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Yes Toby said Jota goal was a tap in a open goal 🤯 when in reality it was last minute running away from the goal on his left two players closing him down , keeper rushing out and at a tight angle 😎
Tobs doesn't understand that trolling the Richarlison celebration isn't about criticizing his celebration. If the game had ended with a draw, all power to him. He has the last laugh. But it didn't, and so, he should hold that. Especially with him as a wind-up merchant, that tattoo, and his spurs history of taking his shirt off for disallowed goals. If that was Son or Kulu scoring that and taking their shirt off, they won't be trolled as much because those players aren't wind-up merchants. And who except Spurs fans cares about Lucas Moura anyway? There is no fun bantering him.
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I think just to add to the Pep vs. Fergie debate. I can see Pep going into international football and winning something, and that for me would be the cherry on top to stand out. Both are world-class! Shout out, Ancelotti, too!
I couldnt beleive richarlison when he too his shirt off. Dudes got neymar on his back 😂😂😂😂. Also Huw, who did you support before 2008? Grizz that prem trophy (1) is going to have dents in it how hard you holding onto it
Exact same thing I was thinking. Pep existed in the SAF era, and arguably was the backbone for the Spanish side that won everything back to back. For me, it’s a no brainer - Pep is clear
Bullshit. Ole beat Pep thrice. Does that mean he’s better than pep? Of course not. Pep got that golden Barca team with messi, Xavi, iniesta then left for Bayern who win the bundesliga 8 times out of 10 and now moved to City spending 100-200mil each season. If Sir Alex had messi or a 100-150 mil transfer budget each summer you would beg to differ.
Sir Alex just nicks it for me, simply for the fact that Pep has always walked into clubs ready made for him to be successful but Sir Alex has had to build two clubs from literally nothing. Plus let’s not forget Pep walked into a treble winning Bayern team that was defending CL winners and never got anywhere near winning it with them
@@alexjames5103 ridiculous statements you’re a clown if you’re going to praise pep for building that 2008 Barcelona squad then you simply have to do with Ferguson with the class of 92 he literally replaced a winning team with youngsters which went onto win the treble
@@___A6for a team that was defending champions and easily one of the best teams in Europe, a semifinal is nowhere near winning it. Plus let’s not forget they won it again not long after he left
Pep is a great tactician but he needs the very best players to do what he wants. Saying he could go to any team is nonsense, the Villa players simply aren't good enough to carry out his tactical demands.
I disagree what pep has shown is that his adaptable, he didn’t have a striker he adapted and played a false 9 system,didn’t have full backs he adapted and played the system his playing now so there is no reason why he won’t adapt at villa
It actually makes me sick how people just forget how ridiculously insane VVD was at his peak. Lmfao. History will be kind to him regardless of what you rival fans say😂 no1 compares his peak, idc about any longevity argument.
Oh sure ok I forgot 2017-2022 minus 1 year with an ACL injury equates to 2 years. Man get some help, and stop your unnecessary hate. Until this season he was literally unanimously seen as the best CB in the world. One bad season doesn’t change the facts.
@@muhammada4297 VVD was great for 3 years at Southampton too chief. Club’s Player of the Season in his first campaign there, which just happened to be Southampton's best league finish in more than 30 years when they finished 6th in 15/16. So he’s definitely played at an elite level for more than 2 years in the league.
Tobs is one of my favourite panel members, but wow, he genuinely could easily be the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen. Imagine if Grealish or Havertz scored the first goal in the last week of April! Unbelievable hypocrisy! I'm still in shock how he thinks we can't see his hypocrisy, lol
Pep easily schools Sir Alex in a knockout tie or in a league competition. Tactically superior too. How is this even a debate? People are just blindsided by his 13 PL title but if you take the emotion out of it deep down Pep is better.
Hugh won't know this because he only started watching a few years ago but "where we belong" for Man City is league 1. That level of smugness from that level of glory hunting plastic is beyond the pale tbh. Someone send him for a chat with an actual Manc.
He's a privately schooled Dublin posh boy bell-end who forgets there's 100+ charges incoming. Spurs are a self built club, no state bail out. PS Anyone who thinks his accent is Irish is gravely mistaken. Dublin 4 wanker accent.
Hmmmm 143 years of existance and only one of those in the third tier. More top flight seasons as a club than Chelsea and Spurs. Think you need to reassess.
When grizz said he can “imagine that being funny” regarding Van Disney he wasn’t being petty because as a spurs fan I can also imagine richy celebrating for no reason funny. But I don’t cos I’m a spurs fan kmt
Look, the amount the players played last few years is insane. Any of even the most elite wouod be exhauste. Lack of depth of squad = poor planning ahead.
Man City have spent 1,5 billion pounds in transfers. Pep has 2 starting 11's. Troopz once said that Man Cities bench 11 would get top 4 and their starting 11 wins the premier league. That amount of money is not to be sniffed at in comparison to the rest of the Prem. The EPL is now realising that it's becoming a Bundesliga where one team is just guaranteed to win every year and they have only now started to look into Cities finances. FFP is a massive joke because even Todd found a way around it publicly, Imagine what City have been doing silently...
Wrong!! City doesn't have 20 players in the squad it's on something like 18 so no 2 elevens, city spent 1.2 united spent 1.1 during that time and Chelsea spent like 1.4 during that time it's turning to the Bundesliga simply cause of pep.
Love both SAF and Pep. Levels mate. SAF made Phil Jones look like the next Maldini. The guy could've played anywhere in defense even played some as a DM. After SAF left the guy has more memes than appearances. Pep was able to transform Jack Grealish's work rate from lazy to tracking back like Bernardo Silva. The way he tracked back to stop Salah and Saka, he would've never done that at Villa.
Won the UCL with the greatest player of all time (Messi) greatest midfield trio of all time (Xavi busquest iniesta) and has failed to win it ever since now he’s finally on course to win it after adding the best striker in the world lol
Citeh have got West Ham; Leeds; Madrid (a) & Everton (a) all in the space of 11 days. If they spank each one then fair play, plaudits. Personally, I think points will be dropped.
Nobody mentioned that Pep failed to win the Ucl for 10 years now, despite spending 1 billion at City and having one of the best Bayern sides, if not the best ever. He joined Bayern after the treble 2013 and added Thiago, Götze, Lewandowski, Xabi Alonso, Vidal, Douglas Costa… to the squad. He should have won at least one Ucl with this Bayern team or City by now
People talk like SAF has 6 champion's leagues. They have the same number. You could argue that perhaps pep should have won a couple more but at the end of the day, CL is a cup competition. The best team doesn't always win so basing opinion over winning with the best team is ridiculous
@@antiantiantiantifan This is too easy, Pep has lost semis and finals in Ucl mostly because of his formations and tactics. For instance leaving Müller and Ribery out in 2016 semis against Atleico or playing without CDM in final against Chelsea. Winning narrow games is part of being a good coach, Mourinho‘s record in those games is better
@@AB-jg1ny And yet Mourinho is now fighting for Europa whist pep is still fighting for champions league. Winning narrow games is part of being a good coach, but so is learning to adapt and staying on top
Turkish, what was that IPTV plug you used to promote back in the day who sold the service where you can stream live sports & tv in general at a cheap rate? Would love to know, looking to buy that myself
This Pep v. Fergconk is no debate. He came to the scum in 1988..spent millions on players..we battered them 5-1 in 1989 & then took him 10yrs to scrawp the C.L. & that treble with only 79pts in the League 79!...same as the invincibles!...& A lucky FA cup win. No contest gang 🔝🔥🦈
guardiola first champions league of the 11 started the final he bought dani alves,Pique and busquest left barcelona B and in the bench he bought hleb,keita 2nd champions league of the 11 he had villa and pedro instead of eto'o and henry, mascherano was centre back and abidal left back but he was already on the team of 09 i dont think he did a lot of changes on the team we cant say he did the rebuild that he did at city and he already had the core of the team (messi,xavi,iniesta,puyol,valdes) but he change how they play football it was 10 times better at bayern lets be honnest was a failure he arrived they had won the champions and he got to 3 semifinal in 3 years lost in to 3 diferent spanish teams ( barcelona, real madrid and atletico) he in 3 years bought Gotze, Lewandowski, xabi alonso, vidal, coman, douglas costa, thiago and lets not forget he play againts a dortmound in decline was champion 3 times and won 2 pokal cups again not a big rival in 3 season to resume i dont think he did a big rebuild at barcelona and bayern like TOBS said but the football change
Pep changed the way of playing in the EPL, all teams from first division to Sunday league try to play like Pep. Pep maked coaches. All things SAF didn't do.
Don’t feel bad grizz. My car got broken into and I had my purse in the backseat on the floor, stupid yes but, the mofos didn’t even take that! They took my daughters hello kitty bag with her ballet shoes and dance wear and my Hotwings!!!!! Y’all, the chicken wings had me pissed cause I was gonna tear those bad boys up but, what can you do🤷🏽♀️
Hugh said pep built two and three sides that won trophies and he attributed it to pep being a genius. Awesome. FFP be damned. The league is done. I said begining of the season everyone is playing for second.
@@rajkaranvirk7525 well I think it's good to let your mum come first 😂 You gloryhunters are pathetic, giving it 100, never been to emptyhad and think you can banter proper fans 😂
Guardiola: inherented the best team of all time at Barca that was comprised mostly of players who had just won the Euros for Spain playing the “Tika-Taka” brand of football. Won the CL in 2009 by beating Chelsea in the most controversial match of the 21st century as far as the officiating was concerned. Won in 2011 by beating Arsenal after Rvp got sent off for being offside. Got dumped out of the CL by 10 man Chelsea in 2012 and run ragged in the league Mourinho’s Madrid. Inherited treble winners at Bayern and failed to take them back to the CL final. Inherited a City team that already knew how to win league titles and increased the rate at which they’ve been able to win them but hasn’t won anything his predecessors didn’t after spending a billion pounds. Also currently being investigated for cheating. Mourinho, Sir Alex and possibly Ancelotti if he beats him again in a week or two have more impressive CV’s.
Afc.. we go beat fair.. but you can see the difference performance from City, they just prepared more, experience, better Manager right now, and done multiple time.. KDB has been average for most of season, then coming, the big occasion , he had his best game of the season.. well done City..
What's even the point of FFP, FFS? Oil clubs like city, Chelsea & psg are making an absolute mockery of it. They should bring in a wages limit, if they want to save football & give all the big clubs an equal chance to compete.
What have Chelsea done that makes a mockery of FFP? They've complied with FFP ever since it was introduced. Lumping Chelsea in with City who have literally been cooking their books in order to stay compliant is mad.
@@JD-mc3bl That ban had nothing to do with FFP mate. It had to do with the academy and rules about trialists. Also, so what about Boehly's spend? Which isn't 700m btw.
NGL if I retired as a manager after winning 13 league titles and saw people stating that a guy which hadn’t even won half of that was better than me I’d be so annoyed you guys done this two years ago and try say Klopp was better than Fergie aswell and look how that ended lol
Pep had only been in the job for 7 years and has 5 prem titles thats a rate of 71.4% Fergie was manager for 27 years and won 13 titles, thats a rate of 48%
@@ra7671 10/15 years ago anyone one of the top6 sides could have won the premier league year in year out you had teams like Milan inter Dortmund Bayern etc well capable of winning the UCL nowadays the premier league is literally a one horse race for city and in the UCL only really Madrid and maybe maybe Bayern could win it pep is a great manager but kinda has it easy compared to other generations
@@yeahyou3922 Not true, the liverpool sides that have finished second in the league were literally fighting for a quadruple and won the UCL in 2019, they are probably the greatest runners up ever and city beat them to a title twice
All these people jizzing their pants for Pep need a reality check. Man spends 150mil each season with a bench that already betters most starters for other Top 6 sides. How bad could u possibly be with this current City squad being what is? BS Talk about being adaptable…pep will dash u if u don’t fit his system and just buy another player.
Haaland has been phenomenal this season but funnily enough he has to do this for another 15 years or so to match CR7 & Messi’s numbers so it will be interesting to see how Haaland’s career pans out
Why can't you make statements on this show without ppl getting salty, that man city guy wants ppl to say Pep be better than Alex even tho we watched Alex for 20+ yrs and Pep be like 5-6 yrs
@@matissearmani because were talking about the premier league? Last time I checked the league was the hardest trophy to win was you seriously expecting me to included the few league titles he started padded out in Germany? and if I included what he won in Germany this wouldn’t be a debate
Yes he is, he said "all the time", last time Klopp did it was the Atletico game at the start of COVID, except if you have some more recent example. Also, salty haters always ignore context, Klopp was asked why they struggled after being 3-0 up and the point of his reply is that Spurs didn't open up after that so his team relaxed, not expecting much threat.
@@alexab543 he literally did it against spurs twice last year when they drew to them both times. Great manager but moans all the time when he doesn’t get his way
And what ..you rival fans will exaggerate, clip and moan about snippets here and there. A world class manager will always be able to antagonise those desperate for validation. Comment about it so we know who you are 🧐😂
@@danieldhesi7151 OK, I remember he talked about Conte's style in the away game, but isn't that what managers are supposed to do, analyse the games? Was anything he said offensive? Also, in that game we were robbed blind by Manchester's Paul Tierney and Chris Kavanagh with the Kane red card not given while Robbo was sent off for much less and the Jota penalty not given, so I imagine he was pretty annoyed by that.
Sir alex Ferguson is a checkbook manager? These rivals fans absolutely waffle the most shit. As if Ferguson hasn't taken a Broken down United with aging side and drinking culture to make it the super club in the 90s. And throughout the whole 90s other teams out spent United every single year. And you couldn't get a not well informed fan like Saeed on United matters. GOAT managers like Mourinho calling Sir Alex the boss. He's the GOAT
@@u1x140 Moyes 1 year 64mil Van gaal 2 years 258mil Mourihno 3 years 363mil Ole 3 years 373mil Pep's 220mil a season still the highest starting budget for any manager ever in the league.
Did Matisse really say Sir Alex wouldn’t of done what he done outside England? A lot of people seem to forget what Sir Alex done in Scotland (3 cups) (4league title) (1 league cup) (one super cup) since he left Scotland in 81/82 only rangers and Celtic have gone onto win that league just deep that
@@matissearmani you can’t be praising Pep for doing it in other leagues ie Germany then discrediting Ferguson for what he done in Scotland when no other team has done it since the 80’s as klopp even once said he could of stayed in Germany for guaranteed trophies pep couldn’t do what he done in Scotland undebatable
@@matissearmani let’s not forget it wasn’t long ago you were claiming that Tuchel is up their with pep😂😂Fergie would of eclipsed what pep done in Germany and we all know we’re not going to see a Scottish manager taking over Barcelona or Real Madrid for example
Don’t mean to nitpick, but saying Alvarez is not WC is a bit absurd. Wasn’t he the 22yr old striker to drop kicked Martinez out of his starting spot in the World Cup bc the manager saw how versatile he was and more importantly, Messi wanted Alvarez up top as a partner? When Messi says he wants Alvarez in the World Cup next to him leading the line all the way through the tournament including the final (and he scored goals throughout the knockout stages too), I think it’s pretty hard to argue he’s not a WC player.
@@brandonG4442 Fair enough. But now you have to defend that statement. Why is he not a world class striker. I’m just curious as i think a lot of people have different ideas about what it actually means. Also, he was one of the top scorers in S America last season and won South American player of the year. Add that to Messi wanting him to lead the line in the WC, he scored 4-5 goals in it during knockout stage with 2 in semi final.
@@Jeffstrongman12 well you're being subjective and I've spoken facts. Don't worry we know your clubs shite and you're projecting. Stay strong Tariq it may get better.
Guys before getting into debates we need to distinguish between a manager and a head coach Sir Alex, Wenger and Ancelotti etc are managers... Klopp Pep Mourinho etc are coaches... The game has evolved and also very few ppl can do a manager role... Sir Alex took a club that was in the doldrums and made into a not only the most successful club in the world in terms of trophies, he made it the worlds most valuable sports franchise worth billions. Coaches walk into clubs where the structure for talent id,transfer, finances and other resources are already setup... I remember KDB was signed already while Pellegrini was in charge for pep.. If you say pep has impacted the game and hence the greatest coach... I personally feel Klopp and Jose better cos they have achieved the same or more with lesser resources
The same or more😭, remind me which one of them won 4 prems in 5 seasons. Bouta be 5 prems in just 6 seasons. Put some respect on Pep’s name, he’s the most influential manager of all time.
Dont b pissed fam.. u won suming last season. 👏👏💯 7up dont count as shit in prem. 3 points. If done that in a cup comp. Maybe ud have a trophy 2 rudeboy.💯💥👹👹👹
I can’t lie saeed is probably the worst man United rep he sucks at defending man United when grizz or someone else comes at United he can’t defend it I swear man it’s annoying
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Does Turkish give you p for doing this?
Yes Toby said Jota goal was a tap in a open goal 🤯 when in reality it was last minute running away from the goal on his left two players closing him down , keeper rushing out and at a tight angle 😎
I love this show man, Turkish & Saeed leaning into their screens when Matisse brought up Kai Havertz doing a pigeon dance has my ribs hurting 😂
Man said in Liverpool worst season “ever ever” has Grizz forgotten before Klopp era Liverpool was finishing 6th 7th 8th season in season out
Grizz is a waffler 😂
LOOOL they forgot they were shit for 25 years
Liverpool were consistently in the CL until like 2010 mate
@@mattm.9452 He started watching PL after the 2008 oil revolution so no point time wasting with him :)
You dont watch the prem mate. Exposed.
Tobs doesn't understand that trolling the Richarlison celebration isn't about criticizing his celebration. If the game had ended with a draw, all power to him. He has the last laugh. But it didn't, and so, he should hold that. Especially with him as a wind-up merchant, that tattoo, and his spurs history of taking his shirt off for disallowed goals.
If that was Son or Kulu scoring that and taking their shirt off, they won't be trolled as much because those players aren't wind-up merchants. And who except Spurs fans cares about Lucas Moura anyway? There is no fun bantering him.
Of he course he don`t understand it. If he had 2 brain cells he would not support Spurs in the first place.
The guy has took his top off more times this season for celebrating than goals scored ffs
Plus what was all that with him trying to piggy back the poor steward.. richarlison shameless pos
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I think just to add to the Pep vs. Fergie debate. I can see Pep going into international football and winning something, and that for me would be the cherry on top to stand out. Both are world-class! Shout out, Ancelotti, too!
Saeed glitched 49:04-49:17 😭😭💀
The conversation of GOAT managers put Don Carlo in the conversation
49:05 😂😂😂😂 What is Saeed doing lmao
😂😂😂😂😂😂
he's stretching his neck. It feels quite good actually
That Richarlison tattoo is wild but I don't blame him for the celebration ngl 😂
I couldnt beleive richarlison when he too his shirt off. Dudes got neymar on his back 😂😂😂😂. Also Huw, who did you support before 2008? Grizz that prem trophy (1) is going to have dents in it how hard you holding onto it
Big up. Didn’t catch the show live but keep up the good work.
Pep already beat Sir Alex 2x, 2 different ways. He’s the best
Exact same thing I was thinking. Pep existed in the SAF era, and arguably was the backbone for the Spanish side that won everything back to back. For me, it’s a no brainer - Pep is clear
facta as a coach he for sure clear
Idiotic
Bullshit. Ole beat Pep thrice. Does that mean he’s better than pep? Of course not. Pep got that golden Barca team with messi, Xavi, iniesta then left for Bayern who win the bundesliga 8 times out of 10 and now moved to City spending 100-200mil each season. If Sir Alex had messi or a 100-150 mil transfer budget each summer you would beg to differ.
@@Haraamcore13 You sound like you were born in 2007 🤣
Hahah! Toby the first 10 min🥳🤣🤣
Sir Alex just nicks it for me, simply for the fact that Pep has always walked into clubs ready made for him to be successful but Sir Alex has had to build two clubs from literally nothing. Plus let’s not forget Pep walked into a treble winning Bayern team that was defending CL winners and never got anywhere near winning it with them
Never got anywhere near? Really? Consistent semi finals?
Nah sir alex was just lucky with money and class of 92 talents
@@alexjames5103 ridiculous statements you’re a clown if you’re going to praise pep for building that 2008 Barcelona squad then you simply have to do with Ferguson with the class of 92 he literally replaced a winning team with youngsters which went onto win the treble
I know right?
@@___A6for a team that was defending champions and easily one of the best teams in Europe, a semifinal is nowhere near winning it. Plus let’s not forget they won it again not long after he left
Haaland was bagging a goal a game before he landed at City. Why does Hugh want to talk about something we all predicted so much?
Combine the best striker in the world with a system that let raheem sterling score 100+ goals what did he think would happen 🤣
Best show on RUclips 😂
People always seem to have an issue with klopp telling the truth. No other managers do it so ppl aint used to it
You can tell Turkish is passionate about Arsenal because I saw his countenance change so much at 1:48:14
Pep is a great tactician but he needs the very best players to do what he wants. Saying he could go to any team is nonsense, the Villa players simply aren't good enough to carry out his tactical demands.
I disagree what pep has shown is that his adaptable, he didn’t have a striker he adapted and played a false 9 system,didn’t have full backs he adapted and played the system his playing now so there is no reason why he won’t adapt at villa
Facts. Pep is like that chef that can make u amazing meal IF YOU provide the best freaking ingredients.
@@lib1326 ok stick him in division 4 with no money see if he wins the champions league
It actually makes me sick how people just forget how ridiculously insane VVD was at his peak. Lmfao. History will be kind to him regardless of what you rival fans say😂 no1 compares his peak, idc about any longevity argument.
History will not be kind to him he had like 2 good years😂
Oh sure ok I forgot 2017-2022 minus 1 year with an ACL injury equates to 2 years. Man get some help, and stop your unnecessary hate. Until this season he was literally unanimously seen as the best CB in the world. One bad season doesn’t change the facts.
Best prem defender ever named vvd as his favourite..that speaks volumes.
@D Se nah you’re just hating 🤣
@@muhammada4297 VVD was great for 3 years at Southampton too chief. Club’s Player of the Season in his first campaign there, which just happened to be Southampton's best league finish in more than 30 years when they finished 6th in 15/16. So he’s definitely played at an elite level for more than 2 years in the league.
How is Ancelotti not mentioned once ? More UCL than both of them together
Tobs is one of my favourite panel members, but wow, he genuinely could easily be the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen. Imagine if Grealish or Havertz scored the first goal in the last week of April! Unbelievable hypocrisy! I'm still in shock how he thinks we can't see his hypocrisy, lol
Pep easily schools Sir Alex in a knockout tie or in a league competition. Tactically superior too. How is this even a debate? People are just blindsided by his 13 PL title but if you take the emotion out of it deep down Pep is better.
People are just blind sided by his 13 PL wins?!!?!
Have a word with yourself! How many had your team got in their entire existence! Behave yourself.
Hugh won't know this because he only started watching a few years ago but "where we belong" for Man City is league 1. That level of smugness from that level of glory hunting plastic is beyond the pale tbh.
Someone send him for a chat with an actual Manc.
It's not hayzeus. Guy watched him play for like 6 years and still doesn't know his name smfh.
Who do you support?
He's a privately schooled Dublin posh boy bell-end who forgets there's 100+ charges incoming. Spurs are a self built club, no state bail out. PS Anyone who thinks his accent is Irish is gravely mistaken. Dublin 4 wanker accent.
City full of gloryhunters....not fair on proper supporters. Who get shade because of cringe comments.
Hmmmm 143 years of existance and only one of those in the third tier. More top flight seasons as a club than Chelsea and Spurs. Think you need to reassess.
When grizz said he can “imagine that being funny” regarding Van Disney he wasn’t being petty because as a spurs fan I can also imagine richy celebrating for no reason funny. But I don’t cos I’m a spurs fan kmt
Look, the amount the players played last few years is insane. Any of even the most elite wouod be exhauste.
Lack of depth of squad = poor planning ahead.
FACT CHECK: SAF won 37 trophies in his entire career not 49. It’s 47 including community shields but that’s not a trophy.
Man City have spent 1,5 billion pounds in transfers. Pep has 2 starting 11's. Troopz once said that Man Cities bench 11 would get top 4 and their starting 11 wins the premier league. That amount of money is not to be sniffed at in comparison to the rest of the Prem. The EPL is now realising that it's becoming a Bundesliga where one team is just guaranteed to win every year and they have only now started to look into Cities finances. FFP is a massive joke because even Todd found a way around it publicly, Imagine what City have been doing silently...
Wrong!!
City doesn't have 20 players in the squad it's on something like 18 so no 2 elevens, city spent 1.2 united spent 1.1 during that time and Chelsea spent like 1.4 during that time it's turning to the Bundesliga simply cause of pep.
Manchester United have spent more than them in the same amount of time. Money doesn't equal success
Liverpool 3-1 Fulham
Manchester City 3-1 West Ham
Brighton 2-2 Manchester Utd
Grizz book that europa league final lad
Cause United flopped it this season.. Sevilla 😂
@@TheMercWithMouth we had bigger fish to fry 🤣🤣😭
@@filowey 😂😂
Love both SAF and Pep. Levels mate.
SAF made Phil Jones look like the next Maldini. The guy could've played anywhere in defense even played some as a DM. After SAF left the guy has more memes than appearances.
Pep was able to transform Jack Grealish's work rate from lazy to tracking back like Bernardo Silva. The way he tracked back to stop Salah and Saka, he would've never done that at Villa.
Phil Jones had all the potential in the world but his body let him down
Why has Saeed got a Hitler tash
Peps the only signing city should worry about
Every time the Man U segment comes on Turkish disappears for part of it.
Because they are a dead team lol
He disappeared even when chelsea was being talked bout so I don't think That's a thing
He does it at random points on every stream. 100% having a couple of puffs off camera because them eyes get more glassy as time goes on
@@franklyncap4691 a dead team has 3 more ucls than u
Won the UCL with the greatest player of all time (Messi) greatest midfield trio of all time (Xavi busquest iniesta) and has failed to win it ever since now he’s finally on course to win it after adding the best striker in the world lol
Citeh have got West Ham; Leeds; Madrid (a) & Everton (a) all in the space of 11 days.
If they spank each one then fair play, plaudits.
Personally, I think points will be dropped.
Nobody mentioned that Pep failed to win the Ucl for 10 years now, despite spending 1 billion at City and having one of the best Bayern sides, if not the best ever. He joined Bayern after the treble 2013 and added Thiago, Götze, Lewandowski, Xabi Alonso, Vidal, Douglas Costa… to the squad. He should have won at least one Ucl with this Bayern team or City by now
He Faced Messi n Cr7 during that period which is Game Over
People talk like SAF has 6 champion's leagues. They have the same number. You could argue that perhaps pep should have won a couple more but at the end of the day, CL is a cup competition. The best team doesn't always win so basing opinion over winning with the best team is ridiculous
City spending over £1.5bill for potentially 1cl😂😂. City have cooked the books for trophies.
@@antiantiantiantifan This is too easy, Pep has lost semis and finals in Ucl mostly because of his formations and tactics. For instance leaving Müller and Ribery out in 2016 semis against Atleico or playing without CDM in final against Chelsea. Winning narrow games is part of being a good coach, Mourinho‘s record in those games is better
@@AB-jg1ny And yet Mourinho is now fighting for Europa whist pep is still fighting for champions league. Winning narrow games is part of being a good coach, but so is learning to adapt and staying on top
Toby always looks pissed off 😂😂
32:00 - matisse COOKED tobs😂
28:27
34:02
we will see if Undav is still a plumber like you said.. hold that!!
Disgusting from Turkish and Grizz to back SAF in the GOAT manager debate.
Who do you think is the GOAT manager? SAF has 13 PL titles, 38 trophies including 2 champ.league.
Turkish, what was that IPTV plug you used to promote back in the day who sold the service where you can stream live sports & tv in general at a cheap rate? Would love to know, looking to buy that myself
This Pep v. Fergconk is no debate. He came to the scum in 1988..spent millions on players..we battered them 5-1 in 1989 & then took him 10yrs to scrawp the C.L. & that treble with only 79pts in the League 79!...same as the invincibles!...& A lucky FA cup win. No contest gang 🔝🔥🦈
WestHam fan from Mattise channel said they are going to finish above manutd
guardiola first champions league of the 11 started the final he bought dani alves,Pique and busquest left barcelona B and in the bench he bought hleb,keita
2nd champions league of the 11 he had villa and pedro instead of eto'o and henry, mascherano was centre back and abidal left back but he was already on the team of 09
i dont think he did a lot of changes on the team we cant say he did the rebuild that he did at city and he already had the core of the team (messi,xavi,iniesta,puyol,valdes) but he change how they play football it was 10 times better
at bayern lets be honnest was a failure he arrived they had won the champions and he got to 3 semifinal in 3 years lost in to 3 diferent spanish teams ( barcelona, real madrid and atletico) he in 3 years bought Gotze, Lewandowski, xabi alonso, vidal, coman, douglas costa, thiago and lets not forget he play againts a dortmound in decline was champion 3 times and won 2 pokal cups again not a big rival in 3 season
to resume i dont think he did a big rebuild at barcelona and bayern like TOBS said but the football change
First 5 years of Alex Ferguson Man United career: 0 trophies 🏆
First 5 years of Pep Man city career: 7 trophies 🏆
The facts are there. Pep 🐐
First 5 years of Jose morinho Chelsea career: 6 trophies
😮 Alex Ferguson had 0 trophies for 5 years? He’d be sacked in todays game 😂
First 5 seasons of Klopps liverpool career:
Champions League
Uefa supercup
Club world cup
Premier League
Grizz is wrong. Ozil has the record of 7 consecutive matches with an assist. Fabregas is 2nd with 6. Trent is 3rd.
Trent’s the first ever player to do 5+ consecutive matches with an assist twice in a row. Grizz probably just got confused with the stat
You all are wrong. 🙂🙂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@antjames7224 he’s correct chief. Google is free.
@Ant Janes
*You are all 🤦🏻♂️
@@kunimitsune177Wrong, you all are.
Pep changed the way of playing in the EPL, all teams from first division to Sunday league try to play like Pep. Pep maked coaches. All things SAF didn't do.
**PL*
If you can't get the name of the league right you don't get an opinion.
@@kunimitsune177 You know that Rusia has also a PL. So the E =English. Also if thats the only reaction you can give maybe I'm richt with my opinion.
Wenger*
Imagine pep at a club without a massive chequebook
@@TheMercWithMouth Ferguson broke the world record 3 times by the way
Great show as always 👍
Don’t feel bad grizz. My car got broken into and I had my purse in the backseat on the floor, stupid yes but, the mofos didn’t even take that! They took my daughters hello kitty bag with her ballet shoes and dance wear and my Hotwings!!!!! Y’all, the chicken wings had me pissed cause I was gonna tear those bad boys up but, what can you do🤷🏽♀️
Stick to baseball.
How can City win a treble when they’re against Madrid AND they’re the least likely to win the champions league 😅
Saeed cleverly copies whatever cams says on stoppageTime
Can’t stand this City Fan! Sits here smug every week doing the wise man talk!
Cope😂😂😂
Hugh said pep built two and three sides that won trophies and he attributed it to pep being a genius. Awesome. FFP be damned. The league is done. I said begining of the season everyone is playing for second.
City nothing without sugar daddy lottery. Pep success down to lottery win.
And you always will be playing for second 😂
@@rajkaranvirk7525 well I think it's good to let your mum come first 😂
You gloryhunters are pathetic, giving it 100, never been to emptyhad and think you can banter proper fans 😂
Pep > Man City. After Pep, that club is finished.
Nicholas Pepe is seen as a flop but he contributed even more than Martial. If Martial ain't a flop then Pepe ain't
Martial was good from 2015-2020 then fell off after that
Guardiola: inherented the best team of all time at Barca that was comprised mostly of players who had just won the Euros for Spain playing the “Tika-Taka” brand of football. Won the CL in 2009 by beating Chelsea in the most controversial match of the 21st century as far as the officiating was concerned. Won in 2011 by beating Arsenal after Rvp got sent off for being offside. Got dumped out of the CL by 10 man Chelsea in 2012 and run ragged in the league Mourinho’s Madrid.
Inherited treble winners at Bayern and failed to take them back to the CL final.
Inherited a City team that already knew how to win league titles and increased the rate at which they’ve been able to win them but hasn’t won anything his predecessors didn’t after spending a billion pounds. Also currently being investigated for cheating.
Mourinho, Sir Alex and possibly Ancelotti if he beats him again in a week or two have more impressive CV’s.
Everything you said about his Barca run is wrong lmao, average PL fan
@@daffy6099 it’s literally facts go look it up lmao. Google is your friend.
@@mattm.9452 Google lmao. I watched every game then. What you're saying is just Prem fan and social media narratives that have run
@@daffy6099 well yeah since your memory doesn’t seem to be working google might help
Pep's a mad man when it comes to tactics, but knocked SAF twice, Mourinho couldn't win UCL with Galactio Madrid/Chelsea/UTD
mah got tobs with his hypocrisy
Afc.. we go beat fair.. but you can see the difference performance from City, they just prepared more, experience, better Manager right now, and done multiple time.. KDB has been average for most of season, then coming, the big occasion , he had his best game of the season.. well done City..
What's even the point of FFP, FFS? Oil clubs like city, Chelsea & psg are making an absolute mockery of it. They should bring in a wages limit, if they want to save football & give all the big clubs an equal chance to compete.
True. Once city get dug out for cheating and made an example of..things will change.
What have Chelsea done that makes a mockery of FFP? They've complied with FFP ever since it was introduced. Lumping Chelsea in with City who have literally been cooking their books in order to stay compliant is mad.
@@bookclub5021 🤣🤣🤣mate, you forgot about the transfer ban you had a while back? also, What about the 700m Todd has spend? 🤣🤣🤣
@@JD-mc3bl That ban had nothing to do with FFP mate. It had to do with the academy and rules about trialists. Also, so what about Boehly's spend? Which isn't 700m btw.
@@bookclub5021 If not 700, then how much is it?
😂😂😂 tap in tobbs looks like his been caught by his misses cheating 😂
Aberdeen have a European Cup because of Sir Alex
NGL if I retired as a manager after winning 13 league titles and saw people stating that a guy which hadn’t even won half of that was better than me I’d be so annoyed you guys done this two years ago and try say Klopp was better than Fergie aswell and look how that ended lol
💯💯💯👏👏👏 liverpool pissed coz united doing well m8.🤡
Pep had only been in the job for 7 years and has 5 prem titles thats a rate of 71.4%
Fergie was manager for 27 years and won 13 titles, thats a rate of 48%
@@ra7671 10/15 years ago anyone one of the top6 sides could have won the premier league year in year out you had teams like Milan inter Dortmund Bayern etc well capable of winning the UCL nowadays the premier league is literally a one horse race for city and in the UCL only really Madrid and maybe maybe Bayern could win it pep is a great manager but kinda has it easy compared to other generations
@@yeahyou3922 Not true, the liverpool sides that have finished second in the league were literally fighting for a quadruple and won the UCL in 2019, they are probably the greatest runners up ever and city beat them to a title twice
@@ra7671 bro I literally stated before klopp era and you’re big Liverpool how you glorifying second place? Embarrassed
A lot of players hate Pep Guardiola
All these people jizzing their pants for Pep need a reality check. Man spends 150mil each season with a bench that already betters most starters for other Top 6 sides. How bad could u possibly be with this current City squad being what is? BS Talk about being adaptable…pep will dash u if u don’t fit his system and just buy another player.
Haaland has been phenomenal this season but funnily enough he has to do this for another 15 years or so to match CR7 & Messi’s numbers so it will be interesting to see how Haaland’s career pans out
Man United segment - Turkish becomes mute.
1:16:28 😂😂
how did tobs get triggered for bantering richarlison,tobs be unbiased pls
Why can't you make statements on this show without ppl getting salty, that man city guy wants ppl to say Pep be better than Alex even tho we watched Alex for 20+ yrs and Pep be like 5-6 yrs
How does that make any sense mathematically?
Pep was literally managing while Fergie was still in the game
Pep has 4 premier league titles sir Alex has 13 it shouldn’t even be a debate atm let’s stop moving the gold post and just look at facts
Are you not gonna count all of pep’s titles? Why we only counting PL ones
@@matissearmani let's not forget peps successes in England have asterisks on them.
@@matissearmani because were talking about the premier league? Last time I checked the league was the hardest trophy to win was you seriously expecting me to included the few league titles he started padded out in Germany? and if I included what he won in Germany this wouldn’t be a debate
@@yelladean2598 Oh yeah I forgot Pep started his managerial career in Germany.
Pep has won 71% of his league titles
Fergie won 48%
Grizz is so cringe … Tobi only one cooking his bs.
Pep destroyed sir Alex twice 🤫🤫
Grizz u gotta let Tobs finish what he is saying. Interrupting him every time 😂😭. He wasn't wrong about Klopp as well
Yes he is, he said "all the time", last time Klopp did it was the Atletico game at the start of COVID, except if you have some more recent example. Also, salty haters always ignore context, Klopp was asked why they struggled after being 3-0 up and the point of his reply is that Spurs didn't open up after that so his team relaxed, not expecting much threat.
@@alexab543 every time teams get a result against Liverpool at Anfield Klopp complains about how they play. It is literally facts
@@alexab543 he literally did it against spurs twice last year when they drew to them both times. Great manager but moans all the time when he doesn’t get his way
And what ..you rival fans will exaggerate, clip and moan about snippets here and there. A world class manager will always be able to antagonise those desperate for validation. Comment about it so we know who you are 🧐😂
@@danieldhesi7151 OK, I remember he talked about Conte's style in the away game, but isn't that what managers are supposed to do, analyse the games? Was anything he said offensive? Also, in that game we were robbed blind by Manchester's Paul Tierney and Chris Kavanagh with the Kane red card not given while Robbo was sent off for much less and the Jota penalty not given, so I imagine he was pretty annoyed by that.
Get big Steve back next season this guy is boring and quiet
Nah we need Buvey to wind up these mans😂
Respect Hughy pal.
Big Steve and daps are proper fans.
@@ErlingEra he doesn’t offer much in the debate most of the show he’s very quiet doesn’t get involved much
@@MrSkh786 right, he’s more reserved and doesn’t make himself look like a knob head like most on the panel😭
Sir alex Ferguson is a checkbook manager? These rivals fans absolutely waffle the most shit. As if Ferguson hasn't taken a Broken down United with aging side and drinking culture to make it the super club in the 90s. And throughout the whole 90s other teams out spent United every single year. And you couldn't get a not well informed fan like Saeed on United matters. GOAT managers like Mourinho calling Sir Alex the boss. He's the GOAT
Pep spent 440 mil in his first 2 season at City. No other manager has even gotten that backing without selling a superstar.
Man utd net spent is 794 since pep come in
Now tell me which supertar the sold ?
@@u1x140 Moyes 1 year 64mil Van gaal 2 years 258mil Mourihno 3 years 363mil Ole 3 years 373mil Pep's 220mil a season still the highest starting budget for any manager ever in the league.
Thing is he want player who suit his system and brutal to get rid of like Yaya but first time seen Haaland making him to go Back3
harry kane is clinical and what he did at tottenham nothing
Did Matisse really say Sir Alex wouldn’t of done what he done outside England?
A lot of people seem to forget what Sir Alex done in Scotland (3 cups) (4league title) (1 league cup) (one super cup) since he left Scotland in 81/82 only rangers and Celtic have gone onto win that league just deep that
Scottish football & English football? Was it really very different? I’m talking about on the continent
@@matissearmani you can’t be praising Pep for doing it in other leagues ie Germany then discrediting Ferguson for what he done in Scotland when no other team has done it since the 80’s as klopp even once said he could of stayed in Germany for guaranteed trophies pep couldn’t do what he done in Scotland undebatable
@@matissearmani let’s not forget it wasn’t long ago you were claiming that Tuchel is up their with pep😂😂Fergie would of eclipsed what pep done in Germany and we all know we’re not going to see a Scottish manager taking over Barcelona or Real Madrid for example
Sir Alex. Best theres been. Pep might catch him. But take 10yrs watch💯👹💥🔒
@@yeahyou3922 ? I hope you realize there is far more difficult to transition between Spain and Germany then it is Scotland and England. 😂🤦🏾♂️
Sorry Tobs…. But Spurs were robbed of a superb comeback by some pathetic refereeing
Don’t mean to nitpick, but saying Alvarez is not WC is a bit absurd. Wasn’t he the 22yr old striker to drop kicked Martinez out of his starting spot in the World Cup bc the manager saw how versatile he was and more importantly, Messi wanted Alvarez up top as a partner? When Messi says he wants Alvarez in the World Cup next to him leading the line all the way through the tournament including the final (and he scored goals throughout the knockout stages too), I think it’s pretty hard to argue he’s not a WC player.
You don't know what world class means.
No, he’s not World class yet lol, come on
@@kunimitsune177 Well explain what world class means then & why Alvarez is not world class
@@brandonG4442 Fair enough. But now you have to defend that statement. Why is he not a world class striker. I’m just curious as i think a lot of people have different ideas about what it actually means.
Also, he was one of the top scorers in S America last season and won South American player of the year. Add that to Messi wanting him to lead the line in the WC, he scored 4-5 goals in it during knockout stage with 2 in semi final.
Little Citeh smacking teams. While your big club struggles for top 4
Tobs is right grizz alwys gets rattled when u say something about klopp!! to rep liverpool doesnt mean agree with everything,grizz a waffler
😂calling others out when spurs have won how many trophies in last few decades?!?!?😂😂😂😂
@@TheMercWithMouth it doesnt matter ,grizz always gets triggered if u say something about klopp and waffles
@@Jeffstrongman12 well you're being subjective and I've spoken facts. Don't worry we know your clubs shite and you're projecting. Stay strong Tariq it may get better.
@@TheMercWithMouth your club? im a liverpool fan bro and I dont always agree with tobs but on that point he was right imo
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Saeed looks slimmer.
Guys before getting into debates we need to distinguish between a manager and a head coach
Sir Alex, Wenger and Ancelotti etc are managers... Klopp Pep Mourinho etc are coaches... The game has evolved and also very few ppl can do a manager role...
Sir Alex took a club that was in the doldrums and made into a not only the most successful club in the world in terms of trophies, he made it the worlds most valuable sports franchise worth billions.
Coaches walk into clubs where the structure for talent id,transfer, finances and other resources are already setup... I remember KDB was signed already while Pellegrini was in charge for pep..
If you say pep has impacted the game and hence the greatest coach... I personally feel Klopp and Jose better cos they have achieved the same or more with lesser resources
The same or more😭, remind me which one of them won 4 prems in 5 seasons. Bouta be 5 prems in just 6 seasons. Put some respect on Pep’s name, he’s the most influential manager of all time.
Talking out of your arse.
Stick to baseball with your fRaNcHiSe nonsense.
tobi is a man child
He completely misunderstood what they we’re talking about
Paul Tierney looks like Iniesta
We need foreign referee in the English league's we have shit refs up and down the English league's
Toby so bias about Barca when it concerns Messi ☝🏽
Yo tap in man tobbs chip up at least the striker u was gassed at the beginning of the season scored a PL this season bargain at 60 mil 🤓
Grizz pissed coz liverpool trophyless season💯😂🤣😂🤣😂💥
In Liverpool having a bad season..they smashed united 7-0😂
Yeah they did. 3 points m8. Lost 2 1 at old traf 3 points. 1-1 head to head. 💯👹
@@TheMercWithMouthwell done for winning the 7up cup 2023
@@LexnZo99 😂😂 brilliant.. rudebwoy reaching with talking about head to head. But 7-0 is historic..hold dat!!
Dont b pissed fam.. u won suming last season. 👏👏💯 7up dont count as shit in prem. 3 points. If done that in a cup comp. Maybe ud have a trophy 2 rudeboy.💯💥👹👹👹
Trent only does what Trent does in Liverpool. He doesn’t get chosen for England. He won’t get chosen for any other team. He’s good… only for Liverpool
Same with Reece James right? I cant name 1 good England game from reece james
@@ra7671 Reece James is injured too much 😂
When pep wins 13 PL titles then we can talk.
Klopp, sour loser, worse winner. Zero Class. Hamstring injury, KARMA 🙏
😂you sound sore af..go enjoy spurs trophy cabinet 😂
I can’t lie saeed is probably the worst man United rep he sucks at defending man United when grizz or someone else comes at United he can’t defend it I swear man it’s annoying
I mean he isn't know as Karen Klopp for nothing.
Nope just those paid in Stella cans call him that.
@@TheMercWithMouth he's not going to sleep with you.
@@dustyrhodes1655 your minds in the gutter..makes sense. Get back to your bud light..how much have your joke team spent 😂
@dakopper77 actually great idea... if you dress up like a women maybe Karen Klopp will clap your cheeks.
Bud light??? No one drinks that shit over here
Stick to baseball
Yet another moment where Grizz doesn't listen and then has a serious issue with what's being said, Tobs was right about Klopp
Tobs only one talking facts on pep and Fergie