Robby beats Miguel in S6 Part 2, he mid diffed Kwon, then beat Kwon and Yoon in a 2v1. In Kwon and Miguel's fight Kwon landed a point on Miguel with relative ease, and Yoon alone was able to put up a fight against Miguel. Robby also has a better performance against Axel, actually staying on his feet rather than getting knocked down in seconds.
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so much wrong here. Firstly He mid diffed a mentally nerfed Kwon overrun and overtaken by his Anger. Kwon and Miguel's fight was high diff win from Kwon and even then it was a single point. But let me get in depth, Kwon scored the point due to strats and not stats. It takes more time for Miguel to jump back up, regain his stance to attack as opposed to Kwon simply staying on the ground waiting for miguel to make a mistake. So no there isnt a stat difference and you literally cant prove robby>kwon do next. Miguel literally 4v1ing Kwon, Yoon, and 2 other cobra kais and is still untouched. Also Axel is rage amped in the Miguel fight and not Robby's so no Robby did not do better.
@@hystor1c No such thing as a rage 'amp' for one. If you've actually trained martial arts, you know that anger just makes you fight worse. Robby repeatedly gave up chances to score points on Kwon to draw the fight out, then beat him and Yoon at the same time, Robby is very clearly leagues ahead of Kwon, it's all in the filmmaking. Kwon is always giving in to his anger, that's the whole point of his character, he exists to be a criticism of that style. Miguel's point loss to Kwon doesn't necessarily put Miguel below Kwon, but in his fight with Robby Kwon wouldn't have been able to dream of fighting evenly with him. Robby's performance against Axel is very clearly the best, from a filmmaker and martial artist perspective. The cinematography and editing actually conveys Robby fighting Axel whereas in the Miguel fight, it sidelines him from a high angle and completely ignores him, signifying the lack of threat he poses to Axel. It's clear in the way it's shot, if you've studied film or created films you know how important these slight details such as Axel being centrally framed against Miguel, or Robby and Axel occupying equal space in frame, are. 'Strats' are a part of skill and power. You can't downplay Kwon scoring a point on Miguel because Kwon used a better strategy, that just straight up means he fought better. That's the exact reason fight IQ is so important in martial arts, a 140ibs black belt can beat a 180ibs black belt if they're the smarter fighter. Kwon's 'strats' point win over Miguel is just a credit to Kwon, not something that can be used to detriment him and say Miguel is the better fighter Kwon just used a better strategy, because using good strategies is one of the most important aspects of fighting. I never once mentioned anything about a 'stat' difference, that was never part of my argument, my argument was 'Kwon landed a point on Miguel, therefore he should at least be relative to Miguel'. Since Robby is able to beat Kwon easily, Robby is above Miguel. There's no argument to be made that Kwon was superior in his fight with Miguel to his fight with Robby, since Kwon fights with his anger the whole time. At the start of his fight with Robby, Kwon was acting the exact same way as in the Miguel fight. The difference is Robby was actually looking likely to best Kwon, which angered him, whereas Kwon was never worried about Miguel beating him and as such didn't lose his cool. Even if you disregard the entire second half of the Robby vs Kwon fight when Kwon lost his cool, Miguel still performed much worse than Robby in those opening moments.
Judges: Pokery and Null
Verdict: Brendan Low-Mid Diff
Robby beats Miguel in S6 Part 2, he mid diffed Kwon, then beat Kwon and Yoon in a 2v1. In Kwon and Miguel's fight Kwon landed a point on Miguel with relative ease, and Yoon alone was able to put up a fight against Miguel. Robby also has a better performance against Axel, actually staying on his feet rather than getting knocked down in seconds.
ur free to join the server and beat someone in a debate on this topic. ur personal opinion doesnt matter as to who won the debate its based on who argues better
so much wrong here. Firstly He mid diffed a mentally nerfed Kwon overrun and overtaken by his Anger. Kwon and Miguel's fight was high diff win from Kwon and even then it was a single point. But let me get in depth, Kwon scored the point due to strats and not stats. It takes more time for Miguel to jump back up, regain his stance to attack as opposed to Kwon simply staying on the ground waiting for miguel to make a mistake. So no there isnt a stat difference and you literally cant prove robby>kwon do next. Miguel literally 4v1ing Kwon, Yoon, and 2 other cobra kais and is still untouched. Also Axel is rage amped in the Miguel fight and not Robby's so no Robby did not do better.
@@hystor1c No such thing as a rage 'amp' for one. If you've actually trained martial arts, you know that anger just makes you fight worse. Robby repeatedly gave up chances to score points on Kwon to draw the fight out, then beat him and Yoon at the same time, Robby is very clearly leagues ahead of Kwon, it's all in the filmmaking. Kwon is always giving in to his anger, that's the whole point of his character, he exists to be a criticism of that style. Miguel's point loss to Kwon doesn't necessarily put Miguel below Kwon, but in his fight with Robby Kwon wouldn't have been able to dream of fighting evenly with him. Robby's performance against Axel is very clearly the best, from a filmmaker and martial artist perspective. The cinematography and editing actually conveys Robby fighting Axel whereas in the Miguel fight, it sidelines him from a high angle and completely ignores him, signifying the lack of threat he poses to Axel. It's clear in the way it's shot, if you've studied film or created films you know how important these slight details such as Axel being centrally framed against Miguel, or Robby and Axel occupying equal space in frame, are. 'Strats' are a part of skill and power. You can't downplay Kwon scoring a point on Miguel because Kwon used a better strategy, that just straight up means he fought better. That's the exact reason fight IQ is so important in martial arts, a 140ibs black belt can beat a 180ibs black belt if they're the smarter fighter. Kwon's 'strats' point win over Miguel is just a credit to Kwon, not something that can be used to detriment him and say Miguel is the better fighter Kwon just used a better strategy, because using good strategies is one of the most important aspects of fighting. I never once mentioned anything about a 'stat' difference, that was never part of my argument, my argument was 'Kwon landed a point on Miguel, therefore he should at least be relative to Miguel'. Since Robby is able to beat Kwon easily, Robby is above Miguel. There's no argument to be made that Kwon was superior in his fight with Miguel to his fight with Robby, since Kwon fights with his anger the whole time. At the start of his fight with Robby, Kwon was acting the exact same way as in the Miguel fight. The difference is Robby was actually looking likely to best Kwon, which angered him, whereas Kwon was never worried about Miguel beating him and as such didn't lose his cool. Even if you disregard the entire second half of the Robby vs Kwon fight when Kwon lost his cool, Miguel still performed much worse than Robby in those opening moments.
@@butterhostdebates I wasn't commenting on who won the debate, I was simply stating that Robby > Miguel
Its a tv show ofc there is amps by plot like are you slow?@Tstardoughnuts2-97
I agree that Miguel wins this season tbh