was a great game but changes made over past year or so have ruined it, player base dropping and huge pay 2 win focus with silly prices. It can be fun if you play with people but often you end up in a team that just crumbles and you get frustrated easy.
Ya cause no one apparently knows what they are doing they just run in and get blown il right away and then it’s always just us battle ship players left
@@billdozer_6840 Exactly, thats the problem. New players are able to purchase T7/T8 ships, now they can even purchase the Yoshino (legendary tier) if they spend enough without any base knowledge. These people are the ones sitting in your team either pushing directly towards their death or they are hugging some kind of island or drive to the edge of the map.
Pay to win yeah I guess but if you can't play the game right you're just going to die so it doesn't really matter if you want to pay all that money for a ship if you can't strategize or play the game properly.
It’s not ptw. It’s that less experienced players can play “more experienced” tiers. PtW means u can buy advantages which isn’t true if they are a bad player. Which every comment says 😂
@@Anonymous-jv7ys I don' actually see this one being a problem. It would be more of a gimmick because it would have to stay on surface in order for its aircrafts to start or land. I suppose the only benefit it would have would be a possibility to stay on surface far away like regular aircraft carrier or submerge and stay undetected. Wouldn't be able to do both though.
Good video. Longtime WOW console player here (Ps4). When the carriers were introduced to the PC version, I know there was A LOT of problems, many players hated them and they've been through several reworks. The impression I get is that a lot of players still don't like CVs. They've since come to the PS4, and there is definite dislike for them here as well. Realizing historical accuracy is not exactly a priority in WOW, but their idea of subs is so wildly different from historical submarines that you might as well just say they have wizards on board. One thing I'll say that I expect to see. There are now ships in the game that were built in the 1950s - that DD you were driving first up is one example. That was also when nuclear-powered submarines became a thing. With this in mind, I fully expect to see early-model nuclear subs come to the game, specifically USS Nautilus and the USSR's 'November' class. Presumably, as some kind of Super-Premium sort of deal. My speculation, anyhow.
I know this is a sponsorship deal and you don’t have the time to sink into that game but it really show cases how much of a hindrance you can be to your team when you just buy your way to the top and not play from low teir to high teir. It’s a big issue in that game is the only reason I’m pointing it out.
The best game ever, Eagle best carrier in the game, Kleber best Destroyer in the game. I vaped 127 in one game in that gronner ship. that ship is a funny to run into when it is a full AA build. fun as hell
Oh you silly goose. I am pretty sure this is a press accounts for him to make content (read advertisement) about the game. He paid nothing for this, but I bet there are strict rules surrounding using the account for this purpose only.
Many post-war submarines were based on the german Type XXI. And I don't understand, why the game doesn't start with german, japanese and US submarines, but only japanese and Soviet. Soviet had nothing to offer on that front during the war. But hey, Wargaming is russian and don't really give much for sense and realism.
Uhm that's not actually true at all. Though the Soviet Navy was less active due to its fleet being stuck in the black sea compared to other ww2 nations they did 100% use and have submarines during ww2. They experienced heavy loses but the S class M class and Shchuka (pike in english) or Щука in cyrillic class submarines served in both the baltic and pacific theaters. Just to name a few. Though the pacific theater was during 45 post German surrender. The Soviet Baltic fleet was quite active during the war. On a technical note the Italians and Soviets had the largest submarine fleets of the war and I only attribute the lack of coverage for these nations due to poor performance or doctrinal differences (anti shipping vs anti warship) and direct western interest in Germany Japan and American things from the war. Even the royal navy had a small sub fleet but we never really discuss that either.
@@MalenkiyKabanchyk i think the complaint is more them not starting with older WW2 subs and dropping in a WW2 era Japan sub, vs a (i assume) Cold War era+ USSR sub. but, ehh
@@ElderonAnalas As I will agree that it's a 50s sub which makes no sense from wargaming. The OP said "Soviets had nothing to offer on that front during the war." Which there complaint is saying Russia didnt have subs. They did op doesnt know what they are talking about in that regard but yes the russian sub they put in is post war and based on german tech. It is a museum boat so probably the easiest one for them to get access to and 3d model
Well I’ve been playing for 3-2 years on and off I play for like 1-2 hours every second month and I have the best German aircraft carrier lol not really pay to win
If they do not ask submarines into world of warships Legends for console then a lot of people are going to be jumping ship to war thunder because of war thunder has plans to add submarines in to its tech trees
Game used to be lots of fun. No more. This guy has clearly been paid to produce this video. CV and subs have almost zero counter play from other classes of ships. Carrier play is to sit at the far edge of the map where no one can spot you or have the range to hit you and just spam endless waves of planes. Subs can submerge, can’t be spotted even with hydro-acoustic search and can launch guided torps at surface ships that are impossible to dodge as they home in on the victim ship. Both are designed to allow noob players to have success in the game, but both Carriers and subs become very boring to play very quickly and these players stop playing the game quickly.
i mean, he disclosed it was a sponsered video at 0:27 as well as the fact there's "_PA" in the account name, meaning "Press Account" where WarGaming gave/lent him an account with all the ships already unlocked.
Are the subs able on World of Warships Legends? and another question is do the destroyers now have depth charges because they have rails/droppers for depth charges on most of the ship in the game?
if you're wanting realistic, go look at War Thunder, WoWs has never really been focused with historical accuracy, all the ships have always been speedboats compared to IRL counterparts
War thunder is less pay to win more pay to grind way easier sales help a lot and make it affordable. If you grind high in the tech tree you can easily destroy premium planes,tanks or ships I always focus them they easy to kill
great see you in wows, been playing the game from june 2015, it is a great game, but i see you have much to learn as we all had when we start playing the game, btw gröningen is not a great dd 🙂. anyway welcome to the game..👋
Just went back and revisited it my self a few days ago and its worse than has ever been. Uninstalled it. I was an alpha tester and it was way better in the beginning.
dont waste your time on either this or tanks , unless you put money into it "Free to Play remember" know matter what tank or ship you choose you go in as the lowest and with players 2 x above you makes it not fun , played since beta on both pc and console and its now worse than ever
Played this game for years since Pre Alpha testing. The Matchmaker is simply complete AIDS. 90% of the time the games will be a very one sided affair, 10% of the time (if your lucky) the game will be close & interesting. Spent way too much time & $$ in this horrible game. Never again.
Started off well, but once in the submarine - such a comment in poor taste "to shoot a whale with a torpedo!". Doesn't this guy realise virtually every cetacean species is under threat due to mankind. Even in a computer game, this in in poor taste and sets a bad example. Voted down and will not view this channel again - will also try to persuade all those i know to avoid this channel as well
You done crying yet? 🤣🤣🤣... You're probably 1 of those 🤡s in WoT who whines about arty being OP but yet 9 out of 10 of you cry-hards has NO idea wtf dispersion is 🤣🤣🤣... OR your silly azz hides behind WOODEN buildings & then wonder why you get popped... 🙄🤦♂️🙄...
@@pedrohicken3884 lmfao... you mistake intent - I am just tired of 🤡s crying about something being "op" just because it hurts their wittle fweelings or they don't take time to UNDERSTAND how the mechanics work... Everyone who plays KNOWS what RNG is, but they don't whine about it, ffs...
🤔🤔🤔...I bumped sometimes in this kind of warship / tanks/ airplane games ....being somekind of realism buff I quitted every time for the same reasons. Besides the awesome graphics and ships rendering nothing this kind of games offer has anything to do with real world realism or historic accuracy. The speed at which the ships move...😒😒😒the maneuvers performed without accounting for small details like tonnage or inertia....firing/ showering heavy artillery like some kind of garden irrigation system....and other and other things😮💨😮💨😮💨....in short if you want to be robbed from your cash and burn out your brain cells in the process you must play this kind of games. You deserve them .🫡🫡🫡
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was a great game but changes made over past year or so have ruined it, player base dropping and huge pay 2 win focus with silly prices. It can be fun if you play with people but often you end up in a team that just crumbles and you get frustrated easy.
Same with legends
Ya cause no one apparently knows what they are doing they just run in and get blown il right away and then it’s always just us battle ship players left
@@billdozer_6840 Exactly, thats the problem. New players are able to purchase T7/T8 ships, now they can even purchase the Yoshino (legendary tier) if they spend enough without any base knowledge. These people are the ones sitting in your team either pushing directly towards their death or they are hugging some kind of island or drive to the edge of the map.
Pay to win yeah I guess but if you can't play the game right you're just going to die so it doesn't really matter if you want to pay all that money for a ship if you can't strategize or play the game properly.
It’s not ptw. It’s that less experienced players can play “more experienced” tiers. PtW means u can buy advantages which isn’t true if they are a bad player. Which every comment says 😂
i wish they added the japanese submarine aircraft carrier
it would be a unique playstyle
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I don' actually see this one being a problem. It would be more of a gimmick because it would have to stay on surface in order for its aircrafts to start or land.
I suppose the only benefit it would have would be a possibility to stay on surface far away like regular aircraft carrier or submerge and stay undetected. Wouldn't be able to do both though.
It was the K-19 "Widowmaker", the movie is somewhat accurate, it combined a few of the events into one, but that ship was CURSED.
I love SS. I am only here for SS. Next videos, can you please put timeline from SS game in the caption? That would be cool.
Good video. Longtime WOW console player here (Ps4). When the carriers were introduced to the PC version, I know there was A LOT of problems, many players hated them and they've been through several reworks. The impression I get is that a lot of players still don't like CVs. They've since come to the PS4, and there is definite dislike for them here as well.
Realizing historical accuracy is not exactly a priority in WOW, but their idea of subs is so wildly different from historical submarines that you might as well just say they have wizards on board.
One thing I'll say that I expect to see. There are now ships in the game that were built in the 1950s - that DD you were driving first up is one example. That was also when nuclear-powered submarines became a thing. With this in mind, I fully expect to see early-model nuclear subs come to the game, specifically USS Nautilus and the USSR's 'November' class. Presumably, as some kind of Super-Premium sort of deal. My speculation, anyhow.
Very nice. And you're a pretty good Captain
Just started to play this game..
I know this is a sponsorship deal and you don’t have the time to sink into that game but it really show cases how much of a hindrance you can be to your team when you just buy your way to the top and not play from low teir to high teir. It’s a big issue in that game is the only reason I’m pointing it out.
Finally more world of warships. I’ve been waiting a long time for this day.
Thanks for the awesome game play 🤟🏾
Wow
This game is excellent as long as you don't burn yourself on it.
Need to take breaks.
Awesome game I havent played this for ages must go back and have a look!
dont, its shit
The best game ever, Eagle best carrier in the game, Kleber best Destroyer in the game. I vaped 127 in one game in that gronner ship. that ship is a funny to run into when it is a full AA build. fun as hell
They took sub's and ruined them. The torpedo's should be as powerful as a destroyer
subs!
❤
I would like WG to put submarines in blitz as well. 😊😊😊
Silent Hunter Online (okay it is a different game) we miss you a lot!! 😢😢😢😓😞😞😞
This had better be permanent this time.
when the subs were introduced in the game, a tactical game for ships is not possible anymore.
Best Beard Best Games
Is the sub feature for PC only or is it coming to consoles to?
250,000 gold! Wow. I appreciate players like you who buy your ships so that the rest of us don’t have to.
Oh you silly goose. I am pretty sure this is a press accounts for him to make content (read advertisement) about the game. He paid nothing for this, but I bet there are strict rules surrounding using the account for this purpose only.
It’s a press account. You can clearly see it from the _PA suffix in his game name
Oh, I didn’t know. I thought it meant a country or something
I'm an Burke class type guy
Are subs only on pc right now? And if so does anyone know anything about them coming to console?
Raptor, I love your videos and I appreciate the time you put into making content but buddy... I don't think this game is for you ❤️
Remember subs are stand off vessels always fire torp first then ping lest wait time and harder to predict
Many post-war submarines were based on the german Type XXI. And I don't understand, why the game doesn't start with german, japanese and US submarines, but only japanese and Soviet. Soviet had nothing to offer on that front during the war.
But hey, Wargaming is russian and don't really give much for sense and realism.
Uhm that's not actually true at all. Though the Soviet Navy was less active due to its fleet being stuck in the black sea compared to other ww2 nations they did 100% use and have submarines during ww2. They experienced heavy loses but the S class M class and Shchuka (pike in english) or Щука in cyrillic class submarines served in both the baltic and pacific theaters. Just to name a few. Though the pacific theater was during 45 post German surrender. The Soviet Baltic fleet was quite active during the war. On a technical note the Italians and Soviets had the largest submarine fleets of the war and I only attribute the lack of coverage for these nations due to poor performance or doctrinal differences (anti shipping vs anti warship) and direct western interest in Germany Japan and American things from the war. Even the royal navy had a small sub fleet but we never really discuss that either.
@@MalenkiyKabanchyk i think the complaint is more them not starting with older WW2 subs and dropping in a WW2 era Japan sub, vs a (i assume) Cold War era+ USSR sub. but, ehh
@@ElderonAnalas As I will agree that it's a 50s sub which makes no sense from wargaming. The OP said "Soviets had nothing to offer on that front during the war." Which there complaint is saying Russia didnt have subs. They did op doesnt know what they are talking about in that regard but yes the russian sub they put in is post war and based on german tech. It is a museum boat so probably the easiest one for them to get access to and 3d model
Well I’ve been playing for 3-2 years on and off I play for like 1-2 hours every second month and I have the best German aircraft carrier lol not really pay to win
maybe a giant squid....
If they do not ask submarines into world of warships Legends for console then a lot of people are going to be jumping ship to war thunder because of war thunder has plans to add submarines in to its tech trees
Subs look awesome but why is there a third person for them lol
How many of you here are bots? lol
100%
My favorite ship the West Virginia Battleship Tier 8 premium
Great vid, but I don't like World of War Ships as much as Modern War Ships
WarGaming just loves to think up new ways of ruining their games. Subs are just the latest in the line.
Need subs in legends
Game used to be lots of fun. No more. This guy has clearly been paid to produce this video. CV and subs have almost zero counter play from other classes of ships. Carrier play is to sit at the far edge of the map where no one can spot you or have the range to hit you and just spam endless waves of planes. Subs can submerge, can’t be spotted even with hydro-acoustic search and can launch guided torps at surface ships that are impossible to dodge as they home in on the victim ship. Both are designed to allow noob players to have success in the game, but both Carriers and subs become very boring to play very quickly and these players stop playing the game quickly.
i mean, he disclosed it was a sponsered video at 0:27 as well as the fact there's "_PA" in the account name, meaning "Press Account" where WarGaming gave/lent him an account with all the ships already unlocked.
FYI- AAA in this game does nothing.
Are the subs able on World of Warships Legends? and another question is do the destroyers now have depth charges because they have rails/droppers for depth charges on most of the ship in the game?
Never For World of Warships PC only
I thought this game was supposed to be the most realistic?? The ships were NEVER that quick?
if you're wanting realistic, go look at War Thunder, WoWs has never really been focused with historical accuracy, all the ships have always been speedboats compared to IRL counterparts
The torpedo tubes are called the bow tubes and the stern tubes.
they broke CV's in this game, and its been shit ever since
This game is not pay to win you still need a little bit of skill you can’ buy a auto win button
It was ok but all these games from wargaming are 100% pay to win now.
War thunder is less pay to win more pay to grind way easier sales help a lot and make it affordable. If you grind high in the tech tree you can easily destroy premium planes,tanks or ships I always focus them they easy to kill
This is a bad take. WoW is actually pretty balanced. I would say that WT is more PtW.
great see you in wows, been playing the game from june 2015, it is a great game, but i see you have much to learn as we all had when we start playing the game, btw gröningen is not a great dd 🙂. anyway welcome to the game..👋
I was thinking the same.. the game has a big learning curve 😜 hope to see raptor back for more
Groningen is a great DD if its used correctly.
Gröningen slaps, but it’s hard to learn.
subs is just so hard to get thats why i stoped playing world of warships
Just went back and revisited it my self a few days ago and its worse than has ever been. Uninstalled it. I was an alpha tester and it was way better in the beginning.
Great Vid... but you have proven everything I say about subs... 100% useless due to the torps being so freaking weak.... But again... great vid !!!!
Sad this shit isn't on console us on console play wow: legends and its completely shit without submarines
Subs have ruined the game on pc. Trust me be glad they are not on console
Just saying still no Subs on console?
Game looks pretty interesting but I have to be honest, the sub gameplay looks really boring
dont waste your time on either this or tanks , unless you put money into it "Free to Play remember" know matter what tank or ship you choose you go in as the lowest and with players 2 x above you makes it not fun , played since beta on both pc and console and its now worse than ever
Played this game for years since Pre Alpha testing. The Matchmaker is simply complete AIDS. 90% of the time the games will be a very one sided affair, 10% of the time (if your lucky) the game will be close & interesting. Spent way too much time & $$ in this horrible game. Never again.
subs are BS........wont be spending any money on the game until they do something about them.
Game is trash
Started off well, but once in the submarine - such a comment in poor taste "to shoot a whale with a torpedo!". Doesn't this guy realise virtually every cetacean species is under threat due to mankind. Even in a computer game, this in in poor taste and sets a bad example. Voted down and will not view this channel again - will also try to persuade all those i know to avoid this channel as well
Still waiting for the jap and rus subs!! Where are they??!!
It looks really crap now, cartoony and the ships look like they’re moving way too fast, it’s just ridiculous.
REMOVE SUBS FROM THE GAME THEY ARE OP AND BS
You done crying yet? 🤣🤣🤣... You're probably 1 of those 🤡s in WoT who whines about arty being OP but yet 9 out of 10 of you cry-hards has NO idea wtf dispersion is 🤣🤣🤣...
OR your silly azz hides behind WOODEN buildings & then wonder why you get popped... 🙄🤦♂️🙄...
Alright mate! put your rod away! Jeez..
@@pedrohicken3884 lmfao... you mistake intent - I am just tired of 🤡s crying about something being "op" just because it hurts their wittle fweelings or they don't take time to UNDERSTAND how the mechanics work...
Everyone who plays KNOWS what RNG is, but they don't whine about it, ffs...
🤔🤔🤔...I bumped sometimes in this kind of warship / tanks/ airplane games ....being somekind of realism buff I quitted every time for the same reasons. Besides the awesome graphics and ships rendering nothing this kind of games offer has anything to do with real world realism or historic accuracy. The speed at which the ships move...😒😒😒the maneuvers performed without accounting for small details like tonnage or inertia....firing/ showering heavy artillery like some kind of garden irrigation system....and other and other things😮💨😮💨😮💨....in short if you want to be robbed from your cash and burn out your brain cells in the process you must play this kind of games. You deserve them .🫡🫡🫡