Reply with a memote! ⬇📀🎹📀 22:14 Most memote comments are being filtered to the bottom, YT thinks they're spam. Try putting memotes in a normal comment with words n stuff for better results, or scroll down and like/reply to other people's memotes.
Is it just me or all the science and engineering channel are getting far less views these past days? Like, is it a consequences of RUclips policies or people are getting less interested?
i disliked the video and will not share, i am immune to viruses. meanwhile i am spreading the virus of my channel on this comment, so you can say that my virus just infected yours.
I remember having a lecture about this in my evolution course several years ago, very thought provoking connection between biology, evolution, and the internet
Probably one of the most counterintuitive properties of memes is how pairs of memes that encourage negative emotions toward the other are actually highly cooperative with each other. While they're effectively mutually exclusive in that it's hard to truly accept both at once, the memes themselves basically rely on each other to spur the emotions that allow themselves to spread. As an example, while people of one political party may heavily disagree with the people and decisions of the opposing party, the parties themselves _as memes_ _rely_ on each other in order to survive and maintain a stable number of people who subscribe to each side. Nobody would care about their own party if there was no opposition. To quote CGP Grey's video on the topic: "One is like a field of flowers and the other a flock of butterflies."
Also worth reading, "Sort By Controversial" (it is fiction) > We trained a network to predict upvotes of Reddit posts based on their titles. Any predictive network doubles as a generative network. If you teach a neural net to recognize dogs, you can run it in reverse to get dog pictures. If you train a network to predict Reddit upvotes, you can run it in reverse to generate titles it predicts will be highly upvoted. We tried this and it was pretty funny. I don’t remember the exact wording, but for /r/politics it was something like “Donald Trump is no longer the president. All transgender people are the president.” For r/technology it was about Elon Musk saving Net Neutrality. You can also generate titles that will get maximum downvotes, but this is boring: it will just say things that sound like spam about penis pills. > Reddit has a feature where you can sort posts by controversial. You can see the algorithm here, but tl;dr it multiplies magnitude of total votes (upvotes + downvotes) by balance (upvote:downvote ratio or vice versa, whichever is smaller) to highlight posts that provoke disagreement. Controversy sells, so we trained our network to predict this too. > The Japanese tested their bioweapons on Chinese prisoners. The Tuskegee Institute tested syphilis on African-Americans. We were either nicer or dumber than they were, because we tested Shiri’s Scissor on ourselves. We had a private internal subreddit where we discussed company business, because Brad wanted all of us to get familiar with the platform. Shiri’s problem was that she’d been testing the controversy-network on our subreddit, and it would just spit out vacuously true or vacuously false statements. No controversy, no room for disagreement. > The statement we were looking at that day was about a design choice in our code. I won’t tell you the specifics, but imagine you took every bad and wrong decision decision in the world, hard-coded them in the ugliest possible way, and then handed it to the end user with a big middle finger. Shiri’s Scissor spit out, as maximally controversial, the statement that we should design our product that way. We’d spent ten minutes arguing about exactly where the bug was, when Shiri said something about how she didn’t understand why the program was generating obviously true statements. > Shiri’s English wasn’t great, so I thought this was a communication problem. I corrected her. The program was spitting out obviously false statements. She stuck to her guns. I still thought she was confused. I walked her through the meanings of the English words “true” and “false”. She looked offended. I tried to confirm. She thought this abysmal programming decision, this plan of combining every bad design technique together and making it impossible to ever fix, was the right way to build our codebase? She said it was. Worse, she was confused I didn’t think so. She thought this was more or less what we were already doing; it wasn’t. She thought that moving away from this would take a total rewrite and make the code much worse. > Brad was our founder. Don’t trust the newspapers - not every tech entrepreneur is a greedy antisocial philistine. But everyone in advertising is. Brad definitely was. He was an abrasive amoral son of a bitch. But he was good at charming investors, and he could code, which is more than some bosses. He looked pissed to have the whole coding team come into his office unannounced, but he heard us out. (...) This part of the story ends at 8 PM with Brad firing David and Shiri for a combination of gross incompetence, gross insubordination, and being terrible human beings. (...) That was 8 PM. We’d been standing in Brad’s office fighting for five hours. At 8:01, after David and Shiri had stormed out, we all looked at each other and thought - holy shit, the controversial filter works. > I want to repeat that. At no time in our five hours of arguing did this occur to us. We were too focused on the issue at hand, the Scissor statement itself. We didn’t have the perspective to step back and think about how all this controversy came from a statement designed to be maximally controversial. But at 8:01, when the argument was over and we had won, we stepped back and thought - holy shit. -------------------- > If you just read a Scissor statement off a list, it’s harmless. It just seems like a trivially true or trivially false thing. It doesn’t activate until you start discussing it with somebody. At first you just think they’re an imbecile. Then they call you an imbecile, and you want to defend yourself. Crescit eundo. You notice all the little ways they’re lying to you and themselves and their audience every time they open their mouth to defend their imbecilic opinion. Then you notice how all the lies are connected, that in order to keep getting the little things like the Scissor statement wrong, they have to drag in everything else. > Eventually even that doesn’t work, they’ve just got to make everybody hate you so that nobody will even listen to your argument no matter how obviously true it is. Finally, they don’t care about the Scissor statement anymore. They’ve just dug themselves so deep basing their whole existence around hating you and wanting you to fail that they can’t walk it back. You’ve got to prove them wrong, not because you care about the Scissor statement either, but because otherwise they’ll do anything to poison people against you, make it impossible for them to even understand the argument for why you deserve to exist. You know this is true. > Your mind becomes a constant loop of arguments you can use to defend yourself, and rehearsals of arguments for why their attacks are cruel and unfair, and the one burning question: how can you thwart them? How can you convince people not to listen to them, before they find those people and exploit their biases and turn them against you? How can you combat the superficial arguments they’re deploying, before otherwise good people get convinced, so convinced their mind will be made up and they can never be unconvinced again? How can you keep yourself safe? (...) > I know I should be talking about how we all need to unite against whatever shadowy manipulators keep throwing Scissor statements at us. I want to talk about how we need to cultivate radical compassion and charity as the only defense against such abominations. I want to give an Obamaesque speech about how the ties that bring us together are stronger than the forces tearing us apart. But I can’t. (...)I thought about the third-highest-ranked Scissor statement in enough detail to let it trigger. To even begin to question whether it might be true is so sick, so perverse, so hateful and disgusting, that Idi Amin would flush with shame to even contemplate it. And if the Scissor’s right then half of you would be gung ho in support. > You guys, who haven’t heard a really bad Scissor statement yet and don’t know what it’s like - it’s easy for you to say “don’t let it manipulate you” or “we need a hard and fast policy of not letting ourselves fight over Scissor statements”. But how do you know you’re not in the wrong? How do you know there’s not an issue out there where, if you knew it, you would agree it would be better to just nuke the world and let us start over again from the sewer mutants, rather than let the sort of people who would support it continue to pollute the world with their presence? > How do you know that you’re not like the schoolkid who superciliously says “Nothing is bad enough to deserve a swear word” when the worst that’s ever happened to her is dropping her lollipop in the dirt. If that schoolkid gets kidnapped and tortured, does she change her mind? If she can’t describe the torture to her schoolmates, but just says “a really bad thing happened to me”, and they still insist nothing could be bad enough to justify using swear words, who do you side with? Then why are you still thinking I’m “damaged” when I tell you I’ve seen the Scissor statement, and charity and compassion and unity can f--- off and die? Some last remnant of outside-view morality keeps me from writing the whole list here and letting you all exterminate yourselves. Some remnant of how I would have thought about these things a month ago holds me back. So listen: > Delete Facebook. Delete Twitter. Throw away your cell phone. Unsubscribe from the newspaper. Tell your friends and relatives not to discuss politics or society. If they slip up, break off all contact. Then, buy canned food. Stockpile water. Learn to shoot a gun. If you can afford a bunker, get a bunker. Because one day, whoever keeps feeding us Scissor statements is going to release one of the bad ones.
I have never experienced weirder timing than with this video. I've been thinking about things similar to this a lot in the last few days, and had a long conversation exactly about this before getting home. Seeing that this video was posted during when I was going on a walk and talking to my friend about this feels eerie
Your RUclips channel is incredibly cool. I have had ideas about this subject and similar ones on your channel for a while now. I even found your channel because I was considering using your name for a RUclips channel name, "emergent", and I was seeing if the name was taken. I feel like these ideas are so insightful. They help us explain and understand the origin and spread of many things that influence our lives. They encourage us to be more introspective, self-critical, and insightful into the nature of all pseudo-living things. Excellent work.
No because the drunken sailor song was already stuck in my head before this video WAY HAY UP SHE RISES WAY HAY UP SHE RISES WAY HAY UP SHE RISES EARLY IN THE MORNING 🎶
It's funny because I have my room mate in here watching and she's never heard of your channel or has anything like this come up on her algorithm. Always gotta be one...
9:57 I think we need to look at this the same way we would genetics, much like a genome you can also have memome let's say in this instance memes are individual peices of an entire memetic structure. So one meme in this memome is baking , another is Shrek shaped food, but in this case it's an entire memetic structure made up of several individual memes.They remind me a lot of language models used by neural networks.
05:53 AFAIK, there is no reason that more complexity is a necessary direction, if it replicates better but it's simpler, then it outcompetes more complex replicators.
I do feel like the concept of “memes” itself is a really excellently demonstrated example of “in extinction it lives on”. Like, the concept of “internet memes” clearly have overwritten the original meaning, and now you often need to use “genetical memes” or “memetical genes” to describe it. Yet within death, it’s able to achieve a kind of spreading that Richard Dawkins probably never thought possible. It’s still a somewhat niche idea, but I feel like at least 10% or 5% of the whole world’s population understands this “ideas as a life form” concept to some degree. Yeah, it all feels really Death Stranding. As in, “It’s not a tragedy, extinction is not the end, it’s an opportunity for a new beginning”.
10:20 Talking about “unfalsifiable”, I do think this is one aspect that makes the whole thing a bit… not science? As in, it’s starting to be a bit “pseudoscientific”. However, I do really wish we as a society can invent a new word for this. Like, non scientific mostly philosophical thinking systems that aren’t trying to pretend to be science. I feel like with the recent development in AI research and society’s deeper understandings of those types of complex questions (e.g. systems theory, emergency theory, intelligence rising from chaos theory, etc), in the future we will need to start embracing those “pseudo scientific” non-science fields. Anyway, it’s just something that tilted me a bit, when I tried looking up “Yin Yang” and Wikipedia described it as “a pseudo science”. Like, the statement isn’t wrong, but the study is fundamentally about “let’s do Darwinism without doing science!” As in, dividing attributes into Yin and Yang, with Yang being the urge for change to happen, and Yin being the urge to deny change. In Darwinism terms, Yin is the aspects that maintains the copy to be the same, while Yang encourages mutation and changes to happen. Thus, without Yin, a system cannot keep maintaining itself and will quickly collapse. Yet without Yang, the system cannot adapt to any environmental changes, thus cannot be considered even alive.
I'd argue that memes are just a form of information and they are the actual subjects of all kinds of evolution, but they cannot self-replicate, like you say. Information must be instantiated in physical form in order to exist, and if that physical form can replicate, then the information will spread. The physical form need not be a self-contained sequence of data like DNA, or an ion cascade in a brain, but if there is physical infrastructure to support it, may even be distributed globally. The memes that were initially instantiated as DNA found it useful to build the physical infrastructure of the brain, and new memes were instantiated in this new environment which have now outpaced genetic evolution entirely. These new memes also find it useful to build technology which can carry information, another new environment where new memes are being born and which may one day outpace our cultural evolution.
8:00 To add onto this, if we ignore the human conscious, it can then be said that it’s not the human that is remixing the memes. It’s the memes gaining control to the local infrastructure (like the brain itself), and commands processing power to obtain useful parts from other local memes, breeding a more powerful next generation. In a way, I think memes can also experience some degree of “Darwinism revolution” within a single human brain. As in, an artist thinking about a few different potential paths that stem from an idea, and deciding one path to pursuit and make the meme. In a way, this is the meme that survived the Darwinism that happened locally.
I think some genes are reactive to memes , people who have vulnerability have more reactive to memes to hide their vulnerability , they use memes as a means to spread the vulnerability as it's normal.
I'm just here to say I found this channel because one of your videos was linked off of 3Blue1Brown's channel and I decided to subscribe. I found 3Blue1Brown's channel because they did a video about Wordle and I was impressed with their approach towards the topic and subscribed to their channel. I found that video because I was playing Wordle and a friend of mine on Facebook posted the video to their feed and I saw it. I started playing Wordle because other people I knew were playing Wordle and I decided it was fun and began to play it for a time until I eventually got bored. I think that gets us to the root level of this meme, for me at least.
The more I know something about this world, the more I realize that everything just looks like everything. In every tiny thing you can see everything, and in everything you see tiny separate things. I am everything..
i notice its incredbly easy to start trends, i cant even remember everything but remember i was first to use :X emoji, or a "YW" instead "NP" and meany others dont even remember not that i was maby THE FIRST but really feels like it.
Reply with a memote! ⬇📀🎹📀
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Most memote comments are being filtered to the bottom, YT thinks they're spam. Try putting memotes in a normal comment with words n stuff for better results, or scroll down and like/reply to other people's memotes.
Is it just me or all the science and engineering channel are getting far less views these past days? Like, is it a consequences of RUclips policies or people are getting less interested?
I thought my PC had a virus for a moment when I saw the font you used for the title.
This Video isnt doing so well😢
i disliked the video and will not share, i am immune to viruses. meanwhile i am spreading the virus of my channel on this comment, so you can say that my virus just infected yours.
@@alex65432 it's picking up a lil bit
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Always has been always* has been my favorite meme. *since me knowing it
Haha, i was about the write the same comment before I found yours xD
Memes, the DNA of the soul
More like genes but yea
@@LaurinkoSattumaaUh, it's a quote from metal gear.. 😂
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All praise the meme video. This needs more views than it has
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@@MrEdioss I would say the same for you 🤯
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I remember having a lecture about this in my evolution course several years ago, very thought provoking connection between biology, evolution, and the internet
Dancing to your tune, sir.
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I give thanks to the internet gods for finally bringing the true definition of meme to light!
I recommend "I Have a Super USB Drive". Goes into great detail of "memes"
@@skidrift5134 thanks friend, that looks cool I will give it a go!
Did you mean meme gods?
Probably one of the most counterintuitive properties of memes is how pairs of memes that encourage negative emotions toward the other are actually highly cooperative with each other. While they're effectively mutually exclusive in that it's hard to truly accept both at once, the memes themselves basically rely on each other to spur the emotions that allow themselves to spread.
As an example, while people of one political party may heavily disagree with the people and decisions of the opposing party, the parties themselves _as memes_ _rely_ on each other in order to survive and maintain a stable number of people who subscribe to each side. Nobody would care about their own party if there was no opposition.
To quote CGP Grey's video on the topic: "One is like a field of flowers and the other a flock of butterflies."
Also worth reading, "Sort By Controversial" (it is fiction)
> We trained a network to predict upvotes of Reddit posts based on their titles. Any predictive network doubles as a generative network. If you teach a neural net to recognize dogs, you can run it in reverse to get dog pictures. If you train a network to predict Reddit upvotes, you can run it in reverse to generate titles it predicts will be highly upvoted. We tried this and it was pretty funny. I don’t remember the exact wording, but for /r/politics it was something like “Donald Trump is no longer the president. All transgender people are the president.” For r/technology it was about Elon Musk saving Net Neutrality. You can also generate titles that will get maximum downvotes, but this is boring: it will just say things that sound like spam about penis pills.
> Reddit has a feature where you can sort posts by controversial. You can see the algorithm here, but tl;dr it multiplies magnitude of total votes (upvotes + downvotes) by balance (upvote:downvote ratio or vice versa, whichever is smaller) to highlight posts that provoke disagreement. Controversy sells, so we trained our network to predict this too.
> The Japanese tested their bioweapons on Chinese prisoners. The Tuskegee Institute tested syphilis on African-Americans. We were either nicer or dumber than they were, because we tested Shiri’s Scissor on ourselves. We had a private internal subreddit where we discussed company business, because Brad wanted all of us to get familiar with the platform. Shiri’s problem was that she’d been testing the controversy-network on our subreddit, and it would just spit out vacuously true or vacuously false statements. No controversy, no room for disagreement.
> The statement we were looking at that day was about a design choice in our code. I won’t tell you the specifics, but imagine you took every bad and wrong decision decision in the world, hard-coded them in the ugliest possible way, and then handed it to the end user with a big middle finger. Shiri’s Scissor spit out, as maximally controversial, the statement that we should design our product that way. We’d spent ten minutes arguing about exactly where the bug was, when Shiri said something about how she didn’t understand why the program was generating obviously true statements.
> Shiri’s English wasn’t great, so I thought this was a communication problem. I corrected her. The program was spitting out obviously false statements. She stuck to her guns. I still thought she was confused. I walked her through the meanings of the English words “true” and “false”. She looked offended. I tried to confirm. She thought this abysmal programming decision, this plan of combining every bad design technique together and making it impossible to ever fix, was the right way to build our codebase? She said it was. Worse, she was confused I didn’t think so. She thought this was more or less what we were already doing; it wasn’t. She thought that moving away from this would take a total rewrite and make the code much worse.
> Brad was our founder. Don’t trust the newspapers - not every tech entrepreneur is a greedy antisocial philistine. But everyone in advertising is. Brad definitely was. He was an abrasive amoral son of a bitch. But he was good at charming investors, and he could code, which is more than some bosses. He looked pissed to have the whole coding team come into his office unannounced, but he heard us out. (...) This part of the story ends at 8 PM with Brad firing David and Shiri for a combination of gross incompetence, gross insubordination, and being terrible human beings. (...) That was 8 PM. We’d been standing in Brad’s office fighting for five hours. At 8:01, after David and Shiri had stormed out, we all looked at each other and thought - holy shit, the controversial filter works.
> I want to repeat that. At no time in our five hours of arguing did this occur to us. We were too focused on the issue at hand, the Scissor statement itself. We didn’t have the perspective to step back and think about how all this controversy came from a statement designed to be maximally controversial. But at 8:01, when the argument was over and we had won, we stepped back and thought - holy shit.
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> If you just read a Scissor statement off a list, it’s harmless. It just seems like a trivially true or trivially false thing. It doesn’t activate until you start discussing it with somebody. At first you just think they’re an imbecile. Then they call you an imbecile, and you want to defend yourself. Crescit eundo. You notice all the little ways they’re lying to you and themselves and their audience every time they open their mouth to defend their imbecilic opinion. Then you notice how all the lies are connected, that in order to keep getting the little things like the Scissor statement wrong, they have to drag in everything else.
> Eventually even that doesn’t work, they’ve just got to make everybody hate you so that nobody will even listen to your argument no matter how obviously true it is. Finally, they don’t care about the Scissor statement anymore. They’ve just dug themselves so deep basing their whole existence around hating you and wanting you to fail that they can’t walk it back. You’ve got to prove them wrong, not because you care about the Scissor statement either, but because otherwise they’ll do anything to poison people against you, make it impossible for them to even understand the argument for why you deserve to exist. You know this is true.
> Your mind becomes a constant loop of arguments you can use to defend yourself, and rehearsals of arguments for why their attacks are cruel and unfair, and the one burning question: how can you thwart them? How can you convince people not to listen to them, before they find those people and exploit their biases and turn them against you? How can you combat the superficial arguments they’re deploying, before otherwise good people get convinced, so convinced their mind will be made up and they can never be unconvinced again? How can you keep yourself safe?
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> I know I should be talking about how we all need to unite against whatever shadowy manipulators keep throwing Scissor statements at us. I want to talk about how we need to cultivate radical compassion and charity as the only defense against such abominations. I want to give an Obamaesque speech about how the ties that bring us together are stronger than the forces tearing us apart. But I can’t. (...)I thought about the third-highest-ranked Scissor statement in enough detail to let it trigger. To even begin to question whether it might be true is so sick, so perverse, so hateful and disgusting, that Idi Amin would flush with shame to even contemplate it. And if the Scissor’s right then half of you would be gung ho in support.
> You guys, who haven’t heard a really bad Scissor statement yet and don’t know what it’s like - it’s easy for you to say “don’t let it manipulate you” or “we need a hard and fast policy of not letting ourselves fight over Scissor statements”. But how do you know you’re not in the wrong? How do you know there’s not an issue out there where, if you knew it, you would agree it would be better to just nuke the world and let us start over again from the sewer mutants, rather than let the sort of people who would support it continue to pollute the world with their presence?
> How do you know that you’re not like the schoolkid who superciliously says “Nothing is bad enough to deserve a swear word” when the worst that’s ever happened to her is dropping her lollipop in the dirt. If that schoolkid gets kidnapped and tortured, does she change her mind? If she can’t describe the torture to her schoolmates, but just says “a really bad thing happened to me”, and they still insist nothing could be bad enough to justify using swear words, who do you side with? Then why are you still thinking I’m “damaged” when I tell you I’ve seen the Scissor statement, and charity and compassion and unity can f--- off and die? Some last remnant of outside-view morality keeps me from writing the whole list here and letting you all exterminate yourselves. Some remnant of how I would have thought about these things a month ago holds me back. So listen:
> Delete Facebook. Delete Twitter. Throw away your cell phone. Unsubscribe from the newspaper. Tell your friends and relatives not to discuss politics or society. If they slip up, break off all contact. Then, buy canned food. Stockpile water. Learn to shoot a gun. If you can afford a bunker, get a bunker. Because one day, whoever keeps feeding us Scissor statements is going to release one of the bad ones.
Humanity: *stops to look at itself for a second*
Also humanity: "what am i even doing man?"
I have never experienced weirder timing than with this video. I've been thinking about things similar to this a lot in the last few days, and had a long conversation exactly about this before getting home. Seeing that this video was posted during when I was going on a walk and talking to my friend about this feels eerie
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RUclips is using synchronicity to serve some of the ads and videos. No spying tech needed. Just a true random generator.
Just called emergence of a field of study. Nothing exceptional about anyone that observes it
After reading the selfishness gene I can only think about things in terms of Genes Memes and Temes.
Life is eternal struggle
Great video, super interesting !!
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Your RUclips channel is incredibly cool. I have had ideas about this subject and similar ones on your channel for a while now. I even found your channel because I was considering using your name for a RUclips channel name, "emergent", and I was seeing if the name was taken. I feel like these ideas are so insightful. They help us explain and understand the origin and spread of many things that influence our lives. They encourage us to be more introspective, self-critical, and insightful into the nature of all pseudo-living things. Excellent work.
Very relevant video. Generative AI + social media algorithms is a dangerous combo. Thanks for spreading this important meme. 🌎 🔥 🚀
Very relevant comment... Generative Al + social media
algorithms is a dangerous combo Thanks for
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@@RupertBruce Very relevant reply brah ... Generative Al + social media
algorithms is a dangerous combo Thanks for
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Wow, I'm so glad I found this channel, I hope you get the attention you deserve. Very mature and well presented content.
I left this video with a minor existential crisis and a sea shanty stuck in my head.
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fun times ahead, interesting to analyse it as its happening.
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I would go so far as to say that this meme will start a new generation of mutations. Good job.
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No because the drunken sailor song was already stuck in my head before this video WAY HAY UP SHE RISES WAY HAY UP SHE RISES WAY HAY UP SHE RISES EARLY IN THE MORNING 🎶
This was super interesting! The old PC style Goodbye scared the SHIT out of me, i thought my computer was gonna turn off!
It's funny because I have my room mate in here watching and she's never heard of your channel or has anything like this come up on her algorithm. Always gotta be one...
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9:57 I think we need to look at this the same way we would genetics, much like a genome you can also have memome let's say in this instance memes are individual peices of an entire memetic structure. So one meme in this memome is baking , another is Shrek shaped food, but in this case it's an entire memetic structure made up of several individual memes.They remind me a lot of language models used by neural networks.
05:53 AFAIK, there is no reason that more complexity is a necessary direction, if it replicates better but it's simpler, then it outcompetes more complex replicators.
I do feel like the concept of “memes” itself is a really excellently demonstrated example of “in extinction it lives on”.
Like, the concept of “internet memes” clearly have overwritten the original meaning, and now you often need to use “genetical memes” or “memetical genes” to describe it.
Yet within death, it’s able to achieve a kind of spreading that Richard Dawkins probably never thought possible. It’s still a somewhat niche idea, but I feel like at least 10% or 5% of the whole world’s population understands this “ideas as a life form” concept to some degree.
Yeah, it all feels really Death Stranding. As in, “It’s not a tragedy, extinction is not the end, it’s an opportunity for a new beginning”.
This video is sublime. Super underrated channel. You deserve much more.
10:20 Talking about “unfalsifiable”, I do think this is one aspect that makes the whole thing a bit… not science?
As in, it’s starting to be a bit “pseudoscientific”.
However, I do really wish we as a society can invent a new word for this. Like, non scientific mostly philosophical thinking systems that aren’t trying to pretend to be science. I feel like with the recent development in AI research and society’s deeper understandings of those types of complex questions (e.g. systems theory, emergency theory, intelligence rising from chaos theory, etc), in the future we will need to start embracing those “pseudo scientific” non-science fields.
Anyway, it’s just something that tilted me a bit, when I tried looking up “Yin Yang” and Wikipedia described it as “a pseudo science”. Like, the statement isn’t wrong, but the study is fundamentally about “let’s do Darwinism without doing science!”
As in, dividing attributes into Yin and Yang, with Yang being the urge for change to happen, and Yin being the urge to deny change. In Darwinism terms, Yin is the aspects that maintains the copy to be the same, while Yang encourages mutation and changes to happen. Thus, without Yin, a system cannot keep maintaining itself and will quickly collapse. Yet without Yang, the system cannot adapt to any environmental changes, thus cannot be considered even alive.
Your illustration of gene generally looks like a candy
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This is the best video about memes I've ever seen. The next time my grandparents ask what one is I'm going to share this with them.
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I just discovered this channel. I am baffled that you don't allready have milions of subs. Your content is amazing and very educational!
I'd argue that memes are just a form of information and they are the actual subjects of all kinds of evolution, but they cannot self-replicate, like you say. Information must be instantiated in physical form in order to exist, and if that physical form can replicate, then the information will spread.
The physical form need not be a self-contained sequence of data like DNA, or an ion cascade in a brain, but if there is physical infrastructure to support it, may even be distributed globally.
The memes that were initially instantiated as DNA found it useful to build the physical infrastructure of the brain, and new memes were instantiated in this new environment which have now outpaced genetic evolution entirely. These new memes also find it useful to build technology which can carry information, another new environment where new memes are being born and which may one day outpace our cultural evolution.
But they do exist physically. They exist as patterns of neuron activation and data on the internet.
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I don't think I stated otherwise.
thank you, i always knew literally everything is evolutionary, even ideas
"Wait, it's all memes?"
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"Always has been."
Memes are patterns going through pattern processors and recombinaters.
This is an interesting meme you have posted here. Piqued my interest.
"The more you drive, the less intelligent you are."
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finally, someone talking about the spread of memes, its a topic that i feel needs some touching on
I hope that this video will get more views. Comment for spreading awareness of this channel with quality content
Shrek cake will be coming round the mountain when it comes.
memes(/and ideas) are like the inputs between nodes in a neural network
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i see no analogy there
you have one of the most underrated channel , I'm happy i found this channel
Sticking out your gyat for the rizzlee
There's no free will, so even the memes modified through "human creativity" are the fruit of "random variation".
8:00 To add onto this, if we ignore the human conscious, it can then be said that it’s not the human that is remixing the memes. It’s the memes gaining control to the local infrastructure (like the brain itself), and commands processing power to obtain useful parts from other local memes, breeding a more powerful next generation.
In a way, I think memes can also experience some degree of “Darwinism revolution” within a single human brain. As in, an artist thinking about a few different potential paths that stem from an idea, and deciding one path to pursuit and make the meme. In a way, this is the meme that survived the Darwinism that happened locally.
very cool thanks! sublime taste in memes and great theory 🤝
All praise the meme video. This needs more views than it has 🔥🔥
17:37 absolutely blarpin
I love how memes help those communicate more effectively and efficiently 😂🎉 I know it has helped me, I wish I could talk in memes all day...🎉
Susan Blackmore's ted talk about memes is great.
meme-theory
• Defined: A mental exercise in trying to understand how it is possible that jacksfilms is at all relevant
I think some genes are reactive to memes , people who have vulnerability have more reactive to memes to hide their vulnerability , they use memes as a means to spread the vulnerability as it's normal.
🧬 🔥 🚀 the memes spread like fire, life is in everything. How blessed we are to live in such a lively universe.
i hate emoji when they're used as word. like "i want 🍔, its 😋" its just pisses me off. in fact, it pisses me off reading my own example
👉🐬🌊🌊🌊⛵ Boop the dolphin. Boop it.
Didn't know you could edge monotone
To copy or not to copy? That is the question and the Memeing of life.
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This video has major potential - but the packaging is off.
Try using the same title & thumbnail style as your 2 most popular videos
Dr voit like your video
"These violent delights have violent ends"
Great video!
Congrats on your growth!
I'm just here to say I found this channel because one of your videos was linked off of 3Blue1Brown's channel and I decided to subscribe. I found 3Blue1Brown's channel because they did a video about Wordle and I was impressed with their approach towards the topic and subscribed to their channel. I found that video because I was playing Wordle and a friend of mine on Facebook posted the video to their feed and I saw it. I started playing Wordle because other people I knew were playing Wordle and I decided it was fun and began to play it for a time until I eventually got bored. I think that gets us to the root level of this meme, for me at least.
3:19 it 'evolves' by a mistake (genetic drift) it spreads by natural selection
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1:00 Wrong, I can haz cheeseburger? is eternal
Memes, Genes, and Beans
08:00 gotta love that dj 👌
You cant convince me otherwise, this video is a sequel to "this video will make you angry" by cpg gray
I actually started to hum that catchy song out loud
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Kermit the frog was a test run.
Crazy frog was a psyop.
Pepe the frog was an atavism.
All hail Kek.
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1 Million Views confirmed my Brother its a unique view on Memes that is intriguing.
Keep up!
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The more I know something about this world, the more I realize that everything just looks like everything. In every tiny thing you can see everything, and in everything you see tiny separate things. I am everything..
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@@DaRocketGuy what does it mean?
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out of the ordinary i mean
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Interesting and insightful as always ❤
Gilgamesh, King of memes
God Save The Meme!
now this is a fun way of looking at society, congrats on 80k subs! 🌔 🔥 🚀
Actual Shrek Cake recipe :
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computers are thinking machines
What a beautiful video
this was on my FYP
I actually found this video because I'm doing a school presentation on memes and memetics
Meme magic is real
I really really love your videos. And your mind. Where will you publish new video?
I appreciate you labeling the generated images as: "Ai Image" . The hivemind approves. 👍👾
Copyright prevents the motion of memetic evolution and therefore Innovation.
I think it actually enforces some forms of it while inhibiting others
Copyright is one of the great filters lol
@@thegoldenatlas753 that doesn't make any sense
So that means that books are like this too, any idea and discussion
i notice its incredbly easy to start trends, i cant even remember everything but remember i was first to use :X emoji, or a "YW" instead "NP" and meany others dont even remember not that i was maby THE FIRST but really feels like it.
There would be some irony in talking about this with a friend.
My brain will remember this
apply to ai and ai developers
didnt watch to the end the end at that time
Wish the animation for evolution had 'crosspollination'. I.e. An idea can have more than 1 parent.💃🕺
The ultimate meme, language
20:22 some of these these are actually funny tho
12:57 When the sound effect played, I thought I had received a message. 🤣
Your videos are so inspiring.