Why USB3 Type-C Isn’t on More Cases | How Cables Are Made Factory Tour
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2019
- This factory tour shows how cables are made, especially USB 3.1 Type-C cables, in SanDian's factory in China. Cooler Master uses this factory for its cables.
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Part of this factory's testing is to establish that its USB 3 and Type-C cables actually reach rated speeds (some factories make fake USB 3 cables that don't reach speeds advertised), but it also looks at how long USB cables actually last by doing endurance connection cycle testing. The factory's primary job is to manufacture and assemble cables of all kinds, including HD Audio, front panel, and USB cables, and sell said cables to case manufacturers, phone manufacturers, or other partners in the industry. This factory does about 80,000 cables total per month, or up to 25,000 USB cables per month.
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Factory tour playlist here! ruclips.net/video/Y1Tmtd51clI/видео.html
Learn how copper heatpipes are made here: ruclips.net/video/AD-4WKwCAfE/видео.html
And learn how motherboards are made here: ruclips.net/video/cnAFTMaS5R0/видео.html
I'm really enjoying this video series, but there's this music that plays through my head on every one LOL ruclips.net/video/CzEA0_ZojIo/видео.html
Votes How It's Made Tech Jesus edition becomes an annual thing.
i would have thought, the cable production process would have been way way more automated, so really surprising for me, thx for those videos, quite interesting and surprising at times.
Aluminum wires, grrrr. If I had a dollar for every time I ordered a cable with the expectation I could modify it for another purpose, only for it to end up being Aluminum instead of copper. I hate working with Aluminum wire, I have no clue how others think you can solder aluminum wire without getting cold solder joints, lol. OK, I'll go back to gawking at Klingon ships by the Gelato dispensers, lol.
Great stuff Steve and crew, B)
Maybe slow down the narration a bit? It isnt a race. I'd love to sit back and relax while I take your vids in. This is exhausting. I work in manufacturing so I like to get a basic understanding of what the process is and what the machine is doing visually before you cut to the next scene. Some of this is complex stuff from the machinery and controls aspect.
I definitely have a new found respect for USB-C.
I use it all the time. It's the bees knees.
External hard drive, cell phone, PC, etc...
Nocturnal 007 And I don’t have a single device which uses usb-c 😬
I know, last (USB C to USB A) cable I bought was at Dollar Tree (where everything is $1). I mean, it works, charged my phone and transferred the 50 GB of video pretty fast. What is more shocking are some of the $1 to $2 HDMI cables I've bought online, those things were seriously tough. I had my PS3 on the floor of my bedroom, and every day I must have tripped over that cord and yanked it out probably 3x per day on average. Cable lasted over a year... 15 ft HDMI cable for $2 that can do that, crazy when people spend $50 on a "heavy duty" or just regular HDMI from a store like BestBuy, like come on, is everyone else like me and seriously tripping over the cable and shutting the door on it several times a day? I wouldn't be abusing a $50 cable that way though!
Edit: added that it was a USB C for my phone
@@jakegarrett8109 for 120hz I had to get an expensive HDMI cable cause most don't support that update rate
For me I have a new found y respect for the workers and companies making them, I thought it was largely automated, never thought there were so many points of quality control required for one cable.
It's like an episode of How It's Made, hosted by Tech Jesus.
Was thinking of the exact same thing!
It basically is a episode of that.
But more detailed
Just as addictive. 👍
These are great!
I love the high tech enclosure for that machine around 3:49.
I also love the tours. Actually.
Safety first!
@@erko4 The cardboard is probably for exactly what Steve said it was for, to contain all the waste.
OSHA certified machine guarding.
It might actually just be there for the video.
You could live in there after you're done working.
That explains why the industry is slow in moving to Type-C
@Tadas Nanartonis The most useless tech i ever see !
@Tadas Nanartonis I think he meant the industries such as cell phones and computers (as in consumer products) not industry in general.
@Tadas Nanartonis I have an old pc that doesn't have usb3 and had the intention of adding a pci card for that thinking that it is too slow. While using an external HDD I noticed transfer speeds of over 30MB/s. Decent enough for my needs. Often people are tricked that usb2 is slow because they judge it by the speeds of reading/writing usb flashdrives.
@@sobolanul96 USB2 is slow, You're the one limiting the use case to file data transfer. USB-C/Thunderbolt are expected to push high resolution displays, two way GPU pass through, Ethernet and a host of standard USB devices passing data back and fourth from a single port.
Consumer devices are quickly moving toward USB-C specifically for its multi-purpose high data rate capabilities but also its variable profile based powder delivery capabilities.
The Nintendo Switch uses it for the same display/ethernet/device connection modern laptops are using.
The reason people want it as front I/O on desktop cases is because for many the upgrade cycle is slower than other devices and they don't want to be left without the capability before the next upgrade when every other device they use has switched to type-c.
Because USB3.0 is more than enough for 99% of the use cases. Type-C is only needed for mobiles devices and laptops for its small size and functionality. Plus most of our devices still uses USB-A
Wow it's crazy how much manual work goes into these.
These indepth factory tours are absolutely amazing, Thanks GN team!
It certainly is interesting to see it.
I really don't mind paying the extra 10 bucks or whatever for a USB type C that's validated on a PC case. Love this kind of content too, I love seeing this side of things. Usually only ever see the finished product and not the work and tech that goes into making it.
But your extra money won't reach down the manual labour.
You guys should create a playlist that includes all the factory tour videos you've been doing recently. It would make it really easy in the future for us to come back to them. Great work regardless!
They have, it's pinned to this video
Imagine doing these for 8-12 hours a day 😵 what a soul crushing jobs.
While watching this I was thinking how quickly I would go insane if I had to do jobs like this day-in and out. Soul crushing is the perfect way to describe it, don't know how they do it.
I've worked in manufacturing. It's a job. Tedious work builds character.
@@spell105 be happy in your work
Employees might not do the same thing all day long. In the production plant I used to work people would be switched with each other every few hours. So that there's some variation in monotony.
I hope they have other jobs places to rotate people around in that factory, because yes, I fear for the sanity of these people!
6:26 6 cables per hour??? That's 10 minutes per cable!!
r/theydidthemath
There's also 24 wires to separate, order, put a comb on, and tape up. I'm also assuming they're also doing both sides of the cable, so it's actually 5 minutes per end, which is actually a really decent time to do this in.
If you think this process takes too long, you've clearly never made any kind of cable before.
@@xaytana Still seems excessive (I mean, you can build a nice looking computer in 30 minutes). I can solder up a quadcopter in 30 minutes too (3 wires per motor, a signal wire for each motor from the motor drivers to the flight controller, camera to flight controller and power wires, then to video transmitter needs power wires, flight controller to receiver (both also need power wires)). If I had my stuff laying out on the table ready to go, it would take like 8 to 10 minutes for a quadcopter build if I'm just soldering and have the motors already bolted to the frame and have it planned out.
Wires always do seem to take longer than they should, but I don't own a crimp tool, so I always have to make do with just a pair of pliers if I'm making a non-soldered cable. I'm a little surprised it takes 5 minutes per side though, that seems really long to me (I'm sure it would take me 3x longer the first time, but if that's my only job, I would think 3 minutes max per side, so 10 cables per hour)
@@jakegarrett8109 I'd like you to actually time a job. Do this a few times so you get used to it. Then you'll get a realistic time frame for how long things take.
I'd be surprised if a machine is not invented for doing this part.
People think a lot of manufacturing is all automated. It's not really.
Even here in the UK all marine cables are pretty much made by hand or are only semi-automated (ie: for MCIL connector types it is semi-automated). Subsea fibre cables that stretch hundreds of miles have been spliced, by people like me, using fusion splicing tools and then injection moulding Polyurethane after cleaning, shielding & such...
It's a stressful job at times
If this isn't high quality technical and industry journalism, I don't know what is. I also appreciate the interest in the workers' condition, that's what makes this journalism. Bravo.
I love the mix of off-the-shelf and custom hardware they hacked together to make things as efficient as they have. But man, it's crazy how much more work a Type C cable is...
This is great. I love that you covered cables since it's often considered a cheap product that's probably fully machined automaticaly. This goes to show how much work goes into the creation of these products.
Just want to say thank you for those awesome factory and manufactur tours. Every single one of them was and surely will be superb, thank you!
Thank you!
@@GamersNexus Any news on XL gaming mouse pad? i'd love a dark colored one from GN!
Awesome job, GN crew! And shout out to CoolerMaster going the extra mile to extend cable lifespan. Respect 👍
This is one of the most impressive shows of quality control I've ever seen, goddamn awesome
Thanks Steve for the nostalgia, my first job was at a cable factory in Hungary. :)
I had no idea how much work goes into this stuff. I've been watching the factory tours playlist and have even more respect for factory workers.
Great behind the scenes tour. Very impressed. Thank you Steve. Great job on the narrating. 👍
Gamers nexus literally offers more knowledge & much higher production value than what Discovery channel would
But he doesn't have that classic 'How It's Made' music.
This is the German "Sendung mit der Maus" in tech form I absolutely love it. Must be a lot of effort for your Team. Keep it up!
I love these factory tours, you're showing a side of the PC world I'm interested in but have never seen.
Most people have NO IDEA how things are made...and just how complex it is to make sure all things work together seamlessly. Great detail here. Thanx much!
I found this really helpful, & I appreciate the look into the manufacturing side of the user experience.
This is the kind of content I find exceptional value in. Thanks GN.
they take the dinglepop and they smooth it out with a bunch of schleem. The schleem is then repurposed for later batches. They take the dinglebop and they push it through the grumbo, where the fleeb is rubbed against it. It's important that the fleeb is rubbed, because the fleeb has all of the fleeb juice.
getting schwifty in here
A push on the pushem and a pull on the pullem, or is it pull the pushem and push the pullem?
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Excellent coverage, Steve. I love how this shows both automation and operator assembly. Only thing I'm surprised at was how one bench guy was plugging plug/pin connections without some type of guide.
I LOVE this. To some people, these factory tours are boring for boring items, but it is great insight into manufacturing.
Next Noctua Fans how it's made!?
This kind of content is top tier! Not only does it give me a new found appreciation for the tech in my case it educates me. Take my like!
Thanks for giving us a better appreciation of the tech we take for granted.
These types of videos are just incredible. I really appreciate the hard work you guys put into your content. Thank you!
Excellent work Steve. Very cool stuff that we don't really see anywhere else. Cant even be mad about the cost of USB-C cables anymore...
What a great channel, you guys have become. I remember when you just started. Content was A+ right from the beginning.
This was way more interesting than I thought initially... Good job GN!
Kick ass video. I would love to see more videos like this one. Reminds me of the TV show “How it’s made”. But only about computer stuff instead of just anything. Love it. Keep up the good work. Thanks
9:32 Looks like they are assembling turrets for GLaDOS :O
Love these tours. Gaining a lot of respect for these people, Not that I didn't already respect them but love having seen how it's done.
I love this series you guys have been doing with the "how its made" for tech fans. It's great!
Nice video, thanks. That series of factory tour is amazing !
7:30 First time I see a wave-soldering machine.
It's crazy how we don't even think about the work that goes into something so "simple" as a cable. It's pretty eye opening sometimes. And it makes me appreciate the work these people have to do every day a lot more.
Wish this video was 2x longer, those were some interesting machines. Looking forward to more factory tours
Impressed as ever by your hard work guys. Keep it up, it's highly appreciated.
That was a thoroughly cool tour. Thank you.
Thank you for the additional information on the working conditions in these factories. It's interesting to know how the workers preparing our hobby, or professional, items are treated.
This was super fascinating. Thanks for making this video!
All the labor that goes into making a pc case, gotta appreciate that.
This is really really cool. Please more videos like this
I really never gave much thought into the cable making process before. Thanks!
Steve, a man who boldy goes where no man has gone before! (Ty love these videos!)
Monotonous but necessary work. Great tour vid GN
Love those factory tours, keep em going!
GN content is really top class, these series of factory tours are solid. Maybe sometime you can actually let us have the CPU clean room factory videos, especially the multi million dollar ASML system phases too, please ? Thank you Tech Jesus !
Amazing content guys. These factory tours put you well ahead of anyone in the tech space currently. As if you weren't already, but hey.. Very well done, I'm impressed.
This certainly explains why USB-C is so expensive. It's almost crazy-talk seeing how each cable is manually made, and upwards of 10 minutes per cable!? Damn. I've always assumed that most/all cheap cables are fully made by machines.
Now I know why I could only find a handful of cases with a USB type c front panel connector.
Wow. Loving this series my man!
This is the best GN content series so far
A technical ad. Thank THE MAKER !! I book marked the link.
Thanks Steve and team this is really good content
@GamersNexus all these tours are AMAZING! Thanks a lot for doing them, very interesting to see how all the goodies we love are made :D
Great video guys!
I’m so “wired up” with the tour videos... another great coverage
Thanks for all ways doing something different that is still informative and interesting.
This type of work would drive me crazy. No way I could do this. I've done repetitive work and it sucks. Mix repetitive and fiddly and no way I could do it.
poor peoples they are only objects for the boss of factory.
...and this is why these jobs are mostly outside the US.
There are people who like such repetitive work. A friend of mine used to work in some kind of plug factory and really liked it there despite the low pay.
Would be nothing for me.
Hopefully the workers at least get to switch between different tasks internally at the plant, so that they get at least a bit of variation. I do hope someone comes up with a way to automate a lot more of the USB-C production, because this seems like a bit of a nightmare to make. No wonder it's more expensive.
That's why every bloody thing is made in bloody China these days.
I really enjoy these series thankyou personally
That was mesmerizing.
Wow Respect to all the workers, didn't know that it was that complicated or not machined.
Very informative. Really enjoyed this.
That was so cool to watch!
Somebody needs to do some serious work on automating Type-C cables. That's just a ridiculous amount of manual intervention.
It actually can be done. I am not sure if these are the only guys or one of the few guys who can't build newer machines to fit the purpose. I guess the major factor here is dexterity and precision. I think some companies may have already thought about this as a business opportunity and started building their own USB C cable routing machines.
This cant be the most advanced usb c production, more like pc cables favtory added new line for the usb c order from cooler master
@@SahilP2648 its certainly is, but it will cost a fortune. Manual labor might cost a lot more in the long run, but it is flexible(cable length and whatnot) and provide lower risk for small factory
I think part of the problem is that it'd take too long for it to pay for itself.
The cost of labor is so cheap, it is more costly to automate. As machines develop AI to repeat human motions, it could be cheaper to automate.
love love these types of videos. plz make more, gfx card one? SSDs? idc they are all ~typically~ pretty cool processes
Love these factory tours!
Love the factory tours
Wow I never knew it was so complicated and so many steps needed for usb c wires to be made.
I will definitely pay the extra to get USB-C ports in the front. I don't want to reach out to the back of my graphics cards all the time.
Went with an intermediate option and got some USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 male to female extension cords. Not the neatest solution but it makes those rear ports much easier to access.
If u wanna go ghetto, you can buy panel mount USB C ports
I actually kinda plan to build such a thing into my NZXT case. Some watter cutting required though.
If you didn't get ripped off and your case is normal then it should have un-populated front drive bays....take the blank out and insert the USB 3.2 panel you bought online that also controls fans, tells temps, and reads memory cards all while relaying this info in rgb lighting....you can buy these with included pci e card and wiring to reach the front and back of computer....well under 100 bucks. always been an option unless you got suckered into buying these hot -no room for optical/hard drive cases the entertainment business / cloud storage is pushing.
the little things that matter. thank you steve!
What I find incredible are the people that designed the machines to make these cables...Those are the real geniuses...
Ty Steve for this awesome factory tour ! Quality content like always !
Very coo. This explains A LOT!
I like factory tours . Good vid .
Man, those cables are ridiculously complex! There has to be a simpler (but equally good) cable design that could be used instead.
I do love these tours, I must say :)
Yeah it's called TYPE A. Is it so hard to plug in a cable? Why isn't HDMI or power cables designed like this? If you expect complexity, you should expect to be able to handle with such complexity.
@@silverhawkroman He obviously meant ridiculously complex to MANUFACTURE...
Duh!
That was awesome. Cool post.
Great stuff. Thanks GN
I really enjoy these.
I love this. Idk why, but I just do. Keep up the good work!
I always figured the price was due to a human factor of USB 3.0 production but I had NO IDEA how many people and how much time goes into each one. Makes me super appreciative and grateful that they do have all those QA steps down the production line to save money. All for a parts that are usually less than $30 depending on the setup. Make me wonder if the incredible amount of automation in panel manufacturing is the root cause of so many negative reviews or it's just the fact people are more inclined to complain about a $1K product vs one that's a few bucks.
At 9:00 there must be some analyzer that can be made instead of using a PC. For example network cables have it. And because of the high cycling you just make a replaceable pcb board you can fix new type c connectors as they fail.
that was really cool and I have new respect for the cost of USB-C. Oh and Cooler Master. I understand they have an agenda with these but I dont mind. Please keep bringing these!!
I hate to see outlets like this get such low viewership, and hope there is another avenue of content you can evolve into if necessary. This is the kind of quality I expect from national news networks and they don't even deliver. Great work from such small beginnings.
Wow, some eye-opening footage here. I really thought cable-manufacturing were mostly automated. Very interesting video.
Very interesting. Thanks.
What I really like of this video is the camera focus.
wow really great, love learning about this stuff...
It is somewhat unbelievable to see that so much is done manually. I mean, there are so sophisticated machines with computer vision etc. in other industries I would think that a machine could be developed to also do everything that these cables require!
Great video! I enjoyed the insight it grants. There would have been much more automation for type C cables if they had just made USB side-neutral back when they first released it. Hopefully there are folks working on further automation to bring the costs down; it's 2019 and I still hate having to plug in type A cables.
I can honestly say this was the most interesting to me so far clever little ideas these USB fellas have but obviously don't think about production .....well not too much anyway
Fascinating.
That is a crazy amount of QC, gotta give props to them for that.