I get it. As a manager, I can’t treat everyone as an obedient saint. I carry a stick and walk in grace and wisdom with a heart of kindness where I can. 🦋
This message is revolutionary and I believe I came across it at the right time. As a preacher of the word, i appreciate this insight. Its really revolutionary ans the distinction between the church and the gorvement is so powerful. Thank you sir
I have tried to explain what you are saying in a different way in that we cannot force people to look like us. If we are the light of the world then demanding that others act the way we do would just produce a bunch of fake lights at best. The way you are saying this makes it a lot easier to apply, especially since you are using specifically relevant scripture! I agree with what you are saying. I know God created free will out of love.
Thank you for another aspect of this truth. I feel like Kris has a better intellectual view on politics than so many who get stumbled by the political spirit. For years I’ve been appreciative of how clearly Kris sees humans over political parties, and the roles of government over faith based organizations.
The Lord has never protected our right to sin. He has only shown mercy and Grace by not destroying us when we sin. Let us not confuse mercy and Grace with “protecting our right to sin.” At no time has the Lord given us a “right” to violate His commandments. The Lord hates sin and does not give us permission to sin.
agreement with all you just said Kris, . Though I never knew anyone thought a Governor or mayor or any person and Leadership was a pastor I've never heard that concept that's kind of crazy
However, when leaders governing countries are Christians and share their Christian beliefs with the people, it is a blessing. They do have to understand that there should no favoritism, they should treat all people the same, such as the government of El Salvador and I am talking about president Nayib Buckele. He is doing a wonderful job as a political leader, his ideal form of government has brought peace to the whole country which prior was riddled with horrible crime.
Olá, meu nome é Elizabeth e estou há uns dias orando por vc, Kris Vallotton... Não sei se esta mensagem chegará aos seus ouvidos mas, o que sinto em meu coração é: "Você ainda tem a força de quando começou, tal como Calebe disse quando estava pronto a conquistar sua parte na terra prometida. Você ainda tem a vitalidade e o ímpeto de um rapaz, mas com a maturidade e sabedoria de alguém mais experiente... O Senhor te levará a muitos lugares inimagináveis e curtíssimos espaços de tempo, e vc pode ir, pois há vigor e novo vigor em vc."
I'm not sure I quite understand the underlying purpose of this message. Is it to get Christians to accept that a Christian in government cannot be expected to make decisions in line with their values because a bias like that is unfair? Perhaps it was your examples of unfair bias that seemed more extreme than relevant but, since many decisions made by governments are made outside the parameters of mere "justice and equality", I find your "clarification" more confusing than illuminating.
OT simple believer doctrine. David repayed evil with evil and good with good. This is modern man's government. This is hypocrisy. Evil is unjustice, period Good is justice, period The NT saints, unlike David repay evil with good and good with good. No hypocrisy. God as a pacifist judge said thou shalt not kill, period. If God said thou shalt not kill and kill, A kill is just = B not kill is just Logically A=B law of contradiction is impossible contradiction. Nobody understands God as a pacifist judge must bring death to fruition but is never PERSONALLY guilty of repaying evil with evil. The criminal does evil and is responsible for punishment which is evil NOT THE JUDGE. LOGIC SCIENCE 101 LAW OF CONTRADICTION A=B IMPOSSIBLE CONTRADICTION My logical argument A=B A God is a non-pacifist that kills moral just and legal B God is a pacifist that doesn't kill moral just and legal God can't be both to avoid A=B impossible contradiction A isn't=to B objective absolutely true logic EITHER A God is a non-pacifist that kills moral just and legal OR B God is a pacifist that doesn't kill moral just and legal Not both because God would be A=B impossible contradiction. Closing argument logically Your honor if A God is a non-pacifist that kills is moral just and legal. Then to avoid A=B impossible contradiction, B God is a pacifist that doesn't kill would be IMMORAL UNJUST AND ILLEGAL, like A liars are legal then B non liars must be illegal, to avoid corrupt man's law. The ramification is God is a non-pacifist that kills or a pacifist that doesn't kill Not both, he would be A=B impossible contradiction. God is King of peace a pacifist no hypocrisy. Does God hate evil A and B love good? No, that would be A=B impossible contradiction. God only loves good, God is love not love and hate. 99% of all Christians are NON-PACIFISTS, and will parish from lack of simple A=B and A isn't=to B knowledge. PhD Logic science instructors don't know how to use the two most important equations for truth. A nothing caused evolved = B the contradiction effect of something This is A=B impossible contradiction Intelligent Design Argument A non intelligence caused evolved = B the contradiction effect of intelligence This is A=B impossible contradiction A isn't=to B objective absolutely true logic In labs A non intelligence = A non intelligence B intelligence causes = B the effect intelligence. Cool eh dude. EVOLUTION depends on A=B impossible contradiction to happen A no brain organisms caused = B the effect of brainiac organisms This is an A=B impossible contradiction scientific hypothesis. Any scientists that argue A=B impossible contradiction is possible should be banned from science and given a lobotomy. Peace out bro be a pacifist?😎😍👍❤
I believe his point is that you cannot legislate Christianity. You can attempt to make laws in line with Christian principles in order to attempt to force people to behave like Christians but behavior does not make one a Christian. Following a law does not change the heart and cannot bring salvation. When you attempt to make the government the arbiter of Christianity you step outside of God's order and actually remove the body of Christ from it's Christ mandated role. You confuse the kingdom of God with secular power. Our citizenship is in heaven. Paul, a natural citizen of Rome tells us this. We are citizens in a kingdom which exists in all of the nations on earth. And as the weapons of our warfare are not carnal neither is our dominion. If we deliberately offend others BY our faith how can we do the Jesus mandated job of the believer to convert them to our faith? We can pull down physical walls of a city but the strongholds are spiritual and that is where we fight. There is an important lesson for today's church in Jeremiah 21. Pray and meditate on the reason God allowed His people to be defeated and subjected to Babylon and Nebuchadnezzar. He told them he would turn the weapons IN THEIR HANDS against THEM, His own people. They didn't recognize their proper dominion and expected God to honor THEIR will and THEIR political objectives. And they lost it all. Their land, temple and king . Because just as the Israelites coming out of Egypt relied on themselves rather than the word and will of God and were punished with defeat so the Kingdom of Israel, having a FORM of Godliness failed
Thank you for bringing such a high level of clarity to this often misunderstood biblical area that affects us all!
I get it. As a manager, I can’t treat everyone as an obedient saint. I carry a stick and walk in grace and wisdom with a heart of kindness where I can. 🦋
So so good!!!
Wow, this is so helpful. Thank you!
Thank you Kris for being willing to tackle this subject
Thanks Kris for bringing clarity on this area . Well said
This message is revolutionary and I believe I came across it at the right time. As a preacher of the word, i appreciate this insight. Its really revolutionary ans the distinction between the church and the gorvement is so powerful. Thank you sir
I have tried to explain what you are saying in a different way in that we cannot force people to look like us. If we are the light of the world then demanding that others act the way we do would just produce a bunch of fake lights at best.
The way you are saying this makes it a lot easier to apply, especially since you are using specifically relevant scripture!
I agree with what you are saying. I know God created free will out of love.
Wow ! Such a Good word for Today.🤍🌿
This is a great message, thank you!
God pless everyone praise God
Thank you for another aspect of this truth. I feel like Kris has a better intellectual view on politics than so many who get stumbled by the political spirit. For years I’ve been appreciative of how clearly Kris sees humans over political parties, and the roles of government over faith based organizations.
The Lord has never protected our right to sin. He has only shown mercy and Grace by not destroying us when we sin. Let us not confuse mercy and Grace with “protecting our right to sin.” At no time has the Lord given us a “right” to violate His commandments. The Lord hates sin and does not give us permission to sin.
Hmmmm... Powerful thank you sir
I understand now
I always enjoyed listening to you. You always bring a great word.
Thank you Kris, your teaching certifies and strengthens my work conduct. It clarifies my position as a server and citizen. Be it Monday or Sunday.
One time where most of what this Bethel leader makes sense
So good
agreement with all you just said Kris, . Though I never knew anyone thought a Governor or mayor or any person and Leadership was a pastor I've never heard that concept that's kind of crazy
Good Word, as usual‼️Not offensive.🕊✝️
Thank you for watching!
However, when leaders governing countries are Christians and share their Christian beliefs with the people, it is a blessing. They do have to understand that there should no favoritism, they should treat all people the same, such as the government of El Salvador and I am talking about president Nayib Buckele. He is doing a wonderful job as a political leader, his ideal form of government has brought peace to the whole country which prior was riddled with horrible crime.
Olá, meu nome é Elizabeth e estou há uns dias orando por vc, Kris Vallotton... Não sei se esta mensagem chegará aos seus ouvidos mas, o que sinto em meu coração é: "Você ainda tem a força de quando começou, tal como Calebe disse quando estava pronto a conquistar sua parte na terra prometida. Você ainda tem a vitalidade e o ímpeto de um rapaz, mas com a maturidade e sabedoria de alguém mais experiente... O Senhor te levará a muitos lugares inimagináveis e curtíssimos espaços de tempo, e vc pode ir, pois há vigor e novo vigor em vc."
Do both
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How well would this preach in China, N. Korea or Russia?
Probably the same way it would preach under Nero in the 1st century.
God hates sin and does not want us to sin, but He allows choice or else you are a robot. I’m not saying He never intervenes.
Can you identify if there are Buddhist or Satanist teaching in any School System.
I felt the point he is making is, that it is possible !
I'm not sure I quite understand the underlying purpose of this message. Is it to get Christians to accept that a Christian in government cannot be expected to make decisions in line with their values because a bias like that is unfair? Perhaps it was your examples of unfair bias that seemed more extreme than relevant but, since many decisions made by governments are made outside the parameters of mere "justice and equality", I find your "clarification" more confusing than illuminating.
OT simple believer doctrine.
David repayed evil with evil and good with good.
This is modern man's government. This is hypocrisy.
Evil is unjustice, period
Good is justice, period
The NT saints, unlike David repay evil with good and good with good. No hypocrisy. God as a pacifist judge said thou shalt not kill, period. If God said thou shalt not kill and kill,
A kill is just = B not kill is just
Logically A=B law of contradiction is impossible contradiction.
Nobody understands God as a pacifist judge must bring death to fruition but is never PERSONALLY guilty of repaying evil with evil. The criminal does evil and is responsible for punishment which is evil NOT THE JUDGE.
LOGIC SCIENCE 101
LAW OF CONTRADICTION A=B IMPOSSIBLE CONTRADICTION
My logical argument A=B
A God is a non-pacifist that kills moral just and legal
B God is a pacifist that doesn't kill moral just and legal
God can't be both to avoid A=B impossible contradiction
A isn't=to B objective absolutely true logic
EITHER A God is a non-pacifist that kills moral just and legal
OR B God is a pacifist that doesn't kill moral just and legal
Not both because God would be A=B impossible contradiction.
Closing argument logically
Your honor if A God is a non-pacifist that kills is moral just and legal. Then to avoid A=B impossible contradiction,
B God is a pacifist that doesn't kill would be IMMORAL UNJUST AND ILLEGAL, like A liars are legal then B non liars must be illegal, to avoid corrupt man's law.
The ramification is God is a non-pacifist that kills or a pacifist that doesn't kill
Not both, he would be A=B impossible contradiction.
God is King of peace a pacifist no hypocrisy. Does God hate evil A and B love good? No, that would be A=B impossible contradiction. God only loves good, God is love not love and hate. 99% of all Christians are NON-PACIFISTS, and will parish from lack of simple A=B and A isn't=to B knowledge.
PhD Logic science instructors don't know how to use the two most important equations for truth.
A nothing caused evolved = B the contradiction effect of something
This is A=B impossible contradiction
Intelligent Design Argument
A non intelligence caused evolved = B the contradiction effect of intelligence
This is A=B impossible contradiction
A isn't=to B objective absolutely true logic
In labs A non intelligence = A non intelligence
B intelligence causes = B the effect intelligence.
Cool eh dude. EVOLUTION depends on A=B impossible contradiction to happen
A no brain organisms caused = B the effect of brainiac organisms
This is an A=B impossible contradiction scientific hypothesis. Any scientists that argue A=B impossible contradiction is possible should be banned from science and given a lobotomy. Peace out bro be a pacifist?😎😍👍❤
I believe his point is that you cannot legislate Christianity. You can attempt to make laws in line with Christian principles in order to attempt to force people to behave like Christians but behavior does not make one a Christian. Following a law does not change the heart and cannot bring salvation. When you attempt to make the government the arbiter of Christianity you step outside of God's order and actually remove the body of Christ from it's Christ mandated role. You confuse the kingdom of God with secular power. Our citizenship is in heaven. Paul, a natural citizen of Rome tells us this. We are citizens in a kingdom which exists in all of the nations on earth. And as the weapons of our warfare are not carnal neither is our dominion. If we deliberately offend others BY our faith how can we do the Jesus mandated job of the believer to convert them to our faith? We can pull down physical walls of a city but the strongholds are spiritual and that is where we fight. There is an important lesson for today's church in Jeremiah 21. Pray and meditate on the reason God allowed His people to be defeated and subjected to Babylon and Nebuchadnezzar. He told them he would turn the weapons IN THEIR HANDS against THEM, His own people. They didn't recognize their proper dominion and expected God to honor THEIR will and THEIR political objectives.
And they lost it all. Their land, temple and king . Because just as the Israelites coming out of Egypt relied on themselves rather than the word and will of God and were punished with defeat so the Kingdom of Israel, having a FORM of Godliness failed
KINGDOM SALESMAN. hahahahahahahah