I know I'm watching this video later, but I've watched all your more recent content and decided to go back through the catalogue based on RUclips recommendations! I absolutely love these red MSI boards. I've got to check your catalogue now to see if you did an operating system install on this machine after… Loving your videos! All the best from Newfoundland!
I Had the same motherboard in the past. It's a great board by MSI. Be careful too as I could can get capacitor problems when aging. You also plug in the CPU fan into Chipset fan. Made that mistake too the first time installing the motherboard. Good video and keep them coming 😁
Thanks for this info, I will double check that connection haha. The fact we were able to get the mount repaired was awesome. I will keep an eye out for the capacitors. New video set to release on Saturday. Thanks again for watching!
I visited the local electronics recycling dumpster today. 3 PS3s 2 XBOX 360s and enough stereo equipment to setup a system for a small stadium. But I could only save a Dell "Sandwich Heater" case with a Core 2 Duo @1.86 Ghz.
I’d love to know about how to do this at my local electronics places! There is a goodwill finally able to sell 2nd and 3rd gen intel core Mac’s. I can’t wait to get a 4th gen MacBook Pro.
Great video, I could only dream of such a system back then 😁 only had an AM2 Athlon 64 3500+ years later in 2006. At the time, however, it was already out of date. The dual cores were already big in the race.
This processor came out in 2004, I had the 3200+ model, I loved the socket 939 platform. I later swapped in an Opteron 180cpu into that system, what a great upgrade that was, going to dual core.
Nice share! I was never heavy into the AMD brand... more of an Intel guy - however in retrospect, the more I use these systems... I can see why they were so popular!!
Cool, I recall building 5 identitcal systems like this for a client, 2006-ish. Almost exactly the same: Silver Aopen QF50C case with Aopen power supply, AMD 64 3200+, red MSI board, 160 GB (?) hard drive, 1 GB RAM, Geforce FX5200 and Windows XP of course.
I had some problems with the heatsink spring lugs snapping off randomly on 2 later MS 7506 boards. Maybe happened on this and the fan mount was messed up when it was replaced. Had to print a couple of replacements for mine but still working ok!
@@TheRetroRecall Yes, easy to find designs on thingiverse etc. Mine were socket AM2 boards. Have one in a Athlon X2 4200 dual core system. Boots XP and even Win 10 fine with 4gb memory and SSD!
I just bought a similar pc at a flea market with close to this same graphics card and the fan was also seized like this. I was able to get it spinning, although I would not feel comfortable running it. Crazy how this seems to be an issue on the fans of this era graphics card.
this was about the time I switched from AMD to Intel CPUs because I went through 3 CPU/MB combos and could not for the life of me get one that was stable enough to run windows. I have to admit though that these were still good chips, I just couldn't afford to buy all new equipment so I was bringing my sound card, and video card from my previous Athlon XP system, so it may have been older hardware/driver compatibility issue
We sound very much alike in that regard, always carrying on older hardware into newer builds as we could get new tech. Also - watching my older videos.... Scary!
Even my latest upgrade (13th gen intel CPU/MB/DDR5 RAM, I brought the PSU, GPU, and SSDs over from my old system :) lol the older videos, although less polished, are great, I work from home and set a playlist with a bunch of videos and just watch and work....@@TheRetroRecall
Had a friend that used a PC with this CPU until 2016. It was still even capable to run youtube in fullhd without any issues and it finally got retired in 2016 when the ECS motherboard finally died. Not bad for a singlecore processor to be useful for such a long time. That board died in a weird way too,one of those small transistors that are usually around the chipset just fell of the board and it was rattling inside the case. I have no idea how it even become that loose by itself to just detatch itself
Love this share! So cool to hear of the retro tech living for so long after it's expected 'end of life'. I hope they kept the CPU for another board! Thanks for watching!
@@TheRetroRecall I actually still have that CPU in my collection as a display piece. Maybe those old computers did not last as many years compared to more "modern" computers such as LGA 775 ones that are still somewhat useful even today if you don't want to game,but the retro ones could last quite a lot too. I used my original Athlon XP build since 2003 when i got it all the way till 2011,then i borrowed it to a family member for school work until he could get a computer of his own and it served him 2012-2014 till he finally decided to get one of his own and then it served as a music PC in my store 2017-2022 when Spotify and any web browser have finally decided to not support it anymore due to lack of SSE2 instructions. Probably the most reliable computer i ever had,all it ever needed in it's whole life was a PSU replacement
Great job and a nice video. I am using a Vakuum cleaner first to get loose of the biggest dirt. Cooler blocks are getting a full bath in soap water. Is there a reason why you don't?
Yes for sure - I had used what I discovered in it for a floppy, but a faceless one would save a face for another build. I'm looking forward to getting rid of the yellowing of the plastic as well and really get it restored.
Hey i really like your videos but i was wondering if you might be able to make playlist of video based on the content like pc builds and things it makes it easier for new people like me to find videos from your channel
I like to comment on the smaller channels where I can, I find they appreciate the interaction a bit more (most comments get ❤'d). Plus I enjoy chilling to this type of content 😊
@@TheRetroRecall never had any problems. I just blow out most of the water then let it sit for about 2 days. I've done this to many various MBs from different eras
I'm so glad you decided to go with that great-looking case, and it turned out great! You definitely had your work cut out for you on this one, it was pretty mangled. I have to admit, I'm not familiar with Athlon processors (I'm an Intel guy)---will this system do retro games pretty well?
Hey there, it will depending on what era of retro gaming you want to do. If you are looking at the hard core older games then Win98SE is probably a better system to go with and keeping ram to 128 or 256mb ram. Also, depending on the age of the game the CPU cycles may be too fast... However games from the late 90s, early to mid 2000s should be just fine and will likely work with XP (at least that has been my experience :))
Thanks for the feedback. No matter what video I watch online or what I read, there always seems to be comments around Thermal grease and it's application. It seems everyone has a version of what to use haha. Either way, it's good to know and thank you!
Honestly I wouldn't retrobrite that case, would last longer with a light sand and white paint. Looks like the only problem would be getting the blue separated and covering up the amd sticker.
These video cards are really good cards, until that fan goes. That's what happened to mine. You can find fans online for these, but you have to spend a lot of time sifting through the listings..
@@TheRetroRecall I live in Richmond, B.C., Canada. I have many left over components from over the years. If you would like, and not too much $ to send to you, you're welcome to them.
Thanks for the feedback - however we did not end up using that card. We used the Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128 which is far better - and I believe more in line.
Appreciate the recommendation. I know we had done a few 98 builds and given the date of the CPU and board, etc... I figure XP will work quite well on this system. The nice thing about retro computing - we can always switch the OS if it isn't happy :).
AMD CPUs tended to be cheaper than their Intel counter parts, could be overclocked easily (with adequate cooling) etc. Despite this, I always chose Intel :)
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I know I'm watching this video later, but I've watched all your more recent content and decided to go back through the catalogue based on RUclips recommendations! I absolutely love these red MSI boards. I've got to check your catalogue now to see if you did an operating system install on this machine after… Loving your videos! All the best from Newfoundland!
Thank you and I'm glad you are enjoying!!!! Another Atlantic Canadian, welcome and happy to have you on board!
The Athlon 64 3000+ was a great CPU back then, very fast and relatively cheap compared to its Intel rivals.
And the overclocking abilities were awesome!
I Had the same motherboard in the past. It's a great board by MSI. Be careful too as I could can get capacitor problems when aging. You also plug in the CPU fan into Chipset fan. Made that mistake too the first time installing the motherboard. Good video and keep them coming 😁
Thanks for this info, I will double check that connection haha. The fact we were able to get the mount repaired was awesome. I will keep an eye out for the capacitors. New video set to release on Saturday. Thanks again for watching!
I visited the local electronics recycling dumpster today.
3 PS3s 2 XBOX 360s and enough stereo equipment to setup a system for a small stadium.
But I could only save a Dell "Sandwich Heater" case with a Core 2 Duo @1.86 Ghz.
Hey, at least you did save something! Keep your eye out... There are always older systems that pop up that need some TLC! Fun projects for sure.
I’d love to know about how to do this at my local electronics places! There is a goodwill finally able to sell 2nd and 3rd gen intel core Mac’s. I can’t wait to get a 4th gen MacBook Pro.
Thank you so much for an awesome video! :) looking forward to your next video ^^
You are more than welcome and thank you for the compliment! Stay tuned, new video set to release this Saturday!
Well done man. Love you vids. Long form is great.
Thanks for this and for watching!! Stay tuned :)
Great video, I could only dream of such a system back then 😁 only had an AM2 Athlon 64 3500+ years later in 2006. At the time, however, it was already out of date. The dual cores were already big in the race.
Awesome, thanks for sharing! It was such a race for sure... So many changes in technology that it was exciting. Not the same today haha.
This processor came out in 2004, I had the 3200+ model, I loved the socket 939 platform. I later swapped in an Opteron 180cpu into that system, what a great upgrade that was, going to dual core.
Nice share! I was never heavy into the AMD brand... more of an Intel guy - however in retrospect, the more I use these systems... I can see why they were so popular!!
Cool, I recall building 5 identitcal systems like this for a client, 2006-ish. Almost exactly the same: Silver Aopen QF50C case with Aopen power supply, AMD 64 3200+, red MSI board, 160 GB (?) hard drive, 1 GB RAM, Geforce FX5200 and Windows XP of course.
This share is amazing... Thank you!!!
I had some problems with the heatsink spring lugs snapping off randomly on 2 later MS 7506 boards. Maybe happened on this and the fan mount was messed up when it was replaced. Had to print a couple of replacements for mine but still working ok!
Awesome! You may be on to something there. Also I assume the print designs are available online just in case I need it in the future? Thanks!
@@TheRetroRecall Yes, easy to find designs on thingiverse etc. Mine were socket AM2 boards. Have one in a Athlon X2 4200 dual core system. Boots XP and even Win 10 fine with 4gb memory and SSD!
Awesome and that's sooo neat! So many of these systems were tossed for 'better systems'. So glad we are able to rescue some!
I make it a habbit to open up old power supplies to check for bad caps. More often than not theres at least 1 or 2 bad ones.
Not a bad practice, and I really should get into that habit as I've ruined a P4 MB that way in the past.
I just bought a similar pc at a flea market with close to this same graphics card and the fan was also seized like this. I was able to get it spinning, although I would not feel comfortable running it. Crazy how this seems to be an issue on the fans of this era graphics card.
Yes getting quite gummed up and failing. I still haven't put the time in to replace the fan yet, however I do have the card.
this was about the time I switched from AMD to Intel CPUs because I went through 3 CPU/MB combos and could not for the life of me get one that was stable enough to run windows. I have to admit though that these were still good chips, I just couldn't afford to buy all new equipment so I was bringing my sound card, and video card from my previous Athlon XP system, so it may have been older hardware/driver compatibility issue
We sound very much alike in that regard, always carrying on older hardware into newer builds as we could get new tech.
Also - watching my older videos.... Scary!
Even my latest upgrade (13th gen intel CPU/MB/DDR5 RAM, I brought the PSU, GPU, and SSDs over from my old system :)
lol the older videos, although less polished, are great, I work from home and set a playlist with a bunch of videos and just watch and work....@@TheRetroRecall
Love having your support 💜. Glad you are enjoying... Even the 'not so great' ones lol!
Had a friend that used a PC with this CPU until 2016. It was still even capable to run youtube in fullhd without any issues and it finally got retired in 2016 when the ECS motherboard finally died. Not bad for a singlecore processor to be useful for such a long time. That board died in a weird way too,one of those small transistors that are usually around the chipset just fell of the board and it was rattling inside the case. I have no idea how it even become that loose by itself to just detatch itself
Love this share! So cool to hear of the retro tech living for so long after it's expected 'end of life'. I hope they kept the CPU for another board! Thanks for watching!
@@TheRetroRecall I actually still have that CPU in my collection as a display piece. Maybe those old computers did not last as many years compared to more "modern" computers such as LGA 775 ones that are still somewhat useful even today if you don't want to game,but the retro ones could last quite a lot too. I used my original Athlon XP build since 2003 when i got it all the way till 2011,then i borrowed it to a family member for school work until he could get a computer of his own and it served him 2012-2014 till he finally decided to get one of his own and then it served as a music PC in my store 2017-2022 when Spotify and any web browser have finally decided to not support it anymore due to lack of SSE2 instructions. Probably the most reliable computer i ever had,all it ever needed in it's whole life was a PSU replacement
That's awesome and even cooler you have a showcase of the CPU!
Great job and a nice video. I am using a Vakuum cleaner first to get loose of the biggest dirt. Cooler blocks are getting a full bath in soap water. Is there a reason why you don't?
Depends on how deep I want to go. I introduce a bath in my latest video :)
These videos are great!
Thanks, I'm glad you are enjoying!
Excelente video hecho por vos, pero tengo una pregunta ¿Cuando estará la segunda parte? Ya estoy listo para verlo 😜. I m ready
Part 2 launches on Saturday :) Thanks so much for watching!
I like those older ATI cards, specifically the 7000 series cards..front of that case looks like you would use a faceless floppy drive
Yes for sure - I had used what I discovered in it for a floppy, but a faceless one would save a face for another build. I'm looking forward to getting rid of the yellowing of the plastic as well and really get it restored.
With the 'Magic Eraser', use some 'Arm & Hammer' tooth paste for cleaning discoloured cases.
That's a great idea. I'm definitely going to try that. Thanks for watching!
Hey i really like your videos but i was wondering if you might be able to make playlist of video based on the content like pc builds and things it makes it easier for new people like me to find videos from your channel
I will see what I can do!!
Huh, that Radeon is s really good candidate for flashing inti a Mac video card.
Nice! I will check that out... I never knew!
Those gpus are a lot slower than the 9600 pro. Similar gpus are the fx5600 ultra, ti4200 or radeon 9500.
Good to know, thank you!!
That cpu was released 2004, not 2001. 2001 was still socket a with athlon xp.
Thanks for this - the date written on the CPU is showing 2001. Happy to stand corrected, was simply reading off the CPU. :)
After further investigation - you are correct. Appreciate the help and info! I will pin a comment.
I like to comment on the smaller channels where I can, I find they appreciate the interaction a bit more (most comments get ❤'d). Plus I enjoy chilling to this type of content 😊
That's awesome, happy to have you here and thank's for watching!
@@TheRetroRecall All good man, chilling in bed on a Sunday morning here in Australia!
Hello from Canada on a Saturday evening :)
Can you a video on fresh install of win98 & Win xp
I certainly can! Stay tuned for Saturdays video!
I remove the CPU, memory, and battery and dunk the entire MB into DI water with some soap and use a 3 or 4 inch paint brush. It comes out super clean
Thanks for sharing this. I've seen it done however have always been skeptical. Have you ever run into any issues afterwards?
@@TheRetroRecall never had any problems. I just blow out most of the water then let it sit for about 2 days. I've done this to many various MBs from different eras
Thanks!
I'm so glad you decided to go with that great-looking case, and it turned out great! You definitely had your work cut out for you on this one, it was pretty mangled. I have to admit, I'm not familiar with Athlon processors (I'm an Intel guy)---will this system do retro games pretty well?
Hey there, it will depending on what era of retro gaming you want to do. If you are looking at the hard core older games then Win98SE is probably a better system to go with and keeping ram to 128 or 256mb ram. Also, depending on the age of the game the CPU cycles may be too fast... However games from the late 90s, early to mid 2000s should be just fine and will likely work with XP (at least that has been my experience :))
42:50 maaaan 😳 thas too much
Thanks for the feedback. No matter what video I watch online or what I read, there always seems to be comments around Thermal grease and it's application. It seems everyone has a version of what to use haha. Either way, it's good to know and thank you!
Honestly I wouldn't retrobrite that case, would last longer with a light sand and white paint. Looks like the only problem would be getting the blue separated and covering up the amd sticker.
Definitely a possibility. I've also heard that the retrobrite process can potentially make the plastics brittle?
ive never seen a red pcb from that era. that looks like it wouldve been a really fancy setup for back then. and that red msi cable is really cool too.
Totally! It's really nice to get it working considering it was just thrown to the trash!
From my own experience most of the red ones were MSI boards, ones i have seen anyway..no heatsink paste shame shame lol
Ohhh I added some for sure!!! (once I remembered haha!)
It's a wonder that cpu didn't cook with that heat sink so dirty
Haha agreed. I will be restoring all ewaste systems... There's hope!
Sometimes,WD40 helps to un-stuck a stuck fan.
Great recommendation! I think for this fan, it was a little too far gone unfortunately. However I will definitely try for a future project!
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This computer looks like a dutch train. :D
Haha
These video cards are really good cards, until that fan goes. That's what happened to mine. You can find fans online for these, but you have to spend a lot of time sifting through the listings..
Yes for sure, that's what I am planning on doing. I'm sure we will be able to get it going again.
@@TheRetroRecall I live in Richmond, B.C., Canada. I have many left over components from over the years. If you would like, and not too much $ to send to you, you're welcome to them.
That sounds awesome. Please email youtube@bravtech.ca and we can converse there. Thanks again!!
Cool
you did not plug the cpu fan on the correct place...
Have you watched the second video? I will double check to be sure, however it seemed to work just fine.
@@TheRetroRecall the fan is conected to north bridge, not cpu header... if this is smartfan , its not working this way..
Thanks, I will check it out!
29:16 Sorry, what?
A 9600 Pro is MANY times more powerful than a Rage 128 Pro, it’s not even remotely similar.
Thanks for the feedback - however we did not end up using that card. We used the Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128 which is far better - and I believe more in line.
I appreciate that this is a refurbishment project, but Windows 98 would be a much better suit for this system.
Appreciate the recommendation. I know we had done a few 98 builds and given the date of the CPU and board, etc... I figure XP will work quite well on this system. The nice thing about retro computing - we can always switch the OS if it isn't happy :).
The time from 2003, when the Athlon 64 came out, was already a high phase of XP. 98 was already old then.
Never liked AMD during that time with there deceiving performance numbers. Bunch of BS IMO
AMD CPUs tended to be cheaper than their Intel counter parts, could be overclocked easily (with adequate cooling) etc. Despite this, I always chose Intel :)