they literally said contraception is bad because it severs the two aspects of sex which should not be separated - procreation and pleasure. Did you watch the whole video?
@@kip6578I think the point is, that is just a thesis. Contraception is interfering with the natural process of conception. But, it doesn't necessarily follow that that is wrong. The "wrongness" is something that needs to be elaborated on. I think that's what the OP is getting at.
I have only started to look into this. I am a Christian not a Catholic, but after looking at a lot of pro life talks this is my next step. While i think many contraceptions have health risks and thats why I would want to avoid them, I think if we were to be complete naturalists, then we shouldnt have cars, God made us legs, we shouldnt have blood tests, but just trust God. I feel its getting religious and turning many off when we resort to religion as our reasons. Now i am a bible based follower of Christ, but i am not into man made rules. I will be making my choice based on if that contraception has a abortion effect or health risks. I personally would rather do natural contraception, but i have had 2 kids, been through health issues, getting older and I do not wish to find myself pregnant. Having said that, people who have had vasectomies have still fathered Children. If God wills it, it happens.
Contraception is bad because it completely disrespects one of the two ends of the conjugal act: procreation. It’s like someone saying “I’m going to provide money for my family” and then goes out to rob a bank. His achievement of that result (providing for his family) had only occurred due to him disrespecting the good of justice.
@@BiteTheHookwhere did the Bible say that it disrespects sex. All I hear Is man made law. And I would not allow any man preclude my freedom just like The Bible says.
So using a condom is just as bad as robbing a bank? If a couple is infertile, how is it not against the church because their sex will NEVER produce in a child. If a couple doesn't want to conceive, and rather than "disrespecting sex" decides to abstain altogether, how does that provide any unity to that couple? Complete avoidance of a sacrament. I understand being pro life, and not killing babies. I do not understand how if someone has children and doesnt want more, or doesnt want children in the first place is a disrespect to God. If God designed our bodies with the ability to heal themselves, is taking medication or receiving surgery not against his original design?
Thanks for this! It’s definitely a challenge balancing parenthood with all other aspects of our lives- including my own artistic endeavours as an independent musician 💕 Thanks so much for the inspiration.
think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again. I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,n
think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again. I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,n1
"Godless clowns"? That's not a Christian thing to say AT ALL. Comments like the one you just made are why the secular culture has no respect for and flat out hates Christianity! YOU have zero right or authority to call ANYONE nasty names. Even if what they believe is wrong. As Christians, we are called to be loving and forgiving. To teach those that do not know Jesus, and to introduce them to Him! We absolutely have a right - a duty! - to identify and call out sin. But we are to focus on the SIN, and not ridicule and judge the human being who committing the sin. HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAN CAST THE FIRST STONE - does that little verse ring a bell? None of us - not a SINGLE PERSON - is without sin, and we ALL need Jesus to save us. That includes you, Mr. Jumper. You are every bit a "Godless clown" as any of the people that you judge and ridicule from you pedestal. It makes me so sad, knowing how many people we push away by being rude and nasty and judgemental.
It’s too extreme to be completely against contraceptives AND abortion, because effective contraceptives can prevent abortions. If people use condoms, there will be a lot less abortion. And families should be able to decide when they want kids. There is nothing wrong with a husband and wife using pull out or condoms or a diaphragm if they need to recoup between kids or they are done having kids. You need to replenish your body nutrients after birth anyways, not go straight into having another baby.
If women cared for their babies in the way their biology is designed to (which isn’t always possible, but for most women it is) meaning to breastfeed and sleep near the baby, among other things, a woman’s cycle on average is repressed for many months. In other cultures that aren’t so modern in their childcare practices this still occurs. Women aren’t supposed to be able to immediately become pregnant.
There is a lot of evidence showing the rise in contraception use correlating with the rise in abortions. Because they have the same mindset, having sex when you’re not prepared for or intending a child. There is nothing extreme about the way it’s been done for most of human history. Also, spouses can decide that without contraception: abstinence or NFP.
@@rorirm @rorirm The books I read about it (one of them is called breastfeeding and natural child spacing) said that some women's bodies are more sensitive. The guidelines they give are: no bottles, no or limited pacifiers, very frequent nursing during the day and night, and even a daily nap for the mother where she nurses the baby during it. I personally have been able to use a pacifier and not take a daily nap but I nurse on demand day and night and it ends up being 12-15+ times a day for like a year. There is a difference between "exclusive breastfeeding" and "ecological breastfeeding". But of course there is variability among women. In that case, fertility awareness is what I've always used to prevent pregnancies.
Congratulations on having the best Catholic content Dr. Brant Pitre is a close second. Your show holds us accountable with tradition, a pursuit of sound Doctrine and Dogma but also being very light hearted with a sense of charity one can really relate to. Thank you and God bless!
Both a very good but Pittre is another format. His bible comments are very precise. I think this type of channel serves another important area of the faith.
think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again. I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,n23
I was on the pill for 20 years. The regular pill, NOT the Plan B one. It was ethinylestradiol and norethindrone. I always thought it prevented conception. Never had a problem with it. NOW I'm hearing it COULD be an abortifacient. Or am I hearing that right? This is all VERY confusing. It almost sounds like you're against ANY form of contraception, which I find VERY narrow. Lila Rose has 2 children, not 22. I would be interested in knowing what contraception SHE uses! She has to use something, or else she would have WAY more than 2 children. I honestly don't think I had a very early "abortion" with the birth control pills I used. And that's another thing. Would you even be able to tell?
For anybody reading this (doesn't look like anybody has, but I'm posting this anyway), I was right! On further research, I found that the low-dose birth control pills that contain estrogen and progestin, prevent FERTILIZATION/CONCEPTION because the sperm and egg NEVER meet. If, for some reason they DO meet (because no birth control is 100% effective), the "regular low-dose birth control pill" does NOT prevent implantation, nor does it harm the embryo. After I had my son (who, by the way, was unplanned), I got on this pill because that's what I thought it did originally. I'm not stupid! So for those of you either on or considering getting on the regular pill, you can do so without guilt! I think what's happening here is that the "morning-after pill" is getting mixed up with and compared to, deliberately or not, the low-dose birth control pill. They are NOT the same! Thank God, I had been worried a little about that!
You would not be able to tell because it could happen before you even expect a period. The Catholic Church is against all forms of artificial contraception. But for serious reasons, you can use natural family planning which is abstaining during the fertile window. Also just a side note, most women would not naturally have 22 children LOL! If you don’t get married until you’re 20s and then you breastfeed each child for their first year, it is very unlikely you will reach double digits. And that’s if you don’t use any natural family planning.
Assuming perfect contraception (not "interception", which is abortifacient): What is the moral difference between 1) contraception and 2) any other way of having sex but avoiding conception? What is the Catholic position on oral contraceptives used for other medical purposes--i.e., regulating menstrual cycle or related headaches, acne, ovarian cysts, endometriosis, etc?
If it is for other medical purposes it is perfectly okay to use them, for those medical reasons as this would fall under the Principle of Double-Effect, but not oral contraceptives, unless again it falls under the medical capacity. If you have such problems consult your doctor and your priest but know there is no problem, as long as the intention and act is for medical reasons.
@@johnnotrealname8168 thank you; I definitely get the double effect. And what's the moral difference between avoiding conception with contraceptives vs without them?
@@johnbockmann I am glad I could help. Many people confuse this aspect of Catholic morality and it really annoys me that people are ignorant of this fact, not you as you were just asking not asserting.
@@johnnotrealname8168 Yes, and I'm sincere about the second part of the question as well. What's the moral difference in, say, the rhythm method vs oral contraceptives?
@@johnnotrealname8168 think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again. I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,n2
“Paul VI in his encyclical Humanae vitae (1968), while condemning the use of all contraceptive methods for even grave (gravia) reasons, declared licit the recourse to the infertile periods if the spouses have good (just and seria) reasons to postpone even indefinitely another pregnancy”
Matt, I struggle with this. I'm 26 and single, I used to be an atheist and was raised as such. I became christian but I can't stop thinking about myself and giving in to masturbation and the idea that I cannot use contraception or have pre-marital sex is really undermining my faith. I am the only christian I know. I just don't see how any of these things are feasable to expect of humans. I lack an environment that helps me, and my faith is not as strong to help me through sin. I can see it's sin, but it's just so hard. What should I do? I feel like I have to try to get married as soon as possible.
I highly suggest listening into some of Jason Evert's talks. He even has a podcast about chasitity and the effects of premartial sex. God bless you. You'll be in my prayers.
think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again. I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,nm2
In a marriage, between a husband and wife, I don’t understand how contraception is bad. Some couples can only afford so many kids to give a good quality of life…are they expected to just not have sex for the rest of their fertile years? Lol.
I don’t know about this one. Not convincing. If you go by the logic that sex is meant to be procreative all the time, then why not always sleep with others when fertile and have many children? What are couples supposed to do in marriage? What is the problem with using contraception?
1968, the pope decrees contraceptives cannot be used right? I remember hearing there was guidance about it, but 1968 was when it was officially banned?
All barrier methods (i.e. condoms) were banned in all Christian denominations before that. 1968 is soon after the oral contraceptive pill started to be used broadly. So the pope wrote his encyclical addressing the issue with the new technology soon after that. The rest of the Protestant world started to change their minds on contraception after the Anglican Lambeth Conference said it was morally licit after this.
I think that is is quite hypocritical to talk about contraception when you are from one of the richest countries in the world. I see it over and over again. Entitled people lecturing others. I guess the woman in a third world country who married in her teens, her husband has no regular income and they cannot feed their kids let alone send them to school will thank you. At least she can look up to the church when her uterus falls out of her lower belly due to too many pregnancies and having to do hard labour throughout them. You live way above their means and enjoy luxury instead of giving up your wealth like a Christian should and helping the poor...The Pharisees of the 21st century....
@Max Wylde I actually did listen and also DID listen to her last interview on this channel. Why don't YOU? I am also open to discussing this topic. I am very much angered by Pharisees. I think this woman has hardly any life experience or ever worked or spent time in a 3rd world country. And then the whole political talk about Biden being left-wing. I am not American, nor interested in politics, however I am aware that Christians are supposed to give up luxury and wealth and live a humble life. I see this lady with her blow-out and her short dresses and make-up and ask myself what this is all about? Look, nothing wrong with short dresses and blow-outs UNLESS you want to preach to others.
@Max Wylde So people in the third world need children for wealth? Which stone do you live under? I spent time in India. And women there do NOT need more kids but access to education and work. You probably never seen anyone who is so poor that they have to choose between starvation and crime.... You live in your ivory towers and preach to people who can't even put food in their bellies to the point where they resort to eating from dumps. I have seen naked children without shoes on these dump piles looking for food...their parents living in nothing but tents....and you sit in your comfortable home and are most likely obese and say that children mean wealth...
@Max Wylde Oh, and I am sure Miss Blowout is going to give her wealth away and move somewhere to help those children that she apparently cares so much for! I mean, contraception is a crime!
@Matt Blaise Are you all Indians?! lol YOUR women? If that was true India would not be one of the countries with the highest numbers of abortion. I am not even talking about abortion but about planned parenthood. Don't come here and tell me that India is a country of morals. If I had not seen little girls sold into prostitution I might be naive enough to believe you.... I will not keep my mouth shut because you are Indian. I am married to an Indian. I lived in India! Our friends maid Uma (11) who used to work in a bar before (from the age of 6) was one day picked up by her father and sold. She was eleven and the most beautiful and lovely little girl. Maybe as a child prostitute she should not practice contraception but contract HIV and have kids that her pimp can then sell on? Please... Give women EDUCATION!!!!
@Matt Blaise Look guys, I like your idea of not aborting and everyone being in a good marriage and having a roof over their head and enough to eat so they don't need to worry about contraception...or women not having to work for survival but having the leisure to stay at home and nursing but it is just not the reality of the world we live in. And Pharisees like Lila only demand bit don't have any solutions...I listened to quite a few of her talks and I have not seen or heard anything but preaching from the luxury of living in the US. If she was a true Christian she would donate her wealth.
I am so guilty that i i sinned because i used a morning after pill once...😢...now that i badly want a child i am scared that i will be punishmed for it...
There wasn't really an explanation in this whole video.. I have catholic friends who are keeping from having kids via natural planning. Whats the difference between that and just normal contraceptives?
I am so glad that someone mentioned this! I am becoming Catholic and there are reasons, but sometimes people have the right beliefs with reasons that are lacking. The first thing that people have to realize is that even though Catholics may use NFP only for important or grave reasons, many well-meaning Protestants use contraceptives for grave reasons. The church does not have a defined list of the grace reasons. At the end of the day a well intentioned Catholic can use NFP for the same reasons that a well-meaning Protestant uses contraceptives. However, what makes contraception unhealthy is that when the husband and wife come together the are becoming one flesh with each other. We do not just give ourselves emotionally and spiritually, but we give ourselves physically and this is the way by which we receive this gift from the other. In sex, a spiritual bond is made by this physical bond, so the way the physical is treated is very important. If one were to damage there body to operate differently that it usually does "like the pill or if a man changes his body so that he cannot produce a seed or he wears a condom" what is happening is they are receiving without giving their entire selves to the other. But God designed sex so that the union is complete and in this union something amazing happens. Malachi chapter 2 says, "Did he not make them one, with a portion of the Spirit in their union?" Adam shows us that Eve was physically taken from man and this is why a man leaves his father and mother and (physically) holds fast to his wife. It says that Adam (knew) his wife Eve. To know means to fully experience the entirety of the other physically and in so doing there is a portion of the Spirit in their union. All that said, NFP respects the body and even if the husband and wife only consummate their marriage on non-fertile days, whenever they perform the sacred act they are able to offer up their entire selves without altering or refraining from giving something. When one uses contraceptives they are not fully giving themselves in an act that is meant to be without holding anything back. And to hate one's body when one is fertile is not healthy. When one uses contraceptives they are admitting that they are not in control. But when one waits till non-fertile days it is more so telling God, "God I know how you made my body, and you gave me a way to see when I am fertile and when I am not. I will respect my body, but whenever I give myself to my spouse I will give all of me. Let me know if this helps! Tbh Marriage is for procreation though :) It doesn't mean you have to have ten kids lol. But Malachi goes on and says, "Did he not make them one, with a portion of the Spirit in their union?[f] And what was the one God[g] seeking?[h] Godly offspring. So guard yourselves[i] in your spirit, and let none of you be faithless to the wife of your youth." Peace friend!
@@mike-cc3dd okay but why? Why is that part of their marriage sacrament? Is there a biblical justification for forbidding sex between married couples that is not intended to lead to children? Also everyone knows that condoms aren't 100% effective. Why can't catholics use condoms while being open to life providing that there is a certain chance they fail?
As a Catholic who absolutely should not get pregnant because it would seriously endanger my life and who requires birth control for medical reasons I clearly see now that this religion is just not for me. So thanks!
Marquette method of NFP has been very easy for us to use and is ok according to Catholic teaching. Little pricier than other methods, but ease of use makes up for that in spades. Still have to abstain during fertile times, but it's way easier to understand when those times are.
By the way, I love what both of you are doing for humanity and the Catholic Church! The contraceptive, abortion and hosexual marriages in the United States and through out the world will cease only when the culture changes and society begins being responsible for paying those who perform the arduous, lifelong task raise the children to live virtuous lives for the benefit of the future society. Chosing a life of poverty rather than a life of luxury and irresponsible pleasure is not a choice. It is a coersion.
It's a controversial issue among some Protestants, Protestants are not a monolith. What about all ghe blatantly unbiblical/idolotrous practices in Cafholoviam
I wonder if they r so into nature and natural things, why do they wear cloths, go to hospitals for healthcare, eat food made in machines and ride in cars when they have 4 legs.
Arguably not consumating the marriage is wrong from a marital duty standpoint. Yet, if the couple has decided, reasonably, to wait to have children, should they wait to get married? So it's wrong to be ready for marriage but not ready for kids? But for marriages where it's not possible to have kids, due to the tragedy of infertility, it seems clear that the marriage still serves many purposes, including cultivating and demonstrating the virtues needed to be a good spouse. So it seems reasonable to be ready for marriage while not ready for kids.
I always wondered why should we learn this contraception if the couple on moral grounds(only found in catholic civilzation ) control their animal instincts when I was 18 ...it's a challenge but it's not losing anything but gaining further steps to be in a chaste life (as a bride of christ irrespective of you being married or unmarried ..) from 18 -26 I struggled with this mentality with the world throwing all sorts of filth ..even fell but admidst all these god helped me and by his grace alone we can move forward with goodwill holy forethought and divine wisdom...couples must be taught this before they get married that they aren't animals (maybe partially as we are flesh and blood) but as a whole they are one of a kind(soul and spirit within it)...and not descendants of monkeys... Its time to mock evolution with our holiness in body and soul ..now or never!!... 🙏LOVE FROM INDIA #FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS!!
Mock evolution, r u from this planet. Evolution is based in reserch of millions of evidences and not some blabber in some book. And at the end u have every right to do whatever u want wuth ur body but don't spit it on other people, if anyone wants a contaceptive let them.
Let's not forget that during the time of Pope Paul VI and his Humani Vitae he addressed and wrote against a huge part of and the vast majority of the Catholic political leadership, including cardinals and biships forcefully favoring contraceptive use, for so many "practical" reasons. Thank God for the protective historic teachings of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church has the responsibility to require the economic leaders of the business societies, as well as governments, to support - through responsible pay to employees - the encouragment of employees in the society to enter into responsible marriages and to be fruitful and multiply - not merely have two or fewer children families (a popular, pervasive, anit-Catholic, protestant economic philosophy and theology). The refusal of historic business leaders, and almost exclusively thorough the Republican Party here in the United States since the introduction and advent of medical, technical contraceptives, exploiting the labor market and only wanting to pay individuals, created the cultural pressures to reduce - and even eliminate family size and families. This economic culture accounts for the encouragement and tremendous pressures of contraceptive sex and homosexual contraceptive relationships, - as swell as encouragement of Natural Family Planning justified "by necessity" and "good conscious,"as especially the large businesses and corporations incur tremendously unreasonable profits, at the destruction of the proper reward for responsibly, married, parties for the dedication and labor of the virtuous developing societies' chidren and the future generations. How many cardinals and bishops accept donations from these businesses from the businesse's unreasonable "contraceptive-supporting" culture while the biships claim to be "prolife," and large families and single parent families live in poverty created by this culture.
Are you saying condoms kills kids? Also, families that can not afford or do not want anymore kids shouldn’t have sex at all? How is that honoring Gods plan to keep couples and families together?
Is anyone organizing a march in DC this Summer to respond to the radical Lefts march this week? If not, I think we should organize one to show the left that the energy is on the side of life.
The difference NFP works with the women's natural cycle that God created, where as the pill takes a perfectly function body and makes it not function the way God created it to. Medicine is for when something is wrong in your body, thus taking medicine to ruin a perfectly function body is immoral and a misuse of medicine.
@@marcusanthony488 I see it as the end does not justified the means. It might be a good idea to not have a child, but not all methods of making that happen are morally equal.
@Potato But the reason I start using NFP is to avoid having kids . That is, I am employing NFP with my spouse so we can exercise control over our reproduction, just as if I would use a condom or birth control pill. How is that NOT contraception.
NFP, while it's great to regulate pregnancy, allows a husband and a wife to have children. Contraception cannot and has been shown to hinder chances of fertility.
So can you not use ovulation cycles either? I don't agree with the only for procreation stance, I don't think that is biblically founded. I think if you murdurer a child either pre or post birth you should be kalled or imprisoned. But as far as banning contraaceptives', I don't agree at all. People are free to make their own choices as long as it's not hurting someone else.
I love all different religions and people of the earth. I find it difficult to put my faith in the Catholic church ( when it comes to abortion) since they have been notorious for using abortion, infenticid, molestation, general abuse for so many generations.
@@grandewill9967In a marriage though? After a husband and wife has as many kids they can afford, are they just supposed to remain celibate the rest of their fertile years? A sexless marriage doesn’t sound healthy to me.
@@casebased8391 Have more children then, and love them as much as you can. It is hard to accept the outcomes of your choices, but you have to do it eventually.
@@grandewill9967 Not everyone can AFFORD 10+ children. 🤦🏻♂️ The average man’s salary is not that high to comfortably support that many kids and give them a good life. You can make the CHOICE to use condoms and have a better outcome-that’s my point. You want people to make bad choices: 1. Sexless marriage or 2. Having too many kids that you can’t afford.
Lila Rose is not really against abortion. In Europe, they have made the pill and condoms free in some countries and in those countries, abortion plummeted and has remained low. Lila Rose is religious. Being religious is not the same as being pro-life in reality.
@@berniepfitzner487 You can't force people to follow your religion. What is somebody forced you to convert to their religion? Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, Satanism? Keep your faith out of politics, or else other people won't keep theirs.
I understand the argument that abortion is wrong. But to say people shouldn’t be allowed to take preventative measures to ensure unwanted pregnancies don’t occur is kind of creepy and cultist.
1 Peter 3 3 Likewise you wives,[a] be submissive to your husbands, so that some, though they do not obey the word, may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, 2 when they see your reverent and chaste behavior. 3 Let not yours be the outward adorning with braiding of hair, decoration of gold, and wearing of robes, 4 but let it be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable jewel of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God’s sight is very precious. 5 So once the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves and were submissive to their husbands, 6 as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are now her children if you do right and let nothing terrify you. Wow this is powerful, woman calls her man lord, we must defend rue Christianity from ANY feminism. Great points Lila!
think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again. I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,n,
I'm catholic and love the show. I don't remember him speaking out against contraception. Remember that there was contraception in his time, but he chose not to talk about it.
I use it for, oh, I don't know...HORRENDOUS cramps, headaches, etc., also. I find it sad people are trying actively not to get with the Scientific times, in order to please their religious warm fuzzies. Sure, teach young kids heavily about the great importance of true love, abstinence and all that - those ideas are wise...just, don't go around acting in this kind of assumed righteousness. To pretend to know everyone's personal story is pure foolishness. Stop pretending to be a doctor or Scientist, simply because of your religious ideals. It's 2021.
Lol birth control is just so guys can have unprotected sex with women and not have to deal with getting them pregnant. It’s literally so guys can hook up
You’re wrong sex has two purposes,one is for Pleasures, the other is for procreation. When using contraception the user is defiling the sexual act, As the user is not being open to life one of the purposes of sex.. To related to something more relatable think about kids who caused him selves to throw up after they eat for whatever reason. They understand it’s wrong but they don’t know why. It’s wrong because they cut off the nutrition aspect they, only got the pleasure from the food. Father Mike Schmitz Made a great video on this topic on Accession Presents
Hey man the other guy didn’t get the whole thing right Theologically speaking. m.ruclips.net/video/LOmWQKCoLd4/видео.html This is a video made by father Mike Schmidts Explaining it
@Max Wylde How do you know that sex for pleasure (in marriage) is turning it away from its purpose? Are you claiming that sex’s exclusive purpose is procreation? How did you make that determination?
@@mr.dododog5793 What is the basis for determining that contraception - like a condom or something - is defiling the sex act? This is a tremendous claim without it seems any supporting justification. The example you use about kids throwing up food is not analogous. First, often kids who do that have serious mental health issues. Second, sex for fun with your spouse is beneficial in several ways: it’s enjoyable which is good for a person experiencing joy and happiness, it’s exercise, and it’s also very bonding and contributes to intimacy. There is nothing in scripture that even remotely suggests that sex for fun within a marriage is somehow defiling sex. That thinking seems to be a relic of asceticism - which the Bible explicitly proscribes.
100 years ago, ALL PROTESTANTS agreed that contreception wasn´t acceptable.. ALL PROTESTANTS, PASTORS, etc.. - Now, times has changed and you come with the: "where in the Bible says.." LOL you evangelicals are a joke
Saying something is the way it is with just a thesis and without premises of an argument is not helpful in defending your beliefs.
they literally said contraception is bad because it severs the two aspects of sex which should not be separated - procreation and pleasure. Did you watch the whole video?
@@kip6578I think the point is, that is just a thesis. Contraception is interfering with the natural process of conception. But, it doesn't necessarily follow that that is wrong. The "wrongness" is something that needs to be elaborated on. I think that's what the OP is getting at.
Lila Rose has the most gorgeous hair! I imagine our Mother Mary has locks like yours.💕
Totally. Almost as good as the receding hair lined head of that interviewer guy.
Your hair is lovely to Matt😅👍
@@pintswithaquinas She'll never touch your beard skills Matt.
@@loribothwell5493 i have basically the same as Matt and my wife makes fun of me!
@@antoniomoyal I'm sorry to hear that. Well, she better lift you up or someone else will snatch you up!
I have only started to look into this.
I am a Christian not a Catholic, but after looking at a lot of pro life talks this is my next step.
While i think many contraceptions have health risks and thats why I would want to avoid them, I think if we were to be complete naturalists, then we shouldnt have cars, God made us legs, we shouldnt have blood tests, but just trust God.
I feel its getting religious and turning many off when we resort to religion as our reasons.
Now i am a bible based follower of Christ, but i am not into man made rules.
I will be making my choice based on if that contraception has a abortion effect or health risks.
I personally would rather do natural contraception, but i have had 2 kids, been through health issues, getting older and I do not wish to find myself pregnant.
Having said that, people who have had vasectomies have still fathered Children.
If God wills it, it happens.
Contraception is bad because it completely disrespects one of the two ends of the conjugal act: procreation. It’s like someone saying “I’m going to provide money for my family” and then goes out to rob a bank. His achievement of that result (providing for his family) had only occurred due to him disrespecting the good of justice.
@@BiteTheHookwhere did the Bible say that it disrespects sex. All I hear Is man made law. And I would not allow any man preclude my freedom just like The Bible says.
So using a condom is just as bad as robbing a bank? If a couple is infertile, how is it not against the church because their sex will NEVER produce in a child. If a couple doesn't want to conceive, and rather than "disrespecting sex" decides to abstain altogether, how does that provide any unity to that couple? Complete avoidance of a sacrament.
I understand being pro life, and not killing babies. I do not understand how if someone has children and doesnt want more, or doesnt want children in the first place is a disrespect to God.
If God designed our bodies with the ability to heal themselves, is taking medication or receiving surgery not against his original design?
@@BiteTheHook it's not like robbing a bank at all, and supposed "ends" aren't things that can be disrespected.
@@misssquizza5616 remember the Bible was written by men , men who married children
Thanks for this! It’s definitely a challenge balancing parenthood with all other aspects of our lives- including my own artistic endeavours as an independent musician 💕 Thanks so much for the inspiration.
think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,n
Lila Rose is always a delight to listen to 🙏
This lady rocks so glad to see a wonderful Catholic woman knocking these godless clowns around. Show me a hero - she is one for sure.
think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,n1
"Godless clowns"? That's not a Christian thing to say AT ALL. Comments like the one you just made are why the secular culture has no respect for and flat out hates Christianity! YOU have zero right or authority to call ANYONE nasty names. Even if what they believe is wrong. As Christians, we are called to be loving and forgiving. To teach those that do not know Jesus, and to introduce them to Him! We absolutely have a right - a duty! - to identify and call out sin. But we are to focus on the SIN, and not ridicule and judge the human being who committing the sin. HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAN CAST THE FIRST STONE - does that little verse ring a bell? None of us - not a SINGLE PERSON - is without sin, and we ALL need Jesus to save us. That includes you, Mr. Jumper. You are every bit a "Godless clown" as any of the people that you judge and ridicule from you pedestal.
It makes me so sad, knowing how many people we push away by being rude and nasty and judgemental.
keep your fucking relgion out of my life you facist hick. I dont need your fucking permission for anything. You people are truly insane
Godless clowns? Don't be so judgemental.
She has not given any evidence. Barrier methods don’t have hormonal effects. Condoms?
It’s too extreme to be completely against contraceptives AND abortion, because effective contraceptives can prevent abortions. If people use condoms, there will be a lot less abortion. And families should be able to decide when they want kids. There is nothing wrong with a husband and wife using pull out or condoms or a diaphragm if they need to recoup between kids or they are done having kids. You need to replenish your body nutrients after birth anyways, not go straight into having another baby.
If women cared for their babies in the way their biology is designed to (which isn’t always possible, but for most women it is) meaning to breastfeed and sleep near the baby, among other things, a woman’s cycle on average is repressed for many months. In other cultures that aren’t so modern in their childcare practices this still occurs. Women aren’t supposed to be able to immediately become pregnant.
There is a lot of evidence showing the rise in contraception use correlating with the rise in abortions. Because they have the same mindset, having sex when you’re not prepared for or intending a child. There is nothing extreme about the way it’s been done for most of human history. Also, spouses can decide that without contraception: abstinence or NFP.
@@racheln4309 I only breastfed and my period came back 10 weeks after birth. So what do you say about that?
@@rorirm @rorirm The books I read about it (one of them is called breastfeeding and natural child spacing) said that some women's bodies are more sensitive. The guidelines they give are: no bottles, no or limited pacifiers, very frequent nursing during the day and night, and even a daily nap for the mother where she nurses the baby during it. I personally have been able to use a pacifier and not take a daily nap but I nurse on demand day and night and it ends up being 12-15+ times a day for like a year.
There is a difference between "exclusive breastfeeding" and "ecological breastfeeding".
But of course there is variability among women. In that case, fertility awareness is what I've always used to prevent pregnancies.
Congratulations on having the best Catholic content Dr. Brant Pitre is a close second. Your show holds us accountable with tradition, a pursuit of sound Doctrine and Dogma but also being very light hearted with a sense of charity one can really relate to. Thank you and God bless!
Both a very good but Pittre is another format. His bible comments are very precise. I think this type of channel serves another important area of the faith.
think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,n23
I was on the pill for 20 years. The regular pill, NOT the Plan B one. It was ethinylestradiol and norethindrone. I always thought it prevented conception. Never had a problem with it. NOW I'm hearing it COULD be an abortifacient. Or am I hearing that right? This is all VERY confusing. It almost sounds like you're against ANY form of contraception, which I find VERY narrow. Lila Rose has 2 children, not 22. I would be interested in knowing what contraception SHE uses! She has to use something, or else she would have WAY more than 2 children. I honestly don't think I had a very early "abortion" with the birth control pills I used. And that's another thing. Would you even be able to tell?
For anybody reading this (doesn't look like anybody has, but I'm posting this anyway), I was right! On further research, I found that the low-dose birth control pills that contain estrogen and progestin, prevent FERTILIZATION/CONCEPTION because the sperm and egg NEVER meet. If, for some reason they DO meet (because no birth control is 100% effective), the "regular low-dose birth control pill" does NOT prevent implantation, nor does it harm the embryo. After I had my son (who, by the way, was unplanned), I got on this pill because that's what I thought it did originally. I'm not stupid! So for those of you either on or considering getting on the regular pill, you can do so without guilt! I think what's happening here is that the "morning-after pill" is getting mixed up with and compared to, deliberately or not, the low-dose birth control pill. They are NOT the same! Thank God, I had been worried a little about that!
You would not be able to tell because it could happen before you even expect a period. The Catholic Church is against all forms of artificial contraception. But for serious reasons, you can use natural family planning which is abstaining during the fertile window.
Also just a side note, most women would not naturally have 22 children LOL! If you don’t get married until you’re 20s and then you breastfeed each child for their first year, it is very unlikely you will reach double digits. And that’s if you don’t use any natural family planning.
Excellent channel . I'm glad i found it .. God bless you all .
Assuming perfect contraception (not "interception", which is abortifacient):
What is the moral difference between 1) contraception and 2) any other way of having sex but avoiding conception?
What is the Catholic position on oral contraceptives used for other medical purposes--i.e., regulating menstrual cycle or related headaches, acne, ovarian cysts, endometriosis, etc?
If it is for other medical purposes it is perfectly okay to use them, for those medical reasons as this would fall under the Principle of Double-Effect, but not oral contraceptives, unless again it falls under the medical capacity. If you have such problems consult your doctor and your priest but know there is no problem, as long as the intention and act is for medical reasons.
@@johnnotrealname8168 thank you; I definitely get the double effect. And what's the moral difference between avoiding conception with contraceptives vs without them?
@@johnbockmann I am glad I could help. Many people confuse this aspect of Catholic morality and it really annoys me that people are ignorant of this fact, not you as you were just asking not asserting.
@@johnnotrealname8168 Yes, and I'm sincere about the second part of the question as well. What's the moral difference in, say, the rhythm method vs oral contraceptives?
@@johnnotrealname8168 think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,n2
A lot of women take birth control to help get rid of period cramps, is the Church still against birth control for that use?
No
You can take diclofenic instead
is she abstaining in those times?
“Paul VI in his encyclical Humanae vitae (1968), while condemning the use of all contraceptive methods for even grave (gravia) reasons, declared licit the recourse to the infertile periods if the spouses have good (just and seria) reasons to postpone even indefinitely another pregnancy”
Matt, I struggle with this. I'm 26 and single, I used to be an atheist and was raised as such. I became christian but I can't stop thinking about myself and giving in to masturbation and the idea that I cannot use contraception or have pre-marital sex is really undermining my faith. I am the only christian I know. I just don't see how any of these things are feasable to expect of humans. I lack an environment that helps me, and my faith is not as strong to help me through sin. I can see it's sin, but it's just so hard. What should I do? I feel like I have to try to get married as soon as possible.
Update, I think I found a way... Jesus is working inside me to change my focus.
I highly suggest listening into some of Jason Evert's talks. He even has a podcast about chasitity and the effects of premartial sex. God bless you. You'll be in my prayers.
@@ChristIsKingPhilosophy I’m glad to hear!
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My friend Mikayla made a video about the issue you are having. Hope it helps God bless you
I don’t agree that contraceptives are bad, and she didn’t give any evidence to support her claims.
@@maxholmes4022 i did. and my statement stands. have a great day!❤️
think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,nm2
@@a.39886 Well, Catholics can still abstain when the eoman is fertile if the situation requires it, it's not wrong to abstain for a period of time
Birth control is making women infertile, damaging their mental and physical health, and damaging our water supply.
In a marriage, between a husband and wife, I don’t understand how contraception is bad. Some couples can only afford so many kids to give a good quality of life…are they expected to just not have sex for the rest of their fertile years? Lol.
I don’t know about this one.
Not convincing.
If you go by the logic that sex is meant to be procreative all the time, then why not always sleep with others when fertile and have many children?
What are couples supposed to do in marriage?
What is the problem with using contraception?
Parenthood is not for everyone, if people want to have sex and not have children they should be allowed to protected themselves.
1968, the pope decrees contraceptives cannot be used right? I remember hearing there was guidance about it, but 1968 was when it was officially banned?
All barrier methods (i.e. condoms) were banned in all Christian denominations before that. 1968 is soon after the oral contraceptive pill started to be used broadly. So the pope wrote his encyclical addressing the issue with the new technology soon after that.
The rest of the Protestant world started to change their minds on contraception after the Anglican Lambeth Conference said it was morally licit after this.
I think that is is quite hypocritical to talk about contraception when you are from one of the richest countries in the world. I see it over and over again. Entitled people lecturing others. I guess the woman in a third world country who married in her teens, her husband has no regular income and they cannot feed their kids let alone send them to school will thank you. At least she can look up to the church when her uterus falls out of her lower belly due to too many pregnancies and having to do hard labour throughout them. You live way above their means and enjoy luxury instead of giving up your wealth like a Christian should and helping the poor...The Pharisees of the 21st century....
@Max Wylde I actually did listen and also DID listen to her last interview on this channel. Why don't YOU? I am also open to discussing this topic. I am very much angered by Pharisees. I think this woman has hardly any life experience or ever worked or spent time in a 3rd world country. And then the whole political talk about Biden being left-wing. I am not American, nor interested in politics, however I am aware that Christians are supposed to give up luxury and wealth and live a humble life. I see this lady with her blow-out and her short dresses and make-up and ask myself what this is all about? Look, nothing wrong with short dresses and blow-outs UNLESS you want to preach to others.
@Max Wylde So people in the third world need children for wealth? Which stone do you live under? I spent time in India. And women there do NOT need more kids but access to education and work. You probably never seen anyone who is so poor that they have to choose between starvation and crime.... You live in your ivory towers and preach to people who can't even put food in their bellies to the point where they resort to eating from dumps. I have seen naked children without shoes on these dump piles looking for food...their parents living in nothing but tents....and you sit in your comfortable home and are most likely obese and say that children mean wealth...
@Max Wylde Oh, and I am sure Miss Blowout is going to give her wealth away and move somewhere to help those children that she apparently cares so much for! I mean, contraception is a crime!
@Matt Blaise Are you all Indians?! lol YOUR women? If that was true India would not be one of the countries with the highest numbers of abortion. I am not even talking about abortion but about planned parenthood. Don't come here and tell me that India is a country of morals. If I had not seen little girls sold into prostitution I might be naive enough to believe you.... I will not keep my mouth shut because you are Indian. I am married to an Indian. I lived in India! Our friends maid Uma (11) who used to work in a bar before (from the age of 6) was one day picked up by her father and sold. She was eleven and the most beautiful and lovely little girl. Maybe as a child prostitute she should not practice contraception but contract HIV and have kids that her pimp can then sell on? Please... Give women EDUCATION!!!!
@Matt Blaise Look guys, I like your idea of not aborting and everyone being in a good marriage and having a roof over their head and enough to eat so they don't need to worry about contraception...or women not having to work for survival but having the leisure to stay at home and nursing but it is just not the reality of the world we live in. And Pharisees like Lila only demand bit don't have any solutions...I listened to quite a few of her talks and I have not seen or heard anything but preaching from the luxury of living in the US. If she was a true Christian she would donate her wealth.
I am so guilty that i i sinned because i used a morning after pill once...😢...now that i badly want a child i am scared that i will be punishmed for it...
There wasn't really an explanation in this whole video..
I have catholic friends who are keeping from having kids via natural planning. Whats the difference between that and just normal contraceptives?
The difference is that you can't sin by not having sex.
@@mike-cc3dd What does it mean to be "open to new life" during sexual intercourse?
There is no difference. It's just a blatant example of the Catholic Church wanting to have its cake and eat it too.
I am so glad that someone mentioned this! I am becoming Catholic and there are reasons, but sometimes people have the right beliefs with reasons that are lacking. The first thing that people have to realize is that even though Catholics may use NFP only for important or grave reasons, many well-meaning Protestants use contraceptives for grave reasons. The church does not have a defined list of the grace reasons. At the end of the day a well intentioned Catholic can use NFP for the same reasons that a well-meaning Protestant uses contraceptives. However, what makes contraception unhealthy is that when the husband and wife come together the are becoming one flesh with each other. We do not just give ourselves emotionally and spiritually, but we give ourselves physically and this is the way by which we receive this gift from the other. In sex, a spiritual bond is made by this physical bond, so the way the physical is treated is very important. If one were to damage there body to operate differently that it usually does "like the pill or if a man changes his body so that he cannot produce a seed or he wears a condom" what is happening is they are receiving without giving their entire selves to the other. But God designed sex so that the union is complete and in this union something amazing happens. Malachi chapter 2 says, "Did he not make them one, with a portion of the Spirit in their union?" Adam shows us that Eve was physically taken from man and this is why a man leaves his father and mother and (physically) holds fast to his wife. It says that Adam (knew) his wife Eve. To know means to fully experience the entirety of the other physically and in so doing there is a portion of the Spirit in their union. All that said, NFP respects the body and even if the husband and wife only consummate their marriage on non-fertile days, whenever they perform the sacred act they are able to offer up their entire selves without altering or refraining from giving something. When one uses contraceptives they are not fully giving themselves in an act that is meant to be without holding anything back. And to hate one's body when one is fertile is not healthy. When one uses contraceptives they are admitting that they are not in control. But when one waits till non-fertile days it is more so telling God, "God I know how you made my body, and you gave me a way to see when I am fertile and when I am not. I will respect my body, but whenever I give myself to my spouse I will give all of me. Let me know if this helps! Tbh Marriage is for procreation though :) It doesn't mean you have to have ten kids lol. But Malachi goes on and says, "Did he not make them one, with a portion of the Spirit in their union?[f] And what was the one God[g] seeking?[h] Godly offspring. So guard yourselves[i] in your spirit, and let none of you be faithless to the wife of your youth." Peace friend!
@@mike-cc3dd okay but why? Why is that part of their marriage sacrament? Is there a biblical justification for forbidding sex between married couples that is not intended to lead to children?
Also everyone knows that condoms aren't 100% effective. Why can't catholics use condoms while being open to life providing that there is a certain chance they fail?
As a Catholic who absolutely should not get pregnant because it would seriously endanger my life and who requires birth control for medical reasons I clearly see now that this religion is just not for me. So thanks!
I get it, I really do, but we have 5 kids now. We've done out part. Can we get a break yet? LOL
You can do whatever you want, you don't have to listen to what any human says.
Marquette method of NFP has been very easy for us to use and is ok according to Catholic teaching. Little pricier than other methods, but ease of use makes up for that in spades.
Still have to abstain during fertile times, but it's way easier to understand when those times are.
@@jakesanders136 maybe he's just looking for some commiseration. It's not an easy teaching to live out.
Tubal ligation and vasectomy.
@@t.dickerson605 that's the same thing as using a contraceptive
By the way, I love what both of you are doing for humanity and the Catholic Church! The contraceptive, abortion and hosexual marriages in the United States and through out the world will cease only when the culture changes and society begins being responsible for paying those who perform the arduous, lifelong task raise the children to live virtuous lives for the benefit of the future society. Chosing a life of poverty rather than a life of luxury and irresponsible pleasure is not a choice. It is a coersion.
It's a controversial issue among some Protestants, Protestants are not a monolith. What about all ghe blatantly unbiblical/idolotrous practices in Cafholoviam
I wonder if they r so into nature and natural things, why do they wear cloths, go to hospitals for healthcare, eat food made in machines and ride in cars when they have 4 legs.
Arguably not consumating the marriage is wrong from a marital duty standpoint. Yet, if the couple has decided, reasonably, to wait to have children, should they wait to get married? So it's wrong to be ready for marriage but not ready for kids? But for marriages where it's not possible to have kids, due to the tragedy of infertility, it seems clear that the marriage still serves many purposes, including cultivating and demonstrating the virtues needed to be a good spouse. So it seems reasonable to be ready for marriage while not ready for kids.
Sex is not the most important thing in the damn world. Bozo
I always wondered why should we learn this contraception if the couple on moral grounds(only found in catholic civilzation ) control their animal instincts when I was 18 ...it's a challenge but it's not losing anything but gaining further steps to be in a chaste life (as a bride of christ irrespective of you being married or unmarried ..) from 18 -26 I struggled with this mentality with the world throwing all sorts of filth ..even fell but admidst all these god helped me and by his grace alone we can move forward with goodwill holy forethought and divine wisdom...couples must be taught this before they get married that they aren't animals (maybe partially as we are flesh and blood) but as a whole they are one of a kind(soul and spirit within it)...and not descendants of monkeys... Its time to mock evolution with our holiness in body and soul ..now or never!!... 🙏LOVE FROM INDIA
#FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS!!
And found in true Christianity as well.
Mock evolution, r u from this planet. Evolution is based in reserch of millions of evidences and not some blabber in some book.
And at the end u have every right to do whatever u want wuth ur body but don't spit it on other people, if anyone wants a contaceptive let them.
Given the fact that contraception is everywhere it is better to learn for your own safety
Let's not forget that during the time of Pope Paul VI and his Humani Vitae he addressed and wrote against a huge part of and the vast majority of the Catholic political leadership, including cardinals and biships forcefully favoring contraceptive use, for so many "practical" reasons. Thank God for the protective historic teachings of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church has the responsibility to require the economic leaders of the business societies, as well as governments, to support - through responsible pay to employees - the encouragment of employees in the society to enter into responsible marriages and to be fruitful and multiply - not merely have two or fewer children families (a popular, pervasive, anit-Catholic, protestant economic philosophy and theology). The refusal of historic business leaders, and almost exclusively thorough the Republican Party here in the United States since the introduction and advent of medical, technical contraceptives, exploiting the labor market and only wanting to pay individuals, created the cultural pressures to reduce - and even eliminate family size and families. This economic culture accounts for the encouragement and tremendous pressures of contraceptive sex and homosexual contraceptive relationships, - as swell as encouragement of Natural Family Planning justified "by necessity" and "good conscious,"as especially the large businesses and corporations incur tremendously unreasonable profits, at the destruction of the proper reward for responsibly, married, parties for the dedication and labor of the virtuous developing societies' chidren and the future generations. How many cardinals and bishops accept donations from these businesses from the businesse's unreasonable "contraceptive-supporting" culture while the biships claim to be "prolife," and large families and single parent families live in poverty created by this culture.
Amen!!! May Our Dear Lord bless you both! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️✝️
Are you saying condoms kills kids? Also, families that can not afford or do not want anymore kids shouldn’t have sex at all? How is that honoring Gods plan to keep couples and families together?
Is anyone organizing a march in DC this Summer to respond to the radical Lefts march this week? If not, I think we should organize one to show the left that the energy is on the side of life.
How is nfp not intentional contraception? Or is natural contraception morally acceptable ?
The difference NFP works with the women's natural cycle that God created, where as the pill takes a perfectly function body and makes it not function the way God created it to. Medicine is for when something is wrong in your body, thus taking medicine to ruin a perfectly function body is immoral and a misuse of medicine.
@@brycemitchell6343 Ahhh.. so it's not the intention that makes contraception immoral but how you carry out that intention.
@@marcusanthony488 I see it as the end does not justified the means. It might be a good idea to not have a child, but not all methods of making that happen are morally equal.
@Potato But the reason I start using NFP is to avoid having kids . That is, I am employing NFP with my spouse so we can exercise control over our reproduction, just as if I would use a condom or birth control pill. How is that NOT contraception.
NFP, while it's great to regulate pregnancy, allows a husband and a wife to have children. Contraception cannot and has been shown to hinder chances of fertility.
So can you not use ovulation cycles either? I don't agree with the only for procreation stance, I don't think that is biblically founded. I think if you murdurer a child either pre or post birth you should be kalled or imprisoned. But as far as banning contraaceptives', I don't agree at all. People are free to make their own choices as long as it's not hurting someone else.
Amen lila dont be affraid to speak truth
I love all different religions and people of the earth.
I find it difficult to put my faith in the Catholic church ( when it comes to abortion) since they have been notorious for using abortion, infenticid, molestation, general abuse for so many generations.
If you shouldnt have children should you not be able to prevent it?
Not according to these fundamentalists. They seem to see women primarily as baby factories.
You can, celibacy is free and secure.
@@grandewill9967In a marriage though? After a husband and wife has as many kids they can afford, are they just supposed to remain celibate the rest of their fertile years? A sexless marriage doesn’t sound healthy to me.
@@casebased8391 Have more children then, and love them as much as you can. It is hard to accept the outcomes of your choices, but you have to do it eventually.
@@grandewill9967 Not everyone can AFFORD 10+ children. 🤦🏻♂️ The average man’s salary is not that high to comfortably support that many kids and give them a good life. You can make the CHOICE to use condoms and have a better outcome-that’s my point. You want people to make bad choices: 1. Sexless marriage or 2. Having too many kids that you can’t afford.
Lila Rose is not really against abortion. In Europe, they have made the pill and condoms free in some countries and in those countries, abortion plummeted and has remained low. Lila Rose is religious. Being religious is not the same as being pro-life in reality.
Do you have the source for that information please?
What you need to realise Christians think of women basically as baby cannons, they take be fruitful and multiply at the extreme.
Fornication kills the soul. Anti-Contraception is the default position for the Faithful. It is pro life bit more importantly faithful to God's will.
@@berniepfitzner487 You can't force people to follow your religion. What is somebody forced you to convert to their religion? Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, Satanism? Keep your faith out of politics, or else other people won't keep theirs.
@@anonemous7720 we will keep your religion of abortion out of politics by criminalising it.
I understand the argument that abortion is wrong. But to say people shouldn’t be allowed to take preventative measures to ensure unwanted pregnancies don’t occur is kind of creepy and cultist.
Can't they just like dry hump?
1 Peter 3
3 Likewise you wives,[a] be submissive to your husbands, so that some, though they do not obey the word, may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, 2 when they see your reverent and chaste behavior. 3 Let not yours be the outward adorning with braiding of hair, decoration of gold, and wearing of robes, 4 but let it be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable jewel of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God’s sight is very precious. 5 So once the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves and were submissive to their husbands, 6 as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are now her children if you do right and let nothing terrify you.
Wow this is powerful, woman calls her man lord, we must defend rue Christianity from ANY feminism. Great points Lila!
think in adoption,. In Central America, Latin America and Africa where woman have 3,4,5,6 children usually from different fathers, this woman alone or even marriage can`t provide even food to their children entire families live on streets, or inhuman condition and usually the mother is pregnant again.
I will kind you remember there every child you bring to the world may end in hell and there is no way you can`t guarantee they will go to heaven so you will be held accountable for their eternal torture in hell and damnation for the children you bring to the world.,,n,
I'm catholic and love the show. I don't remember him speaking out against contraception. Remember that there was contraception in his time, but he chose not to talk about it.
Because the Church wants more parishioners.
Sex is for marriage,i agree contraceptives are are only to be permitted for married couples after they had had their children fair enough.
I use it for, oh, I don't know...HORRENDOUS cramps, headaches, etc., also. I find it sad people are trying actively not to get with the Scientific times, in order to please their religious warm fuzzies.
Sure, teach young kids heavily about the great importance of true love, abstinence and all that - those ideas are wise...just, don't go around acting in this kind of assumed righteousness. To pretend to know everyone's personal story is pure foolishness. Stop pretending to be a doctor or Scientist, simply because of your religious ideals. It's 2021.
Lol birth control is just so guys can have unprotected sex with women and not have to deal with getting them pregnant. It’s literally so guys can hook up
@@Charlemagnetheman Not in my case!
Look into traditional Chinese herbs.
You can find a practitioner who will help you understand the root cause to your cramps and headaches.
It's 2022 and contraception is still wrong
@@kevinfernandez9999 its 2023 and if you think couples using contraceptives is any of your concern that your fucking crazy
So wait, if a man wants to wear a prophylactic that is wrong? I am curious.
You’re wrong sex has two purposes,one is for Pleasures, the other is for procreation. When using contraception the user is defiling the sexual act, As the user is not being open to life one of the purposes of sex.. To related to something more relatable think about kids who caused him selves to throw up after they eat for whatever reason. They understand it’s wrong but they don’t know why. It’s wrong because they cut off the nutrition aspect they, only got the pleasure from the food. Father Mike Schmitz Made a great video on this topic on Accession Presents
Hey man the other guy didn’t get the whole thing right Theologically speaking. m.ruclips.net/video/LOmWQKCoLd4/видео.html
This is a video made by father Mike Schmidts Explaining it
How does anyone in this comment thread presume to know the purpose of sexual intercourse?
@Max Wylde How do you know that sex for pleasure (in marriage) is turning it away from its purpose? Are you claiming that sex’s exclusive purpose is procreation? How did you make that determination?
@@mr.dododog5793 What is the basis for determining that contraception - like a condom or something - is defiling the sex act? This is a tremendous claim without it seems any supporting justification. The example you use about kids throwing up food is not analogous. First, often kids who do that have serious mental health issues. Second, sex for fun with your spouse is beneficial in several ways: it’s enjoyable which is good for a person experiencing joy and happiness, it’s exercise, and it’s also very bonding and contributes to intimacy.
There is nothing in scripture that even remotely suggests that sex for fun within a marriage is somehow defiling sex. That thinking seems to be a relic of asceticism - which the Bible explicitly proscribes.
Blah blah blah, quote Scripture for your claims if its theological
100 years ago, ALL PROTESTANTS agreed that contreception wasn´t acceptable.. ALL PROTESTANTS, PASTORS, etc..
- Now, times has changed and you come with the: "where in the Bible says.." LOL you evangelicals are a joke