E1S0 Jiaoqiu x E0S1 Acheron in Every Endgame Content

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @MenoHSR
    @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +3

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  • @misanthrope16166
    @misanthrope16166 5 месяцев назад +133

    MoC: 0 cycle
    AS: 1482 remaining action value
    PF: 40k points

    • @Badieon
      @Badieon 5 месяцев назад +54

      Worth noting that Kafka has 40% lightning resistance

    • @kaseyatakahashi9753
      @kaseyatakahashi9753 5 месяцев назад +6

      Its not 40 it's a lot more in as

    • @Qopa
      @Qopa 5 месяцев назад

      Him outside of acheron tho 😂

    • @Vash_wrio
      @Vash_wrio 5 месяцев назад +46

      @@Qopa im sorry to burst your bubble but he clears in the same cycle as Ruan Mei in DOT Teams and is as good as a debuffer vs Topaz E1S1 in FUA Teams. Furthermore, why would you need him outside of Acheron when she can clear all 3 Modes?

    • @kaelferreira4964
      @kaelferreira4964 5 месяцев назад +30

      @@Qopa About the same as Ruan mei and Robin in Dot and better than Topaz (E0) in Ratio teams.
      Yeah he's completely fine

  • @fredyjunaidi146
    @fredyjunaidi146 5 месяцев назад +16

    The most clean build i've ever see, dayum

  • @MenoHSR
    @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +23

    Acheron's relic set might be wrong but doesn't matter that much.
    MOC Turbulence:
    After every attack launched by an ally, apply 1 stack of Memory Imprint to all allies. Allies in the Memory Imprint state deal 8% more DMG. This effect stacks up to 6 time(s). When Memory Imprint reaches max stacks, immediately deals 1 instance of DMG to all enemies based on a certain percentage of their respective Max HP. Remove all Memory Imprints from all allies at the start of every wave or Cycle.
    AS Turbulence:
    When an enemy unit with Steadfast Safeguard is Weakness Broken, all allies' actions are Advanced Forward by 100%, and their Ultimates are activated. Follow-up attack DMG received by all enemies increases by 15%, increases and Counter DMG by 25%.
    AS Blessing:
    Increase CRIT DMG dealt by all allies' Skill by 40%, with an additional increase of 40% against targets who are Weakness Broken.
    PF Turbulence:
    When allies use their Ultimate to attack an enemy target, inflicts the target with Shatter, stacking up to 6 time(s). At the start of the target's turn or when the target is defeated, deals a set amount of DMG to the target and adjacent targets based on the number of Shatter stacks.
    PF Blessing:
    When enemy targets with Shatter are defeated, increases DMG dealt by Ultimate for all allies in this battle by 15%, stacking up to 20 times.

  • @angkhangmac3927
    @angkhangmac3927 5 месяцев назад +7

    bro strategy so good

  • @Zevyne
    @Zevyne 5 месяцев назад +142

    I don’t even care about the dmg comparison between him and his alternatives. I’ll get him just because he feeds acherons ult like crazy

    • @Fedeeew
      @Fedeeew 5 месяцев назад +11

      And with Acheron e2 should be crazier.

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 5 месяцев назад +14

      Haters dont realize that two a bit less powerful ults are better than 1 slightly more powerful ult. That and that his damage buffs are better than the other debuffer options.

    • @dalodulo1373
      @dalodulo1373 4 месяца назад +1

      This is the entire reason I want him as well. Some folks didn't get to see the bug that swan had. She did very similar to what he does with charging acheron. It's nuts. The fact he's a better debuffer on top of that?

    • @santabakure6264
      @santabakure6264 4 месяца назад

      @@Fedeeewand that’s how you get your Acheron ult in one turn

  • @BlueeCatss
    @BlueeCatss 5 месяцев назад +25

    The Acheron pieces are fine, but the supports, holy mother of god those substats are unrealistic

    • @ceizhore4498
      @ceizhore4498 5 месяцев назад +9

      this is why you should spend your resin on wind set

    • @theteamxxx3142
      @theteamxxx3142 5 месяцев назад +1

      Getting 6-7 speed is hard but not that hard and the rest is whatever just some HP def then if u get crit dmg rate atk etc u’ll min max when u don’t have anything to do

    • @oussamaalaoui9121
      @oussamaalaoui9121 4 месяца назад

      Me with my 8 speed relics

    • @Primotheus2504
      @Primotheus2504 4 месяца назад +1

      160spd WindVon is expected to be the norm if you want to maximize your team, ig farming Wind set is kind of the way to go

  • @jaredtew3302
    @jaredtew3302 5 месяцев назад +21

    Wow i was looking for this video! Tysmm
    How much difference is e0s0 vs e1s0 jiaoqiu
    Cuz im kinda planing to get e1 to get even more dmg for acherkn

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +5

      the dmg increase for acheron is ~17% and ~28% for other dps (assuming dmg boost for acheron is 128% with lightning orb and 3 stacks of ascension trace and 38% for other dps)

    • @levi3248
      @levi3248 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@MenoHSRisn’t Acheron better with an ATK orb than a lightning one though, since she gets so much dmg% from her kit?
      (Especially with Jiaoqiu and with E1 Jiaoqiu, you’d definitely want an ATK orb to a lightning one)

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +11

      @@levi3248 yes it's better but i'd choose which one that has better subs

    • @DeckBlack22
      @DeckBlack22 4 месяца назад

      Acheron E0S1: Base ATK - 1333, ATK - 192.1% (orb 43.2%, rope - 43.2%, sub - 10.7%, Sparkle E1 - 55%, Traces - 28%, Relics - 12%), 392 flat ATK, Skill Mult 1, DMG 194% (Ult 90%, Traces - 8%, Light Cone - 48%, Sparkle - 48%), DEF mult vs 95 lvl - 0.465, RES Mult vs Lightning - 1.2, DMG Taken mult - 1.5 (Jiaoqiu), Break Mult - 0.9, No Crit, No A4
      Jiaoqiu E0S0 - 9491
      E1S0 - 10782
      E0S1 - 11010
      E1S1 - 12508

  • @noivern4346
    @noivern4346 4 месяца назад

    I just realized I was using Acheron wrong the whole yesterday (I know, shocking what you learn when you use your eyeballs.) so I’ll probably be using her more only problem is that I want Jiaoqiu, Feixiao, and Lingsha. RIP bank account.

  • @NocturnalSea
    @NocturnalSea 4 месяца назад +2

    crazy how none of them have lightning weakness

  • @ttoki01
    @ttoki01 5 месяцев назад +10

    Those acheron relic stats so good :( I am jealous

    • @wandersonvitor3054
      @wandersonvitor3054 5 месяцев назад +1

      ...what? The relics are actually very acessible, I would be impressed if his Acheron had like 4k ATK, 70/250 CRIT ratio and 4 pieces pioneer

    • @wandersonvitor3054
      @wandersonvitor3054 5 месяцев назад +4

      But his sups relics are insane, Jiaoqiu and Pela both with 160+ speed, 4 pieces wind, 2 pieces vonwacq and still managed to get more than 160% EHR on Jiaoqiu

    • @Azrael.
      @Azrael. 5 месяцев назад +5

      It’s cuz it’s the beta so he just makes the relics himself

    • @anrye
      @anrye 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@wandersonvitor3054... he's using a lightning dmg orb and still has 3.8k

    • @pinkinglily6447
      @pinkinglily6447 4 месяца назад

      ​@@Azrael.Its not beta, its private server. I heard that in private server you can control subrolls in the game. I believe that most, if not all, 0 cycle showcases uses private server

  • @monbebehere1607
    @monbebehere1607 5 месяцев назад +4

    Can you please do this with dot if you haven’t already? Or give me advice on if I should pull him for my Kafka? I don’t have black swan but I main Kafka and Acheron. I know he’s good for Acheron but I don’t need him for her as my Acheron clears end game content easily but I want to know if he is also worth it for Kafka because then I would have more use for him on my account. Thanks

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +2

      @@monbebehere1607 if you dont need jiaoqiu for acheron then you dont want to pull him because there's a lot of options for dot that perform similarly or better than jiaoqiu (ruan mei, robin) and since black swan is probably near you should pull for her instead of jiaoqiu.

    • @monbebehere1607
      @monbebehere1607 5 месяцев назад

      @@MenoHSR thank you! I usually run e2 Acheron with sparkle and wind set pela or sw so I was thinking of going for black swan but I am a little worried about how black swan has aged or will age like maybe they’ll release another dot unit but probably not for a while now with JQ

    • @Fedeeew
      @Fedeeew 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@monbebehere1607I think black swan will stay on the meta for a long time until some better dot character comes, i don't think hoyoverse will bring us a new character for dots in a long time since jiaoqiu come at the game.

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 5 месяцев назад

      @@monbebehere1607 to add to other comments, Jiaoqiu is actually pretty good on those teams for Black Swan’s dot stacks since he has burn. Also, Black Swan is def better than Jiaoqiu for dot, just because she is more designed for dot than Jiaoqiu is. If you like Jiaoqiu, I would say get him if you also plan on getting Black Swan and if you already have Huo Huo since she is technically better for dot than Jiaoqiu.
      Edit: this is only meta standpoint, if you don’t like Huo Huo or Ruan Mei, then I recommend you to just get Black Swan or Jiaoqiu if you like them more.

  • @pacifistdiobelike9398
    @pacifistdiobelike9398 5 месяцев назад +7

    They just have to nerf jiaoqiu AGAIN! Now his ult can only trigger 6 times not infinity every enemies's turn

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 5 месяцев назад +1

      You don’t got to worry too much since in practice, if he has an ERR rope, it will only trigger around 4 times in MoC and Apoc before you can use it again. The only concern with this is PF but the herta shop light one basically fixes that

  • @BUSSAID
    @BUSSAID 4 месяца назад

    Plz try using gepard with trend if universal market insted of Gallagher the acheron staks will fill like crazy

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  4 месяца назад +8

      you dont need trend anymore with jiaoqiu since the max stacks generated per enemy turn is 1

  • @unendingvoid
    @unendingvoid 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hey! Thoughts on E1 vs S1 jiaoqiu? Id love to get him for my ratio and acheron

    • @yllemini5092
      @yllemini5092 5 месяцев назад

      If you have Eyes of the Prey lc his is kinda very MEH to get. E1 provides a lot of dmg for the team.

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 5 месяцев назад

      E1 has better QoL and Dmg overall, but his lightcone makes building him easier as well as being versatile in DoT teams if you play him for that. I’d recommend both if you have the pulls, but that’s pretty unrealistic 😭

    • @unendingvoid
      @unendingvoid 5 месяцев назад

      @@kwaakwoo yeah I definitely can't get both cause I'm aiming for Lingsha immediately after him. I'll have to decide when he comes out. I'll probably get his LC because of that 60% EHR and since it's more vulnerability debuff on his lc and not just regular dmg buff

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  4 месяца назад +1

      If you have alot of DMG% increase (usually acheron) S1, if not E1 since Vulnerability from S1 is actually rare

  • @40WarlocksJulian
    @40WarlocksJulian 4 месяца назад +1

    Use quid pro qouo on gallagher

  • @peppathedemonslayer5338
    @peppathedemonslayer5338 5 месяцев назад

    e2s1 acheron, pela, sparkle
    or
    e1s1 acheron, jiaoqiu, pela
    (if im not lucky enough to get both e2 and jiaoqiu)
    I have e0s1 acheron at the moment, im planning what should i invest in her next

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +1

      e0s1 acheron jq pela is slightly better than e2s1 acheron pela sparkle and lower cost

    • @theteamxxx3142
      @theteamxxx3142 5 месяцев назад +2

      E2s1 acheron + JQ + Robin + gallagher (with QPQ) as beat comp
      JQ>E2

  • @annabs3929
    @annabs3929 5 месяцев назад +1

    Is Jiaoqiu good with every dps? I wanted to pl him for his looks but if he doesn't work with hypercarry or break units I might just skip him

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +1

      unless it's acheron, there are many alternatives, and he works with break units since break damage also scales with vulnerability but you'd rather go lingsha for more break damage + sustain

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 5 месяцев назад +2

      To add onto what Meno said, if you do want him, he is pretty serviceable in other teams, just the value difference between an Acheron team and others is quite high. If you have Gallagher, and potentially like Jiaoqiu over Lingsha, you may be able to skip Lingsha since it’s still debatable if she’s better than Gallagher from a kit standpoint. If you vertically invest into him, he can become much much better. His E1 is especially good, increasing Dmg by 75% and then 90% with the Ult increase as well. If you get his LC, that increases it even more, so yeah.
      TLDR: not BiS for every dps, but serviceable at E0. Vertical investment makes him better. Do recommend going for BiS units before going for him though (that’s a meta standpoint though)

    • @annabs3929
      @annabs3929 4 месяца назад

      @@kwaakwoo Do you think that he will be a better option than Pela and Silver wolf?

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 4 месяца назад +2

      @@annabs3929 yes, most definitely. That is in teams with Acheron and DoT and possibly Ratio. Outside of that, Pela and Solverwolf may shine more, but it’s debatable. Basically, yes.

    • @alexandrkalakov7333
      @alexandrkalakov7333 4 месяца назад

      @@annabs3929 For you I made calculation of acheron damage
      Acheron E0S1 stats:
      3505 ATK
      44% crit rate
      184% crit damage
      46.88% light damage buff
      Pioneer 4 + Izumo 2
      Pela E5S6 (LC RESOLUTION):
      +42% def reduce by ultimate
      +10% effect rate by trace(useless)
      +16% def reduce by LC
      +12% ice res pen by eidolon(useless)
      Jiaqiu E1S0(LC EYES OF THE PRAY):
      +15% ult damage by ult
      +35% enemy taken damage by ashen roast
      +40% overall damage by eidolon
      Silver Wolf E0S1:
      +20% dmg res reduce by skill(that useless for test bcs I took 0 res)
      +10% res penetration by skill
      +45% def reduce by ult
      +8% def reduce by talent
      +3% res penetration by trace
      +12 enemy damage taken by LC
      Aventurine for all tests E0S1 + keel buff:
      +15% crit damage taken by ult
      +10% enemy damage taken by LC
      +10% crit damage by keel
      Enemy stats:
      80 lvl
      0 res
      60 toughness
      100000 hp
      40% effect res
      0% debuff res
      Lets calculate crit ult damage
      Pela+SW:
      Single 301939.62
      AoE 243499.70(that number will be lower bcs SW can debuff only one enemy)
      Pela+Jiaoqiu:
      Single 281540.97
      AoE 227049.17
      SW+Jiaoqiu:
      Single 328598.54
      AoE 264998.82(that number will be lower bcs SW can debuff only one enemy)
      That calculation is not too accurate but can give conclusions.
      In damage jiaoqiu better than pela but worse than SW. In practice he can do more AoE damage(not sure) and give faster acheron ult charge. Pela is 4 star character, she is weaker than jiaoqiu and SW, but she is free and doesnt require a lot of warps. What you want to get is on your hands. Maybe that help you with your choice.

  • @darkg3780
    @darkg3780 5 месяцев назад +5

    thank you so much, do you think he is worth it at E0

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +10

      If you have acheron he's worth it

    • @astray2084
      @astray2084 5 месяцев назад

      @@MenoHSRthat’s to say that if they don’t have acheron, then he’s not worth it. (which is true.)

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@astray2084 he is still pretty good for Ratio and certain dot teams, just not as valuable than in an Acheron team

    • @notnotnotyou
      @notnotnotyou 4 месяца назад

      @@kwaakwoodoesnt guinaifen perform similarly though
      Especially with black swan who can make arcana count as dot for gui to trigger

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 4 месяца назад +1

      @@notnotnotyou not really. I mean her dot may be better but Jiaoqiu is just better than Gui. Gui’s firekiss debuff only procs off of burn so it’s a bit difficult to use without Kafka or other burn units (it’s still serviceable just much harder to get full stacks compared to Jiaoqiu). Overall, Jiaoqiu is better but a bit comparable to Gui. Unless you want him though, you don’t really need him for DoT teams, but he’s basically irreplaceable for Acheron.

  • @rubyy____
    @rubyy____ 5 месяцев назад +1

    guys should i pull for him i have kafka black swan and acheron will he be any upgrade for them

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +2

      yes especially acheron

    • @AIA222-yu5ml
      @AIA222-yu5ml 5 месяцев назад +3

      As someone who will pull Jiaoqiu myself, pull him if you want your Acheron to do more dmg and ult faster. But if you're happy with the dmg your Acheron does currently, then there is no need.

    • @rubyy____
      @rubyy____ 5 месяцев назад

      @AIA222-yu5ml I am definitely going for him. At this point, I'll pull for him even if he does nothing I just want him to sit and look pretty

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 5 месяцев назад

      @@rubyy____ HE LOOKS PRETTY SITTING, STANDING, AND OILED AND TIED UP ON MY BED-

  • @Alyssarissaa
    @Alyssarissaa 4 месяца назад

    Jiaoqiu effect hit rate 163% 😍 is it because of the wind relic sets?

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  4 месяца назад

      nah, and you only need 140% which you can get by S5 EOTP, EHR body, 28% from trace, and 40% substats

  • @escanorsama1940
    @escanorsama1940 5 месяцев назад +2

    Ahmm why these relics on acheron and not her known signature relics (Pioneer)?

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад

      I forgot to change relic set but it shouldn't really matter much with that substats

  • @IniiChuu
    @IniiChuu 5 месяцев назад

    better pulling acheron eidolons for 0

  • @workingonit940
    @workingonit940 4 месяца назад

    I want a Nihility tank or healer because my Nihility women are so fragile

  • @Sauceyourgranny
    @Sauceyourgranny 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why is jiaoquu wearing the wind set isnt he fire ?!?!

    • @fabx3592
      @fabx3592 5 месяцев назад +8

      action advance after ult. just a support build not necessarily his best

    • @theteamxxx3142
      @theteamxxx3142 5 месяцев назад

      Hyperspeed build for acheron E0 supports is always good

  • @shammyyyy
    @shammyyyy 5 месяцев назад

    E1 or LC for him?

    • @shammyyyy
      @shammyyyy 5 месяцев назад

      I have Welt LC and S3 Pearls

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +3

      if you have EHR lc (tutorial, eyes of the prey) you could go for E1 welt LC doesnt count since it only increases skill EHR

    • @shammyyyy
      @shammyyyy 5 месяцев назад

      @@MenoHSR gotcha. Thanks

  • @grr3467
    @grr3467 5 месяцев назад +1

    Idk it doesnt feel right to me to get a bad character just for acheron, wouldnt it be better to invest in her eidelons or weapon?

    • @rammi3822
      @rammi3822 5 месяцев назад +13

      It all goes down to him being versatile. While u can invest in making acheron stronger specifically, jiaoqiu can be used in many teams especially dot. Plus with Feixiao being as ultimate dependent as Acheron, he can be used there too
      Not saying hes a must pull or anything, just that ppl keep downplaying his value when hes still somewhat as strong as before, just weaker in acheron's team specifically for PF

    • @theunknown1760
      @theunknown1760 5 месяцев назад

      he can now be Kafka dot team

    • @Senkest
      @Senkest 5 месяцев назад +2

      He makes acheron e2 lvl so he will be saving you pulls which you can use on other characters

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 5 месяцев назад

      Ngl, he’s not bad at all of a character for Acheron. He’s better than Pela and Gui. Don’t let the doomposters fool you. He is by far the BiS for Acheron, even with E2.
      Edit: And his Eidolons and weapon make him even better. At base he has a 50% increase to Acheron’s ult which is pretty crazy, on top of increased stack generation. He is just a more synergistic Tingyun for Acheron basically.

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  4 месяца назад

      I think JQ is generally good aside from Acheron. His advantage over any nihility debuffers is the 100% uptime which is the reason why most harmony is better than nihility in which case Jiaoqiu fixes that, and who knows in the future that a character might need debuff to function other than Acheron or enemies that can remove debuff (they can't remove Jiaoqiu's debuff since it's a field)

  • @Dora8197
    @Dora8197 5 месяцев назад

    is this after nerf right?

  • @KuroiShiAnimu
    @KuroiShiAnimu 5 месяцев назад

    Why is he E1?

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад

      almost the same damage as e0s1 also it's better in pure fiction

  • @ansemxemnas3494
    @ansemxemnas3494 5 месяцев назад

    Aven till better than 👋😟

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 5 месяцев назад

      I don’t know what this truly means, but Jiaoqiu is def better from a meta standpoint for Acheron. Acheron can work with any sustain, just those with debuffs are preferred.

    • @Saix1031
      @Saix1031 4 месяца назад

      @@kwaakwoo I think he means for this team, aven> galagher as far as sustain

    • @kwaakwoo
      @kwaakwoo 4 месяца назад

      @@Saix1031 that makes sense 😭😭
      I'm sorry op 😭😭

    • @Saix1031
      @Saix1031 4 месяца назад

      @@kwaakwoo 😂

  • @zxcentsensei.sunder
    @zxcentsensei.sunder 5 месяцев назад +2

    acheron fell off in apoc shadow... tho firefly can sweep it no problem

    • @xeviivry3798
      @xeviivry3798 5 месяцев назад +45

      Of course she would deal lower damage to someone with a 40% lighting res but you just like shitting on everything except ff

    • @iamwayne6138
      @iamwayne6138 5 месяцев назад +47

      ​@@xeviivry3798 Bro yu can't expect a Ff main to have critical thinking, that's just too unrealistic

    • @xeviivry3798
      @xeviivry3798 5 месяцев назад +14

      @@iamwayne6138 I guess that's true too

    • @astray2084
      @astray2084 5 месяцев назад

      idiotic firefly glazer.

    • @solarenity
      @solarenity 5 месяцев назад +4

      how did acheron fall off 💀?

  • @196IMBA
    @196IMBA 4 месяца назад

    1482 XD
    okay, you can pull this shit

  • @Zevyne
    @Zevyne 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wait the dot set becomes her bis with jiaqui? Say it ain’t so.

    • @MenoHSR
      @MenoHSR  5 месяцев назад +2

      No i just forgot to change relic set to pioneer

    • @Zevyne
      @Zevyne 5 месяцев назад

      @@MenoHSR thank lord