Shore Line Trolley Museum HD 60fps: Fan Railer Operates NYC Subway Car R17 6688 (Operator POV)
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2016
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Part of my annual (soon to be more regular) visits to the BERA Museum up in Branford CT on 7/16/16. I went up with another New York Transit Museum volunteer, Emil ( / mrrailfanbve , who graciously helped me record these clips of me operating Redbird R17 6688. Check out his channel and give him a sub!
Anyway, we booked four round trips (shorelinetrolley.org/guest-ope...) and split the runs between the two of us; here are my runs. Note that I run through a bit of a learning curve on my first outbound run, figuring out where the points are on the master controller and getting a feel for the full service and minimum application notches on the ME-42A SMEE brake handle. Once I get it, the rest of my runs are as smooth as I can make them. In particular, the second run (inbound) is notable for the fact that due to signal issues, we must stop at every red ball and proceed through under rule 504 (stop and proceed), and the third run (outbound) is notable because, after getting a feel for the brakes, I am able to bring the car into the short beach platform at a relatively high speed, making one brake application and bailing off as necessary in order to come to a stop right at the stop marker.
We do experience voltage / amperage issues throughout the day, making it difficult to wrap up the controller, as putting it in full parallel below 15 MPH results in the car trying to pull too much amperage from the line. Once the amp draw exceeds 175 amps (there's an ammeter in the rear of one of the cabs), the substation automatically cycles, cutting out for a split second, causing the lights to flicker and power to be cut from the motors. Once that happens, you must throw the MC back to coast for a few seconds before moving it back to Series (second point). This problem is exacerbated by the fact that the line voltage is already below 600 VDC (closer to 500-550 near the maintenance barns, and dropping to 400 or so out at the far end of the line). This means that to attain the same rate of acceleration, more current must be drawn (V = IR [for you physics nerds]).
As a general rule of thumb, Switch position (first point) is only to be used in low speed yard moves. Leaving the controller in Switch for too long causes too much current to be fed through the resistor banks, heating them up to a dangerous temperature. In fact the R17s were notorious for resistor grid fires back in the day. So typically, you want to either notch up to Switch for 2 seconds, then proceed to Series, or just like you would on the main line, start off in Series.
So in short, enjoy the ride =)
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Museum website: shorelinetrolley.org
Museum Facebook page: / shorelinetrolleymuseum 
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My God I'm surprised you didn't break the throttle lmao
For real
Lol
It’s made out of Cast iron iirc. You can’t break these things lol. They’re built to last
Fr tho 🗿
When I ran the R-9 I couldn't stop smiling.
That brake release though!!
The R17s and R21/22s are my favorite subway cars by far because they are double-ended.
@@patrickgallagher4898 Those trains used to run on the number (1) line in New York City long before the R62 and R62A trains arrived in the 1980's.
Lol bro in the beginning, that instructor was kinda a pain in the ass.......
lololol
Hardly as bad as one instructor I had at a museum. Yelling at me arrogantly...
ecoRfan
You mean anyone can do this as long as you pay them the service fee to let you drive the trains? What is the cost and how long per ticket? That sounds so cool!
I noticed from the tone of his voice from the start.. would've ruined the vibe for me
@@ecoRfan Seems like this is a typical thing for railway museums... They often seem to be quite conceited and have an utterly rude tone.
This is on my bucket list
Well with $50 and a trip to the shoreline trolley museum you can scratch that off your list
Very cool!! Glad the younger generation is learning about and operating SMEEs!!! I got to operate 6688 almost 30 years ago when it was on BERA property only a short time and many times between then and 1991!!! Relax and Enjoy!!!!!
BERA?
I got the chance to operate the Flagg Coal 75 in Owosso, MI this year. I had a blast, and you, while having a similar experience, must have had a blast as well. Nice video!
It's been almost a decade since this video was recorded. That guy must be a professional by now.😆
Hey Fan Railer! Through my RUclips autoplaying into a DJ Hammers operator view vid, I found your channel and as an operator on the London Underground I'd like to say thanks for posting your channel - it gives a lot of people who have never visited America (like me) a real taste of what goes on. Hopefully I'll get over there to see the real thing one day!
NYC is an interesting area for me as Train Daddy took over as the head of our organisation yesterday.
I echo a lot of other comments - the instructor was well harsh and pushy. Maybe he wanted to demonstrate how strict training is in real life but in London it's not like that (I'm an Instructor Operator on my line so have trainees), the way he was talking would make trainee operators nervous which is not the aim of the game.
When you're paying money and wanting to enjoy yourself there's no need for things to be so strict, you're supposed to be enjoying yourself : )
Take care and keep safe, best from the UK!
7:04 my ancestors felt that
this looks like SOO much fun. i'd love to do this when i get older.
This looks like an amazing thing to do, hoping to do this at my local railroad museum soon but not sure if they still offer driving a train as something you can do.
8:05 Where he Dumps the Air out.
My question is how were you able to do this? Do you have to be a member or can the public sign up?
Wow! Like a dream come true.
Pretty cool! I like the sound of the curves at 4:42... ...rembering me at the big MTA-Network of NY and its sounds... ;)
I have driven the old streetcar #10 at the Shelburne Falls trolley museum but no other real trains as far as I remember.
i hope to go down to Transit as an RCI. my dads and our friend who is a superintendent are helping prep for the future.
One of the best positions
cool video i cant wait too drive th trolles were i live
How old do you have to be to get driving lessons? 16-18?
This is really cool!!! But does driving one of these in Worlds of Subways 4 count?
Well done FanRailer! That looks like great fun! Tell Me, why did the US scrap most of it's electrified lines, or more specifically, the cables and the idea of electrified railroads?
Regards, from South Africa.
lots and lots of politics lol. Big oil has a lot of power here. Additionally, there are a lot of logistical issues with electrification of railroads in a large country with MULTIPLE RR companies each owing thousands of miles of track. Diesel power is just cheaper and easier to standardize than overhead power supply here: reasonrail.blogspot.com/2012/05/why-freight-will-never-electrify.html
Ok, thank you so much. Check out My Channel,
Regards, oh and remember...I am always looking forward to your videos!
how are you able to test these trains out?
i gotta try operating a subway car since i still in West Haven, CT
How did you get to do this?
Lucky guy- looks like fun- I MUST do it before departing earth!
I’m trying to find out if they are still doing guest operator !! B great for Father’s Day
Where did you do this
How old do you have to be to drive this?
I want to how long he’s been an instructor I could operate that train with my eyes closed lol I did it for 22yrs
they let you operate? lucky! it was an off when me and my dad drove up there unfortunately.
U r a good train driver
I would like to do that too, but i see on the website that they only do it 3 weekends a year, and its all sold out
it is not. check again.
shorelinetrolley.org/guest-operators/sign-up/
Oh wow very me want visit so can ask your where live??
Do the R17s have automatic acceleration?
Yes.
Do you work there
How are you driving
How were you able to do that?
shorelinetrolley.org/guest-operators/
Very cool...
I ran 6688 and her sisters in regular service on the IRT
This is an in depth video of 6688
did you get to play with the rollsign?
I could care less about the rollsign lol
awwwwww lol
Fan Railer was it hard to operate this thing
no
Fan Railer Are you looking to apply for a job at the MTA? Have you taken the motormen's exam?
I noticed the R17 doesn’t have a speedometer. Hmm???
They don’t have a speedometer because back in the day, you operated by “feel”, no speedometer. Trains didn’t have speedometers until after the 1995 Williamsburg bridge crash.
@@fh4709 Are you sure? The Kawasaki B-IV Broad Street cars were built in 1983 and they came with speedometers from the factory.
@@josephheston9238 that's a whole other train system
Professional
what is the buzzer for
To allow the train crew to communicate with each other.
At 1:09 he said "2nd point." They said it was against the rules to go into 2nd point in the yard when I was there about a year ago... I was there a day before you were there last year lol
As long as you only use 2nd point to get to about 4 mph, then its fine. Take 2nd for about a second then notch off back to coast. Remember, you're not supposed to leave it in first for more than 2-3 seconds at a time.
+Fan Railer ohhhhh lol
which train is this is it R32 or R42
..... read the title
Fan Railer oh it R17
R46-R68A all fall under the SMEE designation. Propulsion is controlled by an electrically driven cam drum sequencer. The NTTs are computer controlled.
lots of horn warning activations.. compressor getting worn out.
Good job, I'm sure it was a great experience.
lol still better than when the car has a leak (like the Lo-V / R9 train last weekend). Those compressors might as well have never shut off all day lmao.
can tou do more like this
In due time. This isn't cheap or schedule-convenient.
The guy who's teaching him sounds strict
Is that you in the glasses?)
lol what do you think?
nice
Wow
Was this a guest operator's weekend?
Yes.
+Fan Railer Also, at 2:44, I see you releasing the brakes in steps or notches. Were you just doing that and the brake has smooth transitions, or is the brake notched?
The brake is a continuous range; the only reason I release in notches there is because its coming off of a charge after I dumped the air and sent it to emergency. It's my version of a static brake test.
+Fan Railer Ah I see. Thank you.
+Patrick Gallagher its notched I operated the same car lol
Wow cool!
The instructor sounded kind of annoyed.
1st point, 2nd point, break throttle point, passed
A lot of arms for 8 hours
That instructor :/
5:48
Speed up a little!!!
Wow! That instructor is sooo annoying