It’s kinda nice to see the Knott’s Berry Farm amusement park change over time in this video, I’ve seen a few of Knott’s lands change in a few ways, like how the ride Knott’s Beary Tales: Return to the Fair was a retrofit for the ocean themed ride, and seeing the new pizza place just across the street from the ride, and seeing the fiesta village change too.
I love Montezooma's Revenge! I grew up going to Knotts since my family could afford it more than Disneyland since we didn't have much money, so I have alot of memories of going and running around ending the day with a funnel cake or a trip to the chicken restaurant
@@MsDisneylandlover I haven't been to Disneyland during Halloween, but it's on my bucket list. I have been for Christmas when I was little and I loved it
I’ve always liked Knotts over Disneyland since I was a kid. I’ve said to a couple of my friends that Knotts could expand over to the east parking lot and it wouldn’t be hard, costly probably. They could take down a couple storage buildings that are south of Ghostrider, build a wide “bridge” that would go over Grand Ave, the preferred lot, Beach Blvd, and drop back down into where Soak City would be demolish for a park extension. If the bridge is wide enough, they could build shops or whatever on top of it to make guest transition over to the new “land” nice and it could model after the Independence Hall theme. Knotts wouldn’t lose the preferred parking lot and the only oddity would be how guest traverse from both sides of the park. But if designed well, this would work and give Knotts ample opportunity for future expansion and then turn part or some of their lots into parking structures to gain back parking spaces lost. This would be something similar to what Disneyland is doing for Disney Forward, but a little bigger.
There were plans to do something like this in the '90's, designed by the head of Knott's design department, Robin Hall. But the company struggled to get financing for it and other projects of the era. With Cedar Fair (now Six Flags) in charge, it seems that kind of investment would be more likely, but I don't see them getting rid of the water park. Many of the parks in the chain have an adjacent water park, and they tend to be surprisingly profitable.
That’s actually going to be two videos for our series, since there’s actually a good bit of changes to cover. That, and for “story” reasons, it felt more interesting to talk about it in terms of the Farm during the Kinzel era and Ouimet/Zimmerman era.
Thanks for doing these videos. I grew up with Knotts Berry farm. They bring back so many memories! I use to work at Knotts from 87-94. I watched most of the transformations you showed in this video happen in person. I wish I could get on the Sky jump again and the XK1. I use to operate the old rides in Fiesta village. Wow so many memories! Keep these videos coming
That’s so cool! It was definitely an interesting time for the Farm. That means you also got to see Mystery Lodge in its prime! I’m still hoping they’ll bring it back, though it’s hard to say what’ll happen. Sky Jump looks like such a fun ride. A lawyer’s nightmare, so I understand why they got rid of it. But I am a bit disappointed I’ll never get to ride it.
@@ThemeParchive, I took my kids back to Knott’s a few years back and was absolutely disgusted that they took out the Mystery Lodge. Sky jump was knarly. I remember crouching down and holding on to one of the bars on the cage as a kid. It was terrifying, and loved it. They could easily put a new mystery lodge in the park and completely redo the gold panning area. They stuck it back in the same area, but it needs to look and feel like it used to.
Thanks for covering the history of the Bear-y Tales ride! You'd be surprised at how much of the Bear-y Tales ride is still around. That and I have the Pteradon that sat atop the Gazebo building.
Thank you for keeping the ride's memory alive. Your videos made giving the ride the time it deserved much easier in this format. I'm definitely jealous of that Pteradon. What a cool piece of theme park history to own.
I love how Knott's hired former Disney Imagineers/legends Rolly Crump, Eddie Sotto and Bob Gurr to design some of their most themed rides (Crump - Bear-y Tales, Sotto - Soap Box Racers, and Gurr - KOD after Bud Hurlbut had retired.
The crossover of talent between Disney and Knott's, especially people who lived and worked in the Orange County area, is pretty significant. I think some locals like to imagine a rivalry between Knott's and "the park up the road", but behind the scenes, there's a ton of mutual respect. Check out artist Sam Carter. He does work for both companies, and his Knott's stuff in particular is very good.
Thank you for another great video! It is great to hear about the transformation of this park. I do wish that the Airfield theming was preserved while making park improvements. The Boardwalk just seems more like any other Cedar Fair or Six Flags Park. Perhaps we can get a new version of the Wacky Soap Box Racers.
With all respect to Robin Hall and the design team that worked on it, I agree. Boardwalk just didn’t feel like it fit with the rest of the park. Its connection to California history feels tenuous at best. I do think it’s improved since it first opened, with Xcelerator and HangTime giving the 50’s-60’s SoCal cars and surfing themes. If they came through with an update like they just did to Fiesta Village and really leaned into that midcentury Southern California teen culture vibe, it could fix a lot of the issues I have with the area. But it is a shame how little of the Airfield stuff has survived. And given what they’ve done with bringing back Beary Tales (spoilers for the final episode of the series), it’s entirely possible we’ll see a new, better version of WSBR in the future. 🤞
@@ThemeParchive As you had previously pointed out - not all attractions were as well received as others. Walter Knott had his arena and Marion had her Gypsy Camp. (Walt Disney had his circus) So sometimes attractions do fail to take root. Theme Parks are not a perfect science. But this park has some great sightlines.
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It’s kinda nice to see the Knott’s Berry Farm amusement park change over time in this video, I’ve seen a few of Knott’s lands change in a few ways, like how the ride Knott’s Beary Tales: Return to the Fair was a retrofit for the ocean themed ride, and seeing the new pizza place just across the street from the ride, and seeing the fiesta village change too.
I love Montezooma's Revenge! I grew up going to Knotts since my family could afford it more than Disneyland since we didn't have much money, so I have alot of memories of going and running around ending the day with a funnel cake or a trip to the chicken restaurant
Same here, my kid love Knott’s, and I’m sure they will eventually take their children in the future.
I am Disneyland person ❤
Lol😊 but it expensive n I can only go march for my vacation birthday and oct bc I just like time of yr
@@MsDisneylandlover I haven't been to Disneyland during Halloween, but it's on my bucket list. I have been for Christmas when I was little and I loved it
I’ve always liked Knotts over Disneyland since I was a kid. I’ve said to a couple of my friends that Knotts could expand over to the east parking lot and it wouldn’t be hard, costly probably. They could take down a couple storage buildings that are south of Ghostrider, build a wide “bridge” that would go over Grand Ave, the preferred lot, Beach Blvd, and drop back down into where Soak City would be demolish for a park extension. If the bridge is wide enough, they could build shops or whatever on top of it to make guest transition over to the new “land” nice and it could model after the Independence Hall theme.
Knotts wouldn’t lose the preferred parking lot and the only oddity would be how guest traverse from both sides of the park. But if designed well, this would work and give Knotts ample opportunity for future expansion and then turn part or some of their lots into parking structures to gain back parking spaces lost. This would be something similar to what Disneyland is doing for Disney Forward, but a little bigger.
There were plans to do something like this in the '90's, designed by the head of Knott's design department, Robin Hall. But the company struggled to get financing for it and other projects of the era. With Cedar Fair (now Six Flags) in charge, it seems that kind of investment would be more likely, but I don't see them getting rid of the water park. Many of the parks in the chain have an adjacent water park, and they tend to be surprisingly profitable.
Planning to do one on the cedar fair years (1997 - present)
That’s actually going to be two videos for our series, since there’s actually a good bit of changes to cover. That, and for “story” reasons, it felt more interesting to talk about it in terms of the Farm during the Kinzel era and Ouimet/Zimmerman era.
Thanks for doing these videos. I grew up with Knotts Berry farm. They bring back so many memories! I use to work at Knotts from 87-94. I watched most of the transformations you showed in this video happen in person. I wish I could get on the Sky jump again and the XK1. I use to operate the old rides in Fiesta village. Wow so many memories! Keep these videos coming
That’s so cool! It was definitely an interesting time for the Farm. That means you also got to see Mystery Lodge in its prime! I’m still hoping they’ll bring it back, though it’s hard to say what’ll happen.
Sky Jump looks like such a fun ride. A lawyer’s nightmare, so I understand why they got rid of it. But I am a bit disappointed I’ll never get to ride it.
@@ThemeParchive, I took my kids back to Knott’s a few years back and was absolutely disgusted that they took out the Mystery Lodge. Sky jump was knarly. I remember crouching down and holding on to one of the bars on the cage as a kid. It was terrifying, and loved it. They could easily put a new mystery lodge in the park and completely redo the gold panning area. They stuck it back in the same area, but it needs to look and feel like it used to.
All your Knott's videos have been brilliantly researched and produced. Thanks
Glad this one kept up the quality. This particular time period was hard because for some reason there’s just not as much documentation.
Thanks for covering the history of the Bear-y Tales ride!
You'd be surprised at how much of the Bear-y Tales ride is still around. That and I have the Pteradon that sat atop the Gazebo building.
Thank you for keeping the ride's memory alive. Your videos made giving the ride the time it deserved much easier in this format.
I'm definitely jealous of that Pteradon. What a cool piece of theme park history to own.
Loved this. I grew up with the park almost in my back yard.
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Thanks!
I love how Knott's hired former Disney Imagineers/legends Rolly Crump, Eddie Sotto and Bob Gurr to design some of their most themed rides (Crump - Bear-y Tales, Sotto - Soap Box Racers, and Gurr - KOD after Bud Hurlbut had retired.
The crossover of talent between Disney and Knott's, especially people who lived and worked in the Orange County area, is pretty significant. I think some locals like to imagine a rivalry between Knott's and "the park up the road", but behind the scenes, there's a ton of mutual respect. Check out artist Sam Carter. He does work for both companies, and his Knott's stuff in particular is very good.
I was so excited to get the notification for this video. As usual it is awesome with such good content! Please keep them coming!!!
Thank you for another great video! It is great to hear about the transformation of this park. I do wish that the Airfield theming was preserved while making park improvements. The Boardwalk just seems more like any other Cedar Fair or Six Flags Park. Perhaps we can get a new version of the Wacky Soap Box Racers.
With all respect to Robin Hall and the design team that worked on it, I agree. Boardwalk just didn’t feel like it fit with the rest of the park. Its connection to California history feels tenuous at best. I do think it’s improved since it first opened, with Xcelerator and HangTime giving the 50’s-60’s SoCal cars and surfing themes. If they came through with an update like they just did to Fiesta Village and really leaned into that midcentury Southern California teen culture vibe, it could fix a lot of the issues I have with the area. But it is a shame how little of the Airfield stuff has survived.
And given what they’ve done with bringing back Beary Tales (spoilers for the final episode of the series), it’s entirely possible we’ll see a new, better version of WSBR in the future. 🤞
@@ThemeParchive As you had previously pointed out - not all attractions were as well received as others. Walter Knott had his arena and Marion had her Gypsy Camp. (Walt Disney had his circus) So sometimes attractions do fail to take root.
Theme Parks are not a perfect science. But this park has some great sightlines.
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My head hurts when I think about Windjammer. Yuck.
I use to so afraid of that boomerang ride. I dont do roller coaster lol
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Rip walt ❤
They need to bring back myself longue.
Rip rolly
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Wish they bring back Dinosaurs ride
I remember those headz lol noticez my z lol
Now i got beary tales puns. But i dont get the roller coaster.
As kid i was afraid of Dinosaurs ride lol