A week with a G4 - Are they obsolete?

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2024

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  • @McBroTime
    @McBroTime 4 года назад +551

    “I’d like to see Adobe Flash disappear”, boy do I have good news for you

    • @sietuuba
      @sietuuba 3 года назад +10

      All that's needed is to port over, and support, a modern and secure browser to run on an architecture that's one more architecture switch older now.

    • @Electrex8
      @Electrex8 3 года назад +11

      And Electron has taken it's place!

    • @alpzepta
      @alpzepta 3 года назад +10

      It’s not good news for Nostalgia sake though

    • @lianrobintribunal484
      @lianrobintribunal484 2 года назад +1

      Adobe Flash is not avaliable for MacBooks or iBooks

    • @MrSchillergaming
      @MrSchillergaming 2 года назад

      11 years too late

  • @bandombeviews6035
    @bandombeviews6035 7 лет назад +451

    "Im actually a bit of a retro gamer"
    Understatment of the century

    • @cederveltman
      @cederveltman 5 лет назад +8

      I literally scrolled down to type exactly that

    • @doge2131
      @doge2131 3 года назад +4

      Same but only 16 and 8-bit

  • @EricICX
    @EricICX 6 лет назад +130

    2010: "A week with a G4: Are they obsolete?"
    2018: "A week with a 2010 Mac Mini: Are they obsolete?"

    • @dustinschings7042
      @dustinschings7042 6 лет назад +6

      Haha funny you mention the 2010 Mini, I just got one. Its a bit slow, but it gets the job done. The SSD helps. It could use more than 4GB RAM. Runs Mojave well for the most part.

    • @ericwood3709
      @ericwood3709 5 лет назад +3

      @@dustinschings7042 Look into updating your Mini's firmware, if needed, and upgrading to 8 GB. It should be possible. Although the machine only ever officially supported 4 GB, Apple put out a firmware update that made it possible to use 8 GB.

    • @funposting8912
      @funposting8912 3 года назад

      My 2010 mini gets so hot now I need to lock the fans on max to stop it from doing an emergency shutdown, but I’m sure if I pulled it apart and redid its thermal paste it’d be fine. I was using it as a server until it “died” in 2019, more than enough

    • @JamesnLollify
      @JamesnLollify 3 года назад +5

      2021: "Using an Intel Mac in 2021, is it obsolete?"

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 3 года назад +1

      @@dustinschings7042 ssd's help alot cause those old spinner drives do get slower with age and as the drive gets filled up where as the ssd will still run just as fast despite those variables

  • @mattcarroll273
    @mattcarroll273 8 лет назад +943

    2010 was almost 7 years ago... WHAT

  • @MinecarftAaron
    @MinecarftAaron 8 лет назад +369

    Could you do a update video of this please, it's been 6 years

    • @MichaelD8393
      @MichaelD8393 8 лет назад +19

      I can, I've been using an 867mhz Titanium PowerBook G4 for a couple weeks now. It seems to work ok for most things. I'm using Aurora as my browser on it and I can watch RUclips pretty decently. A little buggy, but not too bad.

    • @AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet
      @AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet 8 лет назад +17

      This is obviously way obsolete now. But still capable of the same exact tasks that were shown in the video.
      The problem is inability to run any remotely complex modern program on that hardware and the fact that it's so old means that it will break, and repair would be hard to find and economically inadequate.

    • @HarryPujols
      @HarryPujols 8 лет назад +14

      These laptops are very easy to find, so repairing them and upgrading them is a breeze. They may not run the latest software, but they can still do most of what new software can do. Totally not obsolete yet.

    • @AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet
      @AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet 8 лет назад +2

      "so reparing and upgrading them is a breeze" - absolutely random conclusion that is not based on anything, unless you repaired the laptop lately. Since they are pretty cheap, a simple repair would cost more than a new device. Collecting spare parts, doing diagnostics and microelectronics work for almost nothing - no sane service man would do that. That's true even for a lot more newer laptops.
      "still can do most what new software does" - bs, they can't. Not enough juice to run modern tasks even if there for some reason was some obsolete developer who would still continue it. Unless of course text editors is your "most modern software".
      overall this is a case of a fan who bases his judgement on his tech faith and religion rather than simple facts.

    • @HarryPujols
      @HarryPujols 8 лет назад

      Alexey Filippenko sorry, because your random conclusion isn't it more random? You know that it only takes to figure it out yourself lmgtfy.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ifixit.com%2FDevice%2FiBook_G4

  • @FastBenny
    @FastBenny 4 года назад +245

    "a week with a g4 - are they obsolete?" in 2010
    me still using my iBook to watch movies in 2020
    nope
    Edit: 2023 and it still works just fine.

    • @exploregadgets1774
      @exploregadgets1774 4 года назад +9

      I also use my powerbook g4 to watch movies with Ubuntu.

    • @lps8216
      @lps8216 4 года назад +5

      I use an old Mac mini to us Mac OS server

    • @minicyan7364
      @minicyan7364 4 года назад +2

      Me packing my dell into a empty g4 shell: I use a g4

    • @FastBenny
      @FastBenny 4 года назад +1

      @@exploregadgets1774 i mean it functions perfectly as a movie player and even internet browser

    • @exploregadgets1774
      @exploregadgets1774 4 года назад +1

      @@FastBenny No way my powerbook which is superior to the ibook struggles to load every site in tenfourfox .

  • @The8BitGuy
    @The8BitGuy  11 лет назад +18

    The most reliable ones seem to be the G3 clamshells and the G4 units that were made up to 1.2 Ghz. The 1.33 and 1.42 ghz iBooks often suffer from the airport lockup problem.

    • @Bfm359
      @Bfm359 Год назад +2

      Please, do more of these videos about old macs and if they are obsolete ! I beg you.

  • @bloogies2764
    @bloogies2764 7 лет назад +67

    7:00 is sounds like he is about to cry

  • @BastetFurry
    @BastetFurry 8 лет назад +349

    Care to repeat this in 2016? :D

    • @BastetFurry
      @BastetFurry 8 лет назад +9

      +ExoticXT, not in the slightest, i might be tempted to try to live one week with a RasPi3 running Raspbian, just for the heck of it.

    • @BastetFurry
      @BastetFurry 8 лет назад

      *****, i should mention that i am a Linux user and run Lubuntu on my desktop, even for gaming. ;)

    • @boxingmaster2663
      @boxingmaster2663 8 лет назад +5

      +Bastet Furry Linux is a virus

    • @TheSavage3.6
      @TheSavage3.6 8 лет назад

      +Bastet Furry Don't hate me but i like Mac :3

    • @xshadow_lep0r3d86
      @xshadow_lep0r3d86 8 лет назад

      LOL

  • @hyun-shik7327
    @hyun-shik7327 Год назад +19

    Crazy that this video is now older than these computers were at the time.

    • @Kennephone
      @Kennephone 9 месяцев назад

      It's older now than even the first imac was back then

  • @The8BitGuy
    @The8BitGuy  14 лет назад +4

    @Chipudnik - The key was converting all of the clips over to the AIC codec BEFORE importing them into final-cut-pro. If I had not done that, it would have been misery trying to edit them.

  • @duncanmurphy8085
    @duncanmurphy8085 6 лет назад +105

    "720p High Definition" my how time flies

    • @somerandomguy5977
      @somerandomguy5977 4 года назад +14

      720p is HD, 1080p is full HD 4k is Ultra HD, you get the point. 720p is literally always going to be HD

    • @somerandomguy5977
      @somerandomguy5977 4 года назад +4

      @@heyiamparker not RUclips's opinion. 720p will always be HD. 480p will always be standard definition if you live in North America. I shouldn't have to explain it twice, they add shit in front of it to clarify. Standard definition 480, HD 720, full HD 1080, ultra HD 4k. Don't be a fucking idiot. I don't care if you don't think it's not HD enough to be HD it's not an opinion.

    • @kalinstephens5832
      @kalinstephens5832 4 года назад +2

      Some Random Guy sure 720 is HD, it’s still terrible. It gets you by if you’re in a jam.

    • @IoIxD
      @IoIxD 4 года назад +2

      Yep, there is no way a sane person can edit a 1080p video on an iBook now, it would lag so much. A 4K video would just crash the computer.

    • @Memphis229-f6m
      @Memphis229-f6m 4 года назад

      this is when it was a feature

  • @JoaoAzevedoGeek
    @JoaoAzevedoGeek 9 лет назад +844

    This Video is already obsolete

  • @deraffeaufyoutube
    @deraffeaufyoutube 3 года назад +12

    "Just one more reason I'd like adobe flash to disappear" Your wish has been granted. A decade later, but still granted.

  • @obsoletegeek
    @obsoletegeek 9 лет назад +78

    I have a mint and boxed iBook G4 with similar specs as the one you featured in this video! I've been considering pulling it out and trying some alternative PPC operating systems. Amiga OS being one of them

    • @Memphis229-f6m
      @Memphis229-f6m 7 лет назад +1

      Oh my gosh

    • @MusicFilmArtLover
      @MusicFilmArtLover 6 лет назад +2

      Great video. I would love for you do an update video on this same laptop!

    • @abbythings
      @abbythings 6 лет назад +1

      Do you still have it?

  • @The8BitGuy
    @The8BitGuy  11 лет назад +6

    The best way is to put the Leopard DVD in the drive and startup from that disc, format the hard drive before the install. You get a nice clean install that way.

  • @Legacy20999
    @Legacy20999 9 лет назад +24

    Woah I didnt realise this video was that old until the date popped up on the screen.

  • @The8BitGuy
    @The8BitGuy  14 лет назад +4

    @HarryMatic - It would run even better if you'd upgrade it to 10.3.9. They made huge improvements in speed over 10.2.8.

  • @LysiX
    @LysiX 6 лет назад +16

    1:23 "top of the line" picks up an ibook g4 instead of a powerbook g4

    • @lilorangefella
      @lilorangefella 4 года назад

      He mentioned in his iBook vs MacBook video that it was very rare for him to have a Powerbook G4 or a MacBook Pro since he didn't collect those machines at the time.

  • @DeviceEnforcer
    @DeviceEnforcer 9 лет назад +63

    G4 vs G4:
    iBook G4 with 1.42 GHz processor and 1.5 GB RAM
    LG G4 with 2.5 GHz processor and 3 GB RAM

    • @AimarAzisTV
      @AimarAzisTV 9 лет назад +1

      +F_L_A_M_E lol

    • @wimlex762
      @wimlex762 9 лет назад +25

      +DeviceEnforcer don't compare processor speeds from different brands and architectures, that's not how it works

    • @dinosaurgamers1860
      @dinosaurgamers1860 9 лет назад

      +DeviceEnforcer XD

    • @vaghatz
      @vaghatz 9 лет назад +1

      +DeviceEnforcer Haha, very funny, now go back to your basement

    • @rwinkle1185
      @rwinkle1185 9 лет назад +1

      the LG G4 has a 1.8 GHz processor

  • @pashikcraft
    @pashikcraft 11 лет назад +10

    "Just one more reason I'd like to see Adobe Flash disappear!"
    As a GNU/Linux user I have to do naught, but to agree :)

  • @Evan2
    @Evan2 9 лет назад +15

    2:08 So wait, you processed 720p video on the iBook? Not bad.

    • @PackardKotch
      @PackardKotch 4 года назад

      ive seen core 2 duos struggle with youtube at 720p

  • @lopeo2324
    @lopeo2324 4 года назад +10

    4:51 Well your wish is coming true.

  • @LeilaniGarcia1
    @LeilaniGarcia1 4 года назад +4

    Glad you got the 1mil subscriber you deserved. I knew this channel since 2011 and wondered why no was watching the brilliant content

    • @Dyl_Apple
      @Dyl_Apple 3 года назад

      I’ve been watching since 2016 and his channel definitely had more viewers than it did in 2011 but I thought the same thing, I was wondering how he didn’t have a million subs I think he was about 300k or 500k at the time

  • @JoyOfficer003
    @JoyOfficer003 9 лет назад +6

    Back when this video was put out, I was using a G4 as my laptop. It was a gift because the desktop PC I had died. It was fine for a few months, until I needed to do some college work on Adobe software...the older versions I found didn't have working cracks so to keep using them I had to keep setting back the date on the G4 so the trail would never expire but that caused problems as it would make Safari think that security certificates were not real and block them all. So using the internet and Adobe was out of the question. The things I had to do because of that laptop...the battery was fucked as well, didn't last 20 Mins.

  • @XtremeConditions
    @XtremeConditions 9 лет назад +19

    The biggest thing I'm wondering here is... How the FUCK were the PowerPC G4 processors so powerful!?
    I bought a cheap laptop (Gateway M-1624) back in... '09, or so? And it struggles to edit 720p. Which isn't a problem, because I build a custom rig, AMD FX-8350, and it's been great... But still...
    I remember ReviewTechUSA talking about this back in the day, and why he didn't like Apple anymore. And how PowerPC-based apple computers were expensive in this day, because they had epic performance, and were significantly better than the competition. I'd say that seems to be true.
    But the way it was shown here? There must have been something amazing going on at IBM at the time, and even now. Look at those graphene chips they're making. Incredible stuff, that is.

    • @sarahts21
      @sarahts21 9 лет назад +2

      XtremeConditioning The answer to your question is... AltiVec. It's basically the equivalent of the Intel MMX instruction set for PPC hardware and was actually a LOT more grunty than MMX and a lot more used. Final Cut and such were basically using a dedicated chunk of silicon that exists to accelerate video/audio editing and rendering.
      I did a ton of transcoding videos in 2012 and an old G5 iMac was running rings around Core 2 Duo machines.

    • @XtremeConditions
      @XtremeConditions 9 лет назад

      Sissy Hmm... That does make a lot more sense now. Thanks for that info, Sissy!

    • @XtremeConditions
      @XtremeConditions 9 лет назад

      Sissy Oh, btw, in today's day, when you see CPU's advertised as having built-in features regarding rendering etc, is that truly the same concept, or is it different from having a dedicated piece of CPU doing those processes?

    • @sarahts21
      @sarahts21 9 лет назад

      Unless its specifically saying 'handoff' then its the CPU doing it rather than a dedicated chunk of silicon. Most of the extensions to a CPU (SSE, etc.) these days are for the most part juggling the path a given instruction will take to speed it up or send it to a specific part of the processor (like its floating point unit).

    • @MrJ0mmy
      @MrJ0mmy 9 лет назад

      ***** its the codec and setting used

  • @sheabaee180
    @sheabaee180 2 года назад +5

    PPC users in 2010: So i can edit HD video and watch youtube
    PPC users in 2022: I can access googles mobile site at the speed of a 56k modem

  • @alexisgeovann
    @alexisgeovann 8 лет назад +37

    Can it run minesweeper and GTA V at max 4k settings?

    • @lhk7006
      @lhk7006 8 лет назад +2

      you serious?

    • @lhk7006
      @lhk7006 8 лет назад +2

      Fucking GTA on 4k on a ??? year old *laptop* running *OS X*?

    • @brokepetrolhead6065
      @brokepetrolhead6065 8 лет назад +19

      gta v maybe, but definitely not minesweeper.

    • @lhk7006
      @lhk7006 8 лет назад +1

      Dat Honda Kid I don't think GTA V is playable on this laptop

    • @brokepetrolhead6065
      @brokepetrolhead6065 8 лет назад +11

      Come on. The guy is obviously joking.

  • @RyanLeanardoe
    @RyanLeanardoe 9 лет назад +18

    Should re-do this video, and then tell us.

  • @TechDeals
    @TechDeals 8 лет назад +32

    :) Wow, nice video... Ok, old now, over 5 years old, but still cool...
    I'll bet an iBook would still run just fine today, if you're ok staying with those versions of programs. Web pages would be slower of course, the web has become rather busy in terms of page design, but otherwise, those were made nice.
    Since you do PC stuff now, try the same thing on a Core2Duo, you might find it also does a good job. I have a Core2Quad Q6600 with a 40GB Intel SSD in it and 4GB of RAM and Windows 10 installed on it and it is shocking useful today, even in 2016. They can also be purchased for next to nothing on eBay (under $100).

    • @joshuamast5128
      @joshuamast5128 3 года назад

      Linux is better for older computers

    • @TechDeals
      @TechDeals 2 года назад

      Wild to reply to myself 5 years later... this just goes to show how perspectives change with time.

  • @iant720
    @iant720 9 лет назад +15

    Only Obsolete because of flash. Just like the G5. It's kinda sad. I'm glad you can run Linux on them!

    • @paianis
      @paianis 9 лет назад +3

      +Ian Thompson RUclips uses HTML5 for video now, so the problems he had aren't relevant now.

    • @Kippykip
      @Kippykip 6 лет назад +1

      Now flash is obsolete itself

    • @Tom2404
      @Tom2404 4 года назад

      Flash is sadly turned off in a few months killing thousands of games and media websites that many people put lots of work and effort into making just because Adobe says so. Now that flash is not an issue for those old Apple devices anymore RUclips and even Wikipedia still won't run on those old browsers. I think it's sad that they don't work as intended only because of outdated webbrowsers. Same with Windows XP, 2000 and 98. Back in the 80's you could buy a computer and you knew it could still work as intended (if it's not physically damaged of course) in 30 years and all software you bought back then would start up in 2020 just as it was supposed to do in 1985. Now you buy something and from day one it's basically waiting how long it takes before some big tech companies slowly start to strip your device of most of it's features. Web browsing? Forget it, your browser is too old now. You want to run Apps you bought back in the day on your iPhone 3G? No way it runs on iOS 4, maybe you can have an old version if the developer thinks that you as their customer are still worthy enought to get what you paid for back in 2010. Mobile network? Nope, 2G and 3G get turned off in favour of 5G because then you can sell expensive 5G contracts to wealthy early adopters with $1000 smartphones.

  • @narenchris711
    @narenchris711 3 года назад +6

    2020: "watching 2010 video in 2020 -- is it obsolete?'

  • @lbonini1gaming
    @lbonini1gaming 9 лет назад +22

    My eMac from 2002, (700Mhz, PowerPC G4) running OS X Tiger 10.4.11 can officially be considered obsolete.
    Web browsing is a pain, lag is an issue if you have multiple tabs open and there's lag even while browsing normal websites such as Google results or news websites. Not to mention the browsers for it are ALL out of date.
    Flash, while very bad as is, doesn't work at all and RUclips continues to break on the PowerPC platform as time goes on. I installed YouView and MacTubes but after switching ISP's, those apps don't work and "time out"
    The latest iTunes isn't compatible with Tiger or the eMac and so newer iPhones/iPods and iPads will NOT work with the computer. You can still listen to music though and you can also listen to music via Spotify, but I'm not sure for how much longer it'll be available on the PowerPC.
    Office work is possible but the latest version you'll be able to run MS Office is 2008 or earlier.
    Not many Mac users play games but if you were wondering, modern games won't work and even games like Minecraft won't work either.
    If you're going to buy one of these, don't expect them to work for everything you need, they're very nice computers just now very obsolete even with a 1GB RAM upgrade.

    • @Happytylermovieproducction
      @Happytylermovieproducction 9 лет назад

      My ibook g3 clamshell from 1999 with 400mhz cpu and mac os 9.11 are more obsolete

    • @lbonini1gaming
      @lbonini1gaming 9 лет назад

      Very true.
      Cool looking computer though.

    • @dumbfishtanks
      @dumbfishtanks 9 лет назад

      I use an iMac from 2006 (One of the first intel ones) and surprising it runs really well. I use OS X Lion on it and every thing works fine, even RUclips runs fine in HD videos. I can even run Minecraft pretty well with little lag

    • @Happytylermovieproducction
      @Happytylermovieproducction 9 лет назад

      My uncle have a 2006 imac using core 2 duo

    • @whateverk.3728
      @whateverk.3728 9 лет назад

      lbonini1gaming Well, its from 2002. Of course it'll be slow as f***. The eMac's that are NOT obsolete are the ones that have 1Ghz or faster processors-they will run just fine.

  • @lmntcrnstn4970
    @lmntcrnstn4970 6 лет назад +1

    I scrolled down on comments but didn't see anyone else mentioning the inferior "live" audio. Voice-over sounded good, as did 5:20 (Web Cam footage).

  • @SugaryTube
    @SugaryTube 8 лет назад +1

    This is my favorite tech channel! You have the same way of thinking as I do sir! I need devices that do basic stuff just decent! Keep up the good work!

  • @newbleppmore7855
    @newbleppmore7855 10 месяцев назад +3

    what happened to youtube? its so clunky and resource heavy even though the videos are generally the same 720p

    • @LegoWormNoah101
      @LegoWormNoah101 5 месяцев назад

      As hardware and software gets better, businesses add more stuff that newer systems can handle, while the old stuff gets obsolete

  • @RichLux713
    @RichLux713 8 лет назад +8

    DO YOU HAVE A EBAY where you sell your laptops

  • @andrew_sar
    @andrew_sar 2 года назад +3

    Can we do an updated version of this in 2022?

  • @EdCayo
    @EdCayo 2 месяца назад +2

    Just realized this video is 13 years old, I was like woahhhhh can they still work?! No

  • @mlthmp
    @mlthmp Год назад

    I remember watching this video when it came out. The channel has come along way!

  • @withthemates9233
    @withthemates9233 9 лет назад +59

    technology from early 2000s really does not age well.

    • @jonaspaulius2
      @jonaspaulius2 9 лет назад +13

      +BornOfDalek What are you talking about? I'm still using my ps2 and I think it aged very well.

    • @jimbeitz6682
      @jimbeitz6682 9 лет назад +1

      +something yeah i loved those things

    • @CocoTehQuila
      @CocoTehQuila 9 лет назад +4

      +something The Playstation 2 was the best console ever created. period.

    • @jimbeitz6682
      @jimbeitz6682 9 лет назад

      Coco disk drive did die on me a few times but other than that it was amazing

    • @jonaspaulius2
      @jonaspaulius2 9 лет назад

      Mine bought in 2001 still works flawlessly to this day.

  • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
    @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 10 лет назад +12

    This iBook would be fine for internet browsing if web standards weren't updated every 5 minutes! People TRY to make computers obsolete. At least you can still do non-internet work on old computers. This iBook G4 is still more technologically advanced than a Windows laptop from the last few years.

    • @thatguyontheright1
      @thatguyontheright1 10 лет назад +1

      I have a Mac Mini G4, and I run morphOS on it, really brings out the power of the machine, it is just snappier than it was when it ran Tiger or Leopard.

    • @thatguyontheright1
      @thatguyontheright1 10 лет назад

      Depends on the version. Its 111 Euro ($151) for the Powerbook, Ibook, PowerMac G5. 79 Euro ($108) for the eMac, Mac Mini, and the PowerMac G4.
      The thing is, PPC distros of linux aren't well supported. MorphOS may be $100 (an OEM copy of Windows 8 is $100 so yea), but when you register, every new version is given to you for free.

    • @funnydurant
      @funnydurant 10 лет назад

      i still use mine as of today!

    • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
      @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 10 лет назад

      Jeffrey Baughman
      I do realize that the processor is old. However, there are plenty of things that bog down an old computer on the internet, and most don't lead up to the speed of the computer, but the almost zero compatibility it has with the new programs that it has to load, such as Flash.

    • @funnydurant
      @funnydurant 10 лет назад

      Well i have a powerbook g4 and it wont even connect to my broadband it just sits there because i use internet for about everything i do.

  • @EpicPaperclip
    @EpicPaperclip 9 лет назад +4

    Why dont you people look at the date this was uploaded before commenting... the video was uploaded almost 5 years ago.

  • @John-pr2gw
    @John-pr2gw 3 месяца назад +2

    Still occasionally use my G4 Emac. Installed an SSD with Sorbet Leopard. tenFiveTube can still play RUclips video at 720p..

  • @Thenormalone7610
    @Thenormalone7610 10 месяцев назад

    Hey man, love your videos, I have watched them since I was a kid. Time flies. I don’t know why the RUclips algorithm recommended me this 13 years old video but here I am

  • @icecreamjunkie6790
    @icecreamjunkie6790 6 лет назад +5

    Love your videos David. Keep up the good work! And thank God RUclips started using HTML5 instead of Adobe Flash, but unfortunately many other websites still use it. Apple should implement it into iOS.

  • @bloogies2764
    @bloogies2764 8 лет назад +4

    7:00 did he sound like he was about to cry

  • @bobtheblob2770
    @bobtheblob2770 4 года назад +5

    crazy that he said 720p high definition

  • @mylofryett9160
    @mylofryett9160 5 лет назад +1

    First one of your vids I ever watched I’ve watched been a subscriber since this video

  • @kabj06
    @kabj06 8 лет назад +2

    Reminds me of how great the internet was only 6 years ago. I had a PowerMac G4 Quicksilver with a dual 1.2 Ghz (I think, might've been 1Ghz) Sonnet G4 upgrade and a Radeon 9800 GPU. Ran as well as anything else I had and was fast enough to be my main machine. Didn't notice any differences in speed between it and my 13" MBP for iTunes, web browsing, and even 3D gaming.

  • @JZB-2022
    @JZB-2022 4 года назад +3

    "In 720p high-definition, by the way" Ahh good old 2010.

  • @baltimoreclarkie
    @baltimoreclarkie 7 лет назад +6

    "I connected my iPhone 3G." *Looks at upload date.* Oh.....

  • @Uncircuited
    @Uncircuited 3 года назад +4

    wait...
    2010 was 11 years ago...?

  • @NickoBlayde
    @NickoBlayde 8 лет назад +2

    wow you've lost a lot of weight since this. i love your videos!

  • @StevenChristie
    @StevenChristie 2 года назад +2

    finding this video is like uncovering a relic

  • @samatics4
    @samatics4 9 лет назад +3

    hi former ibookguy, I have a question on a ppc, I want to buy a Powermac g5 off craigslist with no HDD, is there any way I can see if the machine works without a HDD? I have one to put in it but I don't wanna buy a broken g5. thanks ahead of time.

    • @AimarAzisTV
      @AimarAzisTV 9 лет назад +1

      +// Petro Sailor even though I'm not the ibookguy i can still help u. My suggestion is not to buy it because without the HDD there will be no OS on the mac so it won't even work. or What u can do is, if u are willing to buy a HDD seprately u can install windows xp or 7 on it since Apple does not provide OS install disks.

    • @samatics4
      @samatics4 9 лет назад

      8Bit World Of Awesomeness thanks for the reply. i have decided not to buy it because it is a little fishy. and i have a hdd to use with it but ide have to install os x on it. and since its a g5, windows sadly wont work on it. thanks for the info

  • @mattthompson6281
    @mattthompson6281 9 лет назад +7

    I still use my black macbook from 08...works like the day I first took it out of the box.

    • @RembertoBeltran
      @RembertoBeltran 9 лет назад

      Matt Thompson I have a white model that I gave to my father and he still uses it as well!

    • @SuperOctimusprime
      @SuperOctimusprime 9 лет назад

      ***** Everything is still good in them.. except the battery

    • @mattthompson6281
      @mattthompson6281 9 лет назад

      ***** not because they're intel....my iMac g4 20" is still the power house it was from the box...

    • @eepymeowers
      @eepymeowers 7 лет назад

      Matt Thompson good for you

  • @Smurf431
    @Smurf431 10 лет назад +8

    I am sitting here on a Late 2004 iBook G4, maxed out, running 10.5.8, and believe me it pretty much sucks for surfing the net because of all the flash & Java....but for email, forums, & social sites it works well most of the time.
    The OS with iLife & iWork is fine for what I need everyday, battery life is good, screen is great, and it cost $90 shipped....who am I to complain?!

    • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
      @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 10 лет назад +2

      Here is the main reason why computers, as they get older, suck at internet surfing: Web standards change all the time for some stupid reason. Annoying companies like Google do it all the time. They update things so frequently that everything just gets slower and slower. Top that off with Flash Flash and more Flash and your computer is getting obsolete faster and faster. If we had left the web alone and not updated web standards for no apparent reason, we'd be able to surf the web fine on 10+ year old computers. Flash needs to die and the web needs to stop being updated every 5 minutes. Having a computer be slow on the web is practically the #1 reason why computers get obsolete so fast to users. If someone's computer cannot surf fast enough, they don't want to deal with it anymore.

    • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
      @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 10 лет назад

      *****
      Even with all that, most things are slower than necessary. The worst offender is Google; everything they create is updated for no reason and lags a ton.

    • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
      @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 10 лет назад +1

      Hugo El appelero
      Google Chrome is horrible, especially for Mac. I would try Safari or Firefox.

    • @RyanFudgeRush
      @RyanFudgeRush 10 лет назад

      maccollectorZ (Commenting Account)
      firefox i think is best as im typing this from my core duo macbook 1,1 running osx lion and as ive tried all three ! Hugo PowerPC Fanboy chrome does still run on core duo macs but they are now giving a warning that it'll soon be un supported

    • @RyanFudgeRush
      @RyanFudgeRush 10 лет назад

      i know -_-

  • @VA3DSO
    @VA3DSO 5 лет назад

    Great video! And you know what? Last weekend I left my MacBook Pro at work accidentally, and being the lazy fellow that I am, I pulled out my 12" iBook G4 (1.2GHz, 1.5GB RAM, 60GB HDD) and I was amazed at how well it still worked... in 2019!!! I use TenFourFox and Tiger Webkit to surf the web, VLC to watch videos, iTunes worked fine for playing music (locally on the HDD), and I could even run Starry Night 5 which I used to plan an observing session with my telescope on the weekend. I'm not saying I'd use the G4 as my only computer, but it certainly filled in admirably for my MBP for a weekend. An awesome testament to the longevity of some Apple products. Cheers!

  • @sriramsundar8388
    @sriramsundar8388 4 года назад +2

    The iBook was 6 years old at the time of this video.
    However this video is around a decade old.
    This iBook is now over 15 years old!

  • @RyanRosenberg
    @RyanRosenberg 7 лет назад +5

    Repeat this in 2017?

  • @luaerve
    @luaerve 3 года назад +3

    "high definition 720p video"
    yes sir, very, very very high definition for me.

  • @super_slav91
    @super_slav91 10 лет назад +13

    For some reason I like powerpc mac's, I think Apple lost allot of their uniqueness after the switch to intel, I want a powermac g5 but they are hard to find near me.

    • @IHPU0
      @IHPU0 9 лет назад

      I sell a powerbook G4.

    • @TheOrangeType
      @TheOrangeType 9 лет назад +2

      Jason C. A 2.5GHz processor will be utterly destroyed by a 1.5GHz processor from 2010, let alone 2015. Its 10 year old technology, its not going to be fast. I don't know where you got "Fast, even by todays standards" from but its not true.
      It may not be *slow* when doing light stuff like browsing the web, but put anything that needs more power than a hamster on a running wheel can provide(i.e playing HD) it will stutter like a bitch.

    • @TheOrangeType
      @TheOrangeType 9 лет назад

      ***** WOW yes.

    • @TheOrangeType
      @TheOrangeType 9 лет назад +2

      ***** Sorry am i not joining in on you lot circle jerking over your old outdated hardware? Trying hard to convince yourself its as good as todays tech? Sorry. The G5 Macs can play Battle Field 4 like a gaming PC and export 1090p in seconds.

    • @TheOrangeType
      @TheOrangeType 9 лет назад

      ***** Circle Jerking? Needs to be more than one person to be a circle Jerk session my friend.
      Also, I wasn't praising new hardware, just condemning the old stuff that is horrifically out dated and obsolete. Its fact that a modern, under clocked, CPU will beat a CPU of 10 years ago even if its massively over clocked in comparison.
      Is stating fact circle Jerking?

  • @pol1250
    @pol1250 8 лет назад +1

    you put a lot of work in these videos...respect!!!

  • @dorontsur
    @dorontsur 7 лет назад

    Your optimism is inspiring!

  • @Dyl_Apple
    @Dyl_Apple 3 года назад +3

    4:53 and your wish came true...

  • @mrscuffy1243
    @mrscuffy1243 8 лет назад +267

    who's still watching in 2017?

  • @sharko_tv_be
    @sharko_tv_be Год назад +3

    This video is older than 95% of TikTok's userbase

  • @Tom2404
    @Tom2404 4 года назад +1

    The quality is outstanding for 2010. If there was no date given I'd guess this video was made in 2013/14.

  • @FilCanJay
    @FilCanJay 8 лет назад

    I have an old 12inch powerbook g4. I still love using it. Thanks for the tip on Camino and YouView! Brilliant.

  • @JonasKvale
    @JonasKvale 11 лет назад +21

    Watched this on an iBook G4

    • @JonasKvale
      @JonasKvale 11 лет назад +2

      I love my laptop! Worth it if your looking for an awesome older laptop.

    • @MCTVDeutschland
      @MCTVDeutschland 11 лет назад

      Jonas Kvale I've bought a Powerbook G4 because of this video. I just love my Laptop, although it's just my secondary laptop

    • @aquariums411
      @aquariums411 10 лет назад

      Jonas Kvale what browser do you use know have one kicking around but cant run most vids on youtube smoothly

    • @JonasKvale
      @JonasKvale 10 лет назад

      aquariums411 Don't use browsers to watch youtube on a G4 or other PowerPC processor. Use an app called MacTubes, and go into preferences and switch the player to QuickTime player. This will allow you to search videos in MacTubes and play them back without any lag or skips at all.

    • @aquariums411
      @aquariums411 10 лет назад

      Jonas Kvale thanks

  • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
    @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 10 лет назад +5

    I have two iBook G4s at the moment, both from 2003: 1.07Ghz and 800Mhz... Still more structurally advanced than a new Windows laptop.

    • @sidharthchand8072
      @sidharthchand8072 10 лет назад

      Bull shot can't upgrade memory or browsers they just phased out xp

    • @NicksLocker
      @NicksLocker 10 лет назад +3

      I have to disagree with that one, but iBooks are definitely very advanced structurally. They're so meticulously put together physically and are still very stable computers that will do most of your everyday things with no problem.

    • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
      @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 10 лет назад +1

      sidharth chand You can upgrade the memory; I have no idea what you are even talking about. You can also use alternative browsers. I am not talking about the operating system when I say that my 2003 iBooks G4s are way more structurally advanced than a middle-aged Windows laptop. And the only reason why XP lasted so long was: It took a long time to first develope Vista, so people got used to XP more and more, but then Vista sucked so bad that "downgrading" to XP was the norm and it didn't even count as being an OS behind Vista. Then Win 7 came out and since Vista was trash, it was like XP was only one OS behind, which isn't so bad. Then Windows 8 came out and people hated it, so AGAIN it was like XP was only one OS behind. The iBook G4 and its OS are not as compatible because the PowerPC architecture stopped being supported by Apple, and its operating system wasn't like XP, which survived a long time just because Vista sucked and Windows 8 wasn't too popular. The latest OSs you can run on the iBook are Tiger and Leopard, and they are still more advanced and pleasurable to use than Windows 7; it's just that Leopard is 7 years old and didn't have the luck that XP had. Apple doesn't take forever to make an OS and then have it suck, fix it, then break it again. I can definitely doubt the intellgence of Windows users here. How can you not realize why XP lasted so long? It's not as if it was just THAT good.

    • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
      @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 10 лет назад +3

      Nick Dellorto
      The biggest thing is that the iBook is clean. Most Windows laptops today are still chunky and lumpy and not symmetrical. Some still use cheap plastic latches, while the iBook introduced their special magnetic ones in 2001/2002. There are just so many design features that are ahead of their time. The early 2000s PowerBooks also had illuminated keyboards, but that is starting to appear on Windows laptops today. It's all hard to explain, but you know what I mean.

    • @TheSpike3000
      @TheSpike3000 10 лет назад

      maccollectorZ (Commenting Account)
      Nothing more true than that! Microsoft releases an OS after the months upon years of waiting, then even when it comes out it's basically unfinished and needs work, so people downgrade to the last OS, and more than likely that one has the same problems too. It's just a mess.

  • @alvzcizzler
    @alvzcizzler 9 лет назад +34

    Of course they are obsolete just like netbook.

    • @ilpatongi
      @ilpatongi 9 лет назад +12

      Nope. Not obsolete at all.... They work fine

    • @alvzcizzler
      @alvzcizzler 9 лет назад

      ShadowzPower Nope, Those things are old they are netbooks from Apple, those suck now.

    • @ilpatongi
      @ilpatongi 9 лет назад +14

      Cesar Alvarez HD iBooks were Notebooks...

    • @alvzcizzler
      @alvzcizzler 9 лет назад +2

      ShadowzPower Whatever, iBooks are obsolete.

    • @ilpatongi
      @ilpatongi 9 лет назад +10

      Cesar Alvarez HD You're implying that only because they're old.

  • @stanmccorkle
    @stanmccorkle 4 года назад +2

    Grateful for the video. I’d like to see you use one of these for a week now in 2020. I’m curious if there’s any Lennix platforms that would make this computer more useful today :)

  • @TheDoctorhome
    @TheDoctorhome 6 лет назад +2

    This needs an update tbh
    I've been rewatching this a lot like god damn.

  • @TumeV2
    @TumeV2 8 лет назад +20

    i think that g4 is a pretty good phone lol

    • @durike175
      @durike175 8 лет назад

      I just commented here is updated video of "iBookGuy´s" video.. Simple ..

  • @Ferrichrome
    @Ferrichrome 7 лет назад +7

    "In 720p high definition"
    Yep, 2010.

  • @Makalon102
    @Makalon102 8 лет назад +3

    these white ibooks are still the most sexiest laptops

  • @mikehill2221
    @mikehill2221 9 лет назад

    Fascinating video. Many thanks. Time to trawl through your back catalogue!

  • @davidhunter5802
    @davidhunter5802 8 лет назад +1

    Watching this channel makes me feel so lucky to have the things I have :)

  • @TEKCubed
    @TEKCubed 4 года назад +3

    Who’s here exactly 10 years later.

  • @NomadicDmitry
    @NomadicDmitry 4 года назад +3

    Hello from 2020. No, G4 is still not obsolette

    • @oliversakic5907
      @oliversakic5907 4 года назад +2

      true, I use still an iBook G4 for simple tasks and it works just fine. I bet if I where using it to watch HD RUclips videos in TenFourFox it would be unusable, but for checking E-mail, playing DVDs, playing flash games, checking the weather, creating word documents and syncing my iPod, it works just fine.

    • @NomadicDmitry
      @NomadicDmitry 3 года назад

      @@oliversakic5907 I've recently bought myself an iBook G4 just for playing DVDs and retro gaming possible. Cool stuff!

  • @samuelrasquinha6712
    @samuelrasquinha6712 6 лет назад +3

    2018??

  • @Zathauntie
    @Zathauntie 8 лет назад

    I love my g4 powerbook. Glad to have found this video. Here we are in 2016, any plans on an update for this topic? Thanks!

  • @HR-wd6cw
    @HR-wd6cw 3 года назад

    The one thing to keep in mind is that while the computers may be able to perform many of the tasks shown (of course, this video is now 10 years old) security may be of concern these days, and especially since many major browsers are no longer supported (or were never supported) on this era of Mac. So for offline use, it may be fine, but i personally wouldn't use anything like this online for anything serious (like business or personal) or anything relating to confidential information as I'm sure there are unpatched security holes that never got patched in software from this era (both in the OS and other applications), and a good example would be the updates made to OSes to protect older systems against Spectre and Meltdown or other hardware exploits that basically had to be patched at the software/OS level because it was not feasible or possible to patch at the hardware level (through firmware update).

  • @phucduong651
    @phucduong651 8 лет назад +4

    Can I run GTA V on that???

    • @lhk7006
      @lhk7006 8 лет назад +1

      jesus fucking Christ You can even run freaking Minecraft on that thing. The iBook G4 is from 1999 and you expect it to run GTA?

    • @phucduong651
      @phucduong651 8 лет назад

      L HK :P

    • @exodusscharf3278
      @exodusscharf3278 7 лет назад

      Yes

  • @ethanwilson7445
    @ethanwilson7445 8 лет назад +85

    ...And play games. *Has a Mac* What a joke.

  • @fluffzone6100
    @fluffzone6100 9 лет назад +11

    but why would you still buy this. You can just buy a much better computer for like 200$

    • @TheRandomBananaz
      @TheRandomBananaz 9 лет назад +24

      this video was made in 2010 so...

    • @MrJ0mmy
      @MrJ0mmy 9 лет назад +1

      The Ranting Squirrel ` well its still a good laptop for an average pc user who is only going to need to to surf the net watch some videos type documents ect

    • @fluffzone6100
      @fluffzone6100 9 лет назад

      MrJ0mmy Hmm.

    • @davidmenlo9305
      @davidmenlo9305 9 лет назад

      MrJ0mmy But you can get less lag and a more polished, newer os for a $200 machine today. But cheap machines are terrible for anything but wen browsing.

    • @MrJ0mmy
      @MrJ0mmy 9 лет назад

      David Menlo
      yeah my brand new laptop i got 2 week ago for 191.45 with free shipping from china is really good it has a 14.1 inch 1920 x 1080p screen GMA 3600/3650 cpu is Intel Celeron 2840 dual core 2.16GHz 500gb hdd 4gb ram ddr3
      for such a cheap price its an amazing laptop

  • @icraftcrafts8685
    @icraftcrafts8685 2 года назад

    I just got on of these. 11 years after your video :)

  • @NoName-ut3ny
    @NoName-ut3ny 8 лет назад +1

    i honestly luv your vids man keep it up

  • @based_kujoproductions
    @based_kujoproductions 4 года назад +3

    r/agedlikemilk

  • @thechaindude1320
    @thechaindude1320 9 лет назад +3

    I am your 375,000th view!

  • @supernintendo9398
    @supernintendo9398 8 лет назад +3

    I hate apple. Way over priced!

  • @MikeLikesChannel
    @MikeLikesChannel 3 года назад

    My first Mac. Early 2004 iBook - ended up working for Apple for 7 years, currently a JamfPro admin. I owe it all to that little white laptop.

  • @cremdelecreme
    @cremdelecreme 9 лет назад

    Any chance you can do a short vid on the G3 Tower or one of the Mac minis? I'm curious as to whether they are either upgradable or of any worth as I have both sitting in my closet. Cheers!

  • @songbirdd201
    @songbirdd201 8 лет назад +1

    Great video, it gave me hope for a bit with my G4 but I've got to replace the fans, optical drive, hard drive and battery. Some one told me at a store, not to bother with it and throw it away.

  • @floppaturnt
    @floppaturnt 8 лет назад +2

    Did the webcam work when you were scoping out some poon on Chat Roulette?

  • @justinwilliams7804
    @justinwilliams7804 4 года назад

    So weird to be watching this again a decade later. I still have my iBook G4. Web browsing works okay with ten four fox, but I still use it for office software and whatnot and it works great!

  • @shootermcgavin214
    @shootermcgavin214 3 года назад +1

    Dang you was doing it before all these RUclipsrs were testing out the computers and giving these reviews

  • @chrisparks100
    @chrisparks100 8 лет назад

    I am glad to say that I decided to keep my iMac G4 it has saved my bacon on so many occasions, especially when my '06 Mac Pro was having issues with corruption, It's also still useful for audio recording via midi to usb.