Notice that the Pacific has that tape-ish sound that makes the feel more "analogue", the right amount of "grit" and "dirty" sounding that makes it more natural. That said, regardless the samples, it's all comes back to the detailings of the mod wheels and touches, as well as the mix. So.. PSA: Don't cut corners, people! Make use of your automation!
Pacific + CSS is just amazing. Having both of them really takes your music to a whole new level. Pair that up with some Spitfire Albions like Tundra and Neo, and you are covered for cineamtic string writing for a long long long time.
This helped me tremendously to make a decision. If "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" it is also in the "ear' :) Pacific String carries so much emotion... it's incredible. My choice.
Great video! Also just a thought for Pacific to push the strings back a little and make it sound even more natural. Try setting the close mics for each Pacific instrument to -7db and then set the panning left or right based on if it's violins, violas, cellos, or basses. Magic! I was watching a master mixing video (of someone who mixes orchestra for a living) and he said that typical for him is to have close mics around -10db of the volume of the main mics (and -6db when you really want to emphasize the instrument). Since the main mics in this case already on avg are around 3 db louder than the close mics, moving the close mics down -7db gets you close to that sweet spot. Obviously tweak to taste. But just a thought :) cheers
Thank you for doing this and offering up the session file and midi. Much appreciated as a noob looking at building out my first toolkit. You just sold me on Pacific
It didn't take me up to ten seconds to be pulled in by the beauty of the Pacific ensemble strings. They have such a beautiful, soulful texture to them and for someone like me who loves it when instruments sing, I think I might have just found my go-to library❤ However, I think at the end of the day, it all depends onthe story the composer is trying to tell. For one scenario, you might want a library as expressive and somewhat "mournful" as Pacific ensemble strings or one that's slightly more "stoic" or "detached"
TSS really lives after processed (excited for the 2.0 update). I know people like to layer it with CSS or other libraries which sounds quite nice together. I do love Pacifica and the Spitfire Air sound is great for pieces like this. Great video Victor!
Thank you very much for taking the trouble to make this comparison, it requires work. I have all the libraries in the comparison except pacific strings. They all sound great but CSS and Pacific are the ones I like the most. The spitfire ones are fantastic but too wet for me. And the LASS2 I think are old and require a lot of programming.
@@VictorKongMusic Totally, especially in legato mode. Unlike Spitfire, when you done the midi with CSS, it can hardly switch to another library smoothly.
Hi, I'm "young" in strings production 😁 I would like to know why didn't you copy the same expression on each part ? Indeed I see that you have an unique expression automation for each part (VL 1, VL 2, viola...). Wouldn't be faster to copy the same expression automation on all the parts ?
Hey :) so automating each instrument/ section individually allows you to achieve more realism! With a real orchestra, the subtle differences between each player add breath and life to the music. The expression modulation being a little different for each track helps to push these sample libraries to sounding their most realistic.
Your comparisons are the best! Could you consider making a comparison between the new Spitfire Symphonic Strings and the old ones? The new performance legato is supposed to be much better, I think.
In my opinion, the best sound comes from chamber strings. It has just the right amount of reverb while not sounding entirely wet or dry. The quality is also very good and works well for layering.
I wouldn't say it's "outdated". It's got its own sound and it is useful in some situations, particularly when layering. Their Con Sordino and Flautendo are very unique and sound absolutely great and beautiful. I still use it and I wouldn't be able to find any Flautendo able to compete with SCS. I Personally find that Spitfire has a lot more definition than some other libraries but I recommend to purchase a library that's suitable for the music you're willing to make. Spitfire is definitely not the best for big Epics songs. Most music producers (including myself) would layer multiple strings libraries in a project. I use SCS, SSS, CSS, Ark1, Ark3, Jeagger, Solo, Fluid Shorts,... It all depends on the type of music, the emotion,... And generally, we all have at least one particular patch that we love in each library we own. However Pacific Strings seems to be amazing, not only because it sounds great and different, but it does react differently when playing (in a good way). Definitely my next purchase.
chamber strings has fantastic portamento, and legato sounds better with use „legato performance” but this recordings doesnt’t contain it’s possibility so it sounds poor without this option
@@itspedroteixeira I sometimes layer solo instruments with ensembles or sometimes I layer ensembles which is something some sound engineers wouldn't recommend (phasing). It all depends on what I want to achieve. For instance Audio Imperia Jaegger and Solo work absolutely great together. Regarding panning, I use some slightly different settings for better definition but still always keep violins to the left.
Great composition and comparison Victor!:) As you have all three Spitfire String Libraries - may I ask you how often you use Spitfire Studio Strings? I have Chamber and Symphonic myself and wonder if the Studio Strings are worth considering!? Maybe also for layering!;)
I admit that Pacific Strings will be good to use. And perhaps even for Spitfire Symphonic Strings for the advance. I'm sure that might be grateful to use tho.
I listened to all of these examples. And then i listened to some live strings in a similar vane. And Pacific is by far the closest to how a real section sounds live. Not hyped. Not over detailed. No bumps. It's clear that Jasper holds overall tone/sound really high on the list. You may not get the versatility of CSS and others, but what you do get is superior Tone. Pacific has that classic, authentic tone. Spitfire Symphonic i think has a pretty nice tone, but it comes with too many shortcomings in the legato and dynamic layer/crossfade. And it has a bit of that "Hyped Highs" that i just can't get with.
cinematic strings 2 have the best playability ever, you can use it for play live and sounds like an orchestra in your hands, i've never found another library so good in this aspect pacific have the best sound overall
@@MrMusicopathnot only does it have insane playability, but he's also going to update it to fix and refine even further the playability with a free update after he makes Pacific brass, Pacific solo strings, and Vista 2. Vista 2 is a similar size in instruments to css and Berlin strings, Vista I already has one of the best legatos on the market. And keep in mind, these were his first 2 big projects, it will only improve.
Hello. Please, say Me. You had a video on your channel with your impressions of the trip. The video features a jazz version of Debussy - Clair de Lune. Could you please suggest the artist of this version? I can not find. Thank you.🙏🏻
i did not care about the libraries anymore, i just listened to this beautiful piece 20 times in a row, good work
Notice that the Pacific has that tape-ish sound that makes the feel more "analogue", the right amount of "grit" and "dirty" sounding that makes it more natural.
That said, regardless the samples, it's all comes back to the detailings of the mod wheels and touches, as well as the mix. So.. PSA: Don't cut corners, people! Make use of your automation!
pacific really got this unique sound.. so beautiful
Yes I liked Pacific more than others
Nd I think about user also matters because I also heard la scoring strings demo songs that was amazing
@@joeljoseph2325 definitely. How you use the library makes all the difference in the world for sure.
@merluzo8269 unusable to you maybe. It's getting a lot of use for me and I'm getting really good results 😃
@merluzo8269 yes too here, it's horrible :(
Now all the string library together for the grand final!
Pacific sounds lush and gorgeous. Impressed.
Pacific + CSS is just amazing. Having both of them really takes your music to a whole new level. Pair that up with some Spitfire Albions like Tundra and Neo, and you are covered for cineamtic string writing for a long long long time.
This helped me tremendously to make a decision. If "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" it is also in the "ear' :) Pacific String carries so much emotion... it's incredible. My choice.
Great video! Also just a thought for Pacific to push the strings back a little and make it sound even more natural. Try setting the close mics for each Pacific instrument to -7db and then set the panning left or right based on if it's violins, violas, cellos, or basses. Magic! I was watching a master mixing video (of someone who mixes orchestra for a living) and he said that typical for him is to have close mics around -10db of the volume of the main mics (and -6db when you really want to emphasize the instrument). Since the main mics in this case already on avg are around 3 db louder than the close mics, moving the close mics down -7db gets you close to that sweet spot. Obviously tweak to taste. But just a thought :) cheers
Thank you for doing this and offering up the session file and midi. Much appreciated as a noob looking at building out my first toolkit. You just sold me on Pacific
It didn't take me up to ten seconds to be pulled in by the beauty of the Pacific ensemble strings. They have such a beautiful, soulful texture to them and for someone like me who loves it when instruments sing, I think I might have just found my go-to library❤
However, I think at the end of the day, it all depends onthe story the composer is trying to tell. For one scenario, you might want a library as expressive and somewhat "mournful" as Pacific ensemble strings or one that's slightly more "stoic" or "detached"
Spifire Symphonic is best among all.... But Pacific got a really great warm and analouge effect....
Wow, what a fantastic comparison and a beautiful cover! I've got Spitfire Studio Strings, but Pacific Strings sound the most warm and expressive👍
thanks for your work Victor
Pacific really stands out to me ❤ CSS is second. Thx for the video!
TSS really lives after processed (excited for the 2.0 update). I know people like to layer it with CSS or other libraries which sounds quite nice together. I do love Pacifica and the Spitfire Air sound is great for pieces like this. Great video Victor!
Fantastic Beats! Hehe, Nice arrangement & comparison
I liked the L.A scoring strings with reverb!
Thank you for this! I’ve studied your Rue’s Farewell comparison a lot, and I will do the same with this one.
Thank you very much for taking the trouble to make this comparison, it requires work. I have all the libraries in the comparison except pacific strings. They all sound great but CSS and Pacific are the ones I like the most. The spitfire ones are fantastic but too wet for me. And the LASS2 I think are old and require a lot of programming.
I like the sound of CSS too, but the delay is really hard to work with.
@@VictorKongMusic Totally, especially in legato mode. Unlike Spitfire, when you done the midi with CSS, it can hardly switch to another library smoothly.
You are very talented. please create a tutorial showing how you played each instrument. I use Pacific ensemble strings
Perfect comparsion! Loaded the files! Thanks a lot!
Pacific all the DAMN way 🤤
Come on, they all sounded fantastic!1
Hi, I'm "young" in strings production 😁 I would like to know why didn't you copy the same expression on each part ? Indeed I see that you have an unique expression automation for each part (VL 1, VL 2, viola...). Wouldn't be faster to copy the same expression automation on all the parts ?
Hey :) so automating each instrument/ section individually allows you to achieve more realism!
With a real orchestra, the subtle differences between each player add breath and life to the music.
The expression modulation being a little different for each track helps to push these sample libraries to sounding their most realistic.
@@curlykeys8261 thank you very much for your help 🙌😉
my favorites are CSS !
Been using Pacific for 6 months now.
Spitfire Studio Strings crush them all
Pacific best!
If you could choose only one of these libraries to write your next 2 years worth of scoring projects, which would you choose????
Probably Pacific and all the Spitfire. I really like the sound of CSS but the delay really is so painful to work with.
Your comparisons are the best! Could you consider making a comparison between the new Spitfire Symphonic Strings and the old ones? The new performance legato is supposed to be much better, I think.
In my opinion, the best sound comes from chamber strings. It has just the right amount of reverb while not sounding entirely wet or dry. The quality is also very good and works well for layering.
pacific is the best for me
Awesome demo thank you so much!
Spitfire stuff sounds really outdated. Can't believe they are still charging 800.00 for the Chamber strings.
What do you think sounds better than Spitfire?
I wouldn't say it's "outdated". It's got its own sound and it is useful in some situations, particularly when layering. Their Con Sordino and Flautendo are very unique and sound absolutely great and beautiful. I still use it and I wouldn't be able to find any Flautendo able to compete with SCS. I Personally find that Spitfire has a lot more definition than some other libraries but I recommend to purchase a library that's suitable for the music you're willing to make. Spitfire is definitely not the best for big Epics songs.
Most music producers (including myself) would layer multiple strings libraries in a project. I use SCS, SSS, CSS, Ark1, Ark3, Jeagger, Solo, Fluid Shorts,... It all depends on the type of music, the emotion,... And generally, we all have at least one particular patch that we love in each library we own.
However Pacific Strings seems to be amazing, not only because it sounds great and different, but it does react differently when playing (in a good way). Definitely my next purchase.
chamber strings has fantastic portamento, and legato sounds better with use „legato performance” but this recordings doesnt’t contain it’s possibility so it sounds poor without this option
@@chilloutambient1249how do you go about layering your strings? And how do you pan them?
@@itspedroteixeira I sometimes layer solo instruments with ensembles or sometimes I layer ensembles which is something some sound engineers wouldn't recommend (phasing). It all depends on what I want to achieve. For instance Audio Imperia Jaegger and Solo work absolutely great together.
Regarding panning, I use some slightly different settings for better definition but still always keep violins to the left.
Amazing work! Thanks!!
Great composition and comparison Victor!:) As you have all three Spitfire String Libraries - may I ask you how often you use Spitfire Studio Strings? I have Chamber and Symphonic myself and wonder if the Studio Strings are worth considering!? Maybe also for layering!;)
Spitfire LCO strings to layer with is the ticket
@@WinItReigns LCO?? what is the shortcut means?
@@bartmuz Spitfire. London Contemporary Orchestra Strings.
LCO Strings
what happened to the audio quality ? Was fine for pacific but then the audio quality i really not good !!
Great comparison! 👌🏻
Wow, thanks for making this video! For me it’s: 1. Franken-Strings 2. Pacific 3. LASS
I admit that Pacific Strings will be good to use.
And perhaps even for Spitfire Symphonic Strings for the advance.
I'm sure that might be grateful to use tho.
Spitfire Chamber Strings...wow
PTCS is my favorite
anyone able to open the logic session file? it doesn't seem to work for me, it's not recognized as a logicx file.
For me the best is SO symphonic strings
My cpu always spikes when using pacific,
Pacific pretty much demolishes everything else. Performance samples really have something special going on.
CSS is very close, it just requires a lot of manual programming and sound processing
Any reference to the excellent sample modeling library? How is it possible if you are supposed to be objective?
I listened to all of these examples. And then i listened to some live strings in a similar vane. And Pacific is by far the closest to how a real section sounds live. Not hyped. Not over detailed. No bumps. It's clear that Jasper holds overall tone/sound really high on the list. You may not get the versatility of CSS and others, but what you do get is superior Tone. Pacific has that classic, authentic tone. Spitfire Symphonic i think has a pretty nice tone, but it comes with too many shortcomings in the legato and dynamic layer/crossfade. And it has a bit of that "Hyped Highs" that i just can't get with.
Where is Eastwest Opus?
I would like to know how pacific handles repeating notes. I use css there are recorded re bowing.
They do "Sustains with Same-Note Repetitions".
cinematic strings 2 have the best playability ever, you can use it for play live and sounds like an orchestra in your hands, i've never found another library so good in this aspect
pacific have the best sound overall
Pacific is better and when vista II comes out both Berlin strings and cinematic studio strings will be obsolete.
@@JohnnyADi pacific have better playability??
@@MrMusicopathnot only does it have insane playability, but he's also going to update it to fix and refine even further the playability with a free update after he makes Pacific brass, Pacific solo strings, and Vista 2. Vista 2 is a similar size in instruments to css and Berlin strings, Vista I already has one of the best legatos on the market.
And keep in mind, these were his first 2 big projects, it will only improve.
@@JohnnyADi Agreed!
Hello. Please, say Me. You had a video on your channel with your impressions of the trip. The video features a jazz version of Debussy - Clair de Lune. Could you please suggest the artist of this version? I can not find. Thank you.🙏🏻
Yes. Is from a good friend of mine. You can check out the album here. open.spotify.com/album/5oSxMxGMwq70kZrn7nNRVg?si=Xk0iGZhISgqLCz5-UnJ6nw
@@VictorKongMusic Oh, thank you very much
Great demo! the Logic session isn't opening for me, what version is it from?
Hi vic, nice work 👍🫰
CS2.......Win
used EQ &reverbs？🥹
Fabfilter for EQ. Altiverb & Lexicon for Reverbs!
@@VictorKongMusic thanks!!!!
@@VictorKongMusic Can you tell me specifically what settings you used for each? I also have Altiverb, Lexicon and Fabfilter.
@@pamelaphillips9309yeah I'd also love to know!