Thanks! It was very soft! After the first fired round I thought something was wrong with it. I have a number of other 20" rifles and none of them shoot this smooth!
Since the video I have removed the offending Colt trigger and installed a Geissele SSA. Have ordered an extra A2 sight post and will be shaving it down .060" to .200" - .210" from .270". This will allow me to adjust the front sight post down about 4 clicks from flush to hit the bullseye at the 25 meter zero. Right now it's buried about 12 to 14 clicks. Measured everything else on the front end and it's all in spec. Rifle just shoots low for some other reason. Thought about reindexing the rear drum but decided to leave it alone as it's mechanically correct. Wondering if there might be an issue with the barrel extension receiver fitment but I'm not that worried about it to take it apart. Lol!
@@peteregger7928 Accurate,100% function and 4 O'clock ejection...nothing wrong with that rifle! I just took out my most recent M4 clone build today to test fire and zero. I was checking that. No failures to function, locked open on an empty mag every time and 4 O'clock ejection...and all the brass would have landed in a hat.
@@peteregger7928 Thanks for posting, I'm thinking about putting together a "cook book" with recipes in it such as your build and others I find that work out well. Just for fun. You made it look a little to easy with this one for sure. Thanks again Pete.
Thanks T.G. Some trial and error on parts along the way! My calipers are about worn out checking part dimensions and QC. I remember a time when you could almost rely on manufacturers and not have to worry to much. Those days are long gone!@@Turning-Guns
Can't believe how soft it shoots! I almost thought about checking for a squib after the first shot! Lol! Wasn't even trying real hard to be accurate. This rifle is a diamond!
Nice when it all goes as planned on the money. I'd like to put my order in for a clone of your clone. What is your turn around time on that? Lol. The new A4 Colt sells for a grand round here. Were you able to build your clone near that price? Also, thanks for the 855 comparison. When I started my carry handle sight journey all the reading about the bdc was around the 855. Would like to see you stretch out to 100 for some 5-10 shot groups on a calm day. Sorry if I'm getting long winded. But, wanted to ask how you sight picture? Not sure of the right way, I'm trying just to barely have the horizontal part of front base in picture. Thanks again.
Front sight post and ears centered in the peep. I place the top of the post right under where I'm trying to hit so I don't obstruct my intended point of aim. From there I see where it hits and make adjustments to the front sight post to get it as close as I can. Some people prefer to just cover what they are trying to hit but for me that method is less precise. With the clone build using the 1:8 Criterion I didn't see any POA/POI change between the M193 and M855. I thought that was surprising as there was a velocity difference on the box besides the bullet weight. I'll take it though! The Colt with the 1:7 did show a drop of about 1/2" with the M855 which is what I would have expected with both rifles. I plan to stretch things out a bit with the Colt in the near future. I measured everything on the front end and it's in spec so it just shoots low for some other reason. I have ordered a couple of extra A2 sight posts and plan to shorten one about .060" which will be .200" - .210" post height. Depending on who you believe .260" - .270" is A2 STD height. This should get me about 4 clicks down from flush and the bullseye at 25 meters. Post travel is .007" per click on a STD A2. The barrel alone on the clone was $268.00. Having the front sight base installed by Trajectory Arms after shipping both ways was $130.00. Parts not included. No way I stayed under a grand.
The bottom shelf of the FSB where it meets the bottom of the ears is just lined up with the bottom of the small aperture peep so you just can't quite see it. This places the top of the sight post right in the middle of the small aperture opening for me. If I'm using the large aperture I try to get the top of the front sight post right in the middle of the aperture and you will see the entire top portion of the sight base. I generally use the small aperture only especially when target shooting knowing it will hit lower close up. The large aperture is a disaster for precision work and I personally consider it "minute of man" for really close up shots. Being marked for 0-200 and beyond 50 yards for any real precision is very optimistic I think. Very difficult to consistently keep things centered with the large aperture. Others that really know what they are doing may have a different technique but this is what works for me. @@Allenmar73
Loving the clone build! Sure does look like a very soft shooter 👍
Thanks! It was very soft! After the first fired round I thought something was wrong with it. I have a number of other 20" rifles and none of them shoot this smooth!
Great vid and shooting! We are spoiled by modern triggers.
Since the video I have removed the offending Colt trigger and installed a Geissele SSA. Have ordered an extra A2 sight post and will be shaving it down .060" to .200" - .210" from .270". This will allow me to adjust the front sight post down about 4 clicks from flush to hit the bullseye at the 25 meter zero. Right now it's buried about 12 to 14 clicks. Measured everything else on the front end and it's all in spec. Rifle just shoots low for some other reason. Thought about reindexing the rear drum but decided to leave it alone as it's mechanically correct. Wondering if there might be an issue with the barrel extension receiver fitment but I'm not that worried about it to take it apart. Lol!
Pete that’s a nice clone build buddy, enjoying your builds
Thanks! It's the smoothest shooting AR that I have to date. The sights came in mechanically zeroed right from the start!
Great update Pete, the build looks great man! Awesome group!
Thanks! Really happy with it! Need to figure out what's going on with the Colt now!
I was waiting for this one.
You sold me on which barrel I will use. 👍
Good job on the build!
Thanks Gary! The "Clone A2" really performed well for me! I was commenting to others it shot so soft I thought something was wrong with!
@@peteregger7928 Accurate,100% function and 4 O'clock ejection...nothing wrong with that rifle!
I just took out my most recent M4 clone build today to test fire and zero. I was checking that. No failures to function, locked open on an empty mag every time and 4 O'clock ejection...and all the brass would have landed in a hat.
Nice! Your M4 clone sounds very consistent!@@garyK.45ACP
Love your new build, fantastic work Pete. Lazer!
Really happy with how well it shoots! Wasn't even trying that hard today! Thanks for watching and commenting T.G.
@@peteregger7928 Thanks for posting, I'm thinking about putting together a "cook book" with recipes in it such as your build and others I find that work out well. Just for fun. You made it look a little to easy with this one for sure. Thanks again Pete.
Thanks T.G. Some trial and error on parts along the way! My calipers are about worn out checking part dimensions and QC. I remember a time when you could almost rely on manufacturers and not have to worry to much. Those days are long gone!@@Turning-Guns
Nice work.
I Knew It 😀😀😀 It’s a Tack Driver Pete 😀😊😇😇😇
Thanks Chris! I wasn't even trying that hard today!
Ohhh Yea 😀😊❤️
Can't believe how soft it shoots! I almost thought about checking for a squib after the first shot! Lol! Wasn't even trying real hard to be accurate. This rifle is a diamond!
@@peteregger7928 It’s All In the Builder And Quality Parts 😊 If You Do The 601 Build Next I Bet It Will Do Just as Well 😀😊
Thanks again Chris! I think a 601 just got put on the list!@@chrischiampo7647
Nice when it all goes as planned on the money. I'd like to put my order in for a clone of your clone. What is your turn around time on that? Lol. The new A4 Colt sells for a grand round here. Were you able to build your clone near that price?
Also, thanks for the 855 comparison. When I started my carry handle sight journey all the reading about the bdc was around the 855. Would like to see you stretch out to 100 for some 5-10 shot groups on a calm day. Sorry if I'm getting long winded. But, wanted to ask how you sight picture? Not sure of the right way, I'm trying just to barely have the horizontal part of front base in picture. Thanks again.
Front sight post and ears centered in the peep. I place the top of the post right under where I'm trying to hit so I don't obstruct my intended point of aim. From there I see where it hits and make adjustments to the front sight post to get it as close as I can. Some people prefer to just cover what they are trying to hit but for me that method is less precise. With the clone build using the 1:8 Criterion I didn't see any POA/POI change between the M193 and M855. I thought that was surprising as there was a velocity difference on the box besides the bullet weight. I'll take it though! The Colt with the 1:7 did show a drop of about 1/2" with the M855 which is what I would have expected with both rifles. I plan to stretch things out a bit with the Colt in the near future. I measured everything on the front end and it's in spec so it just shoots low for some other reason. I have ordered a couple of extra A2 sight posts and plan to shorten one about .060" which will be .200" - .210" post height. Depending on who you believe .260" - .270" is A2 STD height. This should get me about 4 clicks down from flush and the bullseye at 25 meters. Post travel is .007" per click on a STD A2. The barrel alone on the clone was $268.00. Having the front sight base installed by Trajectory Arms after shipping both ways was $130.00. Parts not included. No way I stayed under a grand.
@@peteregger7928 .. Thanks Pete. On the front sight picture, do you see any of the top of base where the pin adjusts?
The bottom shelf of the FSB where it meets the bottom of the ears is just lined up with the bottom of the small aperture peep so you just can't quite see it. This places the top of the sight post right in the middle of the small aperture opening for me. If I'm using the large aperture I try to get the top of the front sight post right in the middle of the aperture and you will see the entire top portion of the sight base. I generally use the small aperture only especially when target shooting knowing it will hit lower close up. The large aperture is a disaster for precision work and I personally consider it "minute of man" for really close up shots. Being marked for 0-200 and beyond 50 yards for any real precision is very optimistic I think. Very difficult to consistently keep things centered with the large aperture. Others that really know what they are doing may have a different technique but this is what works for me. @@Allenmar73
@@peteregger7928 .. Thanks, I've been doing that as you described. I don't use 6 o'clock hold though. Thanks man.