Don't force things Gininda. Arrest the reel suspects, b4 it's too late. When the state is put in the corner, the judge comes after the defence to pick up the attitude of the state witness
@momimoo176 .... they're bound to wrestle in contradiction because the case is poorly investigated and facts are baked into inferences just assuming that the state will hold the upper hand ... sort of kangaroo order or mampara taxi disciplinary enquiry where the poor have no say .... this thing just stinks and should be thrown out!!!!!!!!!!!
@@justinmothibi5739let me give you a hind. Gininda lied that when he met Zungu first time he asked him about Senzo case jiki Statement of saying they met 2 times taking about Senzo case to mention just one exposee but it's a lot Gininda and Baloyi were exposed to the core
Lol. Defense is so bitter and angry because there is no lie version that can stand all lies were rebutted by the state and they can't confine Brig Gininda to yes or no he explains which digs a deeper hole for the accused not even appeal can save them.Allegedly
. Gininda was exposed period rebuting even the statement of his main source of information Zungu 😂😂😂😂. Gininda is lier. Even the confession has no value now because in the confession saying Kelly called accused number while in the 205 no communication.. What about the run away car which is not existing kwaaa
@@ChibvunzaGininda is just benefit from the bogas judge but still he was exposed. How did Gininda rebut the moving of accuse 3 while his phone pinked at Joburg at quarter to 9 while Senzo was already dead
Exactly makabongwe upatanisa ngamanga abambe apha abambe lee akuhlangani tuuu..5/12/2024....the main thrust of Brig BN Gininda's evidence is unshakable..
Sphiva hasn't had hits at the taxi rank so he doesn't have money to pay Mngo hence he's fakign .Mngo is an empty vessel he is not as experienced as he claims .Allegedly
Oksalayo bazogwetshwa ,he's not intelligent .He made Ratha write a judgment after he said his client never knew Ntuli ,yet before the adjournment, he said Ntuli was acquainted with his client .Allegedly
Mntungwa, yebo Adv Z Nxumalo is doing his best, but the witness is resolute, forthright and convincing, but that doesn't mean the accused persons are GUILTY, there is a lot of evidence to be led even by the defence...5/12/2024
The other strange admission by Adv Z Nxumalo was that the accused (No 4) admits that they were at the hostel together on the 26/10/2014...whereas other accused flatly deny that...(As their versions were put to Constable Sizwe Sikhumbuzo Zungu)..5/12/2024
This guy he makes inference on DNA report but when it comes to cellphones evidence he says he is not an expert... He keeps on referring to hearsay... Our justice system is messed up... Hence Zuma was once arrested.
These are the "real" suspects entlek this comment section is full of uneducated people .Brig said you'd never understand his evidence if you have low IQ.Can we have people write what Province they are from before commenting .I am sick and tired of Nongoma people.allegedly
Most zulus have problems realizing what's real and what's fake .JZ is guilty he raped an HIV positive woman and took a shower.He threatened to spill the beans if Anc dared to remove him 2.His son became a millionaire through public sector 3.his Nkandla home loan got approved long after the house was already built 4.he is best friends of gubtas that milked this country dry and now he has a party hiring all the people found guilty of corruption yet you look at it and think it's going to do better than Anc .Allegedly
It is the role of the defence to do everything to make the state’s case to look bad & incorrect - so these guys are trying to do that. Right now only the judge knows whether they are succeeding or not.
You mean state look nice so far?judgement is infront of judge already this is only procceger to finish the case ...anyway he is busy defending for state and fighting hard with 19.zero zero law
@@thembizwane6098why are you so bothered by people’s analysis? 😅😂… were you part of the cooking? 😅. You are getting so worked up in the comment section 😂
Lol numbered according to Bongan masuku ?or Mzansi unfiltered?Noni M ,Clantis Dumakude? Or Patricia? There's no Gininda that got arrested and Def no Gininda that will be arrested or Baloyi or Mjiyakho or Ratha .The only people getting arrested here are the 5 before court and the Brig tongue slipped he said they'll be a separation of trial which means Kelly's days are numbered .Allegedly
@TheLan70 Nami I am with him 100%, Brig has a name and has had success before and he will have success once more .He sure presented facts even if Senzo came to me in dreams and told me Longwe killed him, I'd tell him that he must be crazy it was Mncube ,Ntanzi,Muzi,Maphisa and Ntuli who were sent by Kelly .Allegedly
I don't think he will get more money cos his now saving himself from being arrested for all the mess up he has cost.. Jst wish some1 in the house can just tel us the truth yaz.
The world is watching, not this time. Ratha will never put his 50yrs experience into waste. Baloi and Gininda have won cases mysteriously because they were not aired. The last case of Muzi Sibiya was done by Gininda and Baloi. The person who sentenced the high untouchable police officer was Ratha...... General/Brigadier Mdluli... Whatever 😂😂😂😂
This judge is bias, he has already convicted accused, every time defence raise issues, he always impatient with defence, but when it comes to the state his demeanour changes
South Africans lets writes a petition to the president of this country to intervene on this case..why kelly khumalo not appearing before Judge Ratha..I think we all going lose trust on the judicial system..
Relax.... Kelly will be subpoenaed by the defence. Kusezoba lit la emzantsi. She will also want to clear her name and she will never go down without a fight.
Neh, don't be like that. My Brig let it slip yesterday that there's a separation of trial. The president knows all this .The president also knows that Brig Gininda is up against Sifiso Meyiwa who sacrificed the family brief called Teffo to represent murderes of his brother .Sifiso further refutes what Senzo's best friends are telling him and defends kelly 2.Sifiso further teams up with the sister of the accused called Sinqobile Maphisa, and they further team up with Makhubo,Buthelezi and Patricia.They ran 375 on twitter using mans not Barry roux hence the public doesn't belive what's before court .Allegedly
@ConnieMorake lol you must be related to the accused after that comment there's no way .Kelly will lie in an attempt to clear her name say so .We the state prefer it like that and I am under the impression she pays for Mshololo .Allegedly
I wish Advocates from the defense can dig deeper into whst Gininda is saying about the direction of the Cartridge and projectile. Maybe Gininda must explain what a cartridge is n what a cartridge case is.
I think it's now clear that the state has lost How can ppl in the house not recognized those called intruders Ramosipili Mnisi and now Nxumalo proved that this ppl were never there Our queen Mshololo will sweep with this witness Our father will put it to them that My no.1 keeper was shot by mistake n state is protecting boyfriend ya zandi
Akho kwamatapile abanjiweyo pha....there is no version that has been put and rattled Brig BN Gininda, he is so resolute, straightforward and forthright in his answers unless it is something not in his expertise...5/12/2024
@@dannym7593 ....yes in jail because he wanted to expose all the shenanigans happening in the law fraternity working together with people like Gininda
They is no witness from the house who said one accuse ran out and the other came in, they claimed they were always 2 suspects whom they were fighting whith. How can witness miss such important aspect if it was the truth, Gininda and Baloyi must be arrested for cooking this case. Nxumalo lacks follow up questions
Defence request death certificates of all those witnesses that he is saying is dead because he might not want to bring them to court as he is scared they will destroy his case. Why is that judge not asking for those documents, why?
🗣IBIS report DOLOLO⛔️ Mr verbatism:"I think i dealt with it" Nxuuu: "you can repeat it" hahaha o mo tshwere ka ditapole moshimane wame💣👌🏿🔥 🫨company liquidated🚩🤣from uno to polo mix masala🧐
AND HE CAME AND SAID HE PHONED THE COMPANY AFTER THE ADJOURNMENT THEY SAY THERE IS NOTHING THAT SHOWS ACCUSED 5 IN 2014 IMAGINE DECORATED BRIGADIER IS A LIAR YERRRR
Don't worry he makes them comfortable and will issue a damning judgement. He sentenced a top cop that was feared by the whole SA. Remember Brig or Major General Richard Mdluli?
Nxumalo is the best big broe. You deserve to be called my lord.. Gininda salute you as from day1, he started his cross examination. Gininda now knows how to answer the asked... 😂😂😂
The bullet and the cartridge end up in the same area😂😂😂😂the cartridge always fly back😂 Gadinda said he has never ever seen a incident like that, It's Because they planted it,they left loopholes which this Gadinda trying to close but he's getting caught out😂😂 He never
i think the state will win the case in so far as the evidence presented subsequently in collaboration with the judge my lord ,please don’t say i haven’t dealt with this before😅
Vele jininda leads everyone in this court. He even let the state. Thee is nothing that Nxumalo can do when he Decides to give his long answer to the questions that are not asked.
Ai, the defence has been very weak. Ramosepele, Mnisi and Nxumalo, we will hear the showstopper tomorrow, Mshololo, she can even say she will cross examine next year.
This judge thinks he’s on top of the world but hes an embarrassment to the whole SA judiciary system.what a shame to judge Ratha , very shameless.what a disgrace to the whole of SA
Another thing even if you don't complete a warning statement on the scene you must read a suspect his rights to keep quiet but one notice that the suspect were ask questions after they were warned ,if they revoked there rights is it pen down in their pocket book or diary where were the lawyer all the way booking a suspect out for investigation in the night ,where were their rights once u say you want a lawyer the can not ask you any questions unless the revoke but again the police must pen it down as evidence
Adv G Baloyi is meticulous in his job....he can remember finer details of evidence with amazing clarity even in circumstances where the evidence was led a yr ago....I take my hat off for him....5/12/2024
Sister don't u think that defence must ask the question,"how many bullets were spend at the labs on this case then how many bullets were spend at labs with the Cleveland case ,if there's one bullets short it mean it's the bullet that they plant on the scene at the spaza shop
The case is closed,accused number 4 wants to be excluded from acting on common purpose from the other accused not disputing commissions of the crime. Gininza was solid and the state had a solid case.
M afraid that other accused are saying they were not near Vosloruus on the ,26/10/2014.. But Adv Z Nxumalo says they were together that day...i wonder how the judge is going to deal with it or in terms of the law how is that dealt with.....5/12/2024
Clearly you don’t understand. He is referring to accused 3-5. And that his client being accused 5 was never in a telephone call with the acccused. He was with them . Again 3-5
Think again...Adv Z Nxumalo appears/represents Accused No 4 (Mr Ziphozonke Maphisa) not No 5 (Mr Fisokuhle Ntuli) represented by Adv Z Mshololo...Double check what m saying plz...Maybe m very wrong. ..16/1/2025
Now that it suits gininda, he encourages the court to watch a film shooting scenes where 9mm is used. But other people, e.g, kelly, longwe, mthokozizi, tumelo, gladness and zandile they need a fire arm competency to identify a gun with a wheel 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ncumalo:Brigadier how much time do you need? Brigadier: mr matlou testify about it i dont know if it was handed over. This brigadier dont answer qtion.
Don't force things Gininda. Arrest the reel suspects, b4 it's too late. When the state is put in the corner, the judge comes after the defence to pick up the attitude of the state witness
Brown envelope I wonder how much
And when the state witnesses are sort of getting stuck he nods to give state witnesses confidence.
@momimoo176 .... they're bound to wrestle in contradiction because the case is poorly investigated and facts are baked into inferences just assuming that the state will hold the upper hand ... sort of kangaroo order or mampara taxi disciplinary enquiry where the poor have no say .... this thing just stinks and should be thrown out!!!!!!!!!!!
Statement specialist this Nxumalo guy is the best when it comes to statements top top notch
What makes you say he is a statement specialist? What holes did he poke into Brigadier Gininda's evidence???
@@justinmothibi5739let me give you a hind. Gininda lied that when he met Zungu first time he asked him about Senzo case jiki Statement of saying they met 2 times taking about Senzo case to mention just one exposee but it's a lot Gininda and Baloyi were exposed to the core
Lol. Defense is so bitter and angry because there is no lie version that can stand all lies were rebutted by the state and they can't confine Brig Gininda to yes or no he explains which digs a deeper hole for the accused not even appeal can save them.Allegedly
. Gininda was exposed period rebuting even the statement of his main source of information Zungu 😂😂😂😂. Gininda is lier. Even the confession has no value now because in the confession saying Kelly called accused number while in the 205 no communication.. What about the run away car which is not existing kwaaa
@@ChibvunzaGininda is just benefit from the bogas judge but still he was exposed. How did Gininda rebut the moving of accuse 3 while his phone pinked at Joburg at quarter to 9 while Senzo was already dead
The accused may be involved in other illegal activities, but they could not have killed Senzo.
Trouble is, you are not the presiding judge in this matter.
HHow do you know that we're you with the accuse the night Senzo was killed.Never say never my dear unless you have proof.
How do you know that?
He comments like a football fan at the stadium.
@@ThembekaKona-fh7dsShe never back up her claims this one. She just threw comments abhedayo nje😂😂
Brigadier Gininda keep denying the statement that he has stated before , he's getting himself in huge trouble 😮
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂,, he see problem and at the end he is going to jail
Which statement
@@magee350 Obviously you're not an attorney, leave it to the genius 🙄
That is just your opinion - for all I care that opinion might get us nowhere at the end of this case.
@@ColeCollinsCostance1673-q7lYou like saying things that are beyond your understanding because you always fail to back up your comments.
Well done Adv Nxumalo,you silenced the enemy
Ayyy this guy is fighting tooth and nail to connect the dots that doesn't connect to a normal person...
Exactly makabongwe upatanisa ngamanga abambe apha abambe lee akuhlangani tuuu..5/12/2024....the main thrust of Brig BN Gininda's evidence is unshakable..
@@MakabongweDumoluhle 😁😁he bring things closer e,g the gun, DNA he corroborate statements Kore ke mofere fere lenyalong
I feel like i am watching a different case after reading the comments. Yah neh, we understand things differently.
You can say that again.. Comments are pushing some other things..
It happens when Gininda is busy with them
I read comments to count number of fools but follow case in support of Nzori 💪🏾
They either dhom drunk stupid commentetors
@@innocentsibanda6375Yekela insangu innocent😂😂😂. #insupportofNzori🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ginida yes or No my lord i think we dealt with this matter
I think we dealt with this matter before😂😂😂subsequently, and collaboration ntonitoni
I hope Mngomezulu is getting better where ever he is, because we need him in this case 😢
Mgomezulu retired from this case
He is coming back gun blazing. Busy doing investigations 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂@@winniemoropene6600
@winniemoropene6600 how do you know tht..did he tell you? Cuz at court he said he'll come he'll be the last..
Sphiva hasn't had hits at the taxi rank so he doesn't have money to pay Mngo hence he's fakign .Mngo is an empty vessel he is not as experienced as he claims .Allegedly
Adv Nxumalo is intelligent he uses the same info provided by the state and not hear say
Oksalayo bazogwetshwa ,he's not intelligent .He made Ratha write a judgment after he said his client never knew Ntuli ,yet before the adjournment, he said Ntuli was acquainted with his client .Allegedly
Mntungwa, yebo Adv Z Nxumalo is doing his best, but the witness is resolute, forthright and convincing, but that doesn't mean the accused persons are GUILTY, there is a lot of evidence to be led even by the defence...5/12/2024
The other strange admission by Adv Z Nxumalo was that the accused (No 4) admits that they were at the hostel together on the 26/10/2014...whereas other accused flatly deny that...(As their versions were put to Constable Sizwe Sikhumbuzo Zungu)..5/12/2024
@@ChibvunzaI think your mind is functioning reverse wise
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us he said George goch hostel
This guy he makes inference on DNA report but when it comes to cellphones evidence he says he is not an expert... He keeps on referring to hearsay... Our justice system is messed up... Hence Zuma was once arrested.
These are the "real" suspects entlek this comment section is full of uneducated people .Brig said you'd never understand his evidence if you have low IQ.Can we have people write what Province they are from before commenting .I am sick and tired of Nongoma people.allegedly
Most zulus have problems realizing what's real and what's fake .JZ is guilty he raped an HIV positive woman and took a shower.He threatened to spill the beans if Anc dared to remove him 2.His son became a millionaire through public sector 3.his Nkandla home loan got approved long after the house was already built 4.he is best friends of gubtas that milked this country dry and now he has a party hiring all the people found guilty of corruption yet you look at it and think it's going to do better than Anc .Allegedly
Nxumalo❤❤
Love you too ❤😂
When the Defence Ballistic expert comes to give evidence
The Prosecution and these Witnesses of the prosecution will all have egg on their faces
This judge, linamasimba mshololo is right 😒😒😒
Mshololo is stupid the judge is right to get clarity "R vs Herpworth bopha Ratha
@@Chibvunza e stupid uwena😒😒
U@@Chibvunzauzobopha Gininda opheke icala
Alimphiwe uAdvocate Mshololo
I have never seen the brigadier so humble. Big up 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Nxumalo.... Humble the haughty brigadier day broad light 🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️
It is the role of the defence to do everything to make the state’s case to look bad & incorrect - so these guys are trying to do that. Right now only the judge knows whether they are succeeding or not.
You mean state look nice so far?judgement is infront of judge already this is only procceger to finish the case ...anyway he is busy defending for state and fighting hard with 19.zero zero law
Well done to Adv Mshololo for calling out the judge. 🎉
They should have declared him a hostile witness already... he's a joke. Nonetheless, his days are numbered.
You’ve watched a lot of court proceedings and are proficient in the language but that sure does not make you anything more than a fan.
@@thembizwane6098why are you so bothered by people’s analysis? 😅😂… were you part of the cooking? 😅. You are getting so worked up in the comment section 😂
Judge loves him
Lol numbered according to Bongan masuku ?or Mzansi unfiltered?Noni M ,Clantis Dumakude? Or Patricia? There's no Gininda that got arrested and Def no Gininda that will be arrested or Baloyi or Mjiyakho or Ratha .The only people getting arrested here are the 5 before court and the Brig tongue slipped he said they'll be a separation of trial which means Kelly's days are numbered .Allegedly
@TheLan70 Nami I am with him 100%, Brig has a name and has had success before and he will have success once more .He sure presented facts even if Senzo came to me in dreams and told me Longwe killed him, I'd tell him that he must be crazy it was Mncube ,Ntanzi,Muzi,Maphisa and Ntuli who were sent by Kelly .Allegedly
Ginindza your lies are getting you into troubles...kondwa ke cula Ginindza
From a distance you can tell who is lying already? Genius!
Tell us the truth
@@walterndlovu-f2f Some of us have gone to University.
@ColeCollinsCostance1673-q7l Who cares?
@@walterndlovu-f2f and you know that he is lying 😂😂🤥😂
Let's Hope this Ends well, justice must be served please.
Nxumalo is the beast in a cat form the biggest mistake is to undermine him
Hayi udlala ngaye
Lol and uyamsukela ngampela nkosi yam lo ngathi kwayena akazazi ngisho igama lakhe, i wonder if he has ever won any case
😂@@andilemthethwa3976
If Gininda win this case,he is going to be paid lot of money by Chicco Twala
Lot more than he paid already ? alegetly
I don't think he will get more money cos his now saving himself from being arrested for all the mess up he has cost.. Jst wish some1 in the house can just tel us the truth yaz.
Ave nizazi indaba eningeke nizmele Uma nizbuzwa 1 by 1..... Nikhuluma Kuma crowds.
This time is going wrong 😒😒
The world is watching, not this time. Ratha will never put his 50yrs experience into waste. Baloi and Gininda have won cases mysteriously because they were not aired. The last case of Muzi Sibiya was done by Gininda and Baloi. The person who sentenced the high untouchable police officer was Ratha...... General/Brigadier Mdluli... Whatever 😂😂😂😂
This judge is bias, he has already convicted accused, every time defence raise issues, he always impatient with defence, but when it comes to the state his demeanour changes
South Africans lets writes a petition to the president of this country to intervene on this case..why kelly khumalo not appearing before Judge Ratha..I think we all going lose trust on the judicial system..
Remember Adv Teffo complaint abt him.And we know he can never act against his comrades.
Relax.... Kelly will be subpoenaed by the defence. Kusezoba lit la emzantsi. She will also want to clear her name and she will never go down without a fight.
Neh, don't be like that. My Brig let it slip yesterday that there's a separation of trial. The president knows all this .The president also knows that Brig Gininda is up against Sifiso Meyiwa who sacrificed the family brief called Teffo to represent murderes of his brother .Sifiso further refutes what Senzo's best friends are telling him and defends kelly 2.Sifiso further teams up with the sister of the accused called Sinqobile Maphisa, and they further team up with Makhubo,Buthelezi and Patricia.They ran 375 on twitter using mans not Barry roux hence the public doesn't belive what's before court .Allegedly
@ConnieMorake lol you must be related to the accused after that comment there's no way .Kelly will lie in an attempt to clear her name say so .We the state prefer it like that and I am under the impression she pays for Mshololo .Allegedly
You are 100% correct,better still protest outside the court with relevant placards.
The talked to each other but never communicated,🚮🚮
Ginida talking to much beating around the bush😂😮
I wish Advocates from the defense can dig deeper into whst Gininda is saying about the direction of the Cartridge and projectile. Maybe Gininda must explain what a cartridge is n what a cartridge case is.
Welele Gininda, where is proof of payment 😒😒😒
Dololo😂😂
Macingwane andikuva kakuhle??? 5/12/2024
I never saw Ratha taking so many notes
I think it's now clear that the state has lost
How can ppl in the house not recognized those called intruders
Ramosipili Mnisi and now Nxumalo proved that this ppl were never there
Our queen Mshololo will sweep with this witness
Our father will put it to them that My no.1 keeper was shot by mistake n state is protecting boyfriend ya zandi
Somehow you have the results long before everyone else in court. You must be a rare legal whizz kid.
Their cooking doesn't add up. They have been doing this for decades, their trap has caught them against the wall. Prosecutors and the brig 😂😂😂😂😂
@@thembizwane6098GOD hate lies hope you not a liar
Like my mom would say ‘Gininda het ‘n deksel vir elke pot’ 🙄
Yawaz msebenzi wakho Mr Nxumalo siyabonga 🙏Slowly bt sholly
I'm all the time wondering what did Gininda investigate??????
Nothing Gininda and Baloyi just cooked evidence then presented it to NPA
Same because he don't know if Accused communicate
Yhoooo this Nxumalo guy😮😮
He was on fire
He surprised me
@@nosiphodlaminipCan you unpack on what did he do that surprised or poked the whole on the state evidence?
@@walterndlovu-f2f he poked all lies and lay bare surprises of a brig😂😂😂😂
@ConnieMorake Unpack those lies that he poked?
Nxumalo uyibambe ngamatapile le
😂
Say that again 😂😂😂😂😂
Akho kwamatapile abanjiweyo pha....there is no version that has been put and rattled Brig BN Gininda, he is so resolute, straightforward and forthright in his answers unless it is something not in his expertise...5/12/2024
Teffo was the first person to expose the other case concerning Kelly.
Teffo is in jail, he exposed nothing. He's a disgrace to Law
@@dannym7593 ....yes in jail because he wanted to expose all the shenanigans happening in the law fraternity working together with people like Gininda
They is no witness from the house who said one accuse ran out and the other came in, they claimed they were always 2 suspects whom they were fighting whith. How can witness miss such important aspect if it was the truth, Gininda and Baloyi must be arrested for cooking this case. Nxumalo lacks follow up questions
The comment section is the reason not everyone can be a lawyer.
😂
If the accused were seen at the crime scene outside the house carrying their phones,why then no tower picked them in vosloorus but in benrose?
Well done Nxumalo dealing nice with the witness judge😅😅
Gininda claims to be highly qualified but he doesn't know the difference between depose and dispose.
Defence request death certificates of all those witnesses that he is saying is dead because he might not want to bring them to court as he is scared they will destroy his case. Why is that judge not asking for those documents, why?
The brigadier has been humbled today yhooooo😂😂😂😂
4:25:43 This is very wrong
🗣IBIS report DOLOLO⛔️
Mr verbatism:"I think i dealt with it"
Nxuuu: "you can repeat it" hahaha o mo tshwere ka ditapole moshimane wame💣👌🏿🔥
🫨company liquidated🚩🤣from uno to polo mix masala🧐
AND HE CAME AND SAID HE PHONED THE COMPANY AFTER THE ADJOURNMENT THEY SAY THERE IS NOTHING THAT SHOWS ACCUSED 5 IN 2014 IMAGINE DECORATED BRIGADIER IS A LIAR YERRRR
😅😅😅😅 ke rata the word ditapole..he keep saying linckage ..how???? What linckage dololo
Myeke udlalela Ku accuse 5 uyeza uMshololo uzomfraya a mohalike
😂😂😂
The judge think he's funny mxm
Ratha always supporting and agreeing with the state and witnesses he even give them clues to defeat the ends of justice tried by the defence
Don't worry he makes them comfortable and will issue a damning judgement. He sentenced a top cop that was feared by the whole SA. Remember Brig or Major General Richard Mdluli?
Gininda is relying much in makhaleni he has no solid evidence big up to the defence they are cracking him period
What evidence that he doesn't have?
@walterndlovu-f2f by explaining too much, even unnecessarily explanations.
@@melusimalinga7509 I don't think you responded to my question
And Zungulicious😂😂😂😂
@@walterndlovu-f2f he has hearsay evidence he never investigated this case and solely relies on Zungus statement
Gininda doesn't respect Nxumalo he replies with ukwedelela
Yamdelela akekho ogayiboni lento but Ratha uthi uyajabula ushilo nje mnisi
Black mamba ❤❤
Nxumalo is the best big broe. You deserve to be called my lord.. Gininda salute you as from day1, he started his cross examination. Gininda now knows how to answer the asked... 😂😂😂
😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ababoshwe okelly kade betanasa
You should be telling that to the NPA, not here.
And I believe wants waboshwa kuzokhanya bha🤲
@@thembizwane6098wena uhlanganaphi?
Big up my big brother advocate Nxumalo,Zwide kaLanga❤❤❤❤
Gininda kept on referring ro the regions but Ratha already said that he cannot convict a person with such an inconclusive results moes.
It's a fact Nxumalo and you too you know it 🤞🤞
The bullet and the cartridge end up in the same area😂😂😂😂the cartridge always fly back😂 Gadinda said he has never ever seen a incident like that,
It's Because they planted it,they left loopholes which this Gadinda trying to close but he's getting caught out😂😂
He never
That what I've said to myself but the Advocates didn't take not of that😢.
i think the state will win the case in so far as the evidence presented subsequently in collaboration with the judge my lord ,please don’t say i haven’t dealt with this before😅
Nxumalo is singlehandedly losing the case for the whole defence 😢😢. It's almost like Gininda is the one leading the Cross Examination
Vele jininda leads everyone in this court. He even let the state. Thee is nothing that Nxumalo can do when he Decides to give his long answer to the questions that are not asked.
Plz provide the time Nxumalo if not you are lying
Show us the proof of money movements wena Gininda wa leghenza
Looking at accuse #3 hairs, I can't imagine dreadlocks.. 🤔
Ai, the defence has been very weak. Ramosepele, Mnisi and Nxumalo, we will hear the showstopper tomorrow, Mshololo, she can even say she will cross examine next year.
Weldon Brigadier Gininda ❤❤❤❤
Yes Gininda you are truuu what Nxumalo wants 🤷♂️
This judge thinks he’s on top of the world but hes an embarrassment to the whole SA judiciary system.what a shame to judge Ratha , very shameless.what a disgrace to the whole of SA
Another thing even if you don't complete a warning statement on the scene you must read a suspect his rights to keep quiet but one notice that the suspect were ask questions after they were warned ,if they revoked there rights is it pen down in their pocket book or diary where were the lawyer all the way booking a suspect out for investigation in the night ,where were their rights once u say you want a lawyer the can not ask you any questions unless the revoke but again the police must pen it down as evidence
Gininda umqolo uphandle ndoda....lababantu bebezihambela emahostel nge26 bezijabulele, wena wakhetha ubabeka icala
I hope Makhekhe Ndlela is still alive to come and buttress the evidence of No 4 accused....same as Ncamuza Gumede.....5/12/2024
Are they done
Yes..they are preparing for tomorrow,it’s national Boxing Day…
Yes bby
@@skott7835😂
7:24
what Gininda is telling the truth🙆🏽
Were you also part of the cooking? 🕵🏾♂️😅😂
Adv G Baloyi is meticulous in his job....he can remember finer details of evidence with amazing clarity even in circumstances where the evidence was led a yr ago....I take my hat off for him....5/12/2024
Why you leave
Gadinda is gonna trap himself
Sister don't u think that defence must ask the question,"how many bullets were spend at the labs on this case then how many bullets were spend at labs with the Cleveland case ,if there's one bullets short it mean it's the bullet that they plant on the scene at the spaza shop
Eish ....I seek clearification...Mshololo sit down
Gininda after this case he will stay away from crime he will never forget this case
He was winning all along until he took a wrong direction of the known or popular deceased
Communication is very broad 😂
What is the relevance of the bag of money found on accused number 3s phone downloads if the money was given to accused one and two
Same pic Longwe had it 😢
Rata playing with pens to distract himself from frustration coz he was warned to stop being dramatic and throwing toys
The case is closed,accused number 4 wants to be excluded from acting on common purpose from the other accused not disputing commissions of the crime. Gininza was solid and the state had a solid case.
Surely Nxumalo is giving you goosebumps and a heart attack at the same time 😂😂😂😂😂
@ConnieMorak🤞
@@ConnieMorakeThe evidence is not challenged and stands
Chicco hired bots on social media. 😂
M afraid that other accused are saying they were not near Vosloruus on the ,26/10/2014..
But Adv Z Nxumalo says they were together that day...i wonder how the judge is going to deal with it or in terms of the law how is that dealt with.....5/12/2024
Clearly you don’t understand. He is referring to accused 3-5. And that his client being accused 5 was never in a telephone call with the acccused. He was with them . Again 3-5
Think again...Adv Z Nxumalo appears/represents Accused No 4 (Mr Ziphozonke Maphisa) not No 5 (Mr Fisokuhle Ntuli) represented by Adv Z Mshololo...Double check what m saying plz...Maybe m very wrong. ..16/1/2025
Ms Mankotham ..Take note..16/1/2025
But you have created your own evidence
Silent assassin Nxumalo....
Now that it suits gininda, he encourages the court to watch a film shooting scenes where 9mm is used. But other people, e.g, kelly, longwe, mthokozizi, tumelo, gladness and zandile they need a fire arm competency to identify a gun with a wheel 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank Mshololo for telling Ratha that his cross examination must pause until Nxumalo is back😂😂😂
Actually Ratha was X examining Nxumalo...
Unxumalo besisthatha kancene best advocate 💥💥💥
Baloyi Gininda jaji ngaty ningangaba amadlozi masenendele kwelamathongo ngoba noba amdlozi akhohlakele
Let's call Gininda Mr.Dispose
No Nxumalo if you know what waz coz you know 🤷♂️
The big question is, where were these guys between 20pm and 21pm on the day and what proof do they have?
🤔 they don't have any so far
@ahmedserekonyane3339 Its unfortunate the state has got evidence that put them at the crime scene
@walterndlovu-f2f I don't think so sir let's wait for argument there is nothing there it's just lies
The state must prove beyond reasonable doubt...
@@walterndlovu-f2fwhich is?
As so far
5 quilty criminals their. Crime records speak volumss
Ncumalo:Brigadier how much time do you need?
Brigadier: mr matlou testify about it i dont know if it was handed over.
This brigadier dont answer qtion.
I wonder lo Walter Ndlovu which case is he following 😅
Judges and NPA together with Police fighting hard for a criminal. 😂😂what a joke. Do we need courts really?
Yes Nxumalo you said so why now 🤭
Ratha bafwethu uyahlanya yini? 😂
Cyril keep dollar's for his families knowing most of the country's ppl suffer of hunger. You stil protect criminals running the country
Mr linkages 😂..