@@fioragaming19 This is a Fnatic classic. In 2018-19 I remember a specific game where they did it in Toplane (yeah, since the map is mirrored you can do it up there too) and got first blood
@@nickbessererExcept, no you can't say that's why when it comes to league coaching, not when there are plenty of couches and teachers who are paid lots of money in League that hard flame their clients and are assholes like Neece. It also happens in actual education with schooling too. They're getting paid to teach but they're not always nice and humble. It has nothing to do with anything because someone with a God complex is going to show it regardless.
@@epicjet27-ben60 You don't need both support and ADC to leash. It helps definitely, but the support isn't always needed. So the support can stand on the edge of tower range and spot anyone walking into bush. And also if they have a soon support. I feel like it's common knowledge to know that he will look for the lvl 1 Q in bush.
fun fact, on pro stage they dont do bottom side invades no more, bcs this strat was exploited by Fnatic from S7 to S9, a lot of teams started doing the same and ended up being a common strat to use, so it started getting countered, so they stopped using it. its not new, but uncommon nowadays.
Wow, that is one of the biggest brain pathing moves i've ever seen. I had NO idea you could walk out of vision even if they drop that mid bush ward like that
Bruh. That'd be them losing money on their coaching lessons. I'm assuming he was told to not do that exact thing you're asking for, sure clips like this are totally fine but to give the whole lesson? When you didn't pay for it like this guy did? Come on man commom sense.
Damn I did not know that. Even so; I feel like this isn't a very viable workaround. In a lot of your cheeses don't they wait in that brush? In situations where you're anticipating they're warding but they're actually just waiting in the brush for you - it ruins the invade and might even get you killed. Simply walking up and spotting out wards / baits with sweeping lens and getting quick ward gold / being more likely to survive is probably better averaged out than the coaches method.
@@ravercorum20 just sweep on your way in it’s not more damaging than the previous method. Just avoid walking in range of the middle ward while it’s sweeping
@@Tilterella But walking in within full view of the brush is additional danger to you is it not? Like if you're walking in from within the brush you get to scout out most of the adjacent brush without being spotted which is a big safety net and it also gives the enemies less time to respond when you approach into bush 3 from fog of war.
Any time I've cheesed as teemo top I've done something similar... theres a triangle on the ground you can path on to not touch vision even though map shows it has vision for enemy team
Holy shit it’s zorenous and he’s still rank 1 that’s wild. Used to play a lot of 3s with him on OCE back in 2016 when I lived in Sydney. Wow what memories
I remember someone asking a pro why was he was going a random build on a champion. He said he lost lane to iron 2 kassadin pick up tear and rushed Leachman. He was sure it was trash but wanted to do it him self. Lv 6 came he spiked so hard and was confused. He left the game confused like the iron 4 player was 5 head. his been doing the same build 3 years in a row.
The same is possible on top lane. Overall, the map looks as if designed specifically for so many blind spots. Also, FYI non-super minions have slightly lower vision than players which have equal vision to wards.
I stopped warding in bushes. I ward a bit infront of that very corner he walked through and infront of river bush instead of inside the bush, I should see ppl walk in bushes and poke them out
that's why i never ward middle and ward tower bush lol I learned this cause of my pyke ptsd lol cause i knew there's so many funny FoW where you are unseen cause how vision works
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Tilt: oh this is gonna be funny
Tilt 10minutes later: wait... this man is actually on to something
Rank 1 got brains
@@Tilterella lmao, when the investment actually turns into an investment lol
@@RisenDawn when you get more than you expected
I saw it on a FNC game Hyli and Upset won the lane 1 doing this thing. I was 🤯🤯🤯
@@fioragaming19 This is a Fnatic classic. In 2018-19 I remember a specific game where they did it in Toplane (yeah, since the map is mirrored you can do it up there too) and got first blood
Dude I swear if I get boomed on by a ninja sion I'm blaming you guys LOL
if and when you get boomed I expect you to think of me and immediately subscribe
@@Tilterella that sounds absolutely fair
Imma just let you guys know I got boomed just yesterday
imagine paying hundreds for hours of coaching and then you get only 1 useful tip ;_;
Uh oh an ad sion learned the forbidden knowledge you lose half your health
Dude that coach sounded so nice and lowkey humble, even made me want to play 🙂
No..... dont play.... not another...
Yeah because he was highkey being paid
@@nickbessererExcept, no you can't say that's why when it comes to league coaching, not when there are plenty of couches and teachers who are paid lots of money in League that hard flame their clients and are assholes like Neece. It also happens in actual education with schooling too. They're getting paid to teach but they're not always nice and humble. It has nothing to do with anything because someone with a God complex is going to show it regardless.
You got crush
The voice sounds like Baus.
"There's always someone better than you." + "Even the best of the best can learn something from a fool." = that
That's insane holy shit
I know I totally wasn't expecting him to actually improve my cheese lmao
You do know all Kayle has to do is walk on the edge tower range and Sion is spotted walking into bush.
@@ivanstayner8818 yes but bot lane usually leashes so they wouldn’t be there
@@epicjet27-ben60 You don't need both support and ADC to leash. It helps definitely, but the support isn't always needed. So the support can stand on the edge of tower range and spot anyone walking into bush. And also if they have a soon support. I feel like it's common knowledge to know that he will look for the lvl 1 Q in bush.
@@ivanstayner8818 Can yes but nobody sits afk under turret after warding. U might as well leash
when tilt was going to the bush i was expecting the coach to charge a full q + AA + ult + AA + ignite + ctrl6 and scream "TOLD YOU!"
Ult? Its the beginning of the match...
@@Hinaru2008 rank 1 difference
I AM UNSPOTTABLE!!
so glad ur back
Missed my man too
Meanwhile other players: just wards that brush
This is great, and I'd really appreciate a full video.
I have never been so excited for a video until this.
The unseen Sion is the deadliest.
It’s really mind blowing🤯
Tilterella with challenger-level cheese starts will be a nightmare
I first saw this from FNC I think cheesing G2 in a professional game
Fog of war manipulations
I need to see more from this as a series and used in practice. Thats so broken but hard to pull off
Holy clap, that's awesome!
Have you considered doing Phase Rush + Ghost Sion using this cheese?
Glacial is better. The slow allows your botlane to keep on the enemy and keep the damage up.
@@chaotixthefox Or just have a Nautilus or Blitz support x.x
"in which commander do the laws of heaven and earth lie"
Sun Tzu
The Art Of War
this is actually what good teemos do in top ane against match ups with late game runes. its even easier if ur champion has a small hit box
I love how cheeky he sounds haha
You fool, Tilterella will soon grow too powerful!
This isnt cheese, this is insane game knowledge and utilization
I’m sorry I can’t stop laughing every single time he talks. 😂
Bruh that’s tilterella. what a fkn throwback
That gave a new definition to walking on thin ice
fun fact, on pro stage they dont do bottom side invades no more, bcs this strat was exploited by Fnatic from S7 to S9, a lot of teams started doing the same and ended up being a common strat to use, so it started getting countered, so they stopped using it. its not new, but uncommon nowadays.
“Oh shit, he’s smart”
I would agree yet have consistently seen the river bush be warded as well. Crazy how you can move that small sliver on sion of all ppl
me: ward directly in the 3rd bush. always.
That play is from upset and hilly, Caedrel cach them doing this on his stream, love it
It's getting outta hand! Somebody stop him
Thats why i ward every single pixel because i can't get angry at freaking ninjas.
Man, pros are actually insane at knowing where vision is
These challenger players are crazy man
brother zorenous always got your back man
He is Rank 1 Challenger. Challenger players are challenge for a reason. Those skillsets game knowledge holy shit. Neither of us knew about all those.
Wow, that is one of the biggest brain pathing moves i've ever seen. I had NO idea you could walk out of vision even if they drop that mid bush ward like that
that line up insane 😮
This implies that the enemy will ward .
Can we see the whole coaching session?
Please 💯💯💯💯
Bruh. That'd be them losing money on their coaching lessons. I'm assuming he was told to not do that exact thing you're asking for, sure clips like this are totally fine but to give the whole lesson? When you didn't pay for it like this guy did? Come on man commom sense.
That's how that dude makes money. Come on now.
Die less, cs better, reduce your champion pool, dont tilt/mute your team if youre easily tiltable. Thatll be 350$
Thats why i ward the lanes around bushes max vision
Jokes on you my supports never use wards.
me who accidentally places the ward outside the bush:
He is a cool guy, we all like cool guys
They was finna all in each other 😂😂
NGL I'm going to fall for guys like him. I like guys who can teach well and is smart.
Tilterella when the rank 1 challenger actually plays like a rank 1 challenger
Imagine thinking it’s safe in the third bush so you go to check, but lo and behold the entire enemy team is sitting there waiting.
Me who wards 3rd bush: Hehe, you ain't getting m---*gets smashed from middle bush*
"Supports ussualy ward this bush" my supports: doesnt use the first ward till 30 mins, only for it to be insta killed
Well this turned out well.
The strat when the enemy place the Ward a little bit off:
Was waiting for the knock up scare
People ready to flame Tilt: "Wait, this isn't how you play the game."
I hate cheese plays but I got othing but respect for people who turn that "cheese" into a science XD
This is the kinda thing that establishes a gold diff that changes things 🤣🤣
When you sign up to troll but actually get an education lmao
He's actually cracked
Damn I did not know that. Even so; I feel like this isn't a very viable workaround. In a lot of your cheeses don't they wait in that brush? In situations where you're anticipating they're warding but they're actually just waiting in the brush for you - it ruins the invade and might even get you killed.
Simply walking up and spotting out wards / baits with sweeping lens and getting quick ward gold / being more likely to survive is probably better averaged out than the coaches method.
keep in mind for every time you see a clip like that theres 100 where they ward and run to leash blue.
@@Tilterella It just seems more dangerous is all; especially now that you've made the method public they're much more likely to anticipate it.
@@ravercorum20 just sweep on your way in it’s not more damaging than the previous method. Just avoid walking in range of the middle ward while it’s sweeping
@@Tilterella But walking in within full view of the brush is additional danger to you is it not? Like if you're walking in from within the brush you get to scout out most of the adjacent brush without being spotted which is a big safety net and it also gives the enemies less time to respond when you approach into bush 3 from fog of war.
@@ravercorum20 like, some people really do enjoy arguing
Dude got lineups in lol
Any time I've cheesed as teemo top I've done something similar... theres a triangle on the ground you can path on to not touch vision even though map shows it has vision for enemy team
At the very least, i get to blame you guys when an enemy sion pull this off against me 🤷♂️
Anyone who watched world's last year should have seen this done in the top lane. It's been around for a while
As a support I have never warded like this lmao
Me in gold elo not having to worry about wards like that
Meanwhile the player puts wards in first bush
Holy shit it’s zorenous and he’s still rank 1 that’s wild. Used to play a lot of 3s with him on OCE back in 2016 when I lived in Sydney. Wow what memories
His "broken" sounds like lando Norris
can't wait to see this in action lmao
They’ve been doing this in pro play for a while I thought
I remember someone asking a pro why was he was going a random build on a champion. He said he lost lane to iron 2 kassadin pick up tear and rushed Leachman. He was sure it was trash but wanted to do it him self. Lv 6 came he spiked so hard and was confused. He left the game confused like the iron 4 player was 5 head. his been doing the same build 3 years in a row.
Bold of you to assume the enemy support would actually normally do that can't of ward
out of all the things he could have taught you, he taught you how to cheese 😂
He got what he asked for
Fog of war tactics are cool
Guess we’re warding the first bush now🤣
TheBausffs: *Interesting.*
but you forget that bronze literally ward all the bush XD
Or none, so that it’s sneaky for no reason
dude this trick is acually too high elo to work XD
Bro Made a whole Setup to Not even use abilitys
bro this is huuuuge!!! you're gonna be insane
I saw someone in LEC do this before. This isn't exactly the most unknown thing
Thats actually crazy
Ward the thing that do at least 70% of game because 😂
until the bot has a brain and maintains a distance wasting ur time :DDDDD
Oh man....galaxy brain tactics incoming
This is common knowledge man
The same is possible on top lane. Overall, the map looks as if designed specifically for so many blind spots. Also, FYI non-super minions have slightly lower vision than players which have equal vision to wards.
Man paid for some tips that you could search on RUclips 💀
I swear this happened to Fnatic 1-2 years ago.
They have to specifically ward it there though .
Not really, they're showing the worst case scenario, anywhere else else in that bush still creates the same small gap to cross
i heard it " my sion jesus " lol
I stopped warding in bushes. I ward a bit infront of that very corner he walked through and infront of river bush instead of inside the bush, I should see ppl walk in bushes and poke them out
Baus already did this very often, works great
I’m going to steal this as naut now
don't let them know your next move: ward the first bush
It's been a while since I've heard the Braun theme lol. It's what I started playing league on
I mean he’s the no.1 challenger for a reason
Dang another pocket vision
that's why i never ward middle and ward tower bush lol I learned this cause of my pyke ptsd lol cause i knew there's so many funny FoW where you are unseen cause how vision works