Tightening the block is one of those crucial things that's often overlooked. I once stripped out the bolt threading on a cheaper licensed floyd's block because I hadn't tightened it in a while. I heard a loud SNAP after doing a divebomb, and the block fell right off lol
Damn thats wild! And would scare me hearing that from nowhere lmao! I will def check out tightening the block, only reason I can think why I have a bit of tuning issue
Man I looked your video, and I fixed all my problems!!! ❤ I just restored a guitar and put on a new Floyd rose special. And after your tips now It dives bomb like crazy 😮 thanks!
Hey man, I was having so much tuning issues with my Ibanez with a Edge Pro II, and I really didnt want to swap the tremolo in it as I don't really have the money to buy a FRO or a OEP style bridge. I was doing everything you said to do and I got worried that something would've been wrong with my trem, as I didnt realy any sounds or see anything moving. So when I got to the part where you said to make sure every bolt is locked tight then i found my issue. Turns out after i did repairs on my guitar i didnt lock down the bolts that held the locking nut to the neck tight enough. After that i made sure all the bolts were locked down, and when i tuned the guitar and went ham on the trem, my guitar stayed in tune this time! Thank you so much for the help by making this video, not only you're my savior, you're also my wallet's savior too!
That Charvel is a beauty. I got a made in Japan Jackson DXMG. Im going to try out some of your tips I got a Jackson licensed Floyd, hopefully I dont need to buy a new Special.
another thing is to make sure both side of the springs are evenly balanced… I was having a problem with my G coming back sharp and I had to tweak one side of the claw just slightly (loosen it) and then it stopped the issue. Sometimes it takes a lot of little tweaks
Question: my Floyd floats. I can get it in tune but once I dive bomb, it’s goes flat when it returns to normal position. If I pull up on the bar it stays sharp when it returns to normal position. Any thoughts on how to fix this?
Exactly the same..... And it sucks cuz this is my first guitar, I knew what I'm getting into but thought I could manage. It's a Harley Benton Fusion III with Floyd Rose 1000. Have you found a solution?
@@robpags Nice. Do you stretch the strings after locking the nuts? So it would be something like, lock nuts, stretch for a while, unlock nuts and retune a bit, restretch etc etc.. How many springs do you use now and in which shape? Mine came with 3 and it's used in an agular shape, I tried using parallel lines but it didn't make a diff.
My problem is that I can do dive bombs perfectly fine without tuning issues but as soon as I do a bend that string goes way out of tune, and the only way to bring it back is by doing another dive bomb. (My Floyd rose isn’t floating, sits flush against the body Evh style)
Dude, go check a video from Darrell Braun. This problem is quite common on any kinds of floating trems. Not exclusive to FR, even Wilkinson, gotoh, edge, vega, kahler, etc also suffer the same issue. Particularly on G string. It goes slightly out of tune after bends. But back in tune after a slight tap on the trem. Sorry, RUclips prevent any kind of link to a video.
@@fajaradi1223 yea I’ve seen that video, all of my guitars with Floyd’s have that problem and it annoys me so much. so I just don’t use them anymore, I play only hard tail guitars now lol
I've failed to get it.I"ve replaced my old locking nut with quite an expensive OFR,restringed using locking method, stretched strings super aggressively, played not even 10mins and this guitar keeps going out of tune.Locking nut is supposed to lock all your strings so they cant slide.Where can they be sliding? I've not even touched the whammy bar.Please can you explain why?thanks very much.
you can try unscrewing the locking nut screws and stretch the strings and play the guitar for like two days and then try locking it, your strings might not be stabilized.
Why Floy Rose go out of tune. The springs!!! If you have new springs they could be not broken in and locking at different tentions. My guitar came with 2 brand new springs and bridge was locking at two tention positions. I added one extra thick spring that was used many years on other guitar and the problem was immediatly solved.
Honestly at this point they start coming to me haha.. I got this guitar from a local guy who liked my videos and had this one laying around for over 10 years waiting to be put together, so he realized I should be the one to complete the project as he is not much of a player anymore
You can just wrap the post holders with paper instead of using apoxy. It’s a fix that works very well and you won’t have any issues with removing it later like you will with apoxy.
@@Metalhead980 It works as a shim to fill the gap between the post and the wood/guitar body. Well it seems unintuitive, since we're assuming paper is not a hard solid material.
Great video, thank you man and greetings from Germany! Got a question: I own two Kramers and as you might know they don't have a recessed floyd rose. I tightened the springs in the back to make the trem touch the body. It's angled a little bit but in my theory it doesn't have any possibility to move back and always comes back to it's same position. I think every EVHs are set up like this, don't they? I want to know is this correctly? Because I still have some tuning issues, after a dive bomb my guitars to just a little little bit flat for a few cents and you won't hear it but I'm still wondering why? I mean in theory I should have a much more stable trem because it's not floating. Maybe you can help and thanks :)
Thanks man glad you liked it! Yes it sounds like it's set up like an EVH guitar. Now you need to make sure the bridge is still straight, it cannot be angled AT ALL! I personally don't have any guitar that the bridge is flat with the body, all of them are floating even if they are not recessed. So make sure the tremolo is dead flat with the body and also make sure to stretch the strings properly. Also make sure the nut is tight to the neck and it is locked properly. Hope it helps good luck!
That era of charvel was the best era the guitars were out of this world I used jb weld wood the studs never moved ever replaced the floyd R4 nut changed springs replaced the Schaller floyd it has nut inserts under it for the string saddles never moved after that new pickups Seymour jb I have a whole bunch of them ...😮
Yeah those dont come with a setup usually the action is high. You need to set the action how you like it and then tune it with spring tension vs string tension
בוודאי, תמיד צריך לגרז את הסכינים. יש גריז מיוחד לזה. אם הסכינים או העמודים התומכים (פול פיסז) שעליהם הסכין יושבת שחוקים, לא יעזור לך שום גירוז וצריך להחליף או את אחד מהם או את שניהם. אבל גירוז יכול לעכב את השחיקה הזו.
My issue on my Jackson (which is a Soloist in black and gold crackle mega similar to that one) is pushing and pulling the floyd will basically change the tuning half to a full tone. It's so annoying
I built a guitar recently with a floyd on it and it's all great I just can't get it in tune. Like when I I tune the higher strings the lower string are alr out by a half step. What would you suggest
You built the guitar yourself or built it from parts? Try to see if the Floyd is sitting parallel to the body and also parallel to the neck and pickups. Also try to check that the nut is screwed properly to the neck and its not moving. If its a new original Floyd the only reason I see it failing is setting it up badly or installing it badly.. Hope it helps!
@@OferHolan well i got this jackson dx10d which is second hand and the floyd rose bridge dont stay in tune at all i have done such things about it but nothing really help so i thought of replacing the studs with non-wiggly ones . do they all fit in the holes on guitar, what i mean by that is are the both have the same size do i have to drill the body?
You will have to measure it yourself, I can't promise it will fit, but I do assume that in most modern guitars the studs are in the same size!@@Metalhead980
Learn to set them up properly before ever taking them apart, especially if you've never done it before. These guitars really do require a lot of patience.
Tightening the block is one of those crucial things that's often overlooked. I once stripped out the bolt threading on a cheaper licensed floyd's block because I hadn't tightened it in a while. I heard a loud SNAP after doing a divebomb, and the block fell right off lol
Oh man that must have been scary haha!
Lol.. I have to have a Floyd on my guitars ! I it's a necessity for me I have tried and tried others.. but man they can be pain in tha ass !! Lol 🤘
Damn thats wild! And would scare me hearing that from nowhere lmao! I will def check out tightening the block, only reason I can think why I have a bit of tuning issue
Man I looked your video, and I fixed all my problems!!! ❤ I just restored a guitar and put on a new Floyd rose special. And after your tips now It dives bomb like crazy 😮 thanks!
Awesome happy to help brother!
Amazing description of the possible issues with the Floyd rose!!! Thank you!!
My pleasure!
Hey man, I was having so much tuning issues with my Ibanez with a Edge Pro II, and I really didnt want to swap the tremolo in it as I don't really have the money to buy a FRO or a OEP style bridge. I was doing everything you said to do and I got worried that something would've been wrong with my trem, as I didnt realy any sounds or see anything moving. So when I got to the part where you said to make sure every bolt is locked tight then i found my issue. Turns out after i did repairs on my guitar i didnt lock down the bolts that held the locking nut to the neck tight enough. After that i made sure all the bolts were locked down, and when i tuned the guitar and went ham on the trem, my guitar stayed in tune this time! Thank you so much for the help by making this video, not only you're my savior, you're also my wallet's savior too!
The candle trick is brilliant 👍🏻
Thank you!
That Charvel is a beauty. I got a made in Japan Jackson DXMG. Im going to try out some of your tips
I got a Jackson licensed Floyd, hopefully I dont need to buy a new Special.
another thing is to make sure both side of the springs are evenly balanced… I was having a problem with my G coming back sharp and I had to tweak one side of the claw just slightly (loosen it) and then it stopped the issue. Sometimes it takes a lot of little tweaks
Nice tip thanks!
can you elaborate on how you fixed it please
Good stuff brother
@@MattDee-mi4zk Thanks!
im pressing the bar down and up it goes sharp and flat is this caused by studs and how can i fix that
GREAT insight here🤘
Question: my Floyd floats. I can get it in tune but once I dive bomb, it’s goes flat when it returns to normal position. If I pull up on the bar it stays sharp when it returns to normal position. Any thoughts on how to fix this?
Exactly the same..... And it sucks cuz this is my first guitar, I knew what I'm getting into but thought I could manage. It's a Harley Benton Fusion III with Floyd Rose 1000. Have you found a solution?
@@Ben-ld1qiI actually found that stretching my strings more helped out. I also replaced the spring months ago w/ FU Tone Springs for better control.
@@robpags Nice. Do you stretch the strings after locking the nuts? So it would be something like, lock nuts, stretch for a while, unlock nuts and retune a bit, restretch etc etc..
How many springs do you use now and in which shape? Mine came with 3 and it's used in an agular shape, I tried using parallel lines but it didn't make a diff.
My problem is that I can do dive bombs perfectly fine without tuning issues but as soon as I do a bend that string goes way out of tune, and the only way to bring it back is by doing another dive bomb. (My Floyd rose isn’t floating, sits flush against the body Evh style)
Dude, go check a video from Darrell Braun. This problem is quite common on any kinds of floating trems. Not exclusive to FR, even Wilkinson, gotoh, edge, vega, kahler, etc also suffer the same issue. Particularly on G string. It goes slightly out of tune after bends. But back in tune after a slight tap on the trem.
Sorry, RUclips prevent any kind of link to a video.
@@fajaradi1223 yea I’ve seen that video, all of my guitars with Floyd’s have that problem and it annoys me so much. so I just don’t use them anymore, I play only hard tail guitars now lol
Great info and tips. Thanks. What model Charvel is that?
Thanks!
That's a 475 deluxe from 1991.
I've failed to get it.I"ve replaced my old locking nut with quite an expensive OFR,restringed using locking method, stretched strings super aggressively, played not even 10mins and this guitar keeps going out of tune.Locking nut is supposed to lock all your strings so they cant slide.Where can they be sliding? I've not even touched the whammy bar.Please can you explain why?thanks very much.
you can try unscrewing the locking nut screws and stretch the strings and play the guitar for like two days and then try locking it, your strings might not be stabilized.
Dude, great video, very interesting lesson !
Thanks brother!
congrats man!, that guitar is really beautifull
Thank you, I dig it as well!
Why Floy Rose go out of tune. The springs!!! If you have new springs they could be not broken in and locking at different tentions. My guitar came with 2 brand new springs and bridge was locking at two tention positions. I added one extra thick spring that was used many years on other guitar and the problem was immediatly solved.
Great input!
Ofer, dude.. How do you come across all these early model guitars? 🤔
Honestly at this point they start coming to me haha..
I got this guitar from a local guy who liked my videos and had this one laying around for over 10 years waiting to be put together, so he realized I should be the one to complete the project as he is not much of a player anymore
@@OferHolan well that was awesome..
You can just wrap the post holders with paper instead of using apoxy. It’s a fix that works very well and you won’t have any issues with removing it later like you will with apoxy.
how does that work?
@@Metalhead980
It works as a shim to fill the gap between the post and the wood/guitar body. Well it seems unintuitive, since we're assuming paper is not a hard solid material.
Have you had a problem with popping when switching with the EVH foot controller?
No, not that I'm aware of.
Great video, thank you man and greetings from Germany! Got a question: I own two Kramers and as you might know they don't have a recessed floyd rose. I tightened the springs in the back to make the trem touch the body. It's angled a little bit but in my theory it doesn't have any possibility to move back and always comes back to it's same position. I think every EVHs are set up like this, don't they? I want to know is this correctly? Because I still have some tuning issues, after a dive bomb my guitars to just a little little bit flat for a few cents and you won't hear it but I'm still wondering why? I mean in theory I should have a much more stable trem because it's not floating. Maybe you can help and thanks :)
Thanks man glad you liked it!
Yes it sounds like it's set up like an EVH guitar.
Now you need to make sure the bridge is still straight, it cannot be angled AT ALL!
I personally don't have any guitar that the bridge is flat with the body, all of them are floating even if they are not recessed.
So make sure the tremolo is dead flat with the body and also make sure to stretch the strings properly.
Also make sure the nut is tight to the neck and it is locked properly.
Hope it helps good luck!
That era of charvel was the best era the guitars were out of this world I used jb weld wood the studs never moved ever replaced the floyd R4 nut changed springs replaced the Schaller floyd it has nut inserts under it for the string saddles never moved after that new pickups Seymour jb I have a whole bunch of them ...😮
I bought a Kramer brand new and it has this issue and it also buzzes I'm bout done with it tbh
Yeah those dont come with a setup usually the action is high. You need to set the action how you like it and then tune it with spring tension vs string tension
עוד שאלה שעלתה לי לראש.
העניין הזה של שימון של הknife edges, זה יכול לעזור בלמנוע בלאי שלהם כמו למשל בגשר קקה כמו פלויד ספשל?
בוודאי, תמיד צריך לגרז את הסכינים. יש גריז מיוחד לזה. אם הסכינים או העמודים התומכים (פול פיסז) שעליהם הסכין יושבת שחוקים, לא יעזור לך שום גירוז וצריך להחליף או את אחד מהם או את שניהם. אבל גירוז יכול לעכב את השחיקה הזו.
@@NuclearSoda יש המלצה לגריז שאפשר לקנות בארץ? גיטרה ראשונה שלי ועדיין חסר ניסיון.
My issue on my Jackson (which is a Soloist in black and gold crackle mega similar to that one) is pushing and pulling the floyd will basically change the tuning half to a full tone. It's so annoying
It’s making a noise when i pull up kinda sounds like the string is hitting a fret or something
Your action is probably too low, or the nut is too low
@@OferHolan you were right. The bridge wasn’t floating good thank you 🙏🏼
@@nathanmorn-dd7mv Sure happy to help!
I built a guitar recently with a floyd on it and it's all great I just can't get it in tune. Like when I I tune the higher strings the lower string are alr out by a half step. What would you suggest
You built the guitar yourself or built it from parts?
Try to see if the Floyd is sitting parallel to the body and also parallel to the neck and pickups.
Also try to check that the nut is screwed properly to the neck and its not moving.
If its a new original Floyd the only reason I see it failing is setting it up badly or installing it badly..
Hope it helps!
String gauge is important with FR. Must be perfectly balanced or it will do that
hello i have a couple questions about stud change sir.
Sure feel free to ask!
@@OferHolan well i got this jackson dx10d which is second hand and the floyd rose bridge dont stay in tune at all i have done such things about it but nothing really help so i thought of replacing the studs with non-wiggly ones . do they all fit in the holes on guitar, what i mean by that is are the both have the same size do i have to drill the body?
You will have to measure it yourself, I can't promise it will fit, but I do assume that in most modern guitars the studs are in the same size!@@Metalhead980
Wow I have the same guitar only it’s a Jackson nice
Cool!
Have this exact guitar :) same issues lol
holy shit it's dan avidan
Ha he'd wish! 😉
Wow 475 special platinum crackel.😮
Yeah I need to make a video about that one!
Learn to set them up properly before ever taking them apart, especially if you've never done it before. These guitars really do require a lot of patience.
That fish eye lense makes your neck look bent
Haha totally
never wanted to have such a guitar. only posers use floyd rose
So dimebag darrell was a poser?😮
😂😂 wtf
Dude you remind me of Jason man!
Thats a badass axe man!
Thanks man!