There is very few things as frustrating as ppl that state their opinions as if they are facts. But thank you for opinion on 'good' acting, u must've received your Oscar some time ago lol
😂😂, batteries taped to the doorframe were our usual scene study partners. Keep going Kaden, you did great. Can't wait to see where this takes you. 🎉🎉🎉Hweiting!
The thing is the AI was probably programmed to look fake. If they wanted to, they could make AI act way better, but they have to give us that stuff gradually or we will shun it right away.
@TristanSpohnAKASpiderman world love to see analysis of why some scenes don't work - and become famous and sticky nevertheless. Interstellar' "Love" monolog in particular. I'd tune in for that! (PS considering the topic of this video, I'd better add that humans can type em dashes 😊)
@TristanSpohnAKASpiderman I'm very surprised your score and comments for the "Intermediate Actor" take. #1 That "sparkle" my dear, is called, FaceTune, and needs to be parred down by 50% or removed all together. It is hindering as a distraction. It contrasts given the side by side with an actor not using the same filter/filter-magnitude, reduces microexpression visibility relevant for an up close (Ex: Under-eye wrinkling has been completely erased), and most of all: SHE DOESN"T NEED IT! (I hope it's not switched on for auditions.) #2 Given this was not live recorded, I know this was not their first take, so if this is _their best_ take there shouldn't be: A. 3:56 Aggressive head motion B. 3:58 Laughs while taking a deep breath after half a sentence (causes her to laugh slightly, she recovers well though). After your cut away, she definitely stole the show respectively and a better fit for the Intermediate category. I have a sneaking suspicion/impression: Are these personal friends?
@TristanSpohnAKASpiderman Okay doubling up my comment, cause I can't listen to any more of the Ai anti-insight. Tristan, you are 100% correct wrt "Ai could never replicate this acting." IF and ONLY IF you add, "right now" to the end of the statement. Remember, right now, as it stands, this is the worst Ai will EVER be (bar catastophic event etc/loopholes). And the past 3 years do you know what has been the cutting edge focus of all the money in Ai? It's not acting or even image/video format. The #1 focus for the billions in Ai research, govs, and tech/professionals is improving Ai's ability to A. CODE B. Predict financial markets. That's it. Maybe you can add an additional letter, C. For political influence, but video and acting is waaaay down the list. Once the above objectives are achieved and video becomes more industry valued, I will bet you $50k that Ai will not only be able to replicate the best actors today and of the past, but be able to improve upon their work.
I've also noticed this weird thing in AI videos in this one AI ad that keeps playing where often their resting face is a full toothy smile. They train off posed photos so they don't really have an rbf resting face, or even a resting smile, just a full picture-day smile in resting beats
@vikingshark2634 The Will Smith spaghetti video wasn't impressive, but it was hilarious. My sides hurt after the first time I saw that, and I'm trying not to laugh just thinking about it.
We should really just be worried about when AI starts fixing these problems itself. It will get to a point where it is just coding itself and we wont have control anymore... but what will be its motivations?
I thought the beginning actor was better than the intermediate actors. Madeline was awesome. Madeline's partner was awful and swirly. The Oscar duo only seemed the best because they were on an actual set and working together, not just because of their better acting. Madeline was the best overall in my opinion.
@Adelicows , agree about the set comment. The final take in a movie in a realistic looking setting helps a lot vs. just standing in a non-descript room. Yep, everything that gets put into movies matters. But, I still think Brad and Claire did the best acting too.
It wouldn't matter to me. The way actors are these days, I have chronic fatigue of their drama. I'll give AI a chance, it's only gonna get better. Live actors can still do theater. It is what it is, good luck.
@Adelicowsfunnily enough i found her the worst😅. I felt like her emotions were more of a stereotype of that emotion rather than what i would expect to see from a real person. Still a great actor! A lit better than me😅
@TedEhioghae ACTOR*** "Most female actors today prefer to be called actors rather than actresses, as "actor" is a gender-neutral term that aligns with other professions and promotes equality."
@Arkzinoxwho cares about your feminist misandrist bull crapola. Women have been demonizing men for decades and gynocentric men are cowardly traitors and I’d go out of my way to not support them so I’m certain sky not going out of my way to support them. Men already have it harder they work harder jobs are falsely accused by women left and right get harsher sentences for same crimes and women already have soooo much privilege in the west. We’re getting fired being told it’s because they want to hire more women, women have run every major guy movie franchise into the ground and made it about them dissing guys. You don’t care about justice you care about the agenda of gynocentricism. It’s immoral it’s amoral it’s a useful lie for women to justify their unearned gains. You want equality than fight for men to have equal rights in court over their kids and to not have to be slaves to women financially even when they aren’t married anymore, have women eligible for the draft because they can vote and voting rights are supposed to come with draft eligibility and yet women as always are protected and men aren’t. Men do the work, women get the credit. Men fight the wars women get the month celebrating them for no reason. We do need quality, men need to finally be treated equally to women. Down with the matriarchy, down with gynocentrism. Keep believing brothers, wherever you are your day will come the truth will be seen and the tyranny disguised as humanitarianism will end.
@anon_y_mousse for now, remember a year ago we barely even had AI video, and voiced AI videos only really happened with Veo 3, before that it was excruciatingly slow getting voice. So at this rate of progress, I'd give it another year or two before it nails Oscar level. And I am not being optimistic here, its just Moores law.
@marcozolo3536 Truthfully, seeing that video, I think you're being pessimistic more than optimistic, but seeing what's happened to the entertainment industry in the past 10 years, I might be looking forward to such a future.
That's what people fail extremely hard to understand here, Ai is a ever evolving technology that will drastically improve over time. It's like a human starting any new skill, yes they suck ass compared to a pro, but with enough practice and learning they will become at pro level over time. Ai is in the learning phase, and it's learning way faster compared to any human could ever learn.
Brad Pitt's smile actually was what made it seem real to me. Facial movements showing emotions without words tend to seem more natural than the blank stare of the A.I. just watch one of Clint Eastwood's westerns, he hardly says a thing but acts with his eyes for the most part.
And his partner's response during that one part where her eyes got serious because she realized she liked him -> THAT part said so much. Helps that she was beautiful, but still. Great acting with the eyes.
Unforgiven! An acting masterclass, not only from Clint, but all of the other actors as well. Choosing Clint for your example couldn't have been more perfect! The scene where the girl is telling him about what happened to Ned... Clint doesn't say a word the entire time, and yet everything he does is riveting and loaded with expression.
The Wire scene where 2 detectives re-examine an old homicide. They way they use only 1 word yet convey such a rich wide variation of meanings with depths and nuance. I shudder to think how AI would murder that whole scene!
One big difference between the original scene and the versions of the other human actors that can’t be ignored is that the original actors played together physically in the same space. Obviously it’s much easier to have a believable looking interaction if you can directly play off the responses from the other actor instead of responding to someone on a screen.
They understood the script. While this fool just reads lines. You think Brad Pitt didn't understand he was literally playing Death and to behave in such a manner.
True... I don't even know what's it like "to look into person's eyes". Like. Do I focus on the left eye or the right eye?.. Usually when I really concentrate on the person I loot AT their face, not INTO their eyes.
I actually didn’t like the intermediate as much as the beginner one. It felt like they were very aware that they were acting. And the way they kept looking to the side felt like they were trying to remember their lines. The beginner actually felt like he was just actually reacting to the lines.
@jenn4593the beginner looked most honest and natural for the subject matter they were discussing. Also, consider that those on the spectrum often avoid eye contact.
they were looking to the side to make it seem more real, yk how when u talk to some people and they refuse to make eye contact until you just start staring into there eyes, making it very obvious you're looking in their eyes, then they finally do it back... yeah, but at the same time, the beginners looked good too cuz he looked like he was trying to be nonchalant and calm
12:22 Don't you hate it when you're having a conversation with the guy you have a crush on, and then he magically transforms into another man? Happened to me last week.
Yeah the progblem is most beginners are also too shy to really put the emotion behind what they say as well. Most need to let go of that tension of worrying about if they are over or under acting and just picture themselves going through something similar and be themselves. Also when you have someone very talented it stretches your own abilities to match them
Right. They started playing the music with Oscar winners, and the music helped set the mood more and transfer you more into the scene. Also the natural background noises made it feel more realistic.
Omg that is so funny haha. The ring light felt like a flashlight at 2 am. In some of the takes I actually started getting tears in my eyes. Crying during a flirting scene would definitely be a “choice”.
@IsabellNesbit I can't speak on the subject of light causing tears, but I was doing my first extra's job recently and there was one section where the camera panned past my face reasonably close, and I cannot tell you why but every single time shooting started, my right eye began to water profusely. I'm honestly surprised I was never questioned on it because I definitely think there's a chance it was obvious enough to be caught on camera. It was arguably fitting, but may also appear strange in the final product.
@DanielLovesArtCongratulations on the extra’s job! Yeah, that happens to me too. That’s probably just stress. Body goes into adrenaline mode and you blink less - causing dry eyes and more tears☺️
80% of what is conveyed between two people is non-verbal. It's not what you say it's the body language that speak volumes and then what is said is just for clarification.
8:18 the creepy thing about AI is that it definitely is one of your students too, in a way. It's watching all your videos without understanding them, but some of it will seep in.
@TheUltimateGeminiHasSurvived hes tryna say tht ai copies information on the internet to use and remix with other videos/art/text etc and so ai is basically also learning from him like his students
ah yes I forgot this video is about critiquing beginner actors what's that? It's not? it's about critiquing AI slop and showing the rough averages for each level relative to AI? oh that makes more sense
The AI also keeps looking at the camera multiple times, which is weird because it's the one instance of all of these where there is no actual camera. An AI actor can also never age and improve with experience, or disappear into a role after immersing themselves in the subject. It's trained on everything, which means it can only reproduce the average performance. It'll always rely on cliches.
Ai just feels so weird, they know what they're about to say and you can tell, but then they wait to reply and it sounds like the exposition of a movie about a serial killer or smth
Because serial killers are mostly psychopaths, and AI comparing to real people is a psychopath as well- no feelings, just wishes (in AI case it's what it's programmed to achieve). No real empathy, just masking. So I think your comparison is great!
People who say "Ai could "NEVER" do" are morons, because it's already proven that people can't tell the difference between AI art vs professional Human drawn art. If you take concept art for lets say a new movie or video game and put AI side by side by a human artist they cant tell the difference in most cases or they get a lucky guess. If AI can get to the same destination as a human drawing, there is no reason to waste so much time and money to pay a human. I'd say humans will still be needed by on a drastically smaller scale.
@Arkzinox100% and a couple years ago I couldn't even imagine AI to make coherent movie scenes like these. Give it a couple more years and it will get those quirky human interactions right.
@johnkowalsky1988 For at least a decade I've been saying that it's only a matter of time before we just use AI to prompt our own movies and video games that we want to watch/play and keep changing the prompt until we get it perfect just creating the exact experience we want. It keeps getting closer and closer.
Brad Pitt 'threw away' the 'Lightning could strike' because (I think) it was a callback to something Claire's father told her before he died. Making 'lightning could strike' in this context intentional and having him wait for a reaction would have been kind of creepy.
ahh never seen the movie so looked this up, and you're right, but in the context of the movie's script. Susan Parrish, the character played by Claire, was the one whose father said that to her (in the script) earlier in the movie, so Joe Black, Brad Pitt's character, said the line "lightning could strike" to get that romance-spooked reaction out of Susan (not Claire) because her father had said the exact same thing in the same context.
Yes, Anthony Hopkins plays her father who notices his daughter, Claire, was dating a man she had "no whisper of a thrill." Basically, he didn't see her eyes light up with this man, and encouraged her to listen to her heart and not her head, "who knows, lightening may strike." Then a few scenes later, Pitt says the same thing and shocks her for a moment.
I'm not an actor. And every single line Brad Pitt delivers in this scene is delivered in a way that is so different from how my own instincts would have me deliver the line. And his choices were of course way better than mine.
I was expecting so much out of the pro performance. But performing that scene on the same level as intermediates and then 30 seconds later plugging his actor training and mentorship program was peak comedy.
So true. Not a producer but I do have a degree in film with a specialty for cinematography and an currently studying animation after falling in love with the medium. There are too many people who think acting is easy, but can't act a lick of salt. The beginner is already better than the average person.
I think what all of u guys missed is the sort of awkwardness and coyness/shyness of a conversation like this with a stranger. All of u were way too bold while there was a sense of playfulness with them that wasn’t too confident. It was taken as a silly conversation bc they JUST MET
Personally I thought Kaden was pretty on par for a beginner. But as for the ‘intermediate’ and ‘professional’ actors, Tristan is the only one who can act.
In the thumbnail notice: The actor picture on the right has diffuse overhead light, looks natural. The AI on the left has light coming from the back, hitting both shoulders, light on top of each shoulder. The head, then, should be similarly lit. But the hair on the viewer’s left shows light coming from the upper left, as if unseen from beyond the left corner. Look at the hair to viewer’s right. Only the back has a streak of illumination. If the light were coming from the back as for the shoulders that same light would illuminate the hair in a pattern similar to the shoulders. Hair and shoulders so close together, light from the back should create the same effect. Instead, greater highlights are on one side. The evenness of the effects of light in the actor image on the right are striking by contrast. AI can’t do highlights and shadows correctly. Yet.
Honestly, I thought they were all pretty bad until the actual movie clip. Everyone looked like they were trying far too hard, seeming too conscious of themselves and their speech and behavior versus just embodying the characters. This actually made me really appreciate the skills of the "Oscar winners"!
I am not sure how many takes everyone got, but Brad Pitt had rehearsal and a couple of takes, so a scene usually gets better with repitition? And they were in the same room (unlike everyone before them). Your partner's energy matters so much.
I used to do plays and took acting classes and it is surprisingly hard to act like movie quality acting. Acting in plays is a little more forgiving though because it’s meant to be less subtle. I don’t think I’d ever be a great movie/TV actor, much props to those who are good at it.
@DanDCool😂 like Fernando Pessoa data about the poets? O poeta è un fingidor Finge tão completamente Que chega a fingir que é dor A dor que deveras sente
True. And that was what I wanted to show with my work…how my version would be completely different. Which shows the value of hiring the right actor. I would definitely not be a great fit for this character naturally.
The AI gives me an uncanny valley feeling. The interactions feel stiff and ... devoid of real emotion. And after watching all the others it just seems a thousand times worse haha. I didnt mind the intermediate acting at all, and I liked your delivery of the line "because I like you so much."
The AI has the same issue any AI generated material has: No one cared at all. The actors aren't capable of caring about the scene because they aren't real. The cameraman and the director have the same problem. One could argue that the prompter cared, but if your desire to make a movie ends at "Willing to write a prompt and wait a while for it to be generated" then I don't think anyone will care to watch your movie. I'll take bad acting from real humans any day over AI.
Really? I don’t care either way. The cartoons in cartoons and anime aren’t real either and people care tons about those characters. If the acting is good by AI then we can do away with actors and just rely on AI
@criert135 the difference is that cartoon/anime characters are directed and animated in the same way, by humans and not ai. you do you and watch what you want
@encorestudies And AI characters will be directed. Incredibly detailed and complex prompts would be used to direct AI of this kind. It’s simply giving us another incredible advancement in the technology for creating art.
@criert135 you miss their point. The people who make the anime cares about the anime, they casted about the actor, the actors behind the characters care about the delivery, the artists, the musicians, they all care. Everything they said aplies to anime too.
Yeah. That's what I saw too. That little eyes wide flash, creating a strike of his own, unwired her for a second and reset the whole landscape of possibilities.
Good call. He's just emphasizing what he's saying, playfully suggesting that what he is saying has gravitas (like lightning itself), suggesting that it could be something profound--a great love that could change your life. People do that sort of thing all the time. But, who else would think to emote in that way while delivering lines as an actor? That's good stuff that really makes it feel like it's real flirting.
The beginner, intermediate and professional were playing to a camera/video link which left no room for interaction. Can't be compared to their actually talent if they were actually interacting on a set.
As a layperson that doesn't know anything about acting, I found the Oscar winner scene so easy to "digest" and follow along. If I may - perhaps the other scenes had a lot more going on, more busy. But I guess this is why they are Oscar winners.
I dunno.. I know the scene was done remotely, but Matteo's delivery feels like it's off to me. I actually preferred the Beginner's version of what he said at the door, because while less romantic, it felt more natural!
You should break down the "assassins visit the house" scene in The Bourne Legacy. Rachel Weisz puts on an absolute clinic in how to modulate a scene's tone, speed, and intensity -- exactly the stock-chart variability you're talking about. She completely elevates the film.
There was a time when acting was an idea that kept me restless; and I began my pursuit which was, without regret, short lived. I did theatre mostly and watching you analyze and describe the content of a scene as well as the actor's delivery, reminds me of some of the best directors I worked with. I think you are a great actor, but I know, without an ounce of a doubt, that you will be a great director some day and I hope I get to enjoy the shapes and colors of your creative mind on set and stage.
There was so much tension during the "confession" moment between Brad and Claire, you can actually feel it. Like some kind of suspense that makes you worried about how each character is going to reply to the other's insinuation.
I spent two years in the 'respected' Tufts University Theater Program in the 80's before I dropped out. Why? You just taught me more about acting in 12 minutes than they did in two years. True Fact: Too many of the actors were so impressed with themselves, when really, my High School acting friends had quadruple the talent. When I could no longer handle these Prima Donnas, I was taking one last look in the Green Room and the only actor I thought had talent was standing there enjoying an apple. I told him I couldn't take it anymore, but that YOU SIR will go places. That was Hank Azaria. Been dying to meet him again and say, "I told you so."
I love how everything he described about the AI is literally how stage actors perform lol I know stage is a big difference from film, but he indirectly dissed the typical stage actor (Broadway stars included).
Debatable. He was pretty good playing Diner Guy (No seriously, I tried to look up the credits what his name was before. Death took his body, and he donned the name Joe. But there really is no answer.), but I just didn’t buy him playing Death/Joe. I’d argue that the original film, Death takes a Holiday, Fredric March plays Death far better. By all means not a good film either, I’d actually would rather say it’s somewhat of a better film.
@DohItAll What do you mean "How"? The action in Matrix is regarded by a lot of people to be top tier yet in that clip Neo and Agent Smith's fight looks so silly. Agent Smith was telegraphing his punches from a mile away
You keep telling yourself that. Two years ago artists claim they were safe because AI could not do hands. When in relaity AI suck at hands because THEY the artists sucked on hands. As soon as you give it real data of real people, better epochs and compute then bam. Hands looking pretty good and if it is a bit off just inpaint and press gen again. Ya'll need to stop coping. AI isn't going to stay how it is. It will continue to grow and grow and grow and it will end every job you think that makes you a specials human.
When people say that I don't think they misunderstand IA, but they misunderstand feelings. Feelings are that ungraspable thing just because we try to understand it with a brain that is made of the same fabric as the feelings themselves. But in reality it's just a brain, a very complex machine that produces reactions in other parts of the brain and outer reactions that people can see. All of that an AI will be able to do better and better. By they way you never see people's actual feelings but only their way of showing them. If it is perfectly impersonated, then what difference does it even make?
you're not on as firm of ground as you think you are when thinking about feelings and consciousness and stuff lol the reality is that you can't even be sure that *other humans* are conveying things with true feeling. It's the philosophical zombie problem and solipsism. Social interactions are just action-reaction, AI is absolutely going to be able to emulate that one day, and it will be as convincing as seeing a human being doing it, because you have no connection to the inner workings of a human being's consciousness in exactly the same way that you have no connection to the inner workings of AI.
Camera placement on Madaline messed with the read for me. Her chin being turned up from the camera with addition of her body turned away, it makes her look judgemental instead of showing any vulnerability to you.
I may have been heavily influenced by the fact that he said she was on something called "FBI" but I just kept thinking 'cop' the whole time. Like she was trying to catch him slipping, but not in a flirty way. The interesting thing is that that kind of character would have actually been more intriguing to me than the seemingly generic love interest girl I'm seeing in the clip for "Meet Joe Black" (which I've never seen).
10:48 "innocent and nerdy" :) Yeah, I picked up on that when I watched it. :) I'm not really into acting and came across this video because I was looking into AI but this is really interesting. I've always believed that I would have been a good actor but maybe everyone thinks that about myself. I have no regrets about not pursuing it because I really LOVED engineering, but sometimes I wonder if I should look into it just for fun ... like a lot of other things I enjoy. Thanks for the video, it was very interesting.
Brad Pitt's delivery was so human because he is a human having a human experience. AI can't deliver a human experience because it's not human. It can copy all it wants, but it has no instinct. I really wish AI "art" advocates would acknowledge this basic fact. Until and unless they do, AI "art" will always feel one-dimensional and clownish.
I agree. I don't hate AI the way many people do. I don't even hate generative AI. But it's important to have a clear picture of what AI is and what it isn't. A lot of advocates imagine AI to be "magical" or a living being, when it's clearly not. It can be an awesome tool, but at the end of the day, it's just a tool with both capabilities and limitations.
Went into this thinking it'd be someone glazing AI replacing actors; came out seeing a true appreciation for real human art. Love this. Massive W. Did subscribe.
You say it can't seem to be imitated based on the results of nascent technology. Don't be absurd. How about come back to this in 10 years, then you might have grounds to start a debate. What you're doing right now is akin to someone in the mid-90's looking at what the Internet was and thinking to herself, "yeah, this technology has no chance to ever be worth anyone spending significant time on it. More than likely, it's just a passing fad that we'll forget about in 10 years." It just makes no sense to assume that the tech has hit its ceiling, especially since there's virtually never been a technology in human history that peaked within its first five years of existence.
While you're not wrong, people who leave comments like, "imagine how this will look in 10 years" make an incorrect assumption that generative AI will develop at a linear or exponential rate, and not a series of quickly diminishing returns. With video, machine learning tools will affect and make more efficient existing workflows in VFX etc, but text-to-video is creatively limiting as a means of getting pixels on a screen. It's just plain easier to put a human in front of a camera than it is to type 70,000 prompts.
2:04 keep in mind also this looks like a movie you seen this is why visually it looks ok because there are literally hundreds of movies an TV shows like this to rip off, the second you put them in an unusual place the "acting" gets worse
Right, and she even has one of those circle lights! 😁 Though Pitt's timing & cadence is still top. I always thought Depp and Bale are at the top of their game also. Pretty cool how all 3 can play such a wide variety of characters! Even physically with Bale, maybe The Prestige had an impact! 🤔 Depp really shines with those "far out there characters" that can be hard, like Jack Sparrow. Sure wish I could act. I just don't have the focus in that kind of setting.
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Stop treating male words as unisex.
If a woman can be an Actor, then a man can be an Actress.
Stop making it always one sided.
@TedEhioghae unnecessary anger 🙏
@CyberDystopian Makes no sense.
@JenniferSmallwood-b1b literally how
There is very few things as frustrating as ppl that state their opinions as if they are facts. But thank you for opinion on 'good' acting, u must've received your Oscar some time ago lol
In my defense, my scene partner was a door handle
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😂😂, batteries taped to the doorframe were our usual scene study partners. Keep going Kaden, you did great. Can't wait to see where this takes you. 🎉🎉🎉Hweiting!
Yes, I could tell you didn't actually have a scene partner, and I also thought you were more natural than the pair of intermediate actors.
Yeah, but that door handle was selling the shit out of being a human! Also, just FYI, I thought you did well.
I guess you meet her every day, and your approach worked the best!
the beginner with the door handle was already miles ahead of the AI.
He was better than all the others tbh. "Intermediate actors" were on the same level as AI, very bad.
Keep telling yourself that. You are just mad AI will take your replaceable ahh fake acting slop job
@joao-men fr
The thing is the AI was probably programmed to look fake. If they wanted to, they could make AI act way better, but they have to give us that stuff gradually or we will shun it right away.
@joao-men keep huffing that copium buddy
Why does it feel like the Ai actors never met eye to eye
Same, that was the immediate thing I noticed.
Because... they didn't. They don't have actual eyes! 😉
There is no soul behind those deceiving eyes
they dont have eyes
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The no experience guy was actually pretty good! :D
Way better than most beginners, he has real raw talent!
All these tiny details showed me why some scenes really stick with you for years not knowing exactly why, but you just know they're good.
Speaking of scenes that stick with you forever, many of Al Pacino's scenes are sticky.
Yes! Absolutely agree! The “We accept the love we think we deserve.” Scene from Perks of Being a Wallflower pops up in my brain now and again.
@TristanSpohnAKASpiderman world love to see analysis of why some scenes don't work - and become famous and sticky nevertheless. Interstellar' "Love" monolog in particular. I'd tune in for that!
(PS considering the topic of this video, I'd better add that humans can type em dashes 😊)
@TristanSpohnAKASpiderman I'm very surprised your score and comments for the "Intermediate Actor" take.
#1 That "sparkle" my dear, is called, FaceTune, and needs to be parred down by 50% or removed all together. It is hindering as a distraction. It contrasts given the side by side with an actor not using the same filter/filter-magnitude, reduces microexpression visibility relevant for an up close (Ex: Under-eye wrinkling has been completely erased), and most of all: SHE DOESN"T NEED IT! (I hope it's not switched on for auditions.)
#2 Given this was not live recorded, I know this was not their first take, so if this is _their best_ take there shouldn't be: A. 3:56 Aggressive head motion B. 3:58 Laughs while taking a deep breath after half a sentence (causes her to laugh slightly, she recovers well though). After your cut away, she definitely stole the show respectively and a better fit for the Intermediate category.
I have a sneaking suspicion/impression: Are these personal friends?
@TristanSpohnAKASpiderman Okay doubling up my comment, cause I can't listen to any more of the Ai anti-insight.
Tristan, you are 100% correct wrt "Ai could never replicate this acting." IF and ONLY IF you add, "right now" to the end of the statement.
Remember, right now, as it stands, this is the worst Ai will EVER be (bar catastophic event etc/loopholes). And the past 3 years do you know what has been the cutting edge focus of all the money in Ai? It's not acting or even image/video format. The #1 focus for the billions in Ai research, govs, and tech/professionals is improving Ai's ability to A. CODE B. Predict financial markets. That's it. Maybe you can add an additional letter, C. For political influence, but video and acting is waaaay down the list.
Once the above objectives are achieved and video becomes more industry valued, I will bet you $50k that Ai will not only be able to replicate the best actors today and of the past, but be able to improve upon their work.
I've also noticed this weird thing in AI videos in this one AI ad that keeps playing where often their resting face is a full toothy smile. They train off posed photos so they don't really have an rbf resting face, or even a resting smile, just a full picture-day smile in resting beats
That, combined with speech patterns that sound like they were learned from YT videos created by practiced influencers selling a message. Or a product.
We are still in the baby phase of Ai, trust me when I say this, that will all be fixed to perfection as time goes by.
@Arkzinox Right? Remember how impressed we were with Nicolas Cage deepfakes and Will Smith eating spaghetti five whole years ago?
@vikingshark2634 The Will Smith spaghetti video wasn't impressive, but it was hilarious. My sides hurt after the first time I saw that, and I'm trying not to laugh just thinking about it.
We should really just be worried about when AI starts fixing these problems itself. It will get to a point where it is just coding itself and we wont have control anymore... but what will be its motivations?
Intermediate actors look like the training videos you have to watch at work.
I thought the beginning actor was better than the intermediate actors. Madeline was awesome. Madeline's partner was awful and swirly.
The Oscar duo only seemed the best because they were on an actual set and working together, not just because of their better acting.
Madeline was the best overall in my opinion.
@Adelicows , agree about the set comment. The final take in a movie in a realistic looking setting helps a lot vs. just standing in a non-descript room. Yep, everything that gets put into movies matters. But, I still think Brad and Claire did the best acting too.
It wouldn't matter to me. The way actors are these days, I have chronic fatigue of their drama. I'll give AI a chance, it's only gonna get better. Live actors can still do theater. It is what it is, good luck.
@prussian17420/10 ragebait
@Adelicowsfunnily enough i found her the worst😅. I felt like her emotions were more of a stereotype of that emotion rather than what i would expect to see from a real person. Still a great actor! A lit better than me😅
the first AI guy has a jim halpert haircut
Also the movie actors are moving a lot and doing something which I think making the scene more dynamic
actresses*
@TedEhioghae ACTOR***
"Most female actors today prefer to be called actors rather than actresses, as "actor" is a gender-neutral term that aligns with other professions and promotes equality."
@Arkzinox This ain’t 2016 anymore bud…
You can prompt them to do that though.
@Arkzinoxwho cares about your feminist misandrist bull crapola. Women have been demonizing men for decades and gynocentric men are cowardly traitors and I’d go out of my way to not support them so I’m certain sky not going out of my way to support them. Men already have it harder they work harder jobs are falsely accused by women left and right get harsher sentences for same crimes and women already have soooo much privilege in the west. We’re getting fired being told it’s because they want to hire more women, women have run every major guy movie franchise into the ground and made it about them dissing guys.
You don’t care about justice you care about the agenda of gynocentricism. It’s immoral it’s amoral it’s a useful lie for women to justify their unearned gains. You want equality than fight for men to have equal rights in court over their kids and to not have to be slaves to women financially even when they aren’t married anymore, have women eligible for the draft because they can vote and voting rights are supposed to come with draft eligibility and yet women as always are protected and men aren’t. Men do the work, women get the credit. Men fight the wars women get the month celebrating them for no reason.
We do need quality, men need to finally be treated equally to women. Down with the matriarchy, down with gynocentrism. Keep believing brothers, wherever you are your day will come the truth will be seen and the tyranny disguised as humanitarianism will end.
So basically AI is now at Lifetime movie level acting.
Specifically bad Lifetime movie. I've seen some that were better acted than this, it's just that most are terrible.
@anon_y_mousse for now, remember a year ago we barely even had AI video, and voiced AI videos only really happened with Veo 3, before that it was excruciatingly slow getting voice. So at this rate of progress, I'd give it another year or two before it nails Oscar level. And I am not being optimistic here, its just Moores law.
@marcozolo3536 Truthfully, seeing that video, I think you're being pessimistic more than optimistic, but seeing what's happened to the entertainment industry in the past 10 years, I might be looking forward to such a future.
It has come along quickly since Will Smith eating spaghetti. It will be able to act in a few years, good lifetime movie or better.
Lifetime is still a step up from peacock n Netflix or anything this world renowned 'proffesional' has ever been in lool
Ai be taking notes😭
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I thought the same 😂 😅👀😬😶🌫️
Don't let them! 😭
That's what people fail extremely hard to understand here, Ai is a ever evolving technology that will drastically improve over time. It's like a human starting any new skill, yes they suck ass compared to a pro, but with enough practice and learning they will become at pro level over time. Ai is in the learning phase, and it's learning way faster compared to any human could ever learn.
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the part where he gets abruptly ran over after all that buildup was the most unintentionally funny thing i've ever seen in a movie
Brad Pitt's smile actually was what made it seem real to me. Facial movements showing emotions without words tend to seem more natural than the blank stare of the A.I. just watch one of Clint Eastwood's westerns, he hardly says a thing but acts with his eyes for the most part.
this is an important point
And his partner's response during that one part where her eyes got serious because she realized she liked him -> THAT part said so much. Helps that she was beautiful, but still. Great acting with the eyes.
Unforgiven! An acting masterclass, not only from Clint, but all of the other actors as well. Choosing Clint for your example couldn't have been more perfect! The scene where the girl is telling him about what happened to Ned... Clint doesn't say a word the entire time, and yet everything he does is riveting and loaded with expression.
The Wire scene where 2 detectives re-examine an old homicide.
They way they use only 1 word yet convey such a rich wide variation of meanings with depths and nuance.
I shudder to think how AI would murder that whole scene!
My demo reel is better than any AI generated video: ruclips.net/video/OFZfrwoBl90/video.html
1:42 AI is giving "KAL-EL NO" typa acting
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It's straight up The Room level of acting 😂
@hawkins347have you even seen The Room
@RealStoriesBank I mean Tommy Wiseau's The Room, obviously
@hawkins347why do you look like a computer model
One big difference between the original scene and the versions of the other human actors that can’t be ignored is that the original actors played together physically in the same space. Obviously it’s much easier to have a believable looking interaction if you can directly play off the responses from the other actor instead of responding to someone on a screen.
Well, sure but as he said the professional and oscar lvl actors relied less on what is said, and relied more on the feelings they convey when said.
Also, perfect lighting, clean sound, background score, makeup, etc....making it far more easy to suspend disbelief and become absorbed in the scene.
They understood the script.
While this fool just reads lines.
You think Brad Pitt didn't understand he was literally playing Death and to behave in such a manner.
5:40 the AI's are so awkward its hillarious
3:08 to be fair some do look everywhere except the person we are talking to irl 😅
People get creeped out when I look them in the eyes. It feels like I'm stealing their secrets. (So I've been told).
Precisely!
I found the beginner to be very natural.
Exactly! Especially nowadays but in a screen it looks awkward and unfocused
@TheStepmonkeyits kind of weird the way things are filmed that make things feel more natural come off as uncanny irl 😅
True... I don't even know what's it like "to look into person's eyes". Like. Do I focus on the left eye or the right eye?..
Usually when I really concentrate on the person I loot AT their face, not INTO their eyes.
I actually didn’t like the intermediate as much as the beginner one. It felt like they were very aware that they were acting. And the way they kept looking to the side felt like they were trying to remember their lines. The beginner actually felt like he was just actually reacting to the lines.
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The beginner guy and Tristan were best out of all of them, aside from the Oscar winners.
@jenn4593the beginner looked most honest and natural for the subject matter they were discussing. Also, consider that those on the spectrum often avoid eye contact.
@jenn4593 exactly
they were looking to the side to make it seem more real, yk how when u talk to some people and they refuse to make eye contact until you just start staring into there eyes, making it very obvious you're looking in their eyes, then they finally do it back... yeah, but at the same time, the beginners looked good too cuz he looked like he was trying to be nonchalant and calm
12:22 Don't you hate it when you're having a conversation with the guy you have a crush on, and then he magically transforms into another man? Happened to me last week.
😂😂😂
It happens a lot!
@hvalanebesam1226 A whole lot! My mother warned me about it, and I should've listened. Tsk, tsk...
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Damn im pissed off now
I'm - for sure - not over here trying to act like i'm not acting these same lines out lol
wow it's cool to see the difference. It's just crazy how we see such high level actors so often we come numb to the talent and hardwork it comes from.
Yeah the progblem is most beginners are also too shy to really put the emotion behind what they say as well. Most need to let go of that tension of worrying about if they are over or under acting and just picture themselves going through something similar and be themselves. Also when you have someone very talented it stretches your own abilities to match them
Yes. Acting has progressed so much over the years. It’s painful watching actors before around 1950.
I want Tristan to react to famously shitty acting in movies and tell us what makes it so bad.
Hahaha I always thought it would be fun to try to recreate scenes from The Room and see if it’s possible to do good acting for a terrible script.
@TristanSpohnAKASpidermanOmg you should def do that!😂
This AI actor is practically Brando compared to Jean Claude Van Damme's acting. 😂
@TristanSpohnAKASpiderman That's such a good concept for a video
@TristanSpohnAKASpidermanomg Yes!!! 😂
we should point out that the quality of lighting and especially the audio has a HUGE impact on being convincing. HUGE.
Right. They started playing the music with Oscar winners, and the music helped set the mood more and transfer you more into the scene. Also the natural background noises made it feel more realistic.
Ich mag die Idee mit den Vergleichen
"There's this little sparkle that makes it seem more romantic than platonic"
That's a ring light.
Lol she was also doing a bit of the butterfly lashes flirty blink
Omg that is so funny haha. The ring light felt like a flashlight at 2 am. In some of the takes I actually started getting tears in my eyes. Crying during a flirting scene would definitely be a “choice”.
@IsabellNesbit I can't speak on the subject of light causing tears, but I was doing my first extra's job recently and there was one section where the camera panned past my face reasonably close, and I cannot tell you why but every single time shooting started, my right eye began to water profusely. I'm honestly surprised I was never questioned on it because I definitely think there's a chance it was obvious enough to be caught on camera. It was arguably fitting, but may also appear strange in the final product.
@DanielLovesArtCongratulations on the extra’s job! Yeah, that happens to me too. That’s probably just stress. Body goes into adrenaline mode and you blink less - causing dry eyes and more tears☺️
@IsabellNesbit you're deeply sad because your prince has appeared, and he's death.
It is mind blowing how the award winning actors can relay a story line without any context so well.
it's called subtext
@MissStrawberryGunYeah, I know what subtext is, just like the vast majority of people.
@A.M.0000 🎉
80% of what is conveyed between two people is non-verbal. It's not what you say it's the body language that speak volumes and then what is said is just for clarification.
@mburch5680 That is really interesting, thank you for sharing!
I never thought of it like that. But I'm possibly autistic 😅
Their body language was so next level in pitt's scene.
Their.
@zaco-km3su happy?
"Pitt" is capitalized, just as your real name is.
@robertveith6383 are you gen X or an English teacher?
her eyes were amazingly expressive.
Its not there yet.... you can tell they're AI.
I have so much respect for good/great acting. That ability to let the audience forget they’re watching a movie and not real life is amazing
The acting in 6:16 was the best...
6:57 Her body language is completely wrong for the scene. Also the first guy didn't seem like he actually had a scene partner.
Yeah, I really didn't like her acting/portrayal
She was just condescending as fuck. zero acting
hard agree. It's funny that the one of both the OP and their partner actually came off worse
I totally agree
Yes!!! Exactly correct. Same thing I suggested.
8:18 the creepy thing about AI is that it definitely is one of your students too, in a way. It's watching all your videos without understanding them, but some of it will seep in.
AI/LLMs dont know anything
What is this guy when saying
@TheUltimateGeminiHasSurvived hes tryna say tht ai copies information on the internet to use and remix with other videos/art/text etc and so ai is basically also learning from him like his students
@u.ser456 That’s not sad at all. Thats actually a good thing!!
AI woman looked at the camera gng 🥀
11:38 her body is showing she wants to stay and her face is saying “give me a reason to stay”
YES! Claire was honestly my favorite.
4:19 this ain't fair though? Kaden didn't even have a partner to bounce energy of? You can't judge scenes based on different premises bro 😒
I think he did great.
ah yes I forgot this video is about critiquing beginner actors
what's that? It's not? it's about critiquing AI slop and showing the rough averages for each level relative to AI? oh that makes more sense
The AI also keeps looking at the camera multiple times, which is weird because it's the one instance of all of these where there is no actual camera. An AI actor can also never age and improve with experience, or disappear into a role after immersing themselves in the subject. It's trained on everything, which means it can only reproduce the average performance. It'll always rely on cliches.
if you write the prompt making AI to do all those mistakes, then SURPRISE! it will do those mistakes...
Ai just feels so weird, they know what they're about to say and you can tell, but then they wait to reply and it sounds like the exposition of a movie about a serial killer or smth
Because serial killers are mostly psychopaths, and AI comparing to real people is a psychopath as well- no feelings, just wishes (in AI case it's what it's programmed to achieve). No real empathy, just masking. So I think your comparison is great!
"AI could never do that..." Just wait until it enrolls in your class and learns more.
People who say "Ai could "NEVER" do" are morons, because it's already proven that people can't tell the difference between AI art vs professional Human drawn art. If you take concept art for lets say a new movie or video game and put AI side by side by a human artist they cant tell the difference in most cases or they get a lucky guess. If AI can get to the same destination as a human drawing, there is no reason to waste so much time and money to pay a human. I'd say humans will still be needed by on a drastically smaller scale.
@Arkzinox100% and a couple years ago I couldn't even imagine AI to make coherent movie scenes like these.
Give it a couple more years and it will get those quirky human interactions right.
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@johnkowalsky1988 For at least a decade I've been saying that it's only a matter of time before we just use AI to prompt our own movies and video games that we want to watch/play and keep changing the prompt until we get it perfect just creating the exact experience we want. It keeps getting closer and closer.
@Arkzinox AI could never do a pull-up.
Brad Pitt 'threw away' the 'Lightning could strike' because (I think) it was a callback to something Claire's father told her before he died. Making 'lightning could strike' in this context intentional and having him wait for a reaction would have been kind of creepy.
He was still alive.
Sweet oh Good point it's supposed to make her puzzled - 'Wow wonder where this guy had heard that before!?'
@pcell777 Oh yeah I forgot at this point in the movie he hadn't started wearing the black suit yet. I guess it was just supposed to be ...serendipity.
ahh never seen the movie so looked this up, and you're right, but in the context of the movie's script. Susan Parrish, the character played by Claire, was the one whose father said that to her (in the script) earlier in the movie, so Joe Black, Brad Pitt's character, said the line "lightning could strike" to get that romance-spooked reaction out of Susan (not Claire) because her father had said the exact same thing in the same context.
Yes, Anthony Hopkins plays her father who notices his daughter, Claire, was dating a man she had "no whisper of a thrill." Basically, he didn't see her eyes light up with this man, and encouraged her to listen to her heart and not her head, "who knows, lightening may strike." Then a few scenes later, Pitt says the same thing and shocks her for a moment.
I'm not an actor. And every single line Brad Pitt delivers in this scene is delivered in a way that is so different from how my own instincts would have me deliver the line. And his choices were of course way better than mine.
I deliver every line with pure rage no matter the context
@reginaldforthright805 Mr. Pacino, it is an honor to have you join this discussion.
I was expecting so much out of the pro performance. But performing that scene on the same level as intermediates and then 30 seconds later plugging his actor training and mentorship program was peak comedy.
Great video! It is awesome to be able to see the comparing & contrasting between the acting levels. Especially with including the AI version!
Plot twist- this whole video was AI
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I don't think it will take that long for AI to at least come close, maybe in a few years?
@pinobluevogel6458 It already has. Brad Pitt is a robot🤖
@pinobluevogel6458 few years? and what would you say about that ruclips.net/video/rzV-Un9aoT0/video.html
Intermediate girl was very good. And beginner guy wasn't anywhere near the average beginner! (PS, I'm a movie producer)
So true. Not a producer but I do have a degree in film with a specialty for cinematography and an currently studying animation after falling in love with the medium. There are too many people who think acting is easy, but can't act a lick of salt. The beginner is already better than the average person.
beginner guy was better than both intermediates
nice, you can recognise actor acting congrats 😂
Wow that's neat to know some movie producer's watch these too.
Intermediate girl is cute
This is from 5 months ago, you would have to do one weekly to keep up with A.I.
I think what all of u guys missed is the sort of awkwardness and coyness/shyness of a conversation like this with a stranger. All of u were way too bold while there was a sense of playfulness with them that wasn’t too confident. It was taken as a silly conversation bc they JUST MET
Personally I thought Kaden was pretty on par for a beginner. But as for the ‘intermediate’ and ‘professional’ actors, Tristan is the only one who can act.
Spell the word "you."
AI feels like The Office, especially with those breaking the fourth wall stares😂
Performance theft is a very serious crime, Jazzym
I thought he was Jim Halpert.
@kenbob1071Temu Jim Halpert!
The AI has that Jeremiah Fisher acting
Noooooo 😭😭😭
LMAOOO
In the thumbnail notice: The actor picture on the right has diffuse overhead light, looks natural. The AI on the left has light coming from the back, hitting both shoulders, light on top of each shoulder. The head, then, should be similarly lit. But the hair on the viewer’s left shows light coming from the upper left, as if unseen from beyond the left corner. Look at the hair to viewer’s right. Only the back has a streak of illumination. If the light were coming from the back as for the shoulders that same light would illuminate the hair in a pattern similar to the shoulders. Hair and shoulders so close together, light from the back should create the same effect. Instead, greater highlights are on one side. The evenness of the effects of light in the actor image on the right are striking by contrast. AI can’t do highlights and shadows correctly. Yet.
The real moral of the story here is to not stop in the middle of the street when crossing.
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Honestly, I thought they were all pretty bad until the actual movie clip. Everyone looked like they were trying far too hard, seeming too conscious of themselves and their speech and behavior versus just embodying the characters. This actually made me really appreciate the skills of the "Oscar winners"!
so i guess acting is about not acting
I am not sure how many takes everyone got, but Brad Pitt had rehearsal and a couple of takes, so a scene usually gets better with repitition? And they were in the same room (unlike everyone before them). Your partner's energy matters so much.
@blauespony1013 and directing. Having the director telling you to tone down some expressions or the opposite can be very helpfull
I used to do plays and took acting classes and it is surprisingly hard to act like movie quality acting. Acting in plays is a little more forgiving though because it’s meant to be less subtle. I don’t think I’d ever be a great movie/TV actor, much props to those who are good at it.
@DanDCool😂 like Fernando Pessoa data about the poets?
O poeta è un fingidor
Finge tão completamente
Que chega a fingir que é dor
A dor que deveras sente
7:20 Tbh... Brad Pitt could never be that dorky.. lol
True. And that was what I wanted to show with my work…how my version would be completely different. Which shows the value of hiring the right actor. I would definitely not be a great fit for this character naturally.
If he couldn't be that dorky, then he's not a great actor. But since he is, he can be.
This is the type of scene where the actors HAVE to be together to work it out. Speaking as someone who knows nothing about
The AI gives me an uncanny valley feeling. The interactions feel stiff and ... devoid of real emotion. And after watching all the others it just seems a thousand times worse haha.
I didnt mind the intermediate acting at all, and I liked your delivery of the line "because I like you so much."
Perhaps the prompt was bad or he chose the wrong model, AI can generate better results, such as this one ruclips.net/video/rzV-Un9aoT0/video.html
what I realized from the AI, acting versus real life. Hunting is that the more vulnerable you are, the more likely you are to land the scene.
"Acting is reacting" Love it brother, you rock.
If I was an actor in Hallmark movies, I would be very worried right now
The AI has the same issue any AI generated material has: No one cared at all. The actors aren't capable of caring about the scene because they aren't real. The cameraman and the director have the same problem. One could argue that the prompter cared, but if your desire to make a movie ends at "Willing to write a prompt and wait a while for it to be generated" then I don't think anyone will care to watch your movie. I'll take bad acting from real humans any day over AI.
Really? I don’t care either way. The cartoons in cartoons and anime aren’t real either and people care tons about those characters. If the acting is good by AI then we can do away with actors and just rely on AI
@criert135 the difference is that cartoon/anime characters are directed and animated in the same way, by humans and not ai. you do you and watch what you want
@encorestudies And AI characters will be directed. Incredibly detailed and complex prompts would be used to direct AI of this kind. It’s simply giving us another incredible advancement in the technology for creating art.
Exactly 💯.... that's just hitting the nail on the head...
@criert135 you miss their point. The people who make the anime cares about the anime, they casted about the actor, the actors behind the characters care about the delivery, the artists, the musicians, they all care. Everything they said aplies to anime too.
The signature Brad Pitt moment is in his eyes for a split second at 9:46.
Exactly what I was going to point out. Just a split second after "strike" his eyes get big for a brief moment. Perfect.
Yeah. That's what I saw too. That little eyes wide flash, creating a strike of his own, unwired her for a second and reset the whole landscape of possibilities.
Good call. He's just emphasizing what he's saying, playfully suggesting that what he is saying has gravitas (like lightning itself), suggesting that it could be something profound--a great love that could change your life. People do that sort of thing all the time. But, who else would think to emote in that way while delivering lines as an actor? That's good stuff that really makes it feel like it's real flirting.
That's what I just said ... so subtle yet so impactful
The beginner, intermediate and professional were playing to a camera/video link which left no room for interaction.
Can't be compared to their actually talent if they were actually interacting on a set.
This won't stop film companies from doing their darnest to replace actors.
basically, AI is doing its best Gal Gadot impression 😅
You're so obsessed with Gal Gadot and it shows.
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As a layperson that doesn't know anything about acting, I found the Oscar winner scene so easy to "digest" and follow along. If I may - perhaps the other scenes had a lot more going on, more busy. But I guess this is why they are Oscar winners.
He doesn’t go to cool and suave imo… he realizes the conversation has stakes. It could actually be a reality, so it cows him.
Luigi Mangione is a student?! And he is a great actor!
The intermediate students did a natural delivery. Their interaction felt relatable.
Theres was the best for me next to the actual movie. The others made it seem too serious or something bad bappened
I agree. I think the intermediate pair has the best chemistry aside the Oscar winning.
imo its the chemistry that made theirs very good.
similar chemistry to the original
I dunno.. I know the scene was done remotely, but Matteo's delivery feels like it's off to me. I actually preferred the Beginner's version of what he said at the door, because while less romantic, it felt more natural!
@BollywoodBonanzaB i agree. kaden did better than both intermediate actors. their interaction was very awkward
One thing I picked up on great actors, is they don't blink that much. They hold eye contact.
Or, if you’re playing an insane person, the big thing is: NEVER BLINK. 👀👁️👁️
@SilkyDrawers Or robots. Especially those made by Cyberdyme Systems. 😂
You should break down the "assassins visit the house" scene in The Bourne Legacy. Rachel Weisz puts on an absolute clinic in how to modulate a scene's tone, speed, and intensity -- exactly the stock-chart variability you're talking about. She completely elevates the film.
There was a time when acting was an idea that kept me restless; and I began my pursuit which was, without regret, short lived. I did theatre mostly and watching you analyze and describe the content of a scene as well as the actor's delivery, reminds me of some of the best directors I worked with. I think you are a great actor, but I know, without an ounce of a doubt, that you will be a great director some day and I hope I get to enjoy the shapes and colors of your creative mind on set and stage.
There was so much tension during the "confession" moment between Brad and Claire, you can actually feel it. Like some kind of suspense that makes you worried about how each character is going to reply to the other's insinuation.
It’s a moment we can all relate to - or I guess those of us who have been lucky enough to fall in love.
Love seeing so many Acting Lab members doing amazing work!!
I spent two years in the 'respected' Tufts University Theater Program in the 80's before I dropped out. Why? You just taught me more about acting in 12 minutes than they did in two years.
True Fact: Too many of the actors were so impressed with themselves, when really, my High School acting friends had quadruple the talent. When I could no longer handle these Prima Donnas, I was taking one last look in the Green Room and the only actor I thought had talent was standing there enjoying an apple. I told him I couldn't take it anymore, but that YOU SIR will go places. That was Hank Azaria. Been dying to meet him again and say, "I told you so."
I love how everything he described about the AI is literally how stage actors perform lol I know stage is a big difference from film, but he indirectly dissed the typical stage actor (Broadway stars included).
Claire Forlani and Brad Pitt were so good together and I believed every moment of Meet Joe Black.
Debatable.
He was pretty good playing Diner Guy (No seriously, I tried to look up the credits what his name was before. Death took his body, and he donned the name Joe. But there really is no answer.), but I just didn’t buy him playing Death/Joe.
I’d argue that the original film, Death takes a Holiday, Fredric March plays Death far better. By all means not a good film either, I’d actually would rather say it’s somewhat of a better film.
1:19 the matrix clip was so funny 😂
How?
@DohItAll What do you mean "How"?
The action in Matrix is regarded by a lot of people to be top tier yet in that clip Neo and Agent Smith's fight looks so silly. Agent Smith was telegraphing his punches from a mile away
@annabrenda8694normal people don’t find fight scenes “funny”
Claire has 2 expressions, "I'm so sexy, and intriguing." and "I'm so fragile and mesmerizingly sexy."
The black lady played better.
The Ai reminds me of vertical films. Lol
When you're Brad Pitt, you can afford to throw away a line because the teeth and the hair are another character doing the heavy lifting.
There’s no empathy in AI, and even when it will learn some rudimentary empathy, it still isn’t going to be conveyed with true feeling.
It will never know real empathy. It can understand it but Ai won’t actually develop feelings.
You keep telling yourself that.
Two years ago artists claim they were safe because AI could not do hands. When in relaity AI suck at hands because THEY the artists sucked on hands. As soon as you give it real data of real people, better epochs and compute then bam.
Hands looking pretty good and if it is a bit off just inpaint and press gen again.
Ya'll need to stop coping.
AI isn't going to stay how it is. It will continue to grow and grow and grow and it will end every job you think that makes you a specials human.
When people say that I don't think they misunderstand IA, but they misunderstand feelings.
Feelings are that ungraspable thing just because we try to understand it with a brain that is made of the same fabric as the feelings themselves. But in reality it's just a brain, a very complex machine that produces reactions in other parts of the brain and outer reactions that people can see. All of that an AI will be able to do better and better. By they way you never see people's actual feelings but only their way of showing them. If it is perfectly impersonated, then what difference does it even make?
@GooseAlarm no ai could fix your grammar though.
you're not on as firm of ground as you think you are when thinking about feelings and consciousness and stuff lol
the reality is that you can't even be sure that *other humans* are conveying things with true feeling. It's the philosophical zombie problem and solipsism.
Social interactions are just action-reaction, AI is absolutely going to be able to emulate that one day, and it will be as convincing as seeing a human being doing it, because you have no connection to the inner workings of a human being's consciousness in exactly the same way that you have no connection to the inner workings of AI.
Camera placement on Madaline messed with the read for me. Her chin being turned up from the camera with addition of her body turned away, it makes her look judgemental instead of showing any vulnerability to you.
She didn’t seem judgemental to me
Interesting…it read like intrigue to me.
I got the same read. She felt judgy to me
I may have been heavily influenced by the fact that he said she was on something called "FBI" but I just kept thinking 'cop' the whole time. Like she was trying to catch him slipping, but not in a flirty way.
The interesting thing is that that kind of character would have actually been more intriguing to me than the seemingly generic love interest girl I'm seeing in the clip for "Meet Joe Black" (which I've never seen).
Could we see the prompt that have been used to create those scenes?
3:40 the beginner is better than the intermediates imo lol
Yes way better
10:48 "innocent and nerdy" :) Yeah, I picked up on that when I watched it. :) I'm not really into acting and came across this video because I was looking into AI but this is really interesting. I've always believed that I would have been a good actor but maybe everyone thinks that about myself. I have no regrets about not pursuing it because I really LOVED engineering, but sometimes I wonder if I should look into it just for fun ... like a lot of other things I enjoy. Thanks for the video, it was very interesting.
Every scene in this video, before Brad Pitt is like millions lights years away in past....
This entire breakdown was incredible to watch and see the differences.
1:58 the Malec scene 😭 subscribed
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RIGHT?!
Why are your eyes so red?? 6:28 I meannn they’re blue, but they’re red.
Because of his lighting setup and how he's chosen to color grade the footage. It was pretty distracting for me too. Too much contrast and saturation.
Normal Person a not smiling so much! Like a AI
Id like to see one of these videos for a piece of Gadot dialogue, and get to the professional section at the end and its like "Kal El No..."
Brad Pitt's delivery was so human because he is a human having a human experience. AI can't deliver a human experience because it's not human. It can copy all it wants, but it has no instinct.
I really wish AI "art" advocates would acknowledge this basic fact. Until and unless they do, AI "art" will always feel one-dimensional and clownish.
I agree. I don't hate AI the way many people do. I don't even hate generative AI. But it's important to have a clear picture of what AI is and what it isn't. A lot of advocates imagine AI to be "magical" or a living being, when it's clearly not. It can be an awesome tool, but at the end of the day, it's just a tool with both capabilities and limitations.
Train the AI in a simulation. It will get it.
@GooseAlarmcope
Went into this thinking it'd be someone glazing AI replacing actors; came out seeing a true appreciation for real human art. Love this. Massive W. Did subscribe.
They'll have to apply counter-intuitive prompts for ai to deliver each line with subtext or teach subtext to ai if that is even possible.
The unspoken cues and inner process of a human can’t seem to be imitated. Makes sense.
You say it can't seem to be imitated based on the results of nascent technology. Don't be absurd. How about come back to this in 10 years, then you might have grounds to start a debate.
What you're doing right now is akin to someone in the mid-90's looking at what the Internet was and thinking to herself, "yeah, this technology has no chance to ever be worth anyone spending significant time on it. More than likely, it's just a passing fad that we'll forget about in 10 years."
It just makes no sense to assume that the tech has hit its ceiling, especially since there's virtually never been a technology in human history that peaked within its first five years of existence.
While you're not wrong, people who leave comments like, "imagine how this will look in 10 years" make an incorrect assumption that generative AI will develop at a linear or exponential rate, and not a series of quickly diminishing returns. With video, machine learning tools will affect and make more efficient existing workflows in VFX etc, but text-to-video is creatively limiting as a means of getting pixels on a screen. It's just plain easier to put a human in front of a camera than it is to type 70,000 prompts.
2:04 keep in mind also this looks like a movie you seen this is why visually it looks ok because there are literally hundreds of movies an TV shows like this to rip off, the second you put them in an unusual place the "acting" gets worse
The intermediate actress was closer to the movie,
lol this whole thing was pretty much an ad
So... Was Gal Gadot an AI this whole time???
Racist!
Kal-El, no!
@ThatJew305lol that word is as overused as the word ‘wholesome’ 😂
@JimmyTerryPWLracist racist!
@ThatJew305
But I can’t possibly be…
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3:55 She instantly got me connected. The tone, the accent, the cadence. Whew!
Right, and she even has one of those circle lights! 😁
Though Pitt's timing & cadence is still top. I always thought Depp and Bale are at the top of their game also. Pretty cool how all 3 can play such a wide variety of characters! Even physically with Bale, maybe The Prestige had an impact! 🤔 Depp really shines with those "far out there characters" that can be hard, like Jack Sparrow. Sure wish I could act. I just don't have the focus in that kind of setting.
Thank you! I’m not a native English speaker, so that means a lot💛💛
@IsabellNesbityou deserve it. It was all in the voice and facial expressions for me.
@IsabellNesbitnah you suck.
What prompts did you use for the ai? Did you instruct it to be flirty, of bashful, etc.?
that question he'll never answer xD
If he did that it would defeat the purpose of AI. Isn't the point of AI to act for itself and not have prompter act for them?
@Rin8Kinkeep coping with your talentless life
I was not even engaged until the professional actors came on.