G35 Gets Z1 Adjustable Toe Arms [FIX Lowered Car Problems // Get Springs Or Coilovers? ](w/Pro Tips)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- S10:E2- A Detailed Overview of how to install Z1 Adjustable Toe Arms and Eccentric Bolt Elimination Kit, performed on a 2007 Infiniti G35 Coupe, with Jay.
Includes:
What options for toe adjustments are there?
Should i get springs or coilovers?
What setup can be used for drifting and why
How to remove spring bucket
How to install adjustable toe arms
Torque specs
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Great video. I have the same problem with my coilovers. Do I need to buy both "Adjustable toe arms and adjustable camber arms?" How about for the front? After lowering the G35, all 4 tires were getting chewed from the inner.
Thank you! Yes, you’re gonna need both the front and rear camber and toe arms.. i haven’t had any issues running the stock front arms with the upgraded rear setup, and i’m lowered to within millimeters of bottoming on speed bumps.. The stock wheels should work as long as the camber is corrected
@@milsgarage Awesome. I thank you for replying back 🙏🏽
congrats on the tire rack deal.. you deliver to Jersey lol
Thank you! We aren’t shipping, but we can get tires for cheaper and pass savings on to you
@@milsgarage pass how?
Well if you're in a really far location in NJ, it might not save much, but we can purchase some tires for lower than the prices shown on TireRack for you, so that savings :)
@@milsgarage dam kid. That was 5 months ago lol
I just replaced my G’s rear subframe, and found out all I needed was (new bushings all around ofc) a rear cross member W brace, and rear cross member support brace! I would’ve saved A FORTUNE if I knew that. But instead I was told by numerous repair shops that the subframe was junk when it was the most MINT thing about the car. Don’t do what I did!!! I see a lot of people worried about rusty subframes but its the braces that cover them that are actually rusty, a lot cheaper to replace to if you dont go to the dealership, I recommend Z1 for the W brace, then ebay or partsbeast for the support brace! Hope this helped anyone!
@Miguel Macias Yeah? That sucks, but i'm really glad you're here giving advice on the subject. i'm in the final stages of getting rid of a rotational rattle in the rear.. Thinking it's either the differential going bad, a bearing or two, and/or some sort of bushings.. Maybe the dif bushing.. What were you fixing that made you think it was the subframe at first?
Diff brace and diff bushing are the most underrated mods you can do to the VQ g and z chassis. 90% of owners don’t know this. I yet to install my whiteline bushing and bell house diff brace one day lol. I’m at 55k and she’s hanging in there. Usually they go out at 60-80k
Mils Garage Sorry for the late reply! I heard a lot of squeaking in the cabin, then decided to check it out, brought it to a mechanic w an actual hydraulic lift, and was then told it was the whole subframe (even tho it wasnt). The diff bushing can definitely be main factor of the noise because of all the play, but if you have replaced it then I’d assume the support braces for the subframe need replacement. Mine were so rotted out I could rip it out! Same w my front😳 but thats for another time LMAO.
Mils Garage How’s you rear suspension/control arm knuckle looking? Bushing on those go bad as quick as the front ones do, another thing I’m procrastinating hahahaa
@@miguelmacias2115 I’m having the same squeaking problem right now in the front I’m abt to get me some camber arms
You have to load the suspension on its weight before tightening all the bolts or else you'll stress the bushings.
Should of got the billet version
These arms were about $400 total for the camber and toe arms + eccentric bolt elimination kits.. Those billet arms are $420 for two, and come with racing bushings. That’s a little much for me right now, but yeah, they’re really nice 👍
I meant to buy those ones u got and went to z1 to pick them up. Funny thing is they accidentally gave me the billet ones. They are overpriced but they give u anything u want
whats a way to correct the toe with lowering spring kit? i have the street basis z for the camber correction I got camber arms with the camber lockout washer, but for the toe what would you recommend? The drill out/lockout washer bolt kit for toe + or - 2 degrees? thank you
With the springs? i believe it's the same drilling out and larger bolt kit for the corrections. i haven't compared the bolt kits, but i really think they're the same larger bolts for the camber and toe
@@milsgarage perfect got a set of those with the camber arms i'll print out the pdf for the drill out of the toe bolts to get the extra + - 2 degrees toe. Appreciate the respond brother subbed liked
Awesome! Any time Nouri, i really appreciate your support bro 🤘🤘🤘
Love the G35 playlist great idea 👍👍 What type of coilovers are those? I want to put in a set and do the rear toe arms but worried I won’t be able to without a lift..
They are BC Racing BR Series. That may be true depending on what clearance you have. If you're in the Delaware area, we have a shop where we can do it for you
Jdm cereal bowl for the shop now. Must bring your own milk.
@Andrew Vernon 🤔 i'm a lil lost, but i like what i'm hearing 🚗🥣🥛.. Yes, go on..
Awesome video ! What have you done for the front end as far as camber correction ?
Thank you! i actually haven't done anything to the front yet. The alignment guy said it's off, but not off enough to make a difference. i haven't had any signs of uneven wear so far, but Z1 has the upper ones too
That looks like weight reduction
Yeah, rust is a pretty good weight reduction 💪
So after installing the rear toe arms you need a alignment?
Yes 👍
Thanks for showing cars with some rust, so many youtube channels have all these super clean cars they work on. Glad there is someone else out there feeling the pain of working on cars in the rust belt.
For realreal! i kinda got suckered into this much rust, but i got the car for a decently low price, and i plan on removing a lot of it this season. Oh no, you know our pains? lol Gotta chisel the nuts and bolts back into hexes all the time.. Turn them into liquid with the oxy acetylene.. Super fun lol
Mils Garage, would make for a great couple of episodes showing how to get rid of it and to deal with broken and seized bolts. The best way to turn a 20min job into a 2 day job. Countless times has that happened
is the eccentric lockout kit require for the camber toe to work?
It'll work without them, but you want less variables than more, and you're going to wish you bought them if you didn't
@@milsgarage Coz I just installed my rear toe camber and theres some play on the rear wheels on high speeds, And Idea whats causing this?
@@mozartembing6540 check wheel bearings, tie rods
Do you not have springs in the rear? How is it possible to run the car like that?
i already have true rear coilovers, which combines the strut and the spring as one unit. It's the best setup to lower and/or race the car. i personally would not put my money in a coilover set that has the separate springs, because it is not going to perform well on a track, and would end up needing an alignment any time i slide around... which happens :) 🚗💭➰➰➰
Starting to wish I had done more research on this before I bought kwv3 for my G35. I only lowered the car like and inch maybe 2 max and I'm hundreds of dollars deep into alignments. The shops cant get the camber out of the rear. I have camber and toe arms and still the best they can get it is -4°. I'm not one of the camber gang boys and I'm stuck in a spot now where I'm gonna have to buy a new set of rear coilovers if I want any chance of getting it back to factor specs. Thanks you for the video and quick reply.
@@milsgarage my options are crazy camber or toe... no good choices
@Michael W HOLY O_O Wow, and they're separate? Wow.. Sorry to hear. i can tell you i'm running Stance XR1s and they're really nice.. Much lower in price than the kwv3s, but they feel great
@@milsgarage yea sadly they're separate.
Question I’m about to buy these camber arms and toe arms and I’m confused on the part when you said you need to drill a hole if u use aftermarket toe bolts, then afterwards you put the eccentric bolt on? Is an aftermarket toe bolt different than the offset eccentric bolt? And did u reuse the bolts for the opposite side
Eccentric bolt eliminators remove the need for camber bolts
@@milsgarage ahh ok then thx ima go thru wit my purchase wit these camber nd toe arms plus eccentric bolts👍🏻
@@claveecl1564 Awesome 🤘🤘🤘 Keep up the great work
You fixed it get job , i’m paying $175 for an alinement
Great video man like always. I wish I had did this to my G35 coupe when I had it. I think I saw it in everyone of your videos but that lift comes in handy lol.
Thanks Giovanni! When you had it? You still have your G, right?? i'm pretty sure these same arms work on the Sedans, no?
@@milsgarage oh yeah I still got my G I was just curious because my G is a AWD Idk if it's different. That brings me to a question that I wanted to ask. My CV axle is making noises now and was curious if you think a 370z axle would work on my G only because it's it's AWD.
i was fixated on the rusty-boys this whole video lol, anyways great vid
LOL 😂 Yeaaaaah, the previous owner may have parked it in a lake 😅. i'm gonna be getting rid of lots of the rust this season.. It's so cringy lol Thank you for your support!!
@@milsgarage i'll be looking forward to those videos, I, myself have a lot of rust also under my car. Keep it up man
@qreq eweqwee Awesome! Well, not the rust lol.. Lots more coming up!
question so if i go with a lower springs setup , do i just need the tow bolt and everything would be good ? or do i need a whole new camber kit?
You’d need larger toe bolts and camber bolts to run springs 👍
@@milsgarage ahh thank you for the answer🤞🏾
@@kidnash4668 Any time for sure 🤘🤘🤘
Damn good video
Awesome!! You make me feel accomplished. Thank you!
Nice install vid man when I see under cars the amount of surface rust 😢 salt on roads is evil
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Hey my brother what coilovers do you have ? I have a 04 g coupe I heard said BR series but it looks like you got stance coilovers. Does stance make these br series coilovers or is that something else? Thanks brother
Sorry for the delay! Your comment got caught in the spam box for some reason. i'm currently riding on BC Racing BR Series.. The ones i have say "Stance Coilovers".. And now i'm confused too lol. i never saw the stance ones on the website, so i just assumed they're the BR Series, as they have the same design.. Are they different?
What he is saying is stance is “true type” coilovers where as bc is more of an oem coilovers. Stance is a very expensive brand and bc or tein is a middle of the road but very awesome option too while keeping oem ride quality
Refer to this
g35driver.com/forums/brakes-suspension/234126-coilovers-vs-true-coilovers.html
www.z1motorsports.com/suspension/stance/stance-xr1-350z-g35-coilovers-p-10611.html
@TLE0622 IPL O_O Sooo you're saying i have more expensive coilovers than i thought i had? And now i know how to get parts to rebuild them. Thank you for the input Tyler!!
Mils Garage yessir 👌🏻
do you know the size of the nut and the arm wrenches ? like the part where you adjust. mine came loose need to tighten it before it gets out of spec
i’m not sure. i ended up using 2x adjustable spanners, cause our wrench sets only go up to 19mm.. so definitely larger than 19mm
So I’m confused? Do I need to have coilovers as well or no? I’ve seen other videos just deleting the spring bucket with the adjustable.
If you remove the bucket, what’s your plan for implementing springs in the rear?
Hey I notice you have the "street" version of toe and camber arms I was wondering how the bushings have held up? Would you recommend going with the "race" version instead?
The bushings will likely last the rest of the life of the arms. The race versions will be very harsh with vibrations. i wouldn't recommend race lvl unless they're going on your dedicated track car
Where do you live , all that rust , dude
lol i bought the car from a dude in Connecticut.. i'll be cleaning that up soon 😂
Is it still good to run the rear camber arms and toe arms only? I've only watched this video bro and getting into my first set of coilovers so I'm wondering if this will help get rid of problems with alignment and dont really wanna spend the money on the upper control arm yet and im not trynna do any crazy camber but sum slight
i'm still running just the rear.. i was just thinking about this a couple weeks ago actually.. i'm going to be putting money into the G soon, and showing it on the channel, and i won't buy the front yet lol. You'll be fine. My tires don't show any uneven wear 👍
@@milsgarage did you get rid of the bucket or no?
@@milsgarage I want to get rid of the bucket and not sure if this is that part for that or if it’s a different one
You got me watching my own video again lol..Did you make it to minute 3 yet?
If you know anyone looking to purchase bucket toe arms, hmu 👍👍👍
Hi Mils what’s the size of the wrench and socket you need to tighten? You forgot that in the video. Love the channel and subbed. Can’t wait to see what’s next for this g35. Where’s the other one at?
14 or 16mm.. i can't recall. Thank you so much for your support Joe! i'm fixing a bunch of stuff on this G this season.. And i'll be touching on the other G in the next video, and then showing it sometime soon too 👍
Okay so, I've hit a major hurdle that maybe you could explain. I've pretty much followed you up until this point, I've got Z1 Motorsports adjustable upper control arms, toe arms, camber arms, and since the Toe arms delete the bucket for the spring in the rear, my BC Racing Coilovers for the rear are independent of eachother. Meaning these are meant to go on the stock suspension. Spring is separate from the shock. Where did you get a coilover that has the spring built or assembled inside of the shock? The BC Racing Coilovers package I got does not allow me to add the spring to the rear like the front comes with. I've got a cup for the spring and spring is supposed to fit into that bucket. Does BC Racing make a locking ring for the rear coilovers so I can attach the spring over the shock? I'm pretty bummed right now cause I had planned on doing this over the weekend and Ive finally got all the parts I need. I have the BR Series coilovers. I can't believe I didn't notice this but I didn't see this in your video about the coilovers
So i never purchased the coilovers, as i bought the car with them on it.. For the longest time i thought i was driving on BC Racing BR Series, and i had no reason to check.. It turns out i have Stance XR1 coilovers, which are currently priced ~$500 more than BC BR coilovers. You can check them out at stance-usa.com/ . You will need coilovers which remove the bucket setup in order to use those toe arms.
Link for G35 Stance coilover selection: stance-usa.com/product-category/make/infiniti/
A good less expensive route is to go with a brand like Tein. They ride nice and are cost-effective. If you have the ability to go with the XR1's, i would absolutely recommend them
@@milsgarage
I've emailed BC Racing. It appears all I would need are different springs and maybe locking rings. The springs it come with are too wide and slip right over everything. FML, I should've caught this. Maybe I can find a set of rear only somewhere
@Michael Enochs 😮 They're saying you can change the BR Series strut tower so it has the spring on it?? 🤯 Wow. i'm very interested in hearing about that, cause i have 2 customers already rocking the BR Series, and i'll absolutely recommend the solution to them
@@milsgarage
Whoa whoa whoa, no. I emailed BC Racing for their options for my case. What I'm saying is, the set of coilovers I have has a fat spring for the rear that sits in the OEM bucket. I thought it might work on the rear coilover but the bottom part of the spring is so wide that it slips right over the locking rings. There wouldn't be any way to mount the spring to the coilover. The only way I could make these work is if perhaps I got new springs that were thinner and then the locking rings could hold the new spring in place. I don't see why it wouldn't work, it would be ni different that the coilovers in the front. I am not experienced in suspension but I don't understand why what I'm saying couldn't work. Do you have an email? I could send you picture memes of what I'm talking about if you can't understand. Otherwise I can report back with what BC Racing recommends cause right now the spring is meant for that old OEM bucket and too large for the coilover. It's just a shock at this point and not a strut/coilover which is what I need.
What are the pros and cons of both the oem style coilovers, and the true rear style?
Wait, you asked me what i tell people in this video? lol
Love it man nice both videos were very awesome the camber and toe adjustable tutorials is what I need it thanks again for both now I can do it my self and don't forget to leave a link for the camber video
Toe arms available here 👉 [ www.z1motorsports.com/z1-products/z1-motorsports/z1-motorsports-350z-g35-adjustable-rear-toe-arms-p-12181.html ].. Wish we could get commission or something, but Z1 thinks we're way cooler than they are. 🤷♂️
Very cool shop
Thank you! i really appreciate your support 🤘🤘🤘
when i went to get aligned they said the sai is off
Yeah? So will you be picking up some arms?
@@milsgarage not sure what i need.. he thought maybe frame damage. but looking underneath car. it has rust like just like yours and i believe my tierods in and out are the corporate
Weight reduction too awesome video
Most definitely! i guess i shoulda weighed them but i didn't have a scale.. Woohoo! Thank you for your support Manuel!!
Are the camber and toe lockout kits the same length? I see it looks like your toe ones stick out a little bit past the nut. I just installed mine and they are only about half way in the nut. I called Z1 and they said that was correct.
Lockout kit? The offset bolt elimination kit? Halfway out?
Yes the elimination kit.
The nut is only threaded on halfway through the nut.
Are they torqued to spec?
@@milsgarage Yes
@@JDean9722 Well.. Then they're good i guess. i imagine they're right if Z1 said so.. i bet they'd take a look at an image if you sent it to them. i can take a look at it if you send an image to @milsgarage on instagram