I also play in a death metal band so. there's that too. haha. I'm not trying to be "punk" .. just making music. If there is 2 ways to do something that sounds the same there really isn't anything COOL about choosing one over the other. if I have a double pedal in front of me why not use it.. But every genera has their elitists so maybe you should open your own channel with some videos.
beyondbetrayal I saw. If everyone starts playing double pedal punk will die out as it did before Nirvana, not getting into that today, NOFX, Pennywise, Offspring etc. I just don't want to see that happen and maybe I am a purist for that reason but I remember when it was Bad Religion and your only other choice was a 1001 hairy metal bands. I joined a metal band briefly and even bought a double bass pedal but then I got asked to join a progressive band playing in 7/8, 9/8, 5/4, 6/8 etc and the opportunity was too good to resist. I have no interest in starting my own channel. I enjoy watching others' and making the odd comment, even if it isn't to everyone's liking :)
It's all good man. I understand where you are coming from. I was in 2 punk bands that I only used a single pedal many years back. I still go back and forth and have done some punk covers using one foot. Prog is great, I love playing in odd time too.. The years being in a death metal band has taught me to conserve energy where as punk was just a "go for it" kindof thing. I have to save every ounce of energy for double kick and blasts so technique matters much more these days. I grew up on all the punk bands you listed. Punk will never die out.. It all goes in waves
beyondbetrayal Cool beans geezer Thanks I didn't used to it was punk through and through but reached a point where I wasn't improving so started taking lessons with a professional reading sheet music improving my technique etc which is how I was able to teach later. I started to listen to different types of music Yes, Genesis etc and I had a bit of a reputation locally but started to have more finesse so studio musicians started to seek me out rather than those just looking for a DH Peligro clone who I absolutely loved. I went from completely go for it, I know what you mean, to playing the music and leaving things out rather than putting everything in. I started to sit it on jazz jam sessions as the teacher introduced me to people like Elvin Jones. I only played in one band like that but it wasn't for me. Early Metallica and Megadeth is as heavy as I go. I still appreciate Nick Menza though. I definitely agree on technique which is why I started taking lessons to improve mine. It seems that way now but before Nirvana opened the gates BR were around but The Clash had gone, Operation Ivy had gone, The Ramones were resting. Hard to believe now but growing up I was the only single bass drum player I knew because everyone was emulating Testament or Exodus etc. Punk is strong now but it wasn't always so but definitely sounds better with a single bass drum. I much prefer the sound of Byron McMackin to some of these heavier double bass drummers but just a personal preference. I hope you are right but noticed on the festival scene very few punk bands this year whereas in years gone by there was a punk stage. Also this year more rappers instead of proper musicians so once again I have concerns. There is a positive though as means the little club I attend gets bands like NOFX, Less than Jake, Dead Kennedys, The Damned on the bill and that is just for starters.
Funny that BR was mentioned, he uses a double kick pedal
punk never use double pedal
Ohhhh we have an elitist here!!!! Maybe watch the entire video to the point where I explain and play it with a single pedal.
Step 1. Get rid of those double pedals.
The funny thing is if you watched the video I do most of it with a single pedal. Way to go!
Yeah, Good job, don't take it so seriously. :)
Urpo you’re a silly boy
No.1 Not with a double pedal
deBidi first. Watch my videos on slide and my punk covers and you can see I can play single pedal. Second. It all sounds the same. Unless your an elitist "punk" which is a total oxy moron it really doesn't matter. It sounds the same in the end. Also. Maybe try watching the entire video next time too buddy. It's mostly done on a single
Punk don't need double pedal ok
Read the other comments and watch the rest of the video. I use 1 pedal for a good portion of it.
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