Dana, I happened across your blog post about Ollie Werther. What a sad story. Lucy Werther was my gg grandmas half sister through Barbara Ashley and Edmund Duncan. So hello, cousin!
@@Tsili-Walela, Hi, cousin! Lucy & Kenny’s family is fascinating. And I don’t have a maiden name for Barbara! Is it Duncan? Or Ashley? Feel free to email me: drleeds@sbcglobal.net :)
Hi Dana - I have been using the Enhanced DNA tools on Ancestry for a few months now. I have a question - I have many distant matches from both my maternal and paternal sides. Also to note, I have branches of both parents that are heavily located in western Pennsylvania. My paternal branch goes back to the 1700s in Pennsylvania and I know that the families were farmers and intermarried with cousins (mostly distant) over the generations. There is a high concentration of these ancestors in Butler County Pennsylvania starting in the early 1800s. On my maternal side, I have immigrants from Alcace and Germany that settled in Butler County Pennsylvania. The new Ancestry tools have allowed me to identify some of these distant cousins - up to 6C when I follow up with Genealogy reserch, So I am thinking that there must be endogamy or multiple relationships in play for me to get a Shared match with small CM and be able to identify them in my tree. Curious what your thoughts are on this. Thanks so much! I love your videos!
@mariecarpenter3371, Many people wiht colonial ancestors see multiple relationships (or pedigree collapse). And, with both lines from the same area, you are likely to see some people connected to both sides of your family tree. When identifying these distant cousins, just keep in mind that there could be other possible connections. But, if you are seeing a cluster (for instance, a group of shared matches) that all seem to be from the same part of your tree, it is quite possible you have found the right connection! Thank you for your kind words! 😊
I again have learned from your videos. I didn't think to add notes under a match to indicate how I relate to an ancestor. Question. Will that go away if I stop subscribing to Pro-Tools? Also, I have several 2nd-3rd cousins matches and can't identify a common ancestor. I know I'm dealing with a NPE involving my maternal grand or great grand, but for the life of me, I can't find a MCRA.
@@gerrigibson5118, Hi! I always enjoy hearing that someone has learned from what I’ve taught, so thanks for sharing! :) Good news: The notes will not go away if you stop subscribing from Pro Tools. As far as these mystery 2nd-3rd cousins, I would start by trying to verify if your maternal grandmother is biologically your maternal grandmother. If you can verify that based on DNA matches, then I would start working on that next generation. Best wishes!
Hi again Dana, me again 😕. I have a complicated case. I've corresponded a few times with you in your LEEDS page. Anyway, I am trying to find who my Paternal Great Great Grandfather is. I may have said Great grandfather in the other video but that is incorrect. Anyway, I believe I am related to my matches in more than one way. Not only do I share way more DNA than I should for the relationships, but when I do LEEDS I can come up with three distinct GG Grandparent couples. According to paper I should share another couple the supposed parents (Hammond) of my Great Grandfather, but I don't. When you get down to let's say 80 cM and you have a large list of possible relationships, how far back should you build the tree to figure out who the common ancestor is? Especially if you don't know for sure the surnames, or you see one or maybe even two shared surnames, but it's such a common surname such as Smith, that you share that name on both lines of your family? I am watching all these video's you have on your channel. I couldn't access the one mentioned in the other page as I don't have the finances currently to do so but I am watching all of these.
@MusicInMotion_67, There are several possibilities of why you aren't seen matches to the Hammond line. It could be that no one has tested in whatever cM range you are searching. Or the surname could be wrong either or there could be an NPE on that line - a "not the parent expected." When you are at 80 cM, you will likely need to build trees back to the 16 great, great grandparent level...or even a generation further back! You could also look for the "right" location - either the location you are expecting, or a location you are seeing in multiple trees. I will continue putting videos out! I will share parts of the one I mentioned to you from Legacy, too. Best wishes!
Thank you. Two of my matches that are on the Hammond line, 2C1R who I share quote a bit with 327 and 567 cM have given me access to their matches. There are people from this supposed shared great great grandparents to me great grandparents to them. These other matches would be 2C to me if I descended from that line. This is what makes me question rather I truly do or not.
I currently don't have an Ancestry account right now. I can see there are 45 shared matches for my husband and one of his DNA matches, but not who they are. The same match on MyHeritage, has 435 shared matches (which I currently do have an account). This match is an important 2C. Their branch is the only one that stayed and married in England. All the other siblings (including my husband's grandmother) moved to Newfoundland and married someone from Newfoundland, so most of the other 2C's are double or triple cousins. I'm hoping I'll be able to establish some patterns now with the great-grandparents and further back. Family rumour (great-great-grandma had babies while hubby was at sea) and some records seem to confirm great-grandfather's bio-father was actually the boarder.
You missed a tree type: Unlinked trees. No Tree, Unlinked tree, linked private tree, linked public tree...only linked trees will give common ancestor hints. (I didn't think you explained it very clearly..just constructive criticism - otherwise great video).
Dana mentions, and looks at, an unlinked tree at 13.23? Perhaps you didn’t bother to watch the whole video. Why be so critical? Dana produces excellent content and I would recommend her videos. 😊
@@Disblair I did watch the entire video. As I said, I wasn't trying to be mean.. she missed it at first and it came across a bit confusing. Sorry if my answer triggered YOU. Dana responded to me and I do not think she felt I was being "so critical".Sheesh. Take a chill pill.
Another great and useful video. Thanks for always ending with examples
@@kathleenkelley1299, You’re welcome! 💕
Dana, I happened across your blog post about Ollie Werther. What a sad story. Lucy Werther was my gg grandmas half sister through Barbara Ashley and Edmund Duncan. So hello, cousin!
@@Tsili-Walela, Hi, cousin! Lucy & Kenny’s family is fascinating. And I don’t have a maiden name for Barbara! Is it Duncan? Or Ashley? Feel free to email me: drleeds@sbcglobal.net :)
@@DanaLeedsIt’s Ashley. I sent you an email.
@@Tsili-Walela, I'll look for it! If I don't see it there, you can contact me on Facebook. I'm Dana Stewart Leeds.
Hi Dana - I have been using the Enhanced DNA tools on Ancestry for a few months now. I have a question - I have many distant matches from both my maternal and paternal sides. Also to note, I have branches of both parents that are heavily located in western Pennsylvania. My paternal branch goes back to the 1700s in Pennsylvania and I know that the families were farmers and intermarried with cousins (mostly distant) over the generations. There is a high concentration of these ancestors in Butler County Pennsylvania starting in the early 1800s. On my maternal side, I have immigrants from Alcace and Germany that settled in Butler County Pennsylvania. The new Ancestry tools have allowed me to identify some of these distant cousins - up to 6C when I follow up with Genealogy reserch, So I am thinking that there must be endogamy or multiple relationships in play for me to get a Shared match with small CM and be able to identify them in my tree. Curious what your thoughts are on this. Thanks so much! I love your videos!
@mariecarpenter3371, Many people wiht colonial ancestors see multiple relationships (or pedigree collapse). And, with both lines from the same area, you are likely to see some people connected to both sides of your family tree.
When identifying these distant cousins, just keep in mind that there could be other possible connections. But, if you are seeing a cluster (for instance, a group of shared matches) that all seem to be from the same part of your tree, it is quite possible you have found the right connection!
Thank you for your kind words! 😊
I again have learned from your videos. I didn't think to add notes under a match to indicate how I relate to an ancestor. Question. Will that go away if I stop subscribing to Pro-Tools? Also, I have several 2nd-3rd cousins matches and can't identify a common ancestor. I know I'm dealing with a NPE involving my maternal grand or great grand, but for the life of me, I can't find a MCRA.
@@gerrigibson5118, Hi! I always enjoy hearing that someone has learned from what I’ve taught, so thanks for sharing! :)
Good news: The notes will not go away if you stop subscribing from Pro Tools.
As far as these mystery 2nd-3rd cousins, I would start by trying to verify if your maternal grandmother is biologically your maternal grandmother. If you can verify that based on DNA matches, then I would start working on that next generation. Best wishes!
@Genealogy with Dana Leeds I noticed you have Eastwood, which are my cousins, do you know the family history of the Eastwoods?
@RobertStarkey2010, My Eastwoods came from Yorkshire and Lancashire, England. I'd love to talk! You can email me at drleeds@sbcglobal.net
@DanaLeeds I see, do you have India DNA as its a common for the Indian Diaspora.
@@RobertStarkey2010 No, I don't. Completely NW European.
Are shared matches in ancestry triangulated?
@@sinisalo8710, They aren’t, but I’ve heard they will “soon” start showing some type of symbol or something to indicate triangulation! :)
Hi again Dana, me again 😕. I have a complicated case. I've corresponded a few times with you in your LEEDS page. Anyway, I am trying to find who my Paternal Great Great Grandfather is. I may have said Great grandfather in the other video but that is incorrect. Anyway, I believe I am related to my matches in more than one way. Not only do I share way more DNA than I should for the relationships, but when I do LEEDS I can come up with three distinct GG Grandparent couples. According to paper I should share another couple the supposed parents (Hammond) of my Great Grandfather, but I don't. When you get down to let's say 80 cM and you have a large list of possible relationships, how far back should you build the tree to figure out who the common ancestor is? Especially if you don't know for sure the surnames, or you see one or maybe even two shared surnames, but it's such a common surname such as Smith, that you share that name on both lines of your family? I am watching all these video's you have on your channel. I couldn't access the one mentioned in the other page as I don't have the finances currently to do so but I am watching all of these.
@MusicInMotion_67, There are several possibilities of why you aren't seen matches to the Hammond line. It could be that no one has tested in whatever cM range you are searching. Or the surname could be wrong either or there could be an NPE on that line - a "not the parent expected."
When you are at 80 cM, you will likely need to build trees back to the 16 great, great grandparent level...or even a generation further back! You could also look for the "right" location - either the location you are expecting, or a location you are seeing in multiple trees.
I will continue putting videos out! I will share parts of the one I mentioned to you from Legacy, too.
Best wishes!
Thank you. Two of my matches that are on the Hammond line, 2C1R who I share quote a bit with 327 and 567 cM have given me access to their matches. There are people from this supposed shared great great grandparents to me great grandparents to them. These other matches would be 2C to me if I descended from that line. This is what makes me question rather I truly do or not.
I currently don't have an Ancestry account right now. I can see there are 45 shared matches for my husband and one of his DNA matches, but not who they are. The same match on MyHeritage, has 435 shared matches (which I currently do have an account). This match is an important 2C. Their branch is the only one that stayed and married in England. All the other siblings (including my husband's grandmother) moved to Newfoundland and married someone from Newfoundland, so most of the other 2C's are double or triple cousins. I'm hoping I'll be able to establish some patterns now with the great-grandparents and further back. Family rumour (great-great-grandma had babies while hubby was at sea) and some records seem to confirm great-grandfather's bio-father was actually the boarder.
@@Elke_KB That’s interesting! I hope you are able to do more with this match. And thanks for sharing!
You missed a tree type: Unlinked trees. No Tree, Unlinked tree, linked private tree, linked public tree...only linked trees will give common ancestor hints. (I didn't think you explained it very clearly..just constructive criticism - otherwise great video).
@@Elke_KB, I did miss one! Thanks for the comment. :)
Dana mentions, and looks at, an unlinked tree at 13.23? Perhaps you didn’t bother to watch the whole video. Why be so critical? Dana produces excellent content and I would recommend her videos. 😊
@@Disblair, Thank you! 💕
@@Disblair I did watch the entire video. As I said, I wasn't trying to be mean.. she missed it at first and it came across a bit confusing. Sorry if my answer triggered YOU. Dana responded to me and I do not think she felt I was being "so critical".Sheesh. Take a chill pill.
@@DanaLeeds Thank you! Your explanations and instuction has been very helpful. My new fave :)