I really like your explanations which are most visible on the Biorower. Perhaps an entire and exclusive session on the biorower would be even clearer. I have already progressed a lot thanks to the biorower where the sensations of skiff seem to me fuller and better controllable. Thanks a lot Aram.
Many Many hanks Aram realy appreciate this coaching i will take all on board and make the adjustments ,love the foils and for sure are helping me get a really good catch
Hi Sean, hold the knees down, rockover then keep you chin and chest up as you come to the catch, you appear to drop your chin which creates less strong position at the catch (as Aram sadi). Finally with looser grip, relaxed tension in your arma and shoulders let your hands drift out over the gunnel another 1 to 2 cm. By sitting taller in the boat, with a more relaxed upper body you will acheive greater lenght and a faster boat. I agree with everything else Aram said. cheers from OZ
With oars 292/90 and a quick and dirty catch this works wonders for me (70,5 kg). Part of it is more time driving relative to time for whole rowing cycle, I think. And it lets me distribute the load on more muscle groups - having trained my up-the-slide muscles 'separately'.
Just my two cents and I could be wrong. But it looks like he is finishing the drive with emphasis of the heals connecting to the foot board. I would change the emphasis on pressing the balls of the feet connecting to the foot board at the very end of the drive. This should help relax the posterior chain and stretch the anterior chain to pre-activate the muscles for a smooth hip hinge. Even if he lacks the ankle flexibility to connect the balls of the feet to the foot board, just making the attempt may help. A heel connection may make for a stronger quad drive but it makes it difficult to hinge the hips.
I know this is two years later and no one may see this for a long time, but does this second acceleration during the recovery apply to a sweeping 8 boat as well? If everyone in the 8 does this technique correctly and in time, it should work the same as this single boat as well, right?
'The essence of sculling is to resolve how much you weigh' Anyone that goes sculling has a geophysical obligation to scull in 4 phases.2 in the drive and 2 in the recovery. The problems in the video are caused by the amount of asymmetry in the blade profile,and the fact that the asymetric blades are prone to diving at the catch.When the asymetric blade is in use the sculler has to set the gates higher to function at catch and finish.The more increase in the aggregate, the more they have to lift at the catch which increases dive, and vice versa at the finnish, the more sky.The stroke is relatively cranked.The timing meridian is compromised. Sculling needs to revise the blade face profile to a hybrid. The blade needs to be the best facets in the best proportions from asymetric blades and symetric blades combined.This will alleviate the very real compromise, inherent when rigging these asymetric implements. If the fellow in the video used a symetrical or hybrid blade, the rigging platform would adjust the aggregate, and the rig would open and close to his advantage. The slide deck height relationship needs to be' adjustable' in increments of 1,2,5 and 10 mm.This implementation will provide oarsmen an adjustment, to improve combinations and 'setup' for crew boats,depending on their individual anatomical proportions...
I heard so many people saying that "you can pull the boat underneath yourself towards the finish line" and it really upset me.. When you finish to push you have a inertia x equal to the inertia of your boat, and because of drag the boat and you will slow down to the catch and you can't do anything to make your boat and you to go faster at this moment. When a coach says you that by pulling the boat underneath you will go faster... but what's happening is your boat will go faster for a second, yes, but you will also lose your inertia and stop your boat at the catch and by going faster your boat will make more drag to the water... 🤦♂️ So basically you go slower !! AAARRRRGGG
I guess you have kind of a point there. I think, the slower you recover/roll forward the more time you have for a proper catch. Gets more complicated with higher stroke rates because you have much more momentum and movement speed. On the other hand you could roll forward as fast as you like if you can still compensate with a quick and smooth catch and force transition. That in my opinion is one of the hardest things in rowing technique: moving as quick as possible, with as much momentum as possible, while disturbing the boat as less as possible, especially at the catch. I once read an article of the physics aspects of boat movement an acceleration. It was stated that you need less energy to keep a boat at a given speed if the variance of the speed is as small as possible. If you have more acceleration in one part, you will have more deceleration in another part and even if your average speed would be the same you will overall need more energy to maintain that speed. So based on that it would be beneficial to try recovering/roll forward without accelerating the boot very much. At least, where energy consumption is of relevance. At shorter distances the maximal output of speed would be more beneficial in the end no matter what power you need therefore, given you have that power ;) What are your thought?
@@alias_not_needed In theory maybe your right, in practice no matter how quick your catch is, faster your recover is, slower you are compared to the water, so you will need more energy to accelerate yourself and your boat on the next stroke. But well I understand better what you get by trying thank you. And if Kleshnev agreed..
@@NickSmith-hv9zi I have sensor on my boat that shows that my boat re-accelerates a bit a bit at the end of my stroke then stabilize then decelerates before the catch went you start pushing against your momentum to slow down. Basically at the end of the stroke your momentum and the momentum of the boat are equal. So each force applied that is stronger than the force of the boat’s drag make the boat accelerate or slow down. I didn’t miss any physics classes What I tried to explain in the last comment is a bit confusing when I read it back 😅 but with some sympathy you can get it I think..
I really like your explanations which are most visible on the Biorower. Perhaps an entire and exclusive session on the biorower would be even clearer. I have already progressed a lot thanks to the biorower where the sensations of skiff seem to me fuller and better controllable. Thanks a lot Aram.
Task fulfilled sir ;)
That’s a brilliant video.
Many Many hanks Aram realy appreciate this coaching
i will take all on board and make the adjustments ,love the foils and for sure are helping me get a really good catch
Hi Sean, hold the knees down, rockover then keep you chin and chest up as you come to the catch, you appear to drop your chin which creates less strong position at the catch (as Aram sadi). Finally with looser grip, relaxed tension in your arma and shoulders let your hands drift out over the gunnel another 1 to 2 cm. By sitting taller in the boat, with a more relaxed upper body you will acheive greater lenght and a faster boat. I agree with everything else Aram said. cheers from OZ
@@quadscull4x appreciate the comments many thanks
You are very welcome
Brilliant!!
With oars 292/90 and a quick and dirty catch this works wonders for me (70,5 kg). Part of it is more time driving relative to time for whole rowing cycle, I think. And it lets me distribute the load on more muscle groups - having trained my up-the-slide muscles 'separately'.
Nice again. But I think in the biorower parts the girl should longer wait with bending /loosing her knees during the recover😉
Yeah I agree
Just my two cents and I could be wrong. But it looks like he is finishing the drive with emphasis of the heals connecting to the foot board. I would change the emphasis on pressing the balls of the feet connecting to the foot board at the very end of the drive. This should help relax the posterior chain and stretch the anterior chain to pre-activate the muscles for a smooth hip hinge. Even if he lacks the ankle flexibility to connect the balls of the feet to the foot board, just making the attempt may help. A heel connection may make for a stronger quad drive but it makes it difficult to hinge the hips.
Good point Andy!
Aram you always show videos on flat or just slightly bouncy water can you show some from the tideway with white horses that's how to learn to scull
Happy to do so. Have to look for footage
I know this is two years later and no one may see this for a long time, but does this second acceleration during the recovery apply to a sweeping 8 boat as well? If everyone in the 8 does this technique correctly and in time, it should work the same as this single boat as well, right?
Yes. Most definitely. I have tried this a few times successfully
Thank you for the quick response and information
'The essence of sculling is to resolve how much you weigh'
Anyone that goes sculling has a geophysical obligation to scull in 4 phases.2 in the drive and 2 in the recovery.
The problems in the video are caused by the amount of asymmetry in the blade profile,and the fact that the asymetric blades are prone to diving at the catch.When the asymetric blade is in use the sculler has to set the gates higher to function at catch and finish.The more increase in the aggregate, the more they have to lift at the catch which increases dive, and vice versa at the finnish, the more sky.The stroke is relatively cranked.The timing meridian is compromised.
Sculling needs to revise the blade face profile to a hybrid. The blade needs to be the best facets in the best proportions from asymetric blades and symetric blades combined.This will alleviate the very real compromise, inherent when rigging these asymetric implements.
If the fellow in the video used a symetrical or hybrid blade, the rigging platform would adjust the aggregate, and the rig would open and close to his advantage.
The slide deck height relationship needs to be' adjustable' in increments of 1,2,5 and 10 mm.This implementation will provide oarsmen an adjustment, to improve combinations and 'setup' for crew boats,depending on their individual anatomical proportions...
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I heard so many people saying that "you can pull the boat underneath yourself towards the finish line" and it really upset me.. When you finish to push you have a inertia x equal to the inertia of your boat, and because of drag the boat and you will slow down to the catch and you can't do anything to make your boat and you to go faster at this moment. When a coach says you that by pulling the boat underneath you will go faster... but what's happening is your boat will go faster for a second, yes, but you will also lose your inertia and stop your boat at the catch and by going faster your boat will make more drag to the water... 🤦♂️ So basically you go slower !! AAARRRRGGG
I guess you have kind of a point there. I think, the slower you recover/roll forward the more time you have for a proper catch. Gets more complicated with higher stroke rates because you have much more momentum and movement speed. On the other hand you could roll forward as fast as you like if you can still compensate with a quick and smooth catch and force transition. That in my opinion is one of the hardest things in rowing technique: moving as quick as possible, with as much momentum as possible, while disturbing the boat as less as possible, especially at the catch.
I once read an article of the physics aspects of boat movement an acceleration. It was stated that you need less energy to keep a boat at a given speed if the variance of the speed is as small as possible. If you have more acceleration in one part, you will have more deceleration in another part and even if your average speed would be the same you will overall need more energy to maintain that speed. So based on that it would be beneficial to try recovering/roll forward without accelerating the boot very much. At least, where energy consumption is of relevance. At shorter distances the maximal output of speed would be more beneficial in the end no matter what power you need therefore, given you have that power ;)
What are your thought?
First of all, even Kleshnev supports this concept, and secondly, the "intention" alone helps to increase the boat speed massively. Try it out.
@@alias_not_needed In theory maybe your right, in practice no matter how quick your catch is, faster your recover is, slower you are compared to the water, so you will need more energy to accelerate yourself and your boat on the next stroke. But well I understand better what you get by trying thank you. And if Kleshnev agreed..
@@NickSmith-hv9zi I have sensor on my boat that shows that my boat re-accelerates a bit a bit at the end of my stroke then stabilize then decelerates before the catch went you start pushing against your momentum to slow down.
Basically at the end of the stroke your momentum and the momentum of the boat are equal. So each force applied that is stronger than the force of the boat’s drag make the boat accelerate or slow down. I didn’t miss any physics classes
What I tried to explain in the last comment is a bit confusing when I read it back 😅 but with some sympathy you can get it I think..