3 Year Study Reveals Bass Are Leaving Shallow Water…
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The fishing pressure is 5x what it was 20 years ago. When I was a teenager we could go down a 3/4 mile stretch of pencil weeds and pull 30-40 bass. That same stretch today you sweat to pull 5-6. Has nothing to do with ffs or any other technology. It’s that 30 boats run that shoreline 200 days a year
Agree. Even if ffs is totally done away with, the increasing tournsment and recreational pressure and the amount of info and gear at their disposal is reeking hovac on fish populations everywhere. For freshwater, I give bass another century, wild trout 40 years.
Pressure for sure, I’m not a ffs hater, but it definitely added to the amount of pressure these fish get. Tons more anglers on water catching them in all stages
Right. Hell on my lake no one fished the cold months. Now most of the main boat ramps have a bunch of people at the ramps now. So not only is there more people fishing the fish gets nonstop pressure
FFS will just speed up the end of our fisheries
damn right
Another thing that could help considering the number of fatalities that occur after fish have been kept in a livewell, is to change the way tournaments are run. Instead of having to bring the fish to a weigh-in, capture a photo instead and release the fish immediately. That is how it is done for many kayak tournaments and it works well. That is by no means a perfect solution, but IMO it is an improvement. Also, it is cheap to implement, but requires effort to promote it and get tournament organizers to agree.
There is a major bass tournament series that does immediate weigh recording and release as well. That's the way it should be
@@randalluthe4792 MLF series runs that way… and I think that how all tournaments should run from now on
This is the first video I’ve seen where someone is talking about what I noticed. I have pictures of me in the 90s with 6 pound bass I’d catch just wading on shore at KY lake. Now I have a 21 foot ranger and 35 years of experience and don’t catch them shallow like I used to
I’m being honest when I say this but, why even comment bc you know why you don’t catch them at KY lake like you use to and it’s those carps and several years of bad spawns. Was going downhill before FFS and there is a lot of fishing pressure but, not saying the actual reason and getting people who don’t know KY and Barkley lakes might not know, come on man.
This is true to an extent. If you go ultra shallow (8” - 12”) and SUPER heavy cover, they’re going there as well. I had one of my best years last year getting my tin boat into places no sane man would take his $85k skeeter.
Get rid of tournaments and cheatbox. Hold the state conservation office accountable.
Some how we need to take that idea, "Hold the state conservation office accountable." and organize in large enough numbers to make our voices heard.
That livescope being used in fishing tournaments is one of the dumbest things ever that you're exactly right it's a cheater box and that's why I stopped watching fishing tournaments because it was no longer a competition
Pull the fish out of shallow water, off there nest,take them for a ride in a boat a few miles, then let them go. What do you think happens? There fry are instant food.
We agree with you completely and I’m going to add this to what your saying , now with bass leaving the shallows and all these guys with FFS those bass that were out deep that were left alone are getting annihilated, and those bass die when released , if something does not get done with the DWLF soon you won’t have any in all of our lakes , no more shallow and no more deep this is what’s coming
Speak for yourself! I think it's BS!
@@DavidBalll-md8np. He just did speak for himself!
@jedmeadows6226 no he said WE agree with you. 🤡🤡
@ I am speaking for myself and my family !
@ We does not mean you !
Hey Randy, I'm new to your channel, and I totally agree with your thearies. I have been bass fishing for 50 yrs. More boat traffic, homes with lawn chemical runoffs to include the residents doing their own aquatic grass killing and biologists killing aquatic grass and saying it does affect fish. I don't have a cheat box. To me, the challenge of figuring out bass is high for me. Most anglers can't do it, and I can. Am I going to consistently weigh in 20- 30lbs? Nope, but when I do, it will be special. Keep up the great work. I remember you from my Potomac river days when you and Vandam fish the laydowns on the Virginia side. God bless!
Tournaments should have to stock bass fingerlings as part of their permits to hold such events .
That's pretty interesting...cut some of their profits for the reestablishment of fisheries where they have their tournaments...might reduce the number of tournaments and improve the overall bass population.
In SW FL all of these man made retention ponds are breeding grounds for invasive fish like cichlids and tilpia, and oftentimes they are not isolated bodies of water. Management companies come in a spray herbicide that wipes out a lot of plant life. The resulting bare shorelines become the favorite spawning bed locations for the invasive species. I’m no expert but it seems to be a self inflicted problem in a some ways. I have to work pretty hard to find bass while shore fishing
I haven't noticed a difference in the shallow fish quality or quantity. I do think we need to educate people in fish care when catching deep fish. I was shocked at the fish that needed to be fizzed at the tournament I fished. It's an issue that needs to be addressed.
Way to many tournaments every year , everywhere across the country , and to many during the spawn
Yeah I’m in PA and I notice shallow weeds and grass are showing up very late in summer and dying back just a few weeks later on some lakes and I really think it’s linked to fertilizer and herbicide runoff IMO
The late Bill Murphy, trophy bass hunter in southern California made the observation that these fish are using secondary structures that are far less obvious to anglers. He showed some photos which demonstrated the difference. Doug Hannon from Florida made the observation that the giant bass that were so common have declined close to 90%. He said this in the late 80s or early 90s.
I totally agree .i go fishing and cant hardly catch any fish shallow and tournaments need to be regulated somehow and ban ffs
Lol so that everyone fishes shallow and nobody catches any fish?
@@cloutmaster965 Oh I get it......clout was so busy thinking about how smart his comment would be the forgot to read the comment and missed the entire point. clout has dismissed his duties for the day and can now go back to sleep.
I'm not surprised they're gone. Today's Bank beater getting into fishing is 30 times better because of RUclips fishing. Then they were 10 years ago. My coworkers cousin got into fishing during covid he bought a ugly stick GX a pack of sencos and watch some RUclips videos. He caught a 12 pounder out of the San Diego lakes.
This is why I say tournament fishing and pressure is killing fishing. Before covid I caught a five pounder daily. I can't be that now. I live in east Texas and the lakes are suffering from high pressure.
What part of East Texas
I've noticed this trend while shore fishing the Mississippi River. I've fished this particular spot in MN for over 10 yrs and the increased fishing pressure and recreational boat pressure seems to be a factor. I used to catch 2 to 3 lb smallmouth or even 4 lb and up down there far more frequently than I do now. The numbers of smallmouth seem to be there but the size has stunted or the big ones are staying out deep by the dams or in the main channel. You can go down there and catch a whole bunch of 12 inch and under fish but it's getting harder and harder to get the big ones to bite any go to lures whether its jerkbaits, cranks, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, or Neko rigged soft plastics. This stretch of the river is catch and release only for walleye, bass, and pike. The walleye numbers and size seem to be ok despite insane amounts of fishing pressure but the pike and smallmouth are definitely harder to catch. All this could be just cyclical or coincidence but it makes you think about the effects of fishing pressure, how fish are caught, and at what depth they are caught.
Can confirm. Went fishing and covered a ton of bank fishing territory, not one bite. Went out to deeper water and sure enough, find the bass still sitting at 30-40ft. Water temp is 58. Found that really odd.
I agree with some of your comments. Too many tournaments, increased angling pressure and pleasure boating, plus loss of habitat. I've lived on Murray for more than 70 years. There's a tournament of some sort going on constantly and, unless it's a kayak tournament, fish are hauled all over everywhere just so a few spectators can see the largest in each boat's catch hoisted over an angler's head, then released at the weigh-in site, usually far from the habitat it was caught in. Why not adopt kayak tournament photo and release? Fishing pressure is unbelievable. Spring through fall I can sit on my porch over a weekend and see bass boat after bass boat come through my cove, one after the other. Habitat or structure now comes down to docks as house after house cuts and clears (many times even stumps are taken out during winter drawdowns), so they can have manicured lawns down to the water. You won't find a brushpile anywhere near any of these newer homes. I don't have FF sonar, but don't see it as the great evil you see it as. Frankly, fishing pressure and habitat loss would be my guess as the greatest limiting factors in any decline in quality fish. Also, I'm not nearly so quick to dismiss studies done by certified fisheries biologists as you are in favor of opinions from anglers such as you or I. These guys and gals can't control fishing pressure or fish handling or shoreline habitat maintenance, so they have to try to strike a balance between what is wanted by a wide range of anglers with different wishes, lake residents and users, state and local elected officials, and the general health of the fishery itself. God bless them for putting up with that every day.
The bank stretch I fish from shore the bigger bass don’t move close until the evening unless the water is murky or the wind is blowing. Last outing right before a front the wind was to my back and the bigger fish came in close chasing my jerk bait out of the water. Hooked a fat healthy fish pushing close to 5. Largest I’ve caught in years on this stretch. The fish adjust to fishing pressure. We just have to know what they want!
I’ve been duck hunting for 20 years and we’re seeing the same thing. Hunting pressure has driven birds out of public hunting areas. Not only are there more hunters out there, more hunters hunt more days per season. Add in the loud AF mud motors that have become popular the ducks that are roosted on conservation areas get up and leave before shooting time when the mud boats fire up. And MDC and other conservation/ wildlife departments are doing NOTHING to limit and combat pressure on wildlife vs what they’ve done for 40+ years. Along with personally I’ve seen a lot of piss poor hunters educating and wounding birds as well as just failing to recover their birds and continue to shoot birds toward their limit. Combine that with the habitat loss, avian flu, and poor conditions in the prairie pot hole breeding grounds and we see it in the population numbers too. These social media duck hunters are going to be in for a rude awakening when limits get reduced and seasons are shortened.
In life nothing stays the same.that includes in fishing
Pretty cavalier attitude doug. Wouldn't you like to see our fisheries stabilized as much as possible?
The difference between now and 2018 is like flipping a switch.
Bass are evolving so quickly some day soon they start their own schools systems
I used to be able to crank a shad rap in the winter with bigger hooks and slay the bass all winter. No more these days.
Randy get these guides and all of the people you are talking about around the country to climb on board . Do some group shows with these people it speaks volumes. Keep it up.
Thanks Brad for saying what many of us are thinking. We need a champion, our hero who will speak for us and start the process of organizing conservationists and fishery management into taking bass fishing away from greedy corporations and tournament organizers who only care about money.
Seriously the transducers we have today make a helluva amount of racket. I have my stern transducer mounted high up on my jack plate and I can hear it all the way up standing on the bow. Plus Steve Rogers did a underwater vid on transducer noise. It's hideous sounding. If I were a Bass. I would flee the scene ! So when I'm shallow. I put my units on standby, but that doesn't mean 20 Anglers before me have.
Randy you are spot on. Yesterday I fished and saw a guy that had 3 15” screens stacked one on top of the other on the front. 😂 I also listened to Jacob W. make the comment, talking about the new format, that he would have to wonder around and hope he can catch something. Professional fishermen now can’t compete without the live scope 😂
The bass fishing in oregon is amazing, its only gotten better over the years
I forgot what channel I saw it on. I think it was bassfishinghq, but anyway, there was a study done on bass that was a big lake in Texas I forget the name, that they found thr larger sized bass moved offshore into isolated cover. This is what one of the big fish did that I believe was 12 lbs. They also reported that you could not get within a large distance (don't remember specifics, but it was like 60 feet) with any kind of motor. The only way they could get the fish was with the wind.
Good comment but still doesn't explain the dwindling numbers and overall quality.
I saw that same study.
The small inexperienced bass will still hold shallow. But the bigger fish are so finicky, uninterested, easily spooked, and not committed to chasing a lure. The only time I’m able to catch a big bass is during stormy conditions. Fishing pressure is having a major effect on bass. Too many tournaments. Then you add live scope to the mix and it amplifies the effects.
I agree, the big fish got big for a reason. They are the smart ones!
I'm catching three fives four fives . In the shallows with the belly boat KVD wake .
The shallow bass heard that the deep water bass were getting the spotlight, so they have moved deeper for the attention.
I think we're using the term "study" very loosely here. I'm with you that FFS is bad, in general, for the fish and the fisherman, in the long run. Also, fishing pressure being a lot more than it used to be has made bass harder to catch. That is my observation, though, not a study
Thank you.
Yup. Bank fishing here in WA used to be phenomenal 10-15 years ago when I was a kid. We had spots that produced year after year. The numbers were absurd back then too. A lot easier to catch them and they were willing to eat. In WA, we deal with a lot of poachers. It’s a mess. We also deal with intense fishing/boating pressure. They have pushed back and gone deeper.
Randy. I can say that I agree with you on this one
Get rid of the cheater box and regulate tournaments
I'm a 55-year-old up in Central MN. One of the best and oldest fishermen in my club laments how good docks used to be compared to now. He thinks the difference is fishing pressure the docks get now. Once upon a time, it was only he and a couple of other guys who knew the pattern. Now, every bass fisherman does, so one may even be fishing behind somebody on a weekday on a known dock lake. Docks still produce well from time to time. My boater caught most of a lake record bag for the club off of docks last summer. Shallow cover in a natural lake is always going to hold some quality fish.
Social media also plat's a big part of this scenario as well
I believe this.Here on Old Hickory and Percy Priest ya used to go catch 15-20lbs on any given day!Now ya do well to even catch them shallow!Now Theres the exception yeah some days ya might catch 10 keepers and I mean barely keepers.On average Old Hickory has 6 tournaments in a weeks time in the summertime!It’s beat to death.Fishing sucks now!Im still gonna go though.Ive got FFS but it seems when ya turn it on during the summer a you’re ledge fishing.The fish will swim off the ledge.Theyre gone an ya have a hard time catching them.I wish they would limit it…
I can't speak to the study but in my area on the Ohio River, Drum, Carp, Buffalo, occasionally other species, could very often be seen cruising the banks. Several years ago a couple of pairs of Bald Eagles moved into the area and about the same time the Cormorant population grew. Now it is rare to see any fish bigger than forage near the banks.
It's a lot of water, I don't reckon they were all eaten. I suspect they have learned that the shallow water is not a safe place to be.
Similar with what happened to a local smaller tributary river. It was a little known but great fishery, then the DNR stocked Muskie and the fishing crashed shortly after. It is now recovering and I suspect that is on account of the other fish now having become used to dealing with a population of large predators.
Well what do you expect with the increase in fishing tournaments and now we have to deal with kayak tournaments as well. Every lake should have a set limit to the number of tournaments allowed in a given time frame. Also, the damn bed/sight fishing needs to stop as well. Let the bass do what they do in peace without any stress whatsoever. Just look at Canada as an example. You put the health of the fish first not the wealth of the tournament anglers. And lastly - catch, weigh, and release.
If I had to pick one thing to address all these problems it would be slot limits with a limit of one or two Bass.
This really brought back the fishing at lake Perris here in southern California.
As far as the cheater box the only thing I can think of is maybe a buee off a much larger section of the lake, like they do around dams but expand it. This would at least give the fish a haven. Wouldn't solve the problem completely but would cut down on the damage. This is more practical for small an medium/small lakes where you could literally corden off 20 or 30% of the lake without encroaching on recreation to much.
Not really practical to cordon off 30% of Cumberland lake but a few deep areas could be.
Anyway, I think these two measures would yield good results.
Too much pressure from other anglers. This is more proof that we are overpopulated
Fishing pressure is the main reason. The more lures the bass see, the less they bite them. They get hammered 300 days a year in the south. I usually do better when it’s cold because there is less pressure. FFS is speeding up the process of every fishery going to hell. Tournaments are probably the main culprit. Killing fish constantly. I’m so sick of the tournaments. It’s only meant to make people money and they’re killing our public fisheries.
Dude this is depressing makes you not want to fish anymore! I just enjoy being out on the water! Totally agree too much fishing pressure people playing video games out on the water now!
We are doomed in Kentucky. Just like the Asian carp, they'll do nothing until the bass are almost all gone.
Random thoughts here.
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On the shallow water thing. 2 questions, first, does this hold true for small ponds as well? or just these big bodies of water were studies are done?
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Second question.. Genetics.. Are some bass more inclined to stay deep, and others to stay shallow? Lets use East Coast Stripers as an example.. Back in the hay day of the late 70's, early 80's, everybody fished at night because you couldn't catch a Striper in the day, and then they wiped them out.. Now, no point in fishing at night, you can catch them all day long.. My theory is that the fish that were genetically designed to feed at night were all harvested, and the few that were day feeders survived, and are breeding and became the majority of the population.
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If most people are catching the shallow water bass, then that would be the population that gets decimated, and all that would be left would be bass that like deep water Just a thought. Not an accusation or a conclusion at all. Just a thought.
Very well put ,very high probability that could be a major factor,instinctive survival
you should try fishing high pressured states. you will be happy to catch a 5 incher largemouth that 30 anglers have tried to passing by the spot.
I agree with everything you said accept the delayed mortality. We would be seeing them float to the top and that’s simply not the case. Too many eyes on the water if they were floating up dead. I do believe you’re right about everything else.
Funny you should mention this, I found a picture yesterday of a tournament My Dad and I won on Grand Lake. It was the 1st tournament in February in 1982, we had a 5 fish bag totaling 19.1 with the winning big fish of 5.1, we caught all of them in less than 10 feet of water. There is no way you could do that today, I don't use FFS, nor will I ever, but I don't think you could catch that kind of bag today in February with or without it on Grand.
Ffs is killing the fish, they are dying two or three days after being released , the fishermen never even know it. I’ve witnessed it several times being that I live on a lake. That’s why less are shallow, because they are dead.
Covid created a time where many people were out of work or just not working and many people got into fishing during that time. I’d bet 60% of those are still at it. Kayak bass fishing tournaments (which has been blown out into plastic bass boat tournaments, have everything but the outboard and livewell..), that has also increased pressure and tournament numbers in a more behind the scenes way due to the length of time these tournaments run.
I grew up fishing daily in Florida in the 70s and 80s.. The last 35 years i have lived in Spain.. when i go back to florida i am amazed how much the fishing pressure has increased.. its mind boggling in most bodies of water.. also the lakes recieve way more run off .. I realize how lucky I was to fish those years..
Water quality is lower, algae blooms prevail, way more Fishermen, reproduction is lower and ski boats are out more often
All the immigrants that don’t care about limits keep everything and way too many. That’s part of the problem. We need better enforcement of limits and fines. I tell them hey you can’t keep that and they act like the can’t understand me. So that’s a big part of the issue.
Almost hate to say its true...but its true...and we have to admit it. We have a responsibility to protect what we have.... they dont.
Great analysis. Do you think the water quality is still the same as 20 yrs ago? Just a thought, like farmers rotate crops so land can recover. Why doesn't state fish organization not allow tournaments in a lake for a year or two?
That's a really good idea....why don't fisheries managers address it?
The first thing that came to mind is it's no wonder with all of the toxicity raining down on us from the skies. It's the environmental factor seldom thought of, perhaps because it's essentially invisable, but we know that there are many spraying programs over the entire country spraying inorganic particulates in the sky. Could this be effecting aquatic life? It seems so. Would the shallows be first effected, the plants and baitfish? What do you think Randy? Thanks
(1) Bass Biomass has ben converted to Asian Carp, Snakeheads, and other invasive species. (2) Farmers and growers are using fertilyzers more responsibly, leading to less aquatic nutrients. (3) Spotted Bass Stocking in new waters.(4) Thermoclines are eliminated by drawing water off the bottom of lakes, or deep water is aerated with diffused oxygen. This allows fish to go much deeper. (5) Electronics now allow fishermen to effectively fish deep. (6) Rules can be made to ban fishing water deeper than 30 feet or a set distance from shore. Rules that set depth limits have saved revived fish species in our ocean waters. Lots of other unknown possibilities.
I believe that have tournaments were banned during the spawn. There would be a significant turnaround with the problem at hand
We can't trust anglers but we should trust you. Could you please post the 3 year study for us to view?
I'm lucky to get 5 small fish on a day of fishing here in South Carolina.
If you go to the same deer stand consistently..will they stay or move ?
Close the Lakes during the spawn?
The wake boat boaters
Thank god nobody fishes those ponds off the freeways they dug up to build the over passes. I’ve been fishing them for years and not once have I been kicked out or approached by a land owner or a game warden. The bass in those lakes are huge and protected. I’ve taken so many pics the past 10 years plus go pro videos are priceless. And 100% catch and release. If I just got started into bass fishing I would never have the skills I’ve learned over the past 50 years and think the only way to fish is with FFS. I’ll never pay 100 grand to fish lakes that most are ruin by this new technology. I’m a professional Bank Beater. Looking forward in the next few weeks for some great fishing.
Another “study”
WELL SINCE THEY ARE Restocking SO MANY Florida strain bass & they are notorious for moving & adapting to different areas & habits
Lakes Michigan, Huron, Erie, and Ontario have all experienced record-high average surface temperatures in 2024. At some point don't bass want cooler water? They deeper they go the colder it gets. Warmer water, forward facing sonar, record amount of bass fishing. Something has to give.
Pressure.Pressure.Pressure.
Well thank goodness we have the right technology now to find them out deep! Lmao
Well thanks to swamp for mindlessly blathering away on the keyboard....makes you wonder if he was even awake when he pressed the "reply" button.
About the least scientific study ever. No control, no population to compare at any given time. Maybe the study should say” the amount of catchable bass shallow has declined” you don’t know if it pressure or lack of fish@ that would have to come from shock studies or using a net and approximation
this is bullshit
They killed every fish in a lake in Florida few weeks ago.
Idk why this surprises you. Ppl are so stupid. They wipe out all the shore line cover . The shallows are the highest pressured areas on then lake.. they still gotta go to the bank at least once a year.
If you ever want to have big fish again you better be EATING the hell out of some BASS.
Big bass stay in 20 plus feet water and move up to 6 and shallower to feed for a hour is so every day
Amen
Social media, live tournaments coverage, and knowledge has quadrupled among fishermen. Not many secrets especially shallow. Also Buck Perry talked about fish every decade seemed to be moving deeper. I think shad being introduced was a driver. Now that we know tons of bass are pelagic those fish are most likely reproduced the most. Still not there on bass tournaments and ffs causing fish kills.
nature has its own way of protecting its self. just as humans adapt to situations nature will as well..
Well it’s always more than one reason for a problem like this. Shoreline fishing has gotten bad long before ffs. Many factors have been responsible like fishing pressure, loss of habitat, runoff and overall lower bass population due to many things. So until regulation corrects this there will be more problems.
You mentioned the bass evolving. What we are seeing is an example of artificial selection. We have extracted the most aggressive and easily accessible bass from the water over several generations and are left with the bass that are less aggressive and favor deeper water. The only way we will get those bass back is to have the biologist attack the problem at the genetic level. Texas parks and wildlife does a good job at producing the bigger bass, but maybe they also should try to focus on more aggressive bass that favor shallow water.
I've heard this argument before.....well worth an in detail study and ongoing conversation. great comment!
Tell the government they will pay someone to tell whatever they want to project instead of taking the words of many pros and putting that same money into a solution
The meat eating has grown by leaps,I see pics everyday from my home lake,vacationers and locals catching 2 and 3 pounders,all going to the pan,crappie are 75% gone from not imposing a limit
Not here in Canada. Overfishing in the US is a real thing.
Dear Randy! I will gladly consider giving up my cheater box, which has not helped me yet the day you start talking about professional 500 boat tournaments happening on the lakes. You pro's do more damage In a 3 day tournament then I possibly could in a year with my box.
So your now saying pounding the bank is bad
But in every video you make you talk about only pounding the banks
Now studies about tournaments that you do and pounding the banks as you do is only hurting the bass
So really cause of you!!!!!!!! And not ffs is the cause of less bass hhhhhmmmm
pretty sure this guy missed his naptime
@onecitizen90 why for speaking the truth and showing what a hippicrait he is
Why don't you take notes and learn something
You literally saying don’t trust angler surveys, lol you entire study was your buddies telling you what they catch, literally same thing
was there a point to this comment?
@ did you watch the video? He said you can’t trust surveys done where they poll anglers. Then his entire study is him “ an angler” and his buddies around the country that are telling him what they catch. That’s the point to the comment. Also this not a very well run study. And there is no way to prove this is a conclusion with our population statistics. Not catching the same number of fish has so many variables. But he doesn’t know if the fish are there or not
@@ryanbootle89 the idea is not about polling anglers and trusting the answers or not. Blaukat is a long time successful professional angler, his opinions carry some weight. His friends, probably guides and tournament pros, also carry some weight. Together they agree that something is not good with the trend they see. Try to contribute something positive or maybe just listen and think about what you are hearing. Didn't intend to offend you.
@ didn’t offend me, just saying the fish are gone isn’t not the same as maybe there is a lot more pressure. Some lakes the fish are smaller because of increased populations where people don’t keep enough fish. The tournament weights in the major bass fishing trails are larger than ever. Lakes also have good and bad years from droughts/ new lake effect etc. just remembering the “good ol days” doesn’t make a study. I’m not discounting any factors mentioned, Randy claimed he doesn’t believe the state fishery biologists.
@@onecitizen90yes. That RB is FOS!
Maybe your tip videos are working just to good
PSA Bass aren't stupid but people are! 😅
I do agree FFS is a nasty nasty problem. Pressure has obviously risen. More people are eating bass. More disrespectful anglers without honorable teachers. Fish aren't as healthy because of toxic run off and more introduced disease through various sources. The big bass being abused by people that should know what they are doing is the dressing on the bass fishing sh@t salad.
No one owns the water. Record high pressure/ license sales. High pressure fish add to the fun. Harvesting bass is healthy to create throphy fish.
I live in Missouri more people are fishing for sure but how do u fix it how so you decide which tournaments can fish and which cant unfortunately slot limits dont work if people are going to keep fish their going to do it i think the asian carp problem in Mo is a bigger issue they eat alot of grass and litteraly kill bass habitat personally i think tou limit the number of livescope tournamets a year you can have but conservation laws budget cuts and people not caring are the problem until people care it wont be fixed
Well said wildthing. Nothing happens until people get focused on the issue and take it to the powers that be.
I can’t say one way or another that your conclusions are accurate, but I find it hilarious that you criticize fish and game’s methods, and then say you use the exact same methods. The lack of self awareness is wild. I watched it just shaking my head in disbelief.
Becuase they not making it to shallow water
You hit all the relevant areas but two. They can go-pro and pic the fish with immediate release. ban bed fishing period
makes no sense, all those people with the cheater box off shore, the pressure should be less and only us old guys should be beating the bank, us old guys must be destroying the shallow fishery
It’s the pleasure boats waking them off the bank. Stop hating on livescope and expose the real problem.
I dont think it has anything to do with delayed mortality at all. Or people eating bass….Tons of crappie get taken out of my home lake every year, so many fish, for years! and it is insane how many there are and how healthy the population and size is… however I do think the amount of pressure on these bass, with sooooo many people fishing now, along with scope, they get caught out deep before moving up, and are so educated and pressured, it makes it tough to catch fish shallow and traditionally. Nature is always going to survive and find a way, and these bass are going to adapt to what’s going on, whether it’s more bass going deeper and deeper or middle roaming or whatever the case is. Pressure is the main reason period
Not sure I agree with this but I appreciate the thought...we have to start a conversation on these things. I think we all can agree, our fisheries need better management and this is how we start the discussion.
Why is it that biologists are saying we need to keep more bass but, Randy says people keeping and fish kills. I’m serious someone answer that bc people do catch and release more than they ever did and back in the day they kept way more bass and yet Randy is talking about the fishing was the best when people was keeping more fish. Hmm something isn’t adding up and there we go again of hypocritical statements that he contradicts himself again and again.
Born in 1970 been bass fishing since the early 1980s things have changed they always do but still catch bass consistently bass will always be bass but still catch bass up shallow all year long don’t care for it can’t be done mentality not my thing cause I catch ‘em year in year out how about some actual bass fishing videos
That's probably why everyone is going to ffs. To find the fish. That's why people are dropping the big cakes on it
tortured logic at best.