Hi Robert, i know this is a old video, but i lost my 3r and 4th gear on my z1000 gen3 2010 ( very bad mechanical sounds when are in 3r and 4th) the others work fine but 3 and 4 gear slipping my question maybe is the input gear? because its come together GEAR,INPUT 3RD4TH,15T18T ? i gonna disasembly this weekend probably.... any sugestion? what other things have to look it? thanks!!
Hi there With it being 2 specific gears it prob gears themselves that are damaged.. might be worth dropping the sump off with the engine in situ and checking on the fork fingers and drum that if memory serves me right can all be got at underneath once the sump is off and the gears can be inspected and see how things are engaging visually..also check for gear teeth peices in the oil and sump .. this can all be done with engine in frame .. Next step is to drop the engine amd split it to get the gear box out.. good luck 👍
Hello, you do not have a video of the process, I have to change the box to my Z1000sx and I was looking for a video or image of the process, it is necessary to lower the engine or the change can be made underneath.
Hi Buddy no I didn't make a vid of the whole process but there should be a few vids on the journey from diagnosis to completion.. the work cannot be done from underneath of its an actual gear change ..the cogs cannot be taken out until the engine is lowered out of the frame and then turned over and the casting split..the gearbox can then be removed .. contrary to the manual the whe top end can be left in situ and need not be touched 👍
Hi freind, I have same problem with my bike... The question is if s necesary dissambly cilinders and upside of engine, or is posible only dissasembly the inferior side of carter to acces to gearbox?? Thanks...
Hi buddy, no you do not have to disassemble the cylinders just remove the engine and split the crankcase from underneath and lift off... Good luck with the repair 👍
@@trebor4460 Thankx Bro... You response reassures me a lot ... Realy I have a Versys 1000, in my gearbox te 3rd gear fail... And the parts of Kawa here in Colombia is very hard to find... Thanks again, Greetings ..
How much time did you spend up until you split the bottom half, with engine removal? My 4th gear ⚙️ is start to going out 😢 I'm a auto mechanic, I think I can do it myself 🤔 never done it before , but I've done a lot of first time scary stuff on a cars😅
@@denniszx9r I rode the bike for weeks a sit gradually got worst ..every time it jumped it damaged the forks tended to go from 3rd through 4th to 5th ..eventually was that bad I had to fix it ..took my time over a couple of weeks ..tip.. get the correct sealant for when you reassemble the engine half's 👍
Hi Rob. I saw the video before this where you had just got the engine out and still had the starter to remove. Once you got the engine out it looks like you turned the engine upside down and removed just the crankcase bolts to get access to the gearbox? That looks reasonably straight forward, the engine removal being the hard part?
Yep pretty straight forward but u got to be meticulous when pulling it apart and nothing where all the pins go as they are different lengths and the clutch needs to be dropped out also ..my advise would defo get a Haynes workshop manual bit ignore where it says to take top end off as well as it assumes u are doing a complete strip down , when in fact for the gearbox ..thankfully..this can all be left alone .
Hello! Can you tell me from what shop did you buy the gearbox? I think I have the same problem with my z1000, buț the problem is that I can’t find a shop...
Hi Buddy, i didnt buy it from a shop there was a bike breaker on ebay that happened to be breaking a z1000sx so i bought the clutch n gearbox off him, i was just lucky ... fingers crossed your gearbox isnt a total right off...
Hi, guys! Tomorrow, I found, that on 4th gear at 3000-5000 rpm i got unpleasant jerks, dips in engine traction or something like that. My Bazzaz traction is bleeping on that moment. The same is wit full of traction, only on 4th gear. 4-th gear stays on, does not fly off to neutral or etc, no knocking in the gearbox right now. Later it occurred again and more often, and at higher rpm too. Only on 4th gear, no failed or fake neutral, z1000 Gen4 2018, 16000 km total. 1.Is it begining of problems with 4th gear sprocket disease? 2.Which sprockets of gearbox i need to buy to fix this issue now or in future? Does it fit from Versus, z900 etc.? 3. Do anybody know the tuning manufacturer with high performance sprockets for z1000 Gen4
Good sockets and good torque wrench, a special tool for holding clutch basket a quality tube of instant gasket when the two halves of the engine are resembled..an engine lift line the one in ny vids to drop the engine out and a special tool for the engine mounts, if I thi I of any more I will post..and most importantly a good workshop manual 👍
@@trebor4460I have exactly the same problem on my 2014 z1000😢with 30k miles on a bike . Where did you get completely assembled shafts with gears? Thank you.
Nice to see what my engine would look like if it was stripped. Can I take it the quick shifter will go the same place as the old gearbox Rob (the bin) or are you going to risk it ?
brother i wrote you a while ago cause ive had your same problem. now I opened up the case and its a total mess, i have to find a full gearbox or a brand new engine, cause replacing it with new gears from kawa is ridicolously expensive. Could you suggest me where to find a new gearbox? same engine... 2014. thank you!
I feel your pain ... you need to trawl the motorcycle breakers for one that is breaking a z1000 preferably late 2015 or 2016, other than that drop the engine e split it and take your gear box out and take the gears off that are slipping, 4th gear invariably and get the new gears from kawasaki and rebuild the gearbox. It's a must to get the Haynes workshop manual if you are going to repair this yourself 👍
@@trebor4460 thank you. in the meanwhile ive found a low mileage 2019 z1000 engine for less than 1000E on boostra.com... Ive just bought it, like few secs ago :D. I do hope next gen engines have better gearbox... however is a f**kin shame. Thank you so much for your help and support. I do appreciate it a lot. have a good day. a big hug from IT
@@giovannialbanese7985 I last rode in December and here in uk we going through some real cold weather at the moment .. will be back in the road hopefuly in March 😎
Sry buddy but I ain't a mechanic so don't mind working in my own bikes but don't work on others .. h8 to bust ya bike and a lot could go wrong when splitting the case..
@@trebor4460 thanks man, I had my gearbox done before under warranty but after taking to few people yesterday they recon its more my clutch slipping rather than gearbox itself
@@trebor4460 yeah since it was replaced I did take care of it, I only did 7k miles then, now the issue came back but it only slips for quarter of a second when before the 4th was completely useless and the noise was terrible
Thinking I have to pull my motor and replace tranny. 15,000 miles and I’ve lost fourth gear almost completely. Don’t even understand how that happens. I never beat on it and my clutch cable is always in spec. Piece of shit. How hard is it to get the motor out?
Good to see it progressing Rob....questions... Ti/Stainless bolts for re assembly? The old gearbox?....would it not be cheaper to replace the individual gears? ( could be an updated part? )... My ocd'ness would never leave me alone if i didnt get the bottom half of the motor cerakoted! 😊
Most of the outer bolts have already been replaced ed with stainless .. The price for replacement parts would have been more than the while gear box I bought .. it's a chance I took but odds are it's ginna be a winner specially after I have now examined it 😉
Hi Robert, i know this is a old video, but i lost my 3r and 4th gear on my z1000 gen3 2010 ( very bad mechanical sounds when are in 3r and 4th) the others work fine but 3 and 4 gear slipping my question maybe is the input gear? because its come together GEAR,INPUT 3RD4TH,15T18T ? i gonna disasembly this weekend probably.... any sugestion? what other things have to look it? thanks!!
Hi there
With it being 2 specific gears it prob gears themselves that are damaged.. might be worth dropping the sump off with the engine in situ and checking on the fork fingers and drum that if memory serves me right can all be got at underneath once the sump is off and the gears can be inspected and see how things are engaging visually..also check for gear teeth peices in the oil and sump .. this can all be done with engine in frame ..
Next step is to drop the engine amd split it to get the gear box out.. good luck 👍
Hello, you do not have a video of the process, I have to change the box to my Z1000sx and I was looking for a video or image of the process, it is necessary to lower the engine or the change can be made underneath.
Hi Buddy no I didn't make a vid of the whole process but there should be a few vids on the journey from diagnosis to completion.. the work cannot be done from underneath of its an actual gear change ..the cogs cannot be taken out until the engine is lowered out of the frame and then turned over and the casting split..the gearbox can then be removed .. contrary to the manual the whe top end can be left in situ and need not be touched 👍
Oka tnks.
Hi freind, I have same problem with my bike...
The question is if s necesary dissambly cilinders and upside of engine, or is posible only dissasembly the inferior side of carter to acces to gearbox??
Thanks...
Hi buddy, no you do not have to disassemble the cylinders just remove the engine and split the crankcase from underneath and lift off... Good luck with the repair 👍
@@trebor4460 Thankx Bro...
You response reassures me a lot ... Realy I have a Versys 1000, in my gearbox te 3rd gear fail... And the parts of Kawa here in Colombia is very hard to find...
Thanks again, Greetings ..
Hello I have z900 and I think it's the same gearbox I wanted to know, when u split the crank case did u remove the timing chain?
How much time did you spend up until you split the bottom half, with engine removal? My 4th gear ⚙️ is start to going out 😢 I'm a auto mechanic, I think I can do it myself 🤔 never done it before , but I've done a lot of first time scary stuff on a cars😅
@@denniszx9r I rode the bike for weeks a sit gradually got worst ..every time it jumped it damaged the forks tended to go from 3rd through 4th to 5th ..eventually was that bad I had to fix it ..took my time over a couple of weeks ..tip.. get the correct sealant for when you reassemble the engine half's 👍
Hi Rob. I saw the video before this where you had just got the engine out and still had the starter to remove. Once you got the engine out it looks like you turned the engine upside down and removed just the crankcase bolts to get access to the gearbox? That looks reasonably straight forward, the engine removal being the hard part?
Yep pretty straight forward but u got to be meticulous when pulling it apart and nothing where all the pins go as they are different lengths and the clutch needs to be dropped out also ..my advise would defo get a Haynes workshop manual bit ignore where it says to take top end off as well as it assumes u are doing a complete strip down , when in fact for the gearbox ..thankfully..this can all be left alone .
Hello! Can you tell me from what shop did you buy the gearbox? I think I have the same problem with my z1000, buț the problem is that I can’t find a shop...
Hi Buddy, i didnt buy it from a shop there was a bike breaker on ebay that happened to be breaking a z1000sx so i bought the clutch n gearbox off him, i was just lucky ... fingers crossed your gearbox isnt a total right off...
Is that a z1000 or ZR 1000 which yr please cheers
Hi Buddy its a 2015 Z1000 gen 4 👍
Hi, guys!
Tomorrow, I found, that on 4th gear at 3000-5000 rpm i got unpleasant jerks, dips in engine traction or something like that.
My Bazzaz traction is bleeping on that moment.
The same is wit full of traction, only on 4th gear. 4-th gear stays on, does not fly off to neutral or etc, no knocking in the gearbox right now.
Later it occurred again and more often, and at higher rpm too.
Only on 4th gear, no failed or fake neutral, z1000 Gen4 2018, 16000 km total.
1.Is it begining of problems with 4th gear sprocket disease?
2.Which sprockets of gearbox i need to buy to fix this issue now or in future? Does it fit from Versus, z900 etc.?
3. Do anybody know the tuning manufacturer with high performance sprockets for z1000 Gen4
I have exactly the same problem on my 2014 z1000😢with 30k miles on a bike .
I’ve got a similar problem my jumps out of gear when I throttle up do I need to buy and special tools
Good sockets and good torque wrench, a special tool for holding clutch basket a quality tube of instant gasket when the two halves of the engine are resembled..an engine lift line the one in ny vids to drop the engine out and a special tool for the engine mounts, if I thi I of any more I will post..and most importantly a good workshop manual 👍
Robert Wright
Many thanks for your reply it looks like I will be watching your videos to do mine
Good job 👏
Do you know where can I buy used gearbox for z1000 2012 ???
Ebay is prob your best bet or trawl your local breakers , I got mine off ebay 👍
@@trebor4460 Hi mate! Great job!! Can you send me a link with the full set of that geaarbox for z1000 2012?
@@Jeffxeneize hi buddy I bought the gearbox complete off a breaker on Ebay it was second hand 👍
Nice Video, was there any issues with the gearbox ?
The dogs on the forth gear were worn causing it to jump in and out of 4th under load and hence damaging the selector..
...did you mean the new gearbox? That was fine 👍
No, i was refering to the old one
Got ya..as first reply then 👍
@@trebor4460I have exactly the same problem on my 2014 z1000😢with 30k miles on a bike . Where did you get completely assembled shafts with gears? Thank you.
Didn't know they made metal chain belts 😆. Jokes aside, what led to the teardown ?
Dogs worn on 4th gear causes it to junp out u der load then re engage..fuks up forks when it does that a few times too
@@trebor4460 Good to know
You'll be out on it Sunday at this rate Robert 😁
LOLZ... i wish ;D
Nice to see what my engine would look like if it was stripped. Can I take it the quick shifter will go the same place as the old gearbox Rob (the bin) or are you going to risk it ?
Quick shifters already been shifted on Ebay Dave, :D
brother i wrote you a while ago cause ive had your same problem. now I opened up the case and its a total mess, i have to find a full gearbox or a brand new engine, cause replacing it with new gears from kawa is ridicolously expensive. Could you suggest me where to find a new gearbox? same engine... 2014. thank you!
I feel your pain ... you need to trawl the motorcycle breakers for one that is breaking a z1000 preferably late 2015 or 2016, other than that drop the engine e split it and take your gear box out and take the gears off that are slipping, 4th gear invariably and get the new gears from kawasaki and rebuild the gearbox. It's a must to get the Haynes workshop manual if you are going to repair this yourself 👍
@@trebor4460 thank you. in the meanwhile ive found a low mileage 2019 z1000 engine for less than 1000E on boostra.com... Ive just bought it, like few secs ago :D. I do hope next gen engines have better gearbox... however is a f**kin shame. Thank you so much for your help and support. I do appreciate it a lot. have a good day. a big hug from IT
@@giovannialbanese7985 no problems with the 2019 gearbox 👍 good luck with the engine swop and stay safe from this dam Covid 👍
@@trebor4460 U too! at the moment my worst problem is I cant ride since late november :D
@@giovannialbanese7985 I last rode in December and here in uk we going through some real cold weather at the moment .. will be back in the road hopefuly in March 😎
where are you based? I'll pay you just to get this done! Please
Sry buddy but I ain't a mechanic so don't mind working in my own bikes but don't work on others .. h8 to bust ya bike and a lot could go wrong when splitting the case..
@@trebor4460 thanks man, I had my gearbox done before under warranty but after taking to few people yesterday they recon its more my clutch slipping rather than gearbox itself
@@adox256 hope it is as its then an easy fix and be surprised if its been repaired once that the box will be bust again 👍
@@trebor4460 yeah since it was replaced I did take care of it, I only did 7k miles then, now the issue came back but it only slips for quarter of a second when before the 4th was completely useless and the noise was terrible
Thinking I have to pull my motor and replace tranny. 15,000 miles and I’ve lost fourth gear almost completely. Don’t even understand how that happens. I never beat on it and my clutch cable is always in spec. Piece of shit. How hard is it to get the motor out?
It's not particularly difficult but you deffo need some mechanical aptitude and a good set of tools, and deffo a good manual .
Good to see it progressing Rob....questions...
Ti/Stainless bolts for re assembly?
The old gearbox?....would it not be cheaper to replace the individual gears? ( could be an updated part? )...
My ocd'ness would never leave me alone if i didnt get the bottom half of the motor cerakoted! 😊
Most of the outer bolts have already been replaced ed with stainless ..
The price for replacement parts would have been more than the while gear box I bought .. it's a chance I took but odds are it's ginna be a winner specially after I have now examined it 😉
the reason for the breakup?
The engine in the zh2 .. 👍
@@trebor4460 in Italy there are more versys 1000SE than 2019 with the gearbox broken, mine is now under repair 30000 km, repair cost 1500 €
@Domenico Mongelli sorry to hear that ..Kawasaki should have admitted there is a problem with the gearbox and fix them ..
@@trebor4460 kawasaki should make a recall for how it did it on other 464 bikes up to 2018 due to gearbox failure, probably it does not suit them ...