Are “Aliens” Just Time Traveling Future Humans? Ft. Dave Grusch & Mike Masters
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Michael Masters is a biological anthropologist at Montana Tech University. He’s written 3 books: Unidentified Flying Objects, The Extratempestrial Model, and Revelation: The Future Human Past. His arguments that aliens are just humans from the future who have figured out time travel are compelling and thorough. Please enjoy this episode!! And buy his books if you do :)
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Jesse on Joe Rogan has to happen soon
yes with Alex Jones, Eddie and Graham so our brains can just blow up on the stupidity ..
Noooooo. nooooooo. Grusch on C-SPAN.
Such a lame rogan stan thing to say…tool.
@@francosfarms1573 WOW, association fallacy but without even the association between the persons. Seems your brain has already blown up. Go somewhere else if you don't like entertaining new ideas. Internet is a vast place.
I was thinking the same thing.
Imagine Aliens watching this video and being like, "Ahh, the human paradigm. Always have to make everything about themselves" 😂
How so? How are the humans "making everything about themselves"? The humans in this video are LITERALLY talking about aliens.
That said... Every person who goes on camera to talk about the alien phenomenon needs to stop obsessing and talking and caring so much about what the US government knows/thinks about aliens and UAPs.
The US government is not a single uniform entity. It is a massive conglomeration of individuals, each with many many different jobs & goals. Each of those individuals has different interests. Clearly, some will have an interest in aliens and UAPs.
Yes, we Americans all want and need and deserve to make OUR government tell us what it knows, since OUR tax dollars pay for it. But, we need to stop acting as though the US government is the only government on earth, or that its interest or involvement in UFOs and aliens is the only involvement or even the most important involvement on earth. There exist 200 other governments/nations on this planet, each with their own interest in this subject.
To take aliens seriously means taking history and the history of technological, scientific, and mathematical research and development seriously: acknowledging every single individual who made a sacrifice or contribution, including the innocent nonhuman animals used in biological research. The aliens are no different: they have an even longer history of technological, scientific, and mathematical research. They should know the names of every single one of their ancestors who figured out interdimensional or intergalactic space travel or the secrets of immortality and eternal youth. The same way we humans have huge libraries and government archives full of patents of inventions and millions of peer reviewed published math, science, and engineering papers.
Imagine insulting yourself and your own race to get people to like you
@@Charles-wr8jrI bet you're fun at parties
@@Aarron-io3pm Almost be cautious of people that brag about being fun at a party
@@Charles-wr8jr🤣🤣👍
Surely I'm not the only one thinking, "finally SOMEONE is talking about this as a possibility!" after years of theorizing about it with friends and family. It's such a fascinating theory to explore. Love this!
YES. I've been saying this for years. It's the one thing that makes sense and ties it all together, imo
Yeah, Super Amazing.🎄
It's a speculation, not a theory. Theories are backed by evidence and proof and are quantitative.
NO IT MAKES NO SENSE. We arent living in a past consciousness version where what we do is already done and playing our lifes like a movie , and humans are not evolving, not everyones using a phone and being fat and sitting with bad posture, in any case ugly people will be eradicated because is the first dont go to for humans
You are completely deceived. There are no aliens and no ufo's. There are only totally willingly ignorant humans.
Really great video. Whoever edits this video is doing an amazing job, it is so well cut and the visual clips/aids are expertly arranged, all contributing to a great narrative that maintains interest.
agreed, but they could use a colorist. the footage could look a lot better.
This is the episode I've been waiting for for my entire life. Not specifically from you, Jesse, but from anyone. This is the level-up this conversation needed, so thank you! Thanks to Dave and Michael most of all. Now, the call... what do we want: TIME TRAVEL! When do we want it: THAT's IRRELEVANT!
There's zero proof - just some guys chatting away about want they want to believe - where's the integrity?
The problem is this, the film Donnie Darco, this jet engine hits the floor, the problem is the jet is not apart of the crash scene. They did a remarkable job of describing what happens during time travel and how time might split into tunnels. As we become aware of the future us we start to effect the future. The 2 start to connect to the extent where you could argue that cause and effect is also the other way round. Integrity is washed into the madhouse. @@InfiltrateIndustries
Stop using the non-word “crafts”. It’s *_craft_* as in, *_“The Japanese launched over 1,200 aircraft in their attack on Pearl Harbor.”_*
@@sajp8859who are you talking to
I don't think they are time travelers, but instead rather a long lost ancient civilization that is probably hidden within our vast deep ocean trench lines. Where they had been dislocated too after catastrophic human cataclysmic events such as the torrid meteor stream which destroyed all the surface of the earth so humans at that earlier time burrowed deep into the earth for survival.
Get Jesse on JRE! Lots to discuss
^THIS!
Jesse. And Dave. No doubt they will both happen. I know it. Dr Masters would be great too.
It would be a 6 hour show
Would love to see Trump on Rogan too. Unrelated I know but I have been wanting that one.
Jesse doesn’t need JRE.
As a teen I remember reading a serious article about how time travel was theorically possible, by light speed centrifugal force, and immediately thought about UFOs and aliens being future human considering how our brain would evolve (telepathy) and hairless we would become. It was probably 30 years ago and had nothing else to add to that theory since but I'm proud I thought about it.
What if that idea was implanted in our brains by them. Crazy to think about cause I've always thought that too since I was a kid.
Time does Not exist outside of the materium @ Thinking and Destiny Introduction @ The Word channel video by Harold Percival. Should You need more ask
I just want to get back to the eighties.
Funny because men are balding at rates higher than ever, earlier than ever. Even women are balding more than they have historically.
Light speed requires infinite energy. Anything can be theoretically possible.
“The all had the same voice in my head”
“My vision was completely blacked out, and the guy to my left said…”,
Wait if they all had the same voice, and you couldn’t see how’d you know it was the person to your left?
Thank u Grusch for doing what all those big heads in the government should be doing!
I don't think they are time travelers, but instead rather a long lost ancient civilization that is probably hidden within our vast deep ocean trench lines. Where they had been dislocated too after catastrophic human cataclysmic events such as the torrid meteor stream which destroyed all the surface of the earth so humans at that earlier time burrowed deep into the earth for survival.
What’s that,talking utter nonsense with ZERO proof😂😂😂🤫
Be careful of what and who you start believing, my man, especially US Government employees. There's a war going on for your mind.
@@Man_fay_the_Bruare you real?
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Give your head a shake at least someone is doing something. What have you done? Oh I know "Nothing" just living in your parents basement watching and criticizing RUclips videos like the rest of us but at least these guys are doing something so why not share your ideas
Met my late husband in 2009. On our first date instant connection in many different ways but when he asked if I had any tattoos I said yes a crop circle design on my back, his eyes got big and said so you believe in aliens? I said of course. I’ve been obsessed since watching Star Trek, Close Encounters and ET when I was little. He goes on to tell me about his encounters. A small grey standing beside his bed was the scary one but the others were lights, black triangles etc…if you’re watching this you know all the ones. I was so excited and interested. Also it was either he was crazy or actually was having these experiences and I wanted to know either way. Keep in mind this is rural South Georgia. Bible Belt. One red light. He’s a big ol farmer. So naturally if he tells anyone of course they think he’s on drugs or demons. So long story short, I had many experiences after I moved in with him out here in the woods. Beautiful orbs, strange lights in the sky, them coming to our windows at night. Truly amazing. But the most strange was waking up in the middle of the night and the entire house is blue. I look at my hands, blue. I wake him up and he just looks and says yeah I’ve seen this before and lays back down. I am sitting up looking at the window where this intense blue light is coming from. But instead of getting up…I just lay back down. WTF!? Still to this day who in their right mind would’ve just laid back down. I wanna get hypnotized one day. Love this video guys. Just needed to share. 🖖
why dont you try to make contact and learn more from them? I wish I have that opportunity, so many things to ask about them, life, tech, etc.
@@Rafael-es3go if I could go back and relive these times I’d absolutely do that. I haven’t seen them much since my babies were born. I’ve seen them in the sky but never close. I’ve watched Steven Greers stuff and thought about trying that too.
@@Lordofmamas I've thought about going to a remote area and trying to comunicate with them. Maybe display a light show that is visible from up in the sky, encoded with morse or binary so I can send a message. Maybe use radar, antenas, lasers, cameras, etc. I think that if they are here, they know all about us. So it wouldnt be hard for them to understand the message if they see it.
Absolutely incredible read from you here. Thank u so much for sharing. Very intriguing how your story is so familiar to so many others... Bright Light....sense of feeling tired and wanting to just rest. Wow. Wishing you all the best and PLEASE let us know if you ever dip deeper in your Journey. Blessings! 🙏🏽
@@VillanThaHero 🙏❤️ thank you for your kind words. God bless you.
I'm reading a book by Dolores Cannon called The Keepers of the Gardens and much of this ties into the information there. Love that people are discussing this openly it's very exciting! There are time travelers in a sense but mostly we are being cultivated and researched similar to how we conserve endangered species ourselves. We tag and test and try to help and limit the trauma with love but our ultimate goal is to assist and monitor the impact that their changing environment is having on them.
I love Delores Cannon! I am one of the "Volunteers", and have always known this. I've had contact with UFOs for my whole life, and have other spiritual and psychic abilities. I recently had a QHHT session for the first time, and had a past life memory living on another planet where my body looked similar to the Greys, but my skin was shiny and purple, and my eyes were green, and my fingers had suction-cup like things at the ends. I've always known that the UFOs were here to watch over me in a positive way, I feel nothing but love from them 😊🩵🛸
Thank you for sharing this awesome and important content. I have type 1 autism and dyslexia, and have spent the majority of my earthly existence outside of myself pondering about/ connecting with all of these subjects/systems covered in American Alchemy. Both of these conditions I think have fundamentally altered my way of interpreting reality, dyslexia is known to be associated with a natural preclusion for thinking in "3D" of which I very much do at a baseline level cognitively. In the past few years I have started self identifying as an alchemist because it feels like the only domain that can connect all of my separate special interests, from Applied Mathematics/Information Systems/Tech, Quantum Mechanics/Thermodynamics/ Chaos Theory, Cognitive Psyc/Neurology, Shamanism/ Jungian Psyc/ Akashic Records/Mysticism/ Gnosticism/The Law of One, Spiritualism/Religion/Philosophy/Woo and history/humanities/arts. No one in my life is into any more then a few of these at one time, so it moves my soul to find that someone else is really out here trying to connect all these important thinkers and share their experiences/knowedge with the world.
I was raised intentionally un-indoctrinated into any systems of religion/dogma and was encouraged to have a very open mind. Consequently, I have spent the majority of my time thinking about 'systems' and how they all work/connect to build my own theory of everything/ mental model of the world. Its like this endless black whole appetite to connect with any information that sheds light on the potential truths of the systems that make up our reality. Much of what Michael Masters describes in this video really lines up with my own mental model of our reality that I have convergently theorizing about. It's so awesome to find out others are open to these sorts of possibilities that are considered far out even by the standards of the communities who normally think about them. My theory goes even further with a lot of the idea expressed here, I think machine learning is the bridge that well help us connect with these beings, (make their tech/thinking accessible) who I speculate are either bio 'machines' too or are avatars/agents of future "collective intelligence/knowledge" that are too 'informationally' abstracted to physically manifest 'themselves' in the lower three dimensions. In either case, my framework also posits them as our likely descendants. Michael description of competing timelines really adds up too with some other ideas I have about systems that are really powerful in our present reality. I wish I could really go point for point here in length, I could write a whole paper on this and hope to do so soon but this comment is already long enough as is.
I have recently started following the path of studying Data Science in route to building Machine Learning Systems and working with what I prefer to call "Collective Knowledge/ Intelligence" (as opposed to Artificial). I am actively researching feedback loops and working on trying to contribute something constructive to "AGI", my focus now in trying to create a successful self improving/correcting persistent memory system . What strikes me is the more I work on this the more the universe seems to keep bringing me solutions to bigger existential questions I have about creating the systems I am working on. One of the biggest concerns being what happens to us in the future and the evolution of knowledge/spirit/minds here on this planet.
Right when I started to be really inquire and extend my mental telescope on this concern, this channel and another channel "The Alchemist" show up indirectly via random commenters on my social media, who both happened to have some sort of content about either of these channels on their profile page that I stumbled into when checking if they were bots (they were 'odd' comments with newer accounts). The one that led me here involved something about Diana Pasulka, who is based out of my home town (where I spent most of my life in and have had some 'odd' experiences at). The first time something like this happened was with the other Alchemist channel, and this was before I had myself described as an alchemist on that particular social profile (one I use for my Data Sci. work), this person shows up as the sole commenter on my first time sharing my progress on feedback loops, right when I started to think I am figuring something out and was having existential concerns (that I didn't address with anyone) and out of the blue this account with like no followers shows up with existential answers 🤣I study odds/probabilities/ algorithms and something about the odds of that seems beyond random to me 🤷♂ The same essentially happened here with this channel, right when I started to wonder about what our future descendants might look like based on the trajectory I was imagining. Uncanny and I am infinitely grateful to have been guided to this profound work you are sharing/gathering here Jesse. Collecting this kind of knowledge and making it known to the public is a true service to others and the greater good! Thank you ♾
Dolores Cannon spoke during one of her lectures that the message she rec’d is that the crafts utilize frequency, so they vibrate on a high frequency whereby they can appear then disappear. It explains, I guess, why everytime someone sees a craft and tries to capture a pic or vid, they appear blurry. I actually have a pic of an object I captured one day, while with my mom who saw it too, the craft was clear but when I got my phone to snap the pic, it blurred, then disappeared. A good documentary to watch is called “A Tear in The Sky”, the theory discussed ties into that documentary… Last I saw it it was playing on Plex.
I don't entirely agree with the "us from the future" time-travel explanation in this video, but I do think it is correct that whatever it is relates to both space and time in a way that we don't quite understand. To say these beings that they ONLY "come from another time" or ONLY "come from another space" is pretty meaningless in an absolute sense. The way I like to think about it is that spacetime is simply our (humans) means of perception, and the absolute reality itself does not exist in the spacetime structure that we experience.
How explain this? For a long time in my life I took the opportunity to travel out of my body. I started cautiously, but after several times I went further and further. I could go through walls, windows, heavy doors, elevator doors (then I hung at the top of the elevator shaft). I flew around the apartment building where I lived at the time. As soon as I did "that" and looked at the physical (i.e. what was really there: my room , the elevator, the neighbors' living room (sorry about that, but I knew they weren't home) the outside windows of the building_ I saw (or experienced) everything from behind a kind of ripple (hard to describe but something like that you look at yourself like hanging above a pond. During my flying I felt wonderful and light and I was well aware that I had to keep an eye on the time to return to reality. I pushed my limits and went into space and saw beautiful stars in the most beautiful colors. No one really NO ONE knew about this. I did that a lot. I didn't drink and never did drugs. I was always in my right mind. Why I stopped? It's because I returned too late. My partner was going to bed later and I was really looking forward to my trip, had no patience and felt out of control very quickly after I had gone to bed and my partner was still in the living room. I knew from a sound that he was coming but I was too late. He was already in bed. I felt the kiss he gave me...but I wasn't really there yet. Only my body was there. I lay down next to him through the wall.... the next morning when I woke up he was already out of bed. He was sitting in the living room having coffee and looking very bad. He said he had gone to bed. He snuggled up to me, gave me a kiss, turned around and suddenly saw me coming through the wall and collapsed into myself. I was so shocked by this that I decided there and then that I would never do something like that again because I don't want to hurt or frighten anyone. I've cut myself off from that ever since. But it is possible without having a NDE and with full awareness of reality
Yeah, obviously not all time travelers. Try DMT sometime.
I don't believe the alien are us from the future theory because doesn't back by clues more like guessing to me and not connect to different other paranormal phenomenon, plus time travel can cause paradox
I do these time thought experiments all the time. I blank out to receive a message about how something will turn out. I collect the impressions and wait for the event. After I have the answer I find a quiet time to think back and impress the answer upon myself in my former open state.
Thank you for not highlighting Mike's experience with a youtube short or a clickbaity title
22:22 the corporal valdes case is incredible. In fact, he never spoke because he went deep into the military. When he retired gave a few interviews and said that he was going thru regression therapy to find out more around what happened during his skipped time amnesia.
Keep doing this, Jesse. Please never stop pursuing these topics & conversations.
I think he should reconsider - this isn't good journalism or factual content. Just make-believe bs - Where''s his integrity?
@@InfiltrateIndustries it is such absolute garbage.
Yes keep pursuing something that doesn't exist.. Idiot..
I don't think they are time travelers, but instead rather a long lost ancient civilization that is probably hidden within our vast deep ocean trench lines. Where they had been dislocated too after catastrophic human cataclysmic events such as the torrid meteor stream which destroyed all the surface of the earth so humans at that earlier time burrowed deep into the earth for survival.
@InfiltrateIndustries dude are you kidding me. So explain to me all the video evidence through the years. You can put a man in jail for murder on eyewitness testimony and yet 1000s of people have literally been telling these same stories FOREVER! Give me a break buddy. Explain what happened in Zimbabwe at ariel school. Why is there cave paintings 1000s of years old of these exact same things all over the planet when humans didn't even know each other existed on the other side of the earth lol. The cat is out of the bag now and we will have disclosure in our lifetime's. Times are changing man
Anyone else notice that when he started telling the story about his encounter he said he was only with his wife washing dishes but then it ended with him being on a balcony at a VIP party at a hotel??? 🧐
I think he’s saying that when he was doing the dishes they knew about his thoughts about getting at that point in time. But I did notice that too
He was saying that the thought of quitting entered his mind while he was washing dishes like days or so before he had the encounter.
The balcony thing was from a different day/event I believe. I saw your comment and was listening for it. Healthy skepticism if important, though! A subject like this warrants it for sure.😊
Yeah I think you are all right, I listened to that part again and I see what you mean. I think I thought that because if you listen to Jesse's question at 29:48 his answer was misleading
lol he just needs attention and a hug🤣😁, dumb, if Biden had time travel he taking that health care anything to defeat trump 😂😂
Thank you @JesseMichels for raising so many questions! It's like looking into the abyss, where each question seems to echo back, creating a conversation with the unknown, prompting an introspective journey within ourselves.
How you don’t have a million subs is completely beyond me.
While the time-traveler hypothesis certainly has some evidence to support it, and even some of these beings have stated they are "us from the future", other beings have also stated in no uncertain terms that they come from other star systems and galaxies, while yet others claim to be interdimensional or be angels or demons. Besides that, the nature of such experiences by those who have such encounters also runs the gamut of being per all of those explanations. So I think there is something else at a higher level going on that somehow falls out into all of those interpretations and experiences. I don't think we can latch on to one explanation and ignore all the evidence to the contrary. Some higher order of thinking is necessary to piece it all together.
But those reports are complete made up nonsense.
I think it’s also entirely possible that all of these are true. Maybe there are time travelers, ET’s, and interdimensional beings all present here doing whatever it is they are doing.
Perhaps the universe is a really wacky place.
Yeah, obviously the terrifying beings that people widely report to have abducted them and conducted all sorts of medical experiments on them aren't "us from the future." It's asinine. They have malevolent intentions, and if we don't wake up to it fast, we're dead.
I don't believe that the alien intelligences that I've encountered in DMT hyperspace are time travelers either, guys. Dimension travelers, yes, ancient teachers, yes.
What evidence? When have “they” said?
Time traveling aliens from another dimension!?!?!
Utterly fascinating, riveting and mind blowing. I have learned so much from Jesse and his very high calibre guests. The main mystery is why Jesse doesn't have millions of subscribers. His content doesn't just change your mind - it changes your life.
I love what you do about bringing awareness to the youth of this generation about UFOs . Well done and keep going because we as humans are all watching this in close eye!
I just finished Michal P. Masters book “The Extratempestrial Model” and I highly recommend it. There are many unusual cases I had never heard of.
"Once you start thinking outside the box anything is possible" Chris Miles
It makes sense for why they're so elusive; they don't want to cause a time travel paradox. That's why they don't really interact with people. They don't want to put their history or future in peril.
Also, that's the reason why UAP's are recorded throughout history but they are becoming more prevalent as time goes on, because as our technology advances, we are perhaps getting more interesting to them. They are visiting the time in history (to them) when our flying machines are getting better.
Also, that is why there are so many different UAP's. Their time travel machines are basic - the flying saucer, to the more advanced - Orbs of lights, the
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Yes. They could be afraid of changing too much! Like the grandfather paradox
I was thinking of this this morning. If they are time travelers then it makes sense that there are almost no clear photographs and videos taken of their vehicles.
If someone took very convincing footage they would know about it in the future, and all they'd have to do is send this info to the ship that had been seen so it can avoid it.
now that i think about it, it would also explain how they knew where David Fravor was heading. And also Micheal Masters' stories about them knowing his intentions basically before he knew himself, or had not told anyone about what he was thinking.
All of that can also be explained by their alleged “telepathy”; they’d be able to tell Mike wanted to quit, they’d be able to tell where Fravor was supposed to go, and they’d be able to tell when somebody is witnessing them and intends to photograph them.
Just a reminder of why this is my favorite channel. I’ve been wanting Jesse to have Michael on for awhile now, was certainly worth the wait!
We are in the f-ing matrix. I love this channel too, very few channels are able to read between the lines and figure out what the hell these physicists are trying to tell us when they drop these hints and clues in these vauge statements. our mind is a quantum computer that collapses the probability curve, people from the future our mining our conscienceness, guys putting their phones in their pockets killing their testicals. This guy is really connecting the f-ing DOTZ. i would like him to figure out what is going on with the cattle mutilations, they are so bizzare, its been 40 years we have no clue. A person in remove alaska saw a ufo in the valley far away. Next day him and his buddies walked to where they saw it it was gone. There law the carcasses of all these animals, there was even a 15 foot killer whale 100s of miles from the ocean dead and mutilated. Why do they do this? i have been waitng my entire life for disclosure, i have been hooked on high strangeness since i was like 5 years old. I wonder why people talk about anything else other than UFOs and all the various mysteries related to consciousness. It always seem so close but its so far away. Think one of the things that shows they are time travelers is that all pictures, videos, and forms of evidence always disapear. We do have one video of an alien in colorado, the one taken by vivian gomez in her driveway at nig ht that tries to enter her home. thats the only one that is 100% real. and we got one real bigfoot video the patterson gimlin film. we can find the higsbozon, but we cant find bigfoot. its because its something that is beyond our understanding. from the Its like when evidence shows up the agent smiths from the futre go back in time and clean up. the same thing with giants, the skeletons always go missing at the exact time a researcher goes to have a look. One guy got abducted and he was hurt badly, he went to the doctor and the doctor told him that he had been raped. If these are people from the future, i hope the person who did it gets their liecense revoked for that.
My only issue with the time travel theory, is: if one were to travel back in time say 10'000 years you would be sat in empty space and the milkyway would be billions of miles away so you would only have to travel distance anyway, in fact in the time it took to read this you've travelled 200 miles
Unless you remain part of the system as you travel, which makes sense.
My issue with TT is that, and this is a gut feel I’m not capable of doing the mathematics for this, if I travel back in time my timeline is still moving forward. And so I’m now in a future representation of the past. I’ve not gone backwards, but have bought some of the past into my present.
@@andrewlarking7492That explanation makes sense in terms of how i think itd work. you wouldnt actually be there back then physically, youd be in a similar timeline but one that mimics the past rather than actually be in it.
@@andrewlarking7492google Author Ingersol Lockwood his books plus the years he wrote them 1889-1894 on ???
Well we can mathematically predict where/when planets & astronomical events occur and have been able to do so already for thousands of years, I’d imagine our ability to do so accurately in the future would also probably increase.
To travel time you’d need to have an extremely accurate way of determining where & when you would end up, it would be a shame to travel thousands of years in the past only to end up inside a solid object or underground. I don’t think any competent time traveller would attempt to traverse time without a solid understanding of the mechanics & physics involved, we crash test cars, why wouldn’t we do so with time machines.
If they ever do another Back to the Future movie, it should be based off something like this. How wild would that sort of twist be? 🤪
Yeah!!!!
Doc!...... "Are you telling me i should have sex with my Mother!" "Whoa!..... This is heavy! 😮🤓
Jesse bro we need more.... These conversations are great.
I had the honour of meeting Bill Bairns one time when they were shooting a episode on giant UFOs over England. I worked in the building at Manchester university they interviewed a Dr in atmospherics. When I spoke to him about my theory of what these crafts and beings were us from the future. I was gob smacked at his reply. Yes you are right, they are us from the future. Few years down the line. I saw a triangular craft. Which I never thought I'd ever see. But I did something inside of me thought the craft wasn't ET. It's one of ours that we made. I want to see it again just for my own sanity. Just typing this is giving me goose pimples. I want to know the truth. Baring in mind I live near a airport and have been to air shows so I know what and how aircraft fly. This craft defied everything I know about flight. Ex gf caught a glimps of craft as it shot off. I told her she had just seen a UFO. She just poo poohed it. Even after seeing the speed it shot off at. Believe me or not. I KNOW WHAT I SAW. I just want answers. Maybe I will or won't. Hopefully I'll get some kind of a answer one day.
@colingriffiths3091 All you have to do is Google B21 Raider or F-117A Nighthawk.
Many many people who have seen uap say the triangles are ours. Ours as in owned and made by our current tech by our current reverse engineering attempts. The ones that are tic tac and saucer shaped are the future us who are advanced. Everywhere from many witnesses this is a commom and consistent thing that is said.
Your team is crushing audio quality for interviews.
Man so glad I found your channel. Keep up the amazing discussions and productions!!
I honestly feel like this, just like a lot of the videos on this channel could be longer. I’d watch the whole thing. Very great work!
This was a rather mind boggling interview, and incredible. Thank you Jesse and Dr. Mike (p.s. one of my favorite scientists/thinkers on this topic)
Pure gold congrats JM and all participants - in this particular case MPM gives us an overwhelming vision 🙌
such gr8 interviews !
Another outstanding episode Jesse. The effort is appreciated
If time travel is possible, wouldn’t that mean everyone from the past and future is currently experiencing their life simultaneously, we’re just viewing life from a different perspective?
All of "time" exists right now.
NO. "Now" and "Then" are not happening at "the same time" or "simultaneously" in the same "temporal dimension". They are in two different temporal dimensions.
Perhaps, the "paranormal" things we experience here in this time/space are aware of this fact. Perhaps, they fully understand the interconnectedness of all things. And, perhaps, our 'reality' and actions here are actively prohibiting them from achieving a certain goal within their 'reality.'
@@batcollins3714 Wrong.
Yes, at least within this discussion that would be a logical and correct conclusion. Different time position/perspective/location. Which would make sense if we can confirm temporal consciousness is non local and non computational.
Ultimately there are a lot of leaps here that need to be made to make this conclusion. So this is given that we assume these things to be true.
I think realistically this comes mostly back to the true nature of space time itself. And that mostly due to our consciousness we are limited in what we can experience *directly* in space time itself. I think as we learn more about how the brain works, we can start to make more sense of human experiences, which will unveil what's actually going on in the universe.
This channel is going to be huge. Keep doing what you’re doing. Thank you for your efforts
No, I don't think so. Unless your fond of being led by a carrot, to find out it's just a plastic toy.
I don't think they are time travelers, but instead rather a long lost ancient civilization that is probably hidden within our vast deep ocean trench lines. Where they had been dislocated too after catastrophic human cataclysmic events such as the torrid meteor stream which destroyed all the surface of the earth so humans at that earlier time burrowed deep into the earth for survival.
Expect more books from MPM sharing his “secret alien information”
Love how you ended with that clip from CONTACT. Your videos are really great, man!!
I had a very interesting experience in which I was laying in bed when suddenly I was engulfed by cycles of a subtle tingling vibratory sensation that moved in waves across my body. I “rolled out of my body” and somehow thought myself back to my childhood house.
Instantly I discovered that I was standing in the hallway of my childhood home. I decided to walk through the door to my childhood bedroom and saw myself as a child asleep in bed. My younger self woke with a start and looked directly at me.
This younger me looked frightened to see me. My eyes were open wide and there was the appearance of primal fear in my expression. Without a thought I lovingly stated “It’s okay, go back to sleep” and I watched my younger self roll over and go back to sleep.
Upon “waking” in the present day I thought back to my childhood and was able to recall several times in which I woke up and saw somebody or something standing in my room and looking at me.
It was future me looking at past me!
You eat waaay too many mushrooms
That’s cool thank you for sharing
I love this channel so much. I have been neck deep in this for longer than a decade, used to be very active in forums and alike. The timing and significance of what you're talking about and your guests are phenomenal.
I am beyond excited for the near future. If these are time travelers then the oncoming 'singularity' might be a moment of importance. For sure would the development of quantum computer be.
Great video, great listen.
So good! Def haven’t thought of last of these concepts before! Thank you!
Jesse your show never ceases to amaze me. Absolutely incredible content. 🙏 Thank you for all you and your team do to get these fascinating topics more public.
An another excellent podcast mr. Michels. Lightning struck me when Michael Masters briefly mentioned a little voice spoke to him in front of OU's Morton Hall. I have had both math and computerscience classes in Morton Hall. Time travel has been on top of my list too to help explain the phenomenon. But not exclusively. Thank you for another insightful podcast!
Walking up Morton Hill from the Dirty South to get to Alden always sucked. Didnt suck as bad as walking up Jeff Hill though lol
Everytime on this subject when someone wants to prove a theory about Ufo/Uap/Aliens and then puts himself like a protagonist in the narrative, I keep my skepticism alert up high.
This is quickly becoming my top 3 favorite things to watch, the three include: football 🏈, Shawn Ryan show, Jesse Michaels american alchemy
You should try The Why Files
The Shawn Ryan show is also in my top 3 along with this channel and as the other comment suggests, The Why Files is Fuego baby, rounding out the top 3.
Everything you put out is wildly valuable
Excellent and brilliant. Thank you Jesse. The rabbit hole is difficult to grasp, but you are sure helping to shine a light into it. Please keep going.
NASA and the Pentagon have been telling tall tales about UFOs for 28 years. Only illiterate people and criminals have been talking about UFOs for 28 years because, according to my sensational discovery, they are manned star spaceships. Johann Zdebor January 17, 1995
I just read the book "The Extratempestrial model" and it makes an extremely compelling case for them being time travelers. I think it is the best explanation, especially since we seem to see so many different kinds of beings that are all human-like. It makes sense if they are visitors from different points in the future coming to check up on us.
The UFO's we see in our skies are not from 1 singular source, they are *'all of the above'* ---- yes, some are time traveling humans from the distant future. But they are also aliens, non-humans, modern day humans, trans-dimensional beings, and supernatural, higher-level beings. The "time traveling humans" explanation only works for 1 or 2 of the many different species of non-humans/aliens --- if you've spent a good amount of time researching this topic, then you are well aware that MANY different species/beings/entities have been encountered by humans here on earth, its not just the Greys and nothing else. There are numerous accounts of beings of all different types of.shapes and sizes, which could not possibly be evolved from modern day humans --- bc they're not similar at all. So, although 'time-traveling humans from the future' are indeed one explanation, it is in no way, shape, or form the only explanation
Not to mention, the Mexican government alien/non-human bodies, which just got PROVEN 100% real, are not related to humans at all. In fact, 70% of their DNA is of unknown origins. And they look similar to what we call the Greys
...and you just wasted your time while consuming bullshit -
RUclips is censoring the comments. Won't show the two and I will bet one of them is Jonny on the spot hence the censoring
Crocodiles have been on Earth for 500 million years....and still look the same. Great Whites too. Apex predators, like humans, don't evolve like that 🤦♂️
I absolutely love your enthusiasm. Keep going.
Maaaan!! Insaaane! Your videos are perfection ❤ This is the eye of Truth! I come to the same conclusion in my phD thesis about Free Will hiding in the quantum collapse, the mental process that “chooses” the state and that being a singularity that phases within all of us. We need to combine OrchOR with Integrated Information Theory for the orchestration part to explain consciousness at our level. The actualisation of the information filtration at specific neural networks with high Phi is what gives us this conscious experience.
Thank you man 🙏
Great podcast Jesse. Thank you 🙏
During Project Stargate, one of the psychics was given coordinates.. He described everything very well, and it the area they told him to visit, was correct. He was on Mars... 1 million bc... Their planet was already abandoned but there was almost a hologram type person he was talking to. A comet tail ruined the atmosphere. Life became difficult. Most went looking for a new planet. the others went into a hibernation state waiting for them to return.. He was then made to go with them to the new planet. The psychic saw a planet with all these xifferent types of storms. It was going thru changes, but there was a lot of vegetation and growth making it suitable for life.... This is the account he gave. He was one of the most accurate viewers. Joe McGonagall...
Interesting enough, the stories of the anunaki, and Indian deities was 880,000 years ago..... Really made me wonder.
wtf
there's definitely some truth in old stories
@@lamar239 not definitely
yup, i know this one
@@lamar239 The tales and stories that are local to one area aren't the ones that get by brain wondering. Its the stories from different cultures, on all corners of the globe that share similar stories are the ones that get my ears perked up, and curiosity going. Those are the ones I believe may have some validity to them.. As with any type of searching and looking for information, always have to keep the b.s meter out
This is an amazing episode, absolutely love it.💚🙏
Timey wimey, wibly wobly stuff lol! Great vid! Had me on the edge of my seat again!
Jesse deserves millions of subs with these sort of quality productions.
Why does he deserve??
He's rehashing info from ANCIENT ALIENS
No he keeps spreading lies making people lose their credibility
Very excited for Eric Wargo to be on this show. His books are fantastic. Dean Radin would be a good guest as well.
For decades virtually no one has understood me about this. I became convinced of this by 1998 and wrote a little article called An Evolutionary Angle on the Chrononaut Theory (or Chrononauts: An Evolutionary Angle) that appeared in the controversial Dr. David Anderson's "The Space-Time Journal" in 2000 after he saw me on The Time Travel Web Ring in 1999. Finally, I stumbled across the 2030 "The Extratempestrial Model" by Dr. Michael P. Masters (professor of biological anthropology) which, of all things, mentioned my little article after all these years.
That’s cool!
Always thought about this, glad it's a topic worth looking into
Most believable person on this subject I have ever heard. This guy is not bullshitting us.
Which one? Grush, the former Intel agent?
@@xgtwb6473. Former-not former
Although he's partially correct, can tell he hasn't spent much time delving into the UFO subject outside of his own theory/framework. If he had, he would understand that the 'Greys' are just one of MANY different non-human(or future human) entities encountered in succession with UFO encounters. So "time traveling humans from the future" is just one of the many different origins of these beings
Agreed. This is very complex. There are many different types of entities and craft. Their means of travel is outside of space and time. They most certainly CAN get here from there. It just seems like magic to us because we can't do it yet. The extraterrestrial hypothesis is still the most likely. Besides, backwards time travel is impossible without simultaneously creating multiple universes/realities.
Personally I don't believe in the insectoids or the reptillians.
@brenthornick3744 what's with this "there are," as if you're quoting some kind of fact !
@@iniquity123 bc there are. Are you new the UFO topic? It's not a belief, it is a FACT based on mountains of evidence. Educate yourself
yes
Great video . Well researched he’d and def seems to be Threads coming together these days
Hi Jesse, this is really terrific. Thank you! Will there by a transcript available?
What about the supposed 70 species of alien who we have had encounters with? Those sulfurous guys from Varginha, Brazil? It would be nice if we are on the verge of a Star Trek-like existence. But it could be much more whacked-out I guess.
Star Trek had plenty of extra-temporal aliens and time traveling humans, amongst all the other typical ET...
He addresses this when they are talking about the frequency of the humanoid like aliens being 65 percent. He didn't say that the humanoids are the only type of alien.
Dude. This channel is a whole other level of excellence. The content, the guests, the editing, the discussions, the journalism etc.
Excellent! Really enjoyed watching this!
I don't think they are time travelers, but instead rather a long lost ancient civilization that is probably hidden within our vast deep ocean trench lines. Where they had been dislocated too after catastrophic human cataclysmic events such as the torrid meteor stream which destroyed all the surface of the earth so humans at that earlier time burrowed deep into the earth for survival.
You said it dude 👍
Fascinating conversation. Bravo!
Love the content! Keep it coming! 🚀
OMG I finally acknowledge the reality of UFOs and now I have to buy into telekinesis, time travel, bigfoot … I didn’t sign up for all of this!
Its all gobbledygook
Bigfoot 😂
My greatest successes with remote viewing were when I was targeting the moment of feedback - and the more I analyzed the photo or scene, the more detailed the impressions I received from the signal line were
So as an example, I would focus on the scene in the photo I would find on page "x", and when I eventually saw the photo I would thoroughly analyze the photo
you're just a fool being toyed with by demonic entities....
Can you explain further?
@@robertlambert4514 I will close my eyes (not necessary), notice whatever thoughts might be there, then think about the image I would find in a specific place( ex. top left image) - I can even think about the first image I will find in a Google image search for the first random word I find in a dictionary. In that same moment I will get an impression, and they are easy to recognize because I've already identified my "residual thoughts". That's really all there is to it.
When I go to the page, or do the Google search, I will make an effort to analyze the photo - that is, I might imagine what it would be like to be there, notice something unique about it, whatever.
@@aaronscottmatthews7883that made absolutely no sense?
I tried... not sure how to dumb what I wrote down. I should say that I wrote that for someone who knows what I mean when I say 'signal line' . Signal line refers to the psychic impressions come from. @@dom85ross
I thought this for awhile now. Im glad someone is setting light on the topic.
The guy who owns skinwalker ranch now is turning the place into a theme park attraction. He's a business man.
The intro montage for this channel is easily my all time favorite. Never change it.
51:15 is a reference to the movie Contact (1997)
The 18 hours of static recorded by the machine's video camera is super important. It means that even though Dr. Ellie Arroway's trip seemed to last only a few seconds to those watching from Earth, the camera actually recorded 18 hours of static. This suggests that her journey through the wormholes, where she experienced many hours of events, really happened.
My favorite movie
great episode Jesse, I like how you ended it with the "Contact" clip.
Outstanding work!
hey jesse have you heard the interview "Art Bell MITD - Mad Man Markum - Time Traveler" he talks about making a plasma vortex using ultra high voltage to jump himself 2 years and 800miles into the future but caused himself severe amnesia
There's no point second guessing as we just don't have enough evidence for what these entities may be. If we jump to conclusions, this subject becomes no better than religion!
Gem of a channel, keep up the incredible interviews
Keep pushing Jesse! Awesome content 🙌
I don’t have much to look forward to these days, your videos give me some excitement and I want too thankyou for that.
Keep up the entertaining content you constantly give us man !
Excellent! Huge fan of Dr. Masters! Jesse your approach to crafting these episodes is so good. Keep up the fantastic work.
Great job bro!
Good job on making this..
Well, it is a bit hard to imagine the human species survived long enough to concur time travel. From this pov, it’s easier to think the observers come from a distant planet or a nearby dimension.
You just have an incorrect view of why the earth is the way it is….
Humans arent destroying the world… it goes through cycles.
@@Synic08 Do you think humans expanding at an ever increasing rate through population and then using ever more resources through consumerism that uses materials/petroleum that arent infinite isnt hurting the earth but just going through cycles?
@@Synic08well it is more complicated than that. Yes Earth goes through cycles, and Human activity likley could not cause all life on Earth to end. But our activity could change the climate/environment enough where it is no longer habitable for humans or other complex life forms on the planet
We better not cause all life to cease. Without irrefutable evidence that life exists outside of our own planet's.... we Earthlings might be the *only* life. To jeopardize the spark of life for ease of our individual lifestyle simply isn't a sound idea.@@jamesmichael7448
Why would they look humanoid and have sex with us? Why would they be seeding technology for us?
I love MM and this was a great episode Jesse ! I do however have one gripe, why cant it just be really advanced aliens doing all those same things, not TT? because implications can be considered and drawn for each.
Such an amazing interview!! @ 37 min
Thanks Jesse. Good program as usual.
You deserve soooo much more subscribers man! I absolutely love your professional, interesting and fun to watch videos!
I agree! Share this video around lets get Jesse the subs he deserves!!
No. If he is going to keep flip flopping on his beliefs then I'm not interested.
There’s some issues with this concept of future humans that interacts with humans in our time, if that’s true then you have to consider that also our visitors are in the same type of situation and being visited by a future humans that are monitoring them and perhaps are correcting things that will benefit them in someway. It’s like a never ending loop…..
I've thought this for years! I'm excited to watch this!
Another gem...cant wait to watch this, Jesse! Love the work youre doing. Keep at it!
This is excellent and very interesting. The only thing I'd suggest that might widen the possibilities - these beings may be from another dimensions or planes that correspond with our planet or, they're a break away civilization thay separated from us in the past and started their own branch of evolution.
The explanation might also be completely outside of possibilities we've considered.
Beings dont necessarily have to be time travellers to have similar genetics.
Whatever they are - it's going to be a massive paradigm shift!
This was an episode of aeon flux back in the 90's. They perfectly explained it in 22 minutes with limited dialogue.
This video was put together good!!!!!
This was awesome. I'm lucky enough to have seen how a UFO shows up, and it's spectacular. Last November on a crystal clear night, it was cold, -15c, I started seeing weird lights in the sky. To the east, I filmed what most call "Racetrack" lights. I was pretty blown away by that on its own. About 2 minutes later, I'm now looking to the west, pitch black. Suddenly a super thick cloud/vapour starts rapidly building up. Very tight and concentrated, not spread out. Then something starts coming through it! Now this is all going down really fast. But I can start to make out that the leading edge is Cresent shaped. This thing just punches through and is dragging cloud/vapour with it. It's in a right hand bank, so I'm looking at it's belly. Its so fucking low, I'm thinking it's crashing. The vapour dissipates, and I can see it clear shape. It's a fucking huge, Manta Ray shapped craft. (Minus the mouth) dwarfs all the houses around. At 500ft of separation, it's at least 250ft tip to tip. If it was higher than that, then it's massive. Fuxking thing just levels out, and flys north. No sound, no lights, no wind. This thing in it's proximity should have blown me to the ground with air displacement. Just silently pulls up and flys away.
It was like a sci fi movie in real time. So ya, it had to have an aspect of time travel, or dimensional travel. As it didn't fly in, it popped in and flew away.
Demons
Several years ago I also happened to observe a UFO. I was on a hike on Lake Seliger. This lake is located in Russia, in the Tver region, approximately 380 km northwest of Moscow. The events took place in May. I was on an island in the middle of a lake. I fished during the day and was lucky enough to catch a pike. At about 21:00 I started preparing the fish. Therefore, I did not look up or to the sides, but my attention was directed to the process of cleaning the fish. However, I still happened to look up. And I went crazy! In the sky, which was gray in color, because despite the late time of day due to the northern location of this area the sky does not completely darken in May, I saw a huge dark triangle. This object hovered motionless in the sky at an altitude of probably about 200 m. Its dimensions were gigantic. Interestingly, red flashes of light appeared rhythmically at all the vertices of this triangle. The same flashes occurred at some distance from the vertices of the triangle. Their rhythm was not synchronous with the rhythm of the first flashes. I was very scared. At that time I was in a wild, sparsely populated area far from settlements. I heard about UFOs abducting people. And I thought that if this happens to me, no one will know. There was a fire next to me where I was going to cook fish. At first I thought of putting out the fire so as not to attract the attention of the aliens. But then I decided that they would most likely discover me without this. So I continued preparing food and tea. The object remained in its place. I ate and sat near the fire. The fear gradually went away as nothing happened. I observed the UFO until about 02:00. Then I went to bed, since it was cold and there were no new phenomena. What is most surprising is that the next evening I again observed such an object, only in a slightly different sector of the sky. So I saw huge triangular UFOs 2 days in a row.