I got ripped off by my Hakwon owner. I got off the plane and had to come straight to work and the first thing he did was take my contract and replace it with a new one that had worse terms for me (50 minute classes instead of 45). A few months into the contract we nearly got into a fist fight. He got in my face and threatened to attack. One day when I had enough I provoked him into an argument to get him to fire me and when he fired me I went upstairs to the class that I was supposed to be teaching. I was ten minutes late, but I walked in and the students were perfectly quiet and behaved with their hands on their desks. I said "Hey kids! Teacher got fired! You don't have class today!" The kids raised their hands in the air and said "Yayyyyyy!!!." He tried to not pay me, but I found a labor lawyer who threatened to sue and I got paid.
omfg! You are more detailed. Our pain is the same! OMG the open classes! Horror days...unnecessary stress...no sleep...not good enough. Unrealistic expectations. Kindergarten Hagwon life in Korea is Hell. Also, nobody should shame anyone for escaping toxic work places that affect you emotionally and physically. Glad your free.
I feel like unless you’ve flown to korea and had to endure teaching within 24 hours of arrival, you truly can’t understand how hard it is. I am so so sorry you had such a horrible experience. And the whole scamming you into a new contract thing.. WTF! They knew exactly what they were doing.
Yeah, I wish I had the courage to question and stand my ground from the first. Oh well, live and learn, yeah?!? lol Did you have to work right away as well??
Midnight ran after 5-6 months. Just so many lies and the stupid rules… 1. Was told I’d only work 9-7 two days a week but ended up doing that five days a week… 2. Was not allowed to socialise with the Korean teachers at all. Inside or out of school 3. Head of school would go missing for weeks at a time.. nobody knew where she’d go 4. Didnt have a bed in my apartment for 1-2 MONTHS 5. Micromanaging without actually training or giving helpful advice 6. Having to let bad kids misbehave because they can’t afford to lose that child’s money And more…
Thank you for sharing. I'm not a teacher but I am a custodian in an elementary school in the US. I've seen so many red flags within the school just as a custodian and it worries me every day. My boss doesn't care, he is actually leaving, the majority of the teachers don't care about their jobs or the students. In fact they push the kids to act bad, which I don't understand. I'm absolutely overworked, underpaid and treated terrible. It's to the point where I don't even want to go back to work. There's only myself and 1 other lady that takes care of this school and we constantly get talked down on and treated horrible. Somehow she has stuck around for 20 years, I've been there 7 months. This video is a breathe of fresh air, I appreciate your honesty and it's giving me the strength I need to get the f**k away from this job. My mental health is more important.
I have been in Korea for about two months, started work after quarantining and they have changed what I was told every step of the way immediately out of quarantine. I love Korea and have so much fun outside of work but they have me working 6 days a week and the burnout is already so bad. I hate that I worked for so long to get here and am considering leaving after just two months. Thanks for sharing your experience. I miss America so much
Wow, 6 days? I cannot imagine. I don't know how they expect you to survive and enjoy your job under those conditions. I get how it's hard when you invest so much time, effort, and money to get there. It can feel impossible to leave. Before I went to Korea, someone told me to stick it out for 3 months, a lot can change and sometimes it can start to get better at the 3-6 month mark. (This was not the case for me lol but it's the case for a lot of people.) No one can tell you what's right for you, I hope you find the clarity you need
This was me too the letter! I came back to the United States during covid and Donald Trump and I was never so happy to be back in my life! That is how bad Korea was. My hagwon sucked. I wanted to beat up the entire staff there. I hated it.
My first school was awful, I hated it so much and cried all the time. I wish I had left. If any teachers are unhappy I would recommend saving enough money to rent an air bnb, hand in your notice (I know the contract mat say 90days but legally you only need to give 7) and switch to a D10 (seeking employment) visa. Whatever the school threatens you with, there will always be another school - a better option. Check the blacklist! Some renowned Hagwons have nicknames for a reason!! And contact the labor board if you are unsure of any legal issues. Thanks for sharing Courtney, your year was rough but you came out stronger ❤️❤️❤️
I was an English teacher in Russia, and it was wonderful. I went through Language Links TEFL course in Moscow in 2011, and they placed me near Moscow. I would never go to South Korea to teach. I'm sure some people think they wouldn't go to Russia, but to each their own. I loved it and I'd do it again today. I have some colleagues still there are after being there 15 years already. You can also make bank in Moscow.
Thank you for sharing your story! I’m sure there are good places to teach in Korea but I have seen more bad than good. Makes me want to steer clear of South Korea and choose another destination.
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this! I am leaving in 3 weeks to teach in Korea and I love videos like this because I really appreciate how honest you are but are telling others not to be discouraged! Searching for jobs has been so tough especially for hagwons! One of my biggest questions during interviews was about covid-19 and how the school plans on taking care of their teachers. The stories I've heard about teachers during covid is so so upsetting! You had a tough 2020 for sure, hope things are changing around! :)
I have just been treated like total trash by my hagwon during covid times. The government shut us down from December 8th-Janaury 18th. My boss even admitted he didn't care about us. We got paid like 30% during the closure, even though we were teaching a few hours a day online and had a few days of teaching all day in person. As of tomorrow, I have no job. Our hagwon shuts down for good from tomorrow. My payday this week was only 800,000 won. I just want to leave Korea now and be done.
@@shannon2748 I'm so sorry that happened to you! It's def been tough with teaching and pay these last few weeks! I hope you find something new or get to go home! :)
I’m a teacher at a hagwon in Suwon and although for the most part I’ve enjoyed my time, I’m not renewing my contract. The apartment they put me in is garbage, they said if I renewed they would put me in a better apartment but I a little bitter I had to be in this dumpster a year anyway. And I don’t really click with the other teachers so I feel very isolated and lonely here. Even though everyone is nice, I keep to myself. They’ve made me uncomfortable. All in all my school wasn’t too bad, we got paid on time (sometimes earlier), I get nice gifts from the parents sometimes (can’t wait to see what I get for Xmas), and some of the kids are sweet but some of the older ones are jerks.
@@nikicarrie4071 my (American) coworkers started off the year by making me uncomfortable. I’m one of those people of you make me uncomfortable when I don’t know you, I won’t warm up to you. So when that happened, I kept my distance from them. I still loved the hell out of Korea though! And may go back or try for Japan.
If i see ONE negative comment imma fight... you went through so much sh*t and came out with your battle scars, stronger and tougher, but still with a heart. Proud of you, I really am.
This is why you must always look out for yourself. I've had bad managers, passive aggressive coworkers who turn on you, wage theft (the works). I've learnt to test employers now. If I get any hint of BS or shady behavior I will end up ghosted them.
You did way better than me. I pulled a runner after 5 months. Atleast you got a cute apartment. I was dropped in a horrible apartment in Seosan Si, and the Hagwon was a living hell. I relate to every single word you said here.
@@CourtneyTheExplorer oh the worst thing? When I got off the plane, speaking barely any Korean, the staffing agency that placed me did not assist me with anything. I was in a foreign country depending on the kindness of strangers. When I got to my apartment I slept in the stairwell because it was 2:00 am and seosan is a small town. Yeah, my first and last time being homeless. Korea the country was beautiful, but not the experience. I never want to go back!
Public School you avoid that issue but obviously the income is a little bit lower starting but it's a much more nicer experience. But obviously you can be anywhere in Korea and by anywhere I mean in a town. But the best thing was when I was at the public school at the height of Corona we were still getting paid even we weren't teaching for like 6 months
Thank you for sharing your experience and I am so sorry something like that happened to you. At the end when you were talking about how your relationship with everyone else at work was it sounded like “trauma bonding”. I hope things are much much better now and that your mom had a full and healthy recovery.
I have my own fair share of terrible things i have been through. I've decided to leave for good and i've been counting the weeks. I really can't wait and I'm pretty sure i won't miss it.
I'm only 5 minutes in. So far it is a similar story I had in 2001. Teachers quitting midnight runs, falsified signatures reduced severance. I got fired at eight months, two months after the fire without cause expired etc. I ended up staying in Korea another 11 years bouncing from job to job. Loved living there just not the employers
My school had open class and it was the WORST. My school literally made us write scripts of what me and the kids would say (mind you these kids are like 7). Plus we had to make a lesson plan of our made up class. I had to rehearse the class several of times with the director and vice director. My open class had great reviews but i shouldn't have to go through that much stress. Me and my coworkers had no idea what their expectations 2were but that's the typical theme in Korea. Their expectations are ridiculously high on the foreign teachers but their appreciation for us isn't the same.
Yeah girl. I worked in a big time hagwon like you and when you talked about open class, i fuckin screamed at my phone like fuck yea, that shit was awful 😭
sorry to hear about your horro story. i heard other foreigners who had a bad time. i ended up teaching in sangju for 7 1/2 years and wish i was still there. never had more than 32 hours a week and usually less, and no saturdays. i had a free 4-bedroom apt. on the 6th floor of my hagwon's building. my boss left me alone so long as i did my job. 80 percent of my students were adults. i never hung out with foreigners since my dance card was full with korean friends. many adventures. thank goodness i missed covid. i've heard how bad it was there from some korean friends. as the saying goes, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
I taught at ECC in Deokso (East of Seoul) from 2001-2004. The first 2 years were great then a bitch from hell bought the school. I ended up escaping Korea just in time before they put me on the street. DON'T TEACH IN KOREA PEOPLE.
If you are teaching in Korea, never consider the country home. I made the mistake of starting to put down roots. Live out of your suitcase and be minimalist as hell, and make sure to always have at least enough money in the bank to fly home and survive long enough to get work again there. There are good people and good experiences to be had here, but hagwon owners are nearly all sociopathic cheats. They may seem nice, but they are the most two-faced people I've ever had the misfortune to meet. They know that you cannot go work at a different school without their permission because of the visa laws, and they will hold that over you to manipulate and control you. Always be ready to just say "Nope" and hop on a plane back home at the drop of a hat. If they try to manipulate you, just leave and leave fast. It will be best for you and for those who stay as their ability to refuse the hagwon owners nonsense as they will for a short while be afraid of the other teachers leaving too. I worked for a horrible hagwon. One of us midnight ran, and none of us renewed our contracts. Talking to the new teachers there, they are apparently treated much better than we were. Everything that can be done to show hagwon owners that they don't have power and have to keep their teachers happy makes things better for everyone else.
oh wow! you had a lunch break without having to be with the kids?! That must be nice! When I was teaching in South Korea, I had to eat with the kids. I understand your pain and I understand those who do midnight runs too. If you have the choice to leave and work somewhere you will be respected and have a better experience, you should take it!!! People who haven't gone through these experiences shouldn't condemn others who had.
My boss ignores me. She doesnt talk to me, she tries by all means to avoid me which is so weird. She just has meetings with other co-workers behind my back. I teach 36 classes a week 200+ students alone. Most of the kids are rude and disrespectful and I receive no support from the Korean teacher's. I'm the only foreign teacher at the school. During school events I get so isolated. I feel so lonely and out of place. I hate working here
I'm sorry you went through such a horrible experience. And, this is coming from someone that has completed over 5 years of contracts. I'm glad you put yourself first, and decided to leave because these hagwons will never put their teachers first. Yes, you are "breaking the contract", but they get to keep whatever salary, and the flight bonus you left behind. Except for the pension you can still claim that. Korean staff can quit whenever they want. They just shame foreigners for quitting because if takes more time to find a new foreign teacher. Especially if a hagwon pays a low salary or they are on a blacklist because of the poor work environment that is causing teachers to quit in the first place.
Girl, you did the right thing by ghosting them; God blessed you, I am just so proud of you! The purpose of employment, it's to leverage responsibilities to other individuals to increase productivity. You go there you perform your duties; you go home and that's it. I don't know why working in schools and corporations these days, companies have turned the workplace into an episode of The Jerry Springer show where everyone's having a nervous breakdown, bosses and coworkers alike are creating disruption and throwing chairs at one another(figuratively and literally). On top of all that, they're doing all these manipulative tactics to keep you trapped there. Well you know what, play stupid games win stupid prizes; treat me like a slave while I treat you like a thot. I'm shocked you even put up with that, for that long. That first day would have been my last day.
I never claim to be perfect teacher. I want to do a lot of things but now my boss whos my supervisor right now just makes it so hard. I honestly feel like crying everyday just dealing with them. No standard what i want was told to me. I am trying to keep it together.
Hope it gets better! I’m Leaving Korea in a month. I would’ve been here a year but I feel so isolated here. And the apartment is terrible. School loosing a lot of kids too.
❤️🙏🏽 you did tge right thing I’m so glad people are talking about this and tge way Korea treats people especially foreigners 🙁 I hope other people will be brave . I hood you guys can all come together and internationally sue them along with other allies . They need to be boycotted until they can treat people with dignity
I’ve been through what you went through twice. The ESL industry is screwed up and you have to be careful. You did the right thing leaving. They were exploiting you.
I always thought teaching overseas would be fantastic, now I don't believe that to be the case. Incidentally, i have heard that a lot of countries won't allow Australians to teach English because they don't like our accent and use of English. Apparently Japan is one country that when advertising for teaching the ads say Australians need not apply. Not sure about S. Korea, but it sounds likely. After watching your video I feel blessed to never try!! Great video, and you remind me of the 80's singer Laura Branigan to look at. 💜
I taught in public and private schools in China, but Covid messed up my plans. Now I apply to Japan and Korean high-schools. Training centres or Hogwans as the case in Korea are okay, you just have to accept low standards. Its best to try to stick to a job even if the circumstances get bad. I worked through an agency for my first 2 years but quit because they weren't paying the salary correctly. I got laid off from my 2nd Chinese training school job due to the new gov policies and I worked in a British ran training school after. Had plans to return to public school teaching again but covid and China's dumb policy messed that up. Back in the UK and despite my experiences it's hard to get accepted here and abroad. Maybe I have too much experience. Who knows, however I still believe in tefl teaching even if it means little back home. Would prefer Japan to Korea but Japan seems tricky to get in to. I get the feeling Korea is like China, with a multitude of opportunities, but also with red flags around every corner. Hogwans do have a bad reputation. Because you are young you have time to put this episode behind you. However the more midnight runners there are the worse treatment of foreigners will get. Catch 22.
I am scheduled to leave for Korea like in February but tbh am having second thoughts. I’m hearing from ALOOOOOOT of different people horror stories of working there. The company im going through is Chungdham. Luckily I haven’t signed a contract yet.
To be honest with you, if you can go to a different country id say do it. Korea is brutal. A lot of shit happens here. I have my own personal stories i haven't shared with people. I've cried so many times and i can legit say i hate it here. But if you can endure all these challenges for the sake of money, then try it. Also you might be lucky and your experience might be a little better.
Bro! I just got email from my recruiter. I go on May 8th. But im now 2nd guessing too breh hahahah’ you down to connect on social media to talk about this? I think im out. I’m also doing chungdahm learning
@@hoodieboy1515 hey, sorry to say but that hagwon is on the blacklist. Just google and u can see it on reddit etc. I’ve never been to Korea tho so might be different
I thought I recognized you. I think I saw you at HQ or other bars a couple times. I'm sorry you had so many troubles in Busan. I agree with you. you can stop anytime. Your boss doesn't own you
You know who never gets blamed with any of these horror stories but should? TEFL courses and University programs for teaching English. They always focus on the "best" teaching techniques and never focus on any common sense shit that could actually help someone survive these miserable crappy jobs. In the majority of teaching experiences I've had around the world, using the teaching techniques taught in TEFL courses will lead to student complaints, parent complaints or some type of intervention from the administration. None of this classroom politicking is ever seriously examined in course work even though teacher after teacher after teacher talks about it when they actually take these jobs.
Your video is very helpful for those of us yet to embark. I am sure we can all learn from this. I appreciate your perspective. I have certainly been able to understand what happened with both your side and the employer's. I am looking forward to a future in a similar hagwon.
With these open classes, I've never understood why they just don't have the slides that they have prepared and can just re-use every year.....I worked in public school and the textbooks were god awful. The speaking sections were just sooooo dry.
I arrived here on the 10th of November and this is exactly what happened to me. I had to work the day I arrived!! i too should’ve seen the red flags hay
@@healingdog364 “Complaining” isn’t inherently weak or bad, it’s okay to share abuse, hardships or illegal practices. I had the privilege of being able to leave the situation and never having to go back. I wanted to share my story for those who might have gone through something similar or thinking about immigrating there. Reviews (both good and bad) can be helpful. It sounds like you like the US which is great. 👍🏻
Yeah im fine with high expectations (even though after working hours without OT are calculated, I make $12 an hour), but like make them fucking clear? idk? Am I crazy orrrrrrrrr
You'd think over the 20 years this has been happening that people would wise up forcing the small minority of Hagwons to stop doing things like switch and bait and sub-standard accommodation etc. If you do work for a Hagwon do your research and have a Plan B. (e.g. Japan/Taiwan teaching job and enough money for plane fare and month's rent for a Goshiwon - 'Korean long stay hotel'). Because you may not get your 'release letter' preventing you from legally working elsewhere in Korea.
I would go a step further...don't choose korea as a teach away destination. You are just gristle for the mill over there. Yeah, everyone says they roll out the red carpet for teachers but that is a lie... They threw me in a crappy apartment and made my life hell from the first day I started. I got job offers from China and Thailand, but I chose Korea. I never want to see that country again.
@@pryncecharming2133 I'm sorry you feel that way. Yes, there are corrupt / bad Hagwon owners who mistreat foreigners and who give the rest of them a bad name. But there ARE decent hagwon owners too, you have to do your research and have your wits about you in Korea and know the score. Plus Korean people, in general, are very accommodating and friendly to foreigners. However, teaching jobs in China are getting better, paying better with a massive rise in living standards and opportunity. So China seems, now, it wasn't before, a better option all round if you get a decent job there. Thailand is Thailand, nothing has changed much and is unlikely to anytime soon, so take your pick.
the way the $$$ conversion hasn't aged well in South Korea at all in the last 3 years since this video was filmed, is unhinged. Now it's $1,600 a month for a starting salary of an esl teacher.
FYI if you do break a contract by doing a midnight run, it’s gonna be really hard to get another job in Korea regardless of the program. Just a warning for anyone who’s thinking about it. With that being said if do what you think is best for you
It’s funny how people love pointing the blame at the people who do the midnight run instead of the horrible employers that make them need to do it in the first place! No one goes through all the work of getting a visa and moving to a foreign country because they *want* to have to do this. They do it because they’re put in a dangerous situation and it’s their best option.
omg this scares me because i’m applying to EPIK soon... i think public schools are less demanding? i used to be a CNA in a nursing home so im no stranger to being abused at work (yikes lol) but man im not sure what to do now!!
Please don’t write you cried everyday before and after school and then add “lol”. You were abused in a way that is often hidden, overlooked and not taken seriously. This kind of abuse is not to be laughed at. Abuse is no joke! These hidden abuses should be exposed and made illegal!!
@@carolynfehr I agree with the last sentence. But, humor can be helpful and healing. It’s my story to tell and victims should have the autonomy to share their story in their own way.
Its interesting such a crap job yet people mainly young and naive go and do these. It sounds a very murky unregulated industry and not safe for young women due to creep bosses etc
I’m an English teacher in Japan. We do have that in some family run English schools and even places like Nova and GABA. One of many things I tell people when they start teaching is to join a teachers’ union. They help in scoping out the schools from the corrupt ones. I’m sure you did your best. I would have just said, F you! Yup I would get out of here! As a teacher to another teacher, you’re a strong lady. No hate from me, and I’ve been teaching in Japan for at least 15 years. Just report the school to other foreigners so they avoid the school completely.
You video is giving entitled YT girl who had the privilege of being a named decides to move to Korea and was shocked that she wasn’t praised and adored for doing the minimum. You should have gotten a job in the US instead of looking for an Adventure in a foreign country
This is ridiculous sorry, so because bts is Korean means Korea is good?😂 Bruh what if BTS using even good, anyway there's a handful of great people in a place doesn't mean that place is great
So basically signing up with the wrong company not thinking it through because you don’t know the language or the culture is a Korean problem. Sorry it happened but…
@@bloodbabe.2226 you are assuming a conspiracy from one testimonial from one ill prepared person who chose to not learn Korean or more than just rumor and hearsay.
@@kimb2758 because you are basing this off of who? The complaints of people not trained in the field culture or language. But show up signing contracts they can’t read, in a culture and legal system they didn’t bother to learn, with no knowledge or certificate to teach esl. Whose scamming who?!? When arrogance and ignorance collide.
I got ripped off by my Hakwon owner. I got off the plane and had to come straight to work and the first thing he did was take my contract and replace it with a new one that had worse terms for me (50 minute classes instead of 45). A few months into the contract we nearly got into a fist fight. He got in my face and threatened to attack. One day when I had enough I provoked him into an argument to get him to fire me and when he fired me I went upstairs to the class that I was supposed to be teaching. I was ten minutes late, but I walked in and the students were perfectly quiet and behaved with their hands on their desks. I said "Hey kids! Teacher got fired! You don't have class today!" The kids raised their hands in the air and said "Yayyyyyy!!!." He tried to not pay me, but I found a labor lawyer who threatened to sue and I got paid.
omfg! You are more detailed. Our pain is the same! OMG the open classes! Horror days...unnecessary stress...no sleep...not good enough. Unrealistic expectations. Kindergarten Hagwon life in Korea is Hell. Also, nobody should shame anyone for escaping toxic work places that affect you emotionally and physically. Glad your free.
Fangirl Ashley yessss agreed. Thank you!! Loved your video and grateful to be connected 💛
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Midnight runners are heroes. Teach those abusive businesses a lesson
i did a real effin nice one
@@ksjs8893 you’re a hero, your story should be told
I feel like unless you’ve flown to korea and had to endure teaching within 24 hours of arrival, you truly can’t understand how hard it is. I am so so sorry you had such a horrible experience. And the whole scamming you into a new contract thing.. WTF! They knew exactly what they were doing.
Yeah, I wish I had the courage to question and stand my ground from the first. Oh well, live and learn, yeah?!? lol Did you have to work right away as well??
@@CourtneyTheExplorer yes, i got in at 11am and worked at 9am the next day
Yup, Korea is not a place for people who don't like working hard.
@@빙고100 it sounds like Korea is for people who don’t have any self respect and dignity in their workplace
@@빙고100 you call it toxic working environment.
Midnight ran after 5-6 months. Just so many lies and the stupid rules…
1. Was told I’d only work 9-7 two days a week but ended up doing that five days a week…
2. Was not allowed to socialise with the Korean teachers at all. Inside or out of school
3. Head of school would go missing for weeks at a time.. nobody knew where she’d go
4. Didnt have a bed in my apartment for 1-2 MONTHS
5. Micromanaging without actually training or giving helpful advice
6. Having to let bad kids misbehave because they can’t afford to lose that child’s money
And more…
I don't have a bed at my apartment. They just bought me a mattress it's so uncomfortable.
i had a prisoner type of bed and it was broken 😂
Also I'm not allowed to talk to other teachers at the school.
@@axolendzimane139North Korea
@@axolendzimane139that’s insane
Thank you for sharing. I'm not a teacher but I am a custodian in an elementary school in the US. I've seen so many red flags within the school just as a custodian and it worries me every day. My boss doesn't care, he is actually leaving, the majority of the teachers don't care about their jobs or the students. In fact they push the kids to act bad, which I don't understand. I'm absolutely overworked, underpaid and treated terrible. It's to the point where I don't even want to go back to work. There's only myself and 1 other lady that takes care of this school and we constantly get talked down on and treated horrible. Somehow she has stuck around for 20 years, I've been there 7 months. This video is a breathe of fresh air, I appreciate your honesty and it's giving me the strength I need to get the f**k away from this job. My mental health is more important.
I have been in Korea for about two months, started work after quarantining and they have changed what I was told every step of the way immediately out of quarantine. I love Korea and have so much fun outside of work but they have me working 6 days a week and the burnout is already so bad. I hate that I worked for so long to get here and am considering leaving after just two months. Thanks for sharing your experience. I miss America so much
Wow, 6 days? I cannot imagine. I don't know how they expect you to survive and enjoy your job under those conditions. I get how it's hard when you invest so much time, effort, and money to get there. It can feel impossible to leave. Before I went to Korea, someone told me to stick it out for 3 months, a lot can change and sometimes it can start to get better at the 3-6 month mark. (This was not the case for me lol but it's the case for a lot of people.) No one can tell you what's right for you, I hope you find the clarity you need
I would Quit
Nothing is worth more than your happiness. Perhaps endure for as long as you can with a idgaf attitude.
This was me too the letter!
I came back to the United States during covid and Donald Trump and I was never so happy to be back in my life!
That is how bad Korea was. My hagwon sucked. I wanted to beat up the entire staff there. I hated it.
Agree. Korea is only for people who love to work.
It seems like hagwon horror stories are the rule rather than the exception.
My first school was awful, I hated it so much and cried all the time. I wish I had left. If any teachers are unhappy I would recommend saving enough money to rent an air bnb, hand in your notice (I know the contract mat say 90days but legally you only need to give 7) and switch to a D10 (seeking employment) visa. Whatever the school threatens you with, there will always be another school - a better option. Check the blacklist! Some renowned Hagwons have nicknames for a reason!! And contact the labor board if you are unsure of any legal issues. Thanks for sharing Courtney, your year was rough but you came out stronger ❤️❤️❤️
So true!!!!!
Your hagwon horror story videos made me feel less crazy and gave me confidence to be honest and share my situation as well. So, thank you
I was an English teacher in Russia, and it was wonderful. I went through Language Links TEFL course in Moscow in 2011, and they placed me near Moscow. I would never go to South Korea to teach. I'm sure some people think they wouldn't go to Russia, but to each their own. I loved it and I'd do it again today. I have some colleagues still there are after being there 15 years already. You can also make bank in Moscow.
Thank you much for sharing your experience with us! I'm so sorry to hear about what you have been through
I went through a very similar situation. It’s crazy how often stuff like this happens!!
Hey girl- I had no idea. Ugh, yeah it's crazy. I'm sorry you had to go through it as well. I'm happy you are in a better situation now
@@CourtneyTheExplorer read my comments.
They need to be boycotted until they learn manners
Thank you for sharing your story! I’m sure there are good places to teach in Korea but I have seen more bad than good. Makes me want to steer clear of South Korea and choose another destination.
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this! I am leaving in 3 weeks to teach in Korea and I love videos like this because I really appreciate how honest you are but are telling others not to be discouraged! Searching for jobs has been so tough especially for hagwons! One of my biggest questions during interviews was about covid-19 and how the school plans on taking care of their teachers. The stories I've heard about teachers during covid is so so upsetting! You had a tough 2020 for sure, hope things are changing around! :)
You’re smart 👌 I wish I would have asked more questions. Cheers to your new chapter!! 😊😊🥳🥳
I have just been treated like total trash by my hagwon during covid times. The government shut us down from December 8th-Janaury 18th. My boss even admitted he didn't care about us. We got paid like 30% during the closure, even though we were teaching a few hours a day online and had a few days of teaching all day in person. As of tomorrow, I have no job. Our hagwon shuts down for good from tomorrow. My payday this week was only 800,000 won. I just want to leave Korea now and be done.
@@shannon2748 I'm so sorry that happened to you! It's def been tough with teaching and pay these last few weeks! I hope you find something new or get to go home! :)
How is it going for you? Hope you had a better experience
@@cinny_ my experience is going great! I’ve been here for 1.5+ years now!
I'm about to do a midnight run in 2 weeks.... my mental health went to shit and I am miserable plus my boss is terrible
I feel you girl, do what you gotta do and get out of there!! Good luck! xo
There's so many of us going through the most hey
I’m a teacher at a hagwon in Suwon and although for the most part I’ve enjoyed my time, I’m not renewing my contract. The apartment they put me in is garbage, they said if I renewed they would put me in a better apartment but I a little bitter I had to be in this dumpster a year anyway. And I don’t really click with the other teachers so I feel very isolated and lonely here. Even though everyone is nice, I keep to myself. They’ve made me uncomfortable. All in all my school wasn’t too bad, we got paid on time (sometimes earlier), I get nice gifts from the parents sometimes (can’t wait to see what I get for Xmas), and some of the kids are sweet but some of the older ones are jerks.
what's the name of that hagwan?
@@thandiwe_umashandu . not gonna say which branch.
If they are nice, why did they make you uncomfortable
If they are nice, why did they make you uncomfortable
@@nikicarrie4071 my (American) coworkers started off the year by making me uncomfortable. I’m one of those people of you make me uncomfortable when I don’t know you, I won’t warm up to you. So when that happened, I kept my distance from them. I still loved the hell out of Korea though! And may go back or try for Japan.
If i see ONE negative comment imma fight... you went through so much sh*t and came out with your battle scars, stronger and tougher, but still with a heart. Proud of you, I really am.
This is why you must always look out for yourself. I've had bad managers, passive aggressive coworkers who turn on you, wage theft (the works). I've learnt to test employers now. If I get any hint of BS or shady behavior I will end up ghosted them.
You are so strong!!! Thank you so much for sharing. You are going to help so many people by being open!!
Omg girl, I'm so glad to know that you are done with that and back home with your mom.
You did way better than me. I pulled a runner after 5 months. Atleast you got a cute apartment. I was dropped in a horrible apartment in Seosan Si, and the Hagwon was a living hell.
I relate to every single word you said here.
OMG I heard about the horrible apartments. I think the apartment made me stay longer. lmao Glad you are safe and got out!
@@CourtneyTheExplorer oh the worst thing? When I got off the plane, speaking barely any Korean, the staffing agency that placed me did not assist me with anything. I was in a foreign country depending on the kindness of strangers.
When I got to my apartment I slept in the stairwell because it was 2:00 am and seosan is a small town.
Yeah, my first and last time being homeless.
Korea the country was beautiful, but not the experience. I never want to go back!
Public School you avoid that issue but obviously the income is a little bit lower starting but it's a much more nicer experience. But obviously you can be anywhere in Korea and by anywhere I mean in a town. But the best thing was when I was at the public school at the height of Corona we were still getting paid even we weren't teaching for like 6 months
Thank you for sharing your experience and I am so sorry something like that happened to you. At the end when you were talking about how your relationship with everyone else at work was it sounded like “trauma bonding”. I hope things are much much better now and that your mom had a full and healthy recovery.
I have my own fair share of terrible things i have been through. I've decided to leave for good and i've been counting the weeks. I really can't wait and I'm pretty sure i won't miss it.
Good for you! Cheers to your next chapter
@@CourtneyTheExplorer Scary to make changes but I'm looking forward to a peaceful chapter. Your video gave me faith.
I'm only 5 minutes in. So far it is a similar story I had in 2001. Teachers quitting midnight runs, falsified signatures reduced severance. I got fired at eight months, two months after the fire without cause expired etc. I ended up staying in Korea another 11 years bouncing from job to job. Loved living there just not the employers
My school had open class and it was the WORST. My school literally made us write scripts of what me and the kids would say (mind you these kids are like 7). Plus we had to make a lesson plan of our made up class. I had to rehearse the class several of times with the director and vice director. My open class had great reviews but i shouldn't have to go through that much stress. Me and my coworkers had no idea what their expectations 2were but that's the typical theme in Korea. Their expectations are ridiculously high on the foreign teachers but their appreciation for us isn't the same.
Janelle Hasana OMGGG scripts?! That’s next level AND with your director. Hell no. 😳😳😳😳😳 i cannot imagine.
Yeah girl. I worked in a big time hagwon like you and when you talked about open class, i fuckin screamed at my phone like fuck yea, that shit was awful 😭
sorry to hear about your horro story. i heard other foreigners who had a bad time. i ended up teaching in sangju for 7 1/2 years and wish i was still there. never had more than 32 hours a week and usually less, and no saturdays. i had a free 4-bedroom apt. on the 6th floor of my hagwon's building. my boss left me alone so long as i did my job. 80 percent of my students were adults. i never hung out with foreigners since my dance card was full with korean friends. many adventures. thank goodness i missed covid. i've heard how bad it was there from some korean friends. as the saying goes, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
What school was that? Thank goodness there are bosses with logic.
I taught at ECC in Deokso (East of Seoul) from 2001-2004. The first 2 years were great then a bitch from hell bought the school. I ended up escaping Korea just in time before they put me on the street. DON'T TEACH IN KOREA PEOPLE.
If you are teaching in Korea, never consider the country home. I made the mistake of starting to put down roots. Live out of your suitcase and be minimalist as hell, and make sure to always have at least enough money in the bank to fly home and survive long enough to get work again there.
There are good people and good experiences to be had here, but hagwon owners are nearly all sociopathic cheats. They may seem nice, but they are the most two-faced people I've ever had the misfortune to meet. They know that you cannot go work at a different school without their permission because of the visa laws, and they will hold that over you to manipulate and control you.
Always be ready to just say "Nope" and hop on a plane back home at the drop of a hat. If they try to manipulate you, just leave and leave fast. It will be best for you and for those who stay as their ability to refuse the hagwon owners nonsense as they will for a short while be afraid of the other teachers leaving too.
I worked for a horrible hagwon. One of us midnight ran, and none of us renewed our contracts. Talking to the new teachers there, they are apparently treated much better than we were.
Everything that can be done to show hagwon owners that they don't have power and have to keep their teachers happy makes things better for everyone else.
oh wow! you had a lunch break without having to be with the kids?! That must be nice! When I was teaching in South Korea, I had to eat with the kids. I understand your pain and I understand those who do midnight runs too. If you have the choice to leave and work somewhere you will be respected and have a better experience, you should take it!!! People who haven't gone through these experiences shouldn't condemn others who had.
My boss ignores me. She doesnt talk to me, she tries by all means to avoid me which is so weird. She just has meetings with other co-workers behind my back. I teach 36 classes a week 200+ students alone. Most of the kids are rude and disrespectful and I receive no support from the Korean teacher's. I'm the only foreign teacher at the school. During school events I get so isolated. I feel so lonely and out of place. I hate working here
I am sooo sorry you had this experience!!!
Wow. The head teacher must really love hagwons and Korea. I could never stay 15 years in a hagwon. 1-2 is enough.
I'm sorry you went through such a horrible experience. And, this is coming from someone that has completed over 5 years of contracts. I'm glad you put yourself first, and decided to leave because these hagwons will never put their teachers first. Yes, you are "breaking the contract", but they get to keep whatever salary, and the flight bonus you left behind. Except for the pension you can still claim that. Korean staff can quit whenever they want. They just shame foreigners for quitting because if takes more time to find a new foreign teacher. Especially if a hagwon pays a low salary or they are on a blacklist because of the poor work environment that is causing teachers to quit in the first place.
Girl, you did the right thing by ghosting them; God blessed you, I am just so proud of you!
The purpose of employment, it's to leverage responsibilities to other individuals to increase productivity. You go there you perform your duties; you go home and that's it. I don't know why working in schools and corporations these days, companies have turned the workplace into an episode of The Jerry Springer show where everyone's having a nervous breakdown, bosses and coworkers alike are creating disruption and throwing chairs at one another(figuratively and literally). On top of all that, they're doing all these manipulative tactics to keep you trapped there. Well you know what, play stupid games win stupid prizes; treat me like a slave while I treat you like a thot.
I'm shocked you even put up with that, for that long. That first day would have been my last day.
I never claim to be perfect teacher. I want to do a lot of things but now my boss whos my supervisor right now just makes it so hard. I honestly feel like crying everyday just dealing with them. No standard what i want was told to me. I am trying to keep it together.
I am literally living my horror story here in South Korea right now
Hope it gets better! I’m
Leaving Korea in a month. I would’ve been here a year but I feel so isolated here. And the apartment is terrible. School loosing a lot of kids too.
Hopefully it gets better. You should try Taiwan 🇹🇼
❤️🙏🏽 you did tge right thing I’m so glad people are talking about this and tge way Korea treats people especially foreigners 🙁 I hope other people will be brave . I hood you guys can all come together and internationally sue them along with other allies . They need to be boycotted until they can treat people with dignity
I’ve been through what you went through twice. The ESL industry is screwed up and you have to be careful. You did the right thing leaving. They were exploiting you.
hi I was just wondering.. before you signed the contract, were you able to talk to any of the workers beforehand? Did they lie saying it was fine?
I'm just dealing with micromanaging now I'm so tired. I got fired it's whatever
I always thought teaching overseas would be fantastic, now I don't believe that to be the case. Incidentally, i have heard that a lot of countries won't allow Australians to teach English because they don't like our accent and use of English. Apparently Japan is one country that when advertising for teaching the ads say Australians need not apply. Not sure about S. Korea, but it sounds likely. After watching your video I feel blessed to never try!!
Great video, and you remind me of the 80's singer Laura Branigan to look at. 💜
I agree I don’t like working for a hagwon either way I’m looking for jobs back home now
I taught in public and private schools in China, but Covid messed up my plans. Now I apply to Japan and Korean high-schools. Training centres or Hogwans as the case in Korea are okay, you just have to accept low standards. Its best to try to stick to a job even if the circumstances get bad. I worked through an agency for my first 2 years but quit because they weren't paying the salary correctly. I got laid off from my 2nd Chinese training school job due to the new gov policies and I worked in a British ran training school after. Had plans to return to public school teaching again but covid and China's dumb policy messed that up. Back in the UK and despite my experiences it's hard to get accepted here and abroad. Maybe I have too much experience. Who knows, however I still believe in tefl teaching even if it means little back home. Would prefer Japan to Korea but Japan seems tricky to get in to. I get the feeling Korea is like China, with a multitude of opportunities, but also with red flags around every corner. Hogwans do have a bad reputation. Because you are young you have time to put this episode behind you. However the more midnight runners there are the worse treatment of foreigners will get. Catch 22.
It’s important to remember that Hagwons a businesses first and school’s second. The owners are in it for profit.
Never mind what people say or think about you...harsh or rude comments mustn't affect you dear.
I am scheduled to leave for Korea like in February but tbh am having second thoughts. I’m hearing from ALOOOOOOT of different people horror stories of working there. The company im going through is Chungdham. Luckily I haven’t signed a contract yet.
To be honest with you, if you can go to a different country id say do it. Korea is brutal. A lot of shit happens here. I have my own personal stories i haven't shared with people. I've cried so many times and i can legit say i hate it here. But if you can endure all these challenges for the sake of money, then try it. Also you might be lucky and your experience might be a little better.
Bro! I just got email from my recruiter. I go on May 8th. But im now 2nd guessing too breh hahahah’ you down to connect on social media to talk about this? I think im out. I’m also doing chungdahm learning
@@hoodieboy1515 hey, sorry to say but that hagwon is on the blacklist. Just google and u can see it on reddit etc. I’ve never been to Korea tho so might be different
I hope you didn't go. Korea is awful. Beautiful country, but go on vacation...not to live and work, especially as a foreigner.
This is so sad☹️ no one should go through this.
I thought I recognized you. I think I saw you at HQ or other bars a couple times. I'm sorry you had so many troubles in Busan. I agree with you. you can stop anytime. Your boss doesn't own you
You know who never gets blamed with any of these horror stories but should? TEFL courses and University programs for teaching English. They always focus on the "best" teaching techniques and never focus on any common sense shit that could actually help someone survive these miserable crappy jobs. In the majority of teaching experiences I've had around the world, using the teaching techniques taught in TEFL courses will lead to student complaints, parent complaints or some type of intervention from the administration. None of this classroom politicking is ever seriously examined in course work even though teacher after teacher after teacher talks about it when they actually take these jobs.
Your video is very helpful for those of us yet to embark. I am sure we can all learn from this. I appreciate your perspective. I have certainly been able to understand what happened with both your side and the employer's. I am looking forward to a future in a similar hagwon.
Didn’t receive and training or orientation and had to/still am training myself
With these open classes, I've never understood why they just don't have the slides that they have prepared and can just re-use every year.....I worked in public school and the textbooks were god awful. The speaking sections were just sooooo dry.
Wait, why did they need you to teach on the day you arrived? I feel like they would have had to wait, I’m going to bed.
I think you're amazing
Good for you
I arrived here on the 10th of November and this is exactly what happened to me. I had to work the day I arrived!! i too should’ve seen the red flags hay
I don’t think I ever complained for living in the US as an immigrant…30 semi years
Is it me or the place?
@@healingdog364 “Complaining” isn’t inherently weak or bad, it’s okay to share abuse, hardships or illegal practices. I had the privilege of being able to leave the situation and never having to go back. I wanted to share my story for those who might have gone through something similar or thinking about immigrating there. Reviews (both good and bad) can be helpful. It sounds like you like the US which is great. 👍🏻
Wtf is Hogwon ?
Yeah im fine with high expectations (even though after working hours without OT are calculated, I make $12 an hour), but like make them fucking clear? idk? Am I crazy orrrrrrrrr
my hero 🙃
Hay, what are the consequences of a midnight run? I heard that you could be banned for life. Is that true?
No, you can get another job after your original visa expires
They could sue you and keep you from leaving if they catch you quickly enough before you board the plane.
for real?? that is nuts...and scary
What is the link for LOFT
facebook.com/groups/520811644598894
You'd think over the 20 years this has been happening that people would wise up forcing the small minority of Hagwons to stop doing things like switch and bait and sub-standard accommodation etc. If you do work for a Hagwon do your research and have a Plan B. (e.g. Japan/Taiwan teaching job and enough money for plane fare and month's rent for a Goshiwon - 'Korean long stay hotel'). Because you may not get your 'release letter' preventing you from legally working elsewhere in Korea.
I would go a step further...don't choose korea as a teach away destination.
You are just gristle for the mill over there.
Yeah, everyone says they roll out the red carpet for teachers but that is a lie...
They threw me in a crappy apartment and made my life hell from the first day I started.
I got job offers from China and Thailand, but I chose Korea. I never want to see that country again.
@@pryncecharming2133 I'm sorry you feel that way. Yes, there are corrupt / bad Hagwon owners who mistreat foreigners and who give the rest of them a bad name. But there ARE decent hagwon owners too, you have to do your research and have your wits about you in Korea and know the score. Plus Korean people, in general, are very accommodating and friendly to foreigners. However, teaching jobs in China are getting better, paying better with a massive rise in living standards and opportunity. So China seems, now, it wasn't before, a better option all round if you get a decent job there. Thailand is Thailand, nothing has changed much and is unlikely to anytime soon, so take your pick.
A majority of that industry is trash. Point blank. Japan and China are similar. I know people who taught in universities still getting gypped.
it should have been illegal not to pay the teachers omg
the way the $$$ conversion hasn't aged well in South Korea at all in the last 3 years since this video was filmed, is unhinged. Now it's $1,600 a month for a starting salary of an esl teacher.
If you are considering doing a midnight run, please post in on youtube, its so funny
FYI if you do break a contract by doing a midnight run, it’s gonna be really hard to get another job in Korea regardless of the program. Just a warning for anyone who’s thinking about it. With that being said if do what you think is best for you
Yup you need that sweet sweet LOR
Not hard to get a job after your original contract length has run out. Give it a year and you'll be fine.
It’s funny how people love pointing the blame at the people who do the midnight run instead of the horrible employers that make them need to do it in the first place! No one goes through all the work of getting a visa and moving to a foreign country because they *want* to have to do this. They do it because they’re put in a dangerous situation and it’s their best option.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Sounds awful
It's understandable to me that you were storming out. I'm a teacher.
omg this scares me because i’m applying to EPIK soon... i think public schools are less demanding? i used to be a CNA in a nursing home so im no stranger to being abused at work (yikes lol) but man im not sure what to do now!!
EPIK is a different story, you will be fine!! :) Good luck!
@@CourtneyTheExplorer omg phew. thank you for replying 😅❤️
Please don’t write you cried everyday before and after school and then add “lol”. You were abused in a way that is often hidden, overlooked and not taken seriously. This kind of abuse is not to be laughed at. Abuse is no joke! These hidden abuses should be exposed and made illegal!!
@@carolynfehr I agree with the last sentence. But, humor can be helpful and healing. It’s my story to tell and victims should have the autonomy to share their story in their own way.
This sounds like a P8LY school? OMG
Its interesting such a crap job yet people mainly young and naive go and do these. It sounds a very murky unregulated industry and not safe for young women due to creep bosses etc
Korea has a problem....
You people need to dump this fantasy about teaching English in Korea and do something else
Ahhhh! The bait and switch. That’s a major red flag.
Sounds like healthcare out numbered, over worked, under paid, & under appreciated.
I’m an English teacher in Japan. We do have that in some family run English schools and even places like Nova and GABA. One of many things I tell people when they start teaching is to join a teachers’ union. They help in scoping out the schools from the corrupt ones. I’m sure you did your best. I would have just said, F you! Yup I would get out of here! As a teacher to another teacher, you’re a strong lady. No hate from me, and I’ve been teaching in Japan for at least 15 years. Just report the school to other foreigners so they avoid the school completely.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your story is incredible, but you really beleaguered the telling to the point I lost interest in the conclusion. Sorry....
This is terrible 😱
You video is giving entitled YT girl who had the privilege of being a named decides to move to Korea and was shocked that she wasn’t praised and adored for doing the minimum. You should have gotten a job in the US instead of looking for an Adventure in a foreign country
@MissSassyFrass You have NO clue what it’s like to work in S. Korea. Just keep your mouth shut.
@MissSassyFrass You have no clue what it’s like to work in S. Korea. Just keep your mouth shut.
Why you SAY THIS, YOU MOT KNOW BTS IS KOREA?? WE KIND PEOPLE, ALL KIND PEOP.E, THIS ONLY LIE haha just kiddi , great v ideo!
ahhhh lol this video does not reflect Korea, I loved the country and met so many cool, nice people!
BBB Smith, You can’t stand the truth.She was not talking about the Korean people she was expressing her experience. Who are you to call her a liar.
This is ridiculous sorry, so because bts is Korean means Korea is good?😂 Bruh what if BTS using even good, anyway there's a handful of great people in a place doesn't mean that place is great
even BTS doesnt get treated like human cuz no one is exception in this hell countrt
So basically signing up with the wrong company not thinking it through because you don’t know the language or the culture is a Korean problem. Sorry it happened but…
Perhaps maybe blame the company that’s exploiting foreigners.
@@bloodbabe.2226 you are assuming a conspiracy from one testimonial from one ill prepared person who chose to not learn Korean or more than just rumor and hearsay.
Lmao this literally happens to so many people because hogwan owners are cheap and abuse workers to save money for themselves
@@kimb2758 because you are basing this off of who? The complaints of people not trained in the field culture or language. But show up signing contracts they can’t read, in a culture and legal system they didn’t bother to learn, with no knowledge or certificate to teach esl. Whose scamming who?!? When arrogance and ignorance collide.
@@kayoss8787 why would anyone qualified to teach take low pay and conditioned offered in Korea!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO please
actually its a lot worse for average korean workers in most korean workplace