That's always been what you get when you extend combos to a silly degree. It's not about the damage at that point, it's about having fun and doing something cool. Swag combos! If scaling didn't work like it does, there would be TODs everywhere.
@@Albertmars32 his thoughts are Gief is bottom tier still. He's debating going Modern because the regular version is so bad, and he'll probably leave Gief as his main if they keep giving him "buffs". Most those buffs didn't do anything realistic to help him in fights, his lariat to level 3 super combo damage outputs not viable enough to replace just using level 2 and often times does a good deal less damage than just doing it solo.
Gief’s level one super has more range now. Because the Hitbox is bigger he can now use this anti air grab more effectively and in more combo routes than before. OD Lariat also has extended range which allows for more hits prior to canceling into it. It can also be cancelled into his level 3
With that you need to cancel into ex lariat at the highest point of hellstab, then you gotta do lvl1 as early as possible, and in some situations they'll also need to be crouching like in the clip shown
gief deserves more love in that sense he is so bad even after patches and when u win as gief u just straight out play ur opponent , playing as a bad character btw do u stream?
Grapplers in fighting games need to be bad cause sometimes you'll steamroll people, sometimes you will get steamrolled. However if gief had like an ex dp, good conversions and oki after his spd then he'd just either steamroll or not get steamrolled, which is very bad for the game. I know it sucks sometimes to play gief but its still fun
Many Zangief players are some of the worst players out there. The game allows them to get by without learning the basics. One or two hits, and they win without knowing why. All strength…NO skill.
Why buff Gief combos? He was already incredibly threatening with very high damaging grabs and buttons. Plus he has a plethora of moves to deal with most situations, don't forget the universal tools the game provides. Completely unnecessary imo, just takes away from the indiviuality of the character.
I don't see why not, gief player been dying with the previous lv1 that has shitty hit box, they gives him so that ex lariat into lv3 is perfectly reasonable, because why would others 2 grappler could cancel into their lv3 but not gief All you said above is just skill issue because you're just sad that a match-up you dislike get buffed, when instead gief actually need a buff
@@tonii557 I don't even dislike the match-up lol, on the contrary, it's when I play grapplers that I enjoy the limitations that come with them, makes the game more engaging. Problem with modern players is that they want to be rewarded without actually doing something difficult, just lazy imo.
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the scaling on that last combo was tragic, c'mon capcom
200 damage borscht dynamite 😨
😂😂man that scaling was h-o-r-r-i-d
The Grappler curse. None can escape 😢
That's always been what you get when you extend combos to a silly degree. It's not about the damage at that point, it's about having fun and doing something cool. Swag combos! If scaling didn't work like it does, there would be TODs everywhere.
@@GeeMannn Unless you're from K.O.F 😁
They managed to make Gief more spicy 🔥🔥🔥
Zangief is sick in this game
I'm really glad that he gets some love
The first and third combos were already doable pre-patch, but the rest are definitely new, cool stuff!
Oh fr? I coulda sworn they weren't possible
@@Killerex100they were doable but i think the lvl 1 could whiff alot
@@splintergp yeah I remember trying the sideswitch one and it never working so ig it was just mad tight or character specific
@@splintergpIght, so it's more consistent
I hope he doesn't get nerfed back to the ground- Please I'm his loyal fan..
Now I'm supremely disappointed that SnakeEyeZ didn't get invited to the Red Bull Kumite New York!
Speaking about snakez what are his thoughts on new gief? I havent watch his stream in a while
@@Albertmars32 his thoughts are Gief is bottom tier still. He's debating going Modern because the regular version is so bad, and he'll probably leave Gief as his main if they keep giving him "buffs". Most those buffs didn't do anything realistic to help him in fights, his lariat to level 3 super combo damage outputs not viable enough to replace just using level 2 and often times does a good deal less damage than just doing it solo.
@@Albertmars32 Theres honestly wayyy to much he's said to type it out lol
I love how we’ve got all these cool character based combos and up until recently Zangief’s best option has still been ‘grab’
Thanks for explaining these new buffs to those of us who don’t play SF6
Gief’s level one super has more range now. Because the Hitbox is bigger he can now use this anti air grab more effectively and in more combo routes than before. OD Lariat also has extended range which allows for more hits prior to canceling into it. It can also be cancelled into his level 3
Aside from first combo that others already pointed out to you, the PC overhead combo was also already possible before. Snake Eyez did it often, IIRC.
This was the best buff for Zangief
that ending combo is the best waste of damage ive ever seen, honestly sick af
DI>body Splash>level 1 is not new, only easier
Yeah ik someone already left a comment on that
I was so pissed when 0:50 didn't work pre patch, good to know its there now!
You can cancel the first hit of lariat into My loyal fans
I’m still shocked they didn’t give his lariat anti air from behind
Awesome tutorial, thank you. The text in black is really hard to read tho.
Is it me or does that first combo seem like it's not worth the resources used for it.
Are you kidding me the last one
What they should do is give him 1-2 more non grab specials with OD version that way his combos has real damage.
If only the buff to Lv.1 hitbox was a tad bit better. Still can't combo into it after Drive Rush S.HK.
Oh that is Beautiful 💪
Just wish he did all of that for less meter
I wish they just would patch fix lariat and make it stop eating meter
It only does for the OD version
I seem to be unable to get the SA2, f+HP XX SA1 to work properly (the SA1 seems to miss for me). Any tips?
You gotta do the headbutt earlier in order for the lvl1 to connect, if it helps try to match it up with how it's done in the vid
The first one was possible before
Lol ik like 2 other people have told me this in the comments already
@@Killerex100 now you know it again :D
What is the trick to landing Ex Lar into Lvl 1? Like is there a specific from you need to input it or do I just mash?
With that you need to cancel into ex lariat at the highest point of hellstab, then you gotta do lvl1 as early as possible, and in some situations they'll also need to be crouching like in the clip shown
"access to easy 60% combo midscreen"
*proceeds to casual cancel the first hit of OD Lariat into a 720 SA3*
"easy"
It's easy
It's actually not that hard. I almost never miss it, and I drop shit all the time.
@@LakeEarth I have a 20% chance of doing the motion fast enough in training, let alone during a match
gief deserves more love
in that sense he is so bad even after patches
and when u win as gief u just straight out play ur opponent , playing as a bad character
btw do u stream?
Nah I don't stream
Grapplers in fighting games need to be bad cause sometimes you'll steamroll people, sometimes you will get steamrolled. However if gief had like an ex dp, good conversions and oki after his spd then he'd just either steamroll or not get steamrolled, which is very bad for the game. I know it sucks sometimes to play gief but its still fun
No you don’t outplay your opponent if you’re M Zangief 😂😂
no matter how good his combo become , he have no normal to get in,
his slap->slap->slap is decent normal and that down -> upper finger move.
Am I seeing things or Zangief has become the most notorious character in SF6?
All this... but wont fix level 2 to catch jump ins?! Madness. And lariat (being the only one he has) STILL cant catch cross-ups? ....feck dat
Cool 😎😊
Many Zangief players are some of the worst players out there. The game allows them to get by without learning the basics. One or two hits, and they win without knowing why. All strength…NO skill.
try winning a tourney as gief!
Why buff Gief combos? He was already incredibly threatening with very high damaging grabs and buttons. Plus he has a plethora of moves to deal with most situations, don't forget the universal tools the game provides. Completely unnecessary imo, just takes away from the indiviuality of the character.
Cope
I don't see why not, gief player been dying with the previous lv1 that has shitty hit box, they gives him so that ex lariat into lv3 is perfectly reasonable, because why would others 2 grappler could cancel into their lv3 but not gief
All you said above is just skill issue because you're just sad that a match-up you dislike get buffed, when instead gief actually need a buff
@@tonii557 I don't even dislike the match-up lol, on the contrary, it's when I play grapplers that I enjoy the limitations that come with them, makes the game more engaging. Problem with modern players is that they want to be rewarded without actually doing something difficult, just lazy imo.