This Mazda Miata is a Loud, Unpredictable RX-7 Impersonator | NA meets FC
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
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Welcome back! This is Andrew's 13B-Powered Mazda Miata. Some argue the NA Miata is a more enjoyable and soul-filled driving experience when its heart is torn out and replaced with a rotary engine from it's older brother, the FC RX-7. Do you agree?!
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What I love about this build is how this MX5 basically got turned into an FC without hindering the original spirit of the Miata being a fun, direct, and communicative drivers’ car. Such an awesome build
FCs suspension design is very different, it arguably kinda sucks out of the box.
@@thepcmrtim bro said "he turned it into an FC without hindering the original spirit of the miata". he's talking about the miata, not the fc. think we all know the fc suspension is cheeks lmao
@@NFSReventon95 my b read that wrong hahaha
FC is definitely the wrong choice. the FC is a much heavier car. The FB is a better comparison even tho the suspension is eh.
Yeah cool idea, small lightweight engine in small lightweight car 🚗 👌🏻
Power is definitely over rated for legal street use. This is a smart build
Love my 400 wheel Evo and my 200 wheel rx8 the same amount
Wait till you learn about French fiscal hp.
@@Damanien Me: laughing with my italian fiscal hp
I agree, you'd still have to follow the speed limit no matter how much horsepower the car has.
@@emmanuelbernabe8699 fair but i would b pushing it every now and then on the highway
10/10 build for me! Theres something about a small NA motor to me, the "less is more" theory! The ONLY thing he needs to complete the build are 2 holes in the hood to get in some FRESH air, that rotary engine bay runs HOT. And have 2 "snorkels" built in to the under side of the hood that have a rubber seal around the top of the carbs. He wont gain much hp, but you will RETAIN as much hp as you have longer by the cooler air. On a hot day that carb setup can lose 10-20hp from hot air intake temps.
Mx5's have actually been proven to have hotter engine bay/intake temps by having holes in the hood haha, same thing happens when people remove the factory plastic undertray also. Obviously not a factory engine, but in theory the science should stay true
@@Beansswtf Not to be that guy but... source? It could depend on where the cutouts are made since they may affect airflow, but the engine bay isn't going to spontaneously get any warmer when you vent it more lol.
@@ralkia Guy Bean is right, it all has to do with airflow and creating a vacuum so hot air gets sucked out of the engine bay. Just cutting holes could lead to a hotter engine bay.
You do realize there's a 13b RE in this mx5 right?@@Ramsaaaa
Wow, this dude has had an amazing roster of car ownership! Very unique build
1000% Love when people like Andrew land on a car like this that so clearly brings him a lot of joy. It's all about variety 😎
That 13b suits the miata so well. Its light weight, high revving and powerfull it doesnt get any more fun than that.
I just subscribed to your channel. Thank you for providing a great coverage of the Mazda Miata MX5 13B! Seeing that smile and grin on you driving showed how much fun you had! Once again, thank you and I'll be looking forward to your next video's! 👍
this exact project has been in my mind for so longgg, great to see someone else sees the potential of a fun low torque, high revving engine in a small light car similar to the rx7
That looks like an incredibly fun car
I didn't think I'd ever want to build a miata. Then this comes into my feed.
Awesome!!!
This is AJ's old car.I have not seen this car in over ten years.Nice to know it is now in good hands,and very tastefully done.Btw I made the radiator cooling plate for the car,for AJ.
That’s awesome. Do you make under trays too?
@@andrewsmithsmusic I can,but the cost of aluminum has skyrocketed,and it takes alot of time to do them.I made a few in the past,but it was too time consuming,just more of a labour of love than anything.if you are looking for a custom undertray,contact Chikara motorsports.They are located in Richmond,and the owner is a really good fabricator,and can easily make you one.
Dude thats crazy. I was watching this thinking hmm this reminds me of a car id see around chilliwack growing up.
@@driftsnlifts it is that same car!
Gauge cluster looks awesome!
Nice build - I love the simplicity of the engine bay compared to my turbo build. Big HP can be overrated, especially if you don't have a track nearby to go balls to the wall. The Miata platform is perfect for a simple build like this - like an old-school cafe racer on 4 wheels!
I fully get that, I finished a 500ish HP FC about a year ago. First gear doesnt last long enough to enjoy it and second will get me a ticket. Third, well i cant use third anywhere on the streets to its fullest.
Even a NA 13B will make double the power of the original 1.6 with a decent port and tune.
Good job, man! This is really cool! I'm more of a muscle car guy, and am building a 1970 Dodge Charger with a Hellcat Redeye and a Tremec. But I've been thinking about building a Miata for a daily driver and thought "How cool would it be to put a rotary in a Miata" and you've done it. Freaking awesome car!
Now that’s the heart 💜 that car deserves . Love it .
I wish these were common like k, b series, and ls swaps but rotary’s are so expensive lol
pretty sure it has more power, even more now considering power to weight, If they weighed the same then noone would have bought an fc. Amazing video.
Ya that's what I was thinking ... At least 200 hp?
The guy is tapped 😅 it will definitely have more power than an n/a mx5
2:30 "you have less power here than a stock NA 1.6" that is factually not true. I used to own a 1991 FC convertible, which was NA. That car made around 160hp when it was new, whilst the NA Miata only made around 110-130hp.
Yeah i’m trying to see where he got that info.
Yeah it's been awhile since I've driven a stock NA. My power assessment was strictly butt dyno talking haha. It should make slightly more power, yes. What I should've said was that it **felt** like it had less power than a factory Miata. Dumb mistake! Both very underpowered, but I'd take the rotary over the 1.6 or 1.8 any day.
Yeah with downdrafts and a good exhaust that car makes 200 at the wheel. This channel is cringe
Butt dyno is real! I appreciate the honesty. Turbo2 engine would be the most streetable swap and actually double the Miata power.
What has he done to the engine? I see it has a Weber 48 IDA. This tends to hint at at least a street port. That will give you at least 180HP compared to the stock Miata 116HP. It definitely isn't bridge ported though. That would put it more in the 250-275 HP bracket. I nearly put a 300 HP peripheral port 13B into my na Miata years ago. Having a daughter on the way put an end to those plans though. Now that the kids are grown, I'm currently putting a race ported 12A into a highly modified Triumph Spitfire. Should be loads of fun
Those power figures seem insane, is that really true? With the differences being strictly porting? I had a mate with a bride port renesis and he barely put down 150hp at the wheels, I know they're a bit gimped compared to a regular 13b but surely not 100hp different with the same ports.
@@Mantenner the power figures I gave are at the crank. The figure you gave for your buddies renesis seems very low. A stock Rx8 made more than that. He may have had some issues with that motor.
With each port, the power band changes too. You must rev it higher to get the power. My peripheral port 13b idled at 2500 rpm. And that was a rough idle. It smoothed out at 4000 rpm. But at 7000 rpm, it was like you got shot out of a canon. And it just got better up to 10, 000.
A bridge port likes it up there too. Perhaps they didn't take it high enough on the dyno. He would need to take it to at least 9000rpm to see peak horse power.
@@Mantenner A good running renesis should put 185+ hp at the wheels. This FC 13b with just intake/header/exhaust is probably around 160-170hp at 7,000 RPM with the ports holding it back from making higher RPM power. And yes, an N/A 13b can make 300 crank hp (250+ to the wheels) with the right porting and supporting mods.
Yeah it's been awhile since I've driven a stock NA. My power assessment was strictly butt dyno talking haha, my mistake. I doubt it makes anything close to 180HP. I was driving an ND MX-5 again last week and it was MUCH quicker than this NA. Like a lot.
This is the perfect swap for a Eunos, lightweight and revvy. People that think you need 400bhp to have fun really don't understand the pleasures of an MX-5.
Slamming it through the gears is just fun, you don't need to be going super quick to have fun. The Eunos is probably the slowest car I've ever owned, but I loved every minute of it.
Rotary is perfect choice for a miata. Great work done here. Personally it is a touch too low for me and the stretched bubble tires are a no for me. But he love his car so it was built right for him.
Awesome build! The 1.5l ND is as close as you can get to this build in a modern MX5. Big revs and shifting are key to an awesome time with a street car. I have some videos of mine on my channel.
Very well done guys... wifey and I built the same set up like 8 years ago and she is still kicking!!! The best over all car for everything!!!! We even ha e the same short shifter as you guys !!! Pretty awesome!
been thinking why no one did this.
and here's one popped in my recommendation
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One of my dream cars has always been a NB Miata wit a turbo 13b-rew in it so this is like gorgeous
Mazda should have sold the MX-5 with the option of a rotary, and the RX-7 with an optional forced induction version of their K-series V6
I've been saying that for a while! They should offer the new Miata with the option for rotary!
Yes and yes. RX-5 and MX-7/8/9. All they really needed to do was get rid of the junk distributors and go coil on plug for the KL. My KLZE is currently down, suspecting the distributor... once again. Still a fantastic engine for small light cars.
Yeah it's a shame they never offered the K series V6 in a RWD platform.
MX-3, Lantis /323F and MX-6 were still nice cars tough.. Only they were Fwd.. Mazda made beautiful Coupes in the 90s from the MX-3 up to the FD RX7..The 323F was never offered in North America. It was a timeless 5 door coupe design in the 90s. The JDM Type R versions are like hens teeth..
@@pgtmr2713 the mx cars are all shit lmfao
Great video! I'm pretty sure that I saw this car at an autocross, and other than being a bit overdriven it was quite impressive, I didn't even realize that it was rotary powered until my friend pointed it out. It looks like a blast to drive and that's all that matters as you can have big HP numbers but totally ruin a cars driveability.
It was nice to see Chilliwack represented, as you were filming right in my neighbourhood where I go running, and I also use that same route to test out my project cars on! If I can get my act together( I blew the axle out of it last weekend) maybe you'd like to test out my 1972 Porsche 914 it's got a 300+HP 1.8t big turbo (for its time that I started putting it together early 2000's) Boxster transmission and is mostly fiberglass so it only weighs 2080 pounds with half a tank of gas. I need to put a new clutch in it as it started to slip and won't hold past 5000 rpm now, and now they sent me the wrong size axle as I'm having to upgrade to Porsche 930 CV's. Should be a couple videos of it on my youtube page, if you're interested click my icon.
Yes that was me! What a great event. Some runs you just gotta slide around and put a show on. At the end of the day no one remembers the lap times.
that gauge cluster is awesome
This one reminds me of the blue del sol 😍 you made a video on. Super executive Mark ❣️ much love from Seattle Washington salute
just needs some big cams to get that brap brap idle
jokes aside, finally an exciting MX5! Looks like great fun
haha "cams"
Cool owner, cool car, great video!
Thanks! Was a lot of fun
Man basically made a miata even more responsive I always though miatas should have a rotary option
Good to see AJs car in good hands.
I love how rotary’s are so compact, they fr look like extensions to your trans🤣
I owned a RX7 and I always thought why did they not put this in a Miata it is a perfect match. If all you have driven is piston cars, The rotary takes a while to make sense. They are far happier at 8k then 2k and weigh half as much as a 2 liter. I wish I never let my RX7 go.
I said the next Gen Miata should be a rotary since the RX car isn’t around the ND Miata is begging for a rotary
This is cool and would like to hear more time spent just listening to the exhaust
I’ve always wanted to if there was rotary swapped Miata. Here’s the answer to my question
there's been rotary miatas before this... you just didn't see them
@@comdrive3865 I figured
Theres a few out there. Mazda even made a one-off rotary Miata that ran on hydrogen
There's been a few. You just haven't looked hard enough. Lol.
Less power than a factory 1.6? ... Sorry but every FC engine has more power than the 1.6
Also another correction ... Your weight references are off as well ... FC is around 400 lbs heavier than a Miata
That's what I was saying. NA FC rotary engines make substantial power above 1.6L Miatas. Totally incorrect information here.
Yea this is a quite big mistake he made lol… For a channel with quite a few views I’d re do the video if I fucked up this bad !!! Yo Daniel ? Are you reading these comments mate ?
@@alextapovski9305 He better be reading them & delete this shit show of a video lol
I agree 👍💯 na fc has more power than a 1.6 and maybe even 1.8 Miata
But what if it's a stock port 12a or stock port s4 na fc without the secondary ports... Idk still probably has more power than 1.6 Miata
The perfect Miata does not exi...........
amazing build
I’ve always wanted to do this to my mx5 very interesting to see and very well done, beautiful car!
Love this build
Surely a stock 13b makes more power than the 1.6l 4 cyl from the na mx5? A stock carby fed 13b makes about 130hp and a stock 1.6 na motor only makes about 113hp. This 13b has a weber and headers etc so its got to be making about 150hp
Intake/header/exhaust on a bone stock FC 13b is gonna put down 160-170 hp to the wheels. The 1.6L is around 100hp to the wheels. This is a massive power boost if done right and it doesn't add much weight either.
@@chrishuyler3580 it reduces weight and removes weight from infront/above the front axle line.
Really nice build. Still not a fan of the stretched tires though.
Ive always wanted to do this. I still plan on it. Mazda totally missed the opportunity to do this themselves.
I think I remember this car from club roadster back in the day
If i remember correctly Mazda uk built a few of these with a 13b from factory.
Glad to see Aj's car is still around. Glad it looks basically the same.
It looks too good to change. Also I still see AJ. He has viewing rights to the car.
Hey Jordan! Do you still have your NA? I still have mine!!!!!
Dreeeeeam! 😍 love Miatas, love Rotaries, this is such a good combination
wait why does it make less power than the 1.6 ? i thought the NA 13b made about 140hp and the 1.6 about 120hp?
I can only imagine with only a 40 liters tank, the car properly gets about 250km range 😅
Mine does that without the rotary hahaa
If you're worried about fuel economy in any engine build then you need to find a new hobby....you're in it for the WRONG reasons
our country side is beautiful isn't it!
This is what i was looking for.
Where was this filmed it's beautiful
My boy Mike built his p ported 13b miata about 6 yrs ago in Canada
I can imagine the idle
Love it!
Dream build❤️
this thing is clean!
Dope vid as always! What bridge is that in background?
Agassiz bridge.
Just do a an extend Port and a nice lightweight flywheel and this would make that hum a lot better, a large carb with standard porting is nice for show but it isn’t going to do a lot.
Maybe you should have 2 mics, one for the cabin and one for you with an aggressive sock.
We used to place one on the exhaust and one on me, however with the current setup I've already blown out one of my mics attempting this haha. So looking for another mic or different setup. Agreed though it needs improving! This particular video I had set the in-camera audio levels off quite a bit.
The altessa is badass always wondered why they didn't get more popular??? I wonder why that engine the 4S isn't in the gr86??!
this isnt an MX-5...
This is an "RX-5"
I like that!
@@andrewsmithsmusic would be better if the rx5 didn't exist in the lineup
I don't think it's possible to get a rotary with an aftermarket carb to be as weak and gutless as the 1.6 that makes exactly 99.98WHP, so no idea where that statement is coming from. I can see maybe 120-135whp with this setup seeing as it's an S4 NA with a weber on it, but not sub-99.98WHP (If anything it's making that for torque at the wheels). If it really was that weak the engine would be barely running and likely dying every time you stopped.
A RX8 swap would be Idle with REAL suspension
Not fuck boy stance
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick! Love this shoulda been the turbo 13b but still love this.
A built 13b can make up to 200hp Naturally Aspirated.
Mazda MX-5 + rotary engine = The unofficial RX-7 convertible.
fire build, fire video, car on fire
Cool car for sure, and seems like a decent human being. At this point I'm going to be the only one building a bp vvt. Haha
My dream build! Wish I could find someone who can help me do that in Europe since I am not a mechanic myself really
How was he able to do the Radiator piping and such? That's the one thing I can't wrap my head around besides the electrics
There is a pipe along the bottom being it to the proper side. Everything else was mix and match from a few different pipe to make it work. Same as the heater core hoses.
Everyone knows LS swap it, but the handling is compromised because of the weight balance is thrown way off. This is the exact opposite, perfect.
What is the weight balance?
At 9:51 he speaks the whole truth!
The stretched wheels and bad chamber angles seem like dog crap handling.
Cool build. What make wheel arch extensions are they? The fit is the best I've seen.
looks like the ones form CarbonMiata
Jubiride.
sucks we cant get the "miata" floor mats & we gotta sub them for the "roadster" floor mats
They are still around,in decent shape too.You just gotta pay the right price for them.
Nice idea to use a rotary. But I don’t get why to use a wheel /suspension setup, that only looks nice. Obviously it’s to stiff to ride uneven roads.
15x8 with 225 is IMHO the maximum you should go for.
What seats are in the car? They seem to fit perfectly in the miata. I'm still looking for some seats to put in my miata, and these look great.
For real
Lotus Elise seats.
MAHZ DAH
I wonder how the weight distribution ended up being
How have I not seen this in Vancouver?
This car was originally built in the fraser Valley,and still reside there.However,every once in a while the previous owner would come down to Van,and he would rip it up downtown with that little fire breather,popping and banging away!
If this car was locally in Vancouver,how long do you think it would last,with the current V.I bullshit currently going on.
This guy is a fukn g and suites no hair so well! 👌
Love it
Rx7 is basically just a rotary Miata and a Miata is just a 4 cylinder Rx7
A 13b that has less power than the stock 1.6? Something aint right then.
Yeah it's been awhile since I've driven a stock NA. That was strictly butt dyno talking haha
Doing this to my firebird one day
I would prefer a tachometer in the middle of the gauge cluster instead of the speedometer. Otherwise, nice engine swap
No enthusiast would dis this car.
Looks like the tyres are the wrong size for the rims
Imagine putting it the body kit from Tokio drift 😅
cool car.
Perfection
more like ND Miata (Negligent Discharge)
it has a face 😍
The FD is a Miata
It’s build on a Miata chassis per say
Can we have a black 2ZZ-GE jet tag please :D
Oooohh Not a bad call! I'll see what we can do.
@@RoadsUntraveled Thanks muchly, appreciate it! :D
How much horsepower does it generate? How many-pound feet of torque? What's its 0-to-60 time?
It's never been dyno'd!
the mx5 is a baby rx7 confirmed
I wonder how he got it to do the rotary fart after turning it off.
Turn off the ignition, but gas keeps going in if the engine turns, then it all collects in the exhaust.
didnt the old Mx5 had 115 hp engine ? the 13b has 200 ?
depends on the 13b, this 13b is from a NA FC, so more so around 140-150