I am Japanese. It seems that some people are making a fuss about the lack of black people in SHOGUN. Several years before this era, there was a black samurai named Yasuke who served under Nobunaga. However, he was released from his samurai status at the same time as Nobunaga's assassination. Before him, there was no other black person in Japan. Also, in the era of this drama, only Europeans, let alone Americans, came to Japan. Also,There were no black aristocrats in Europe at that time.
@@takuh6830 Hollywood mentality is woke overridden & the success of Shogun, a follow-up TV Series on Yasuke, the Black Samurai, is sure to be in discussion stages now. Ridiculously predictable. Expect lots of artistic licence like troops of ashigaru dark enough to pass for black led by Yasuke
The time sequence should have been stretched by showing that certain (longer) times have lapsed. Certainly the "visit in the night" was jarring and needed some lead-in. Come on, Blackthorne did not even give a hint of romantic interest in her, to her and at all times, was entirely prim, proper and respectable to her. And Buntaro (and the father of her child) just died (in Mariko's mind). That could have been handled better. Say, like a short scene showing the progress of the current winter. Certainly it was not a spur of the moment consideration in the Clavell's book.
@@raynerstuelgalidHe was definitely interested in her lol. First of all, she’s drop dead gorgeous and the only one who can communicate with him. Ppl know when there’s romantic attraction between them plus like you mentioned- the fact that he was respectful towards her is proof enough that he likes her because he treats everyone else much poorly and roughly.
What an episode! The introduction of a new (to Blackthorne) philosophy and life coping mechanism through Mariko, was perfect. You can feel chemistry brewing between Blackthorne and Mariko as she slowly immerses him in Japanese ways of thinking and doing (admonishing him for walking on the garden moss, for one). Substituting naval cannons for muskets in the final scene --brilliant! I gasped and then cheered.I was that invested in the story and characters. And that was a go big or go home moment and boy did it work.
It's interesting and symbolically instructive that the first really intimate, personal conversation between Blackthorne and Mariko, is conducted back-to-back, with no eye contact.
The actress who plays Mariko is crushing it. She’s amazing, and the woman who plays Fuji has the most expressive eyes I have ever seen! Her facial expressions talk for her. This show is 🔥. And I give serious credit for the authenticity of this show, the costumes and everything about it! Mannerisms and rules are mastered. There is an absolute realness to this show that I’ve never witnessed before. I feel like I’m really there when I watch
1 Koku (一刻) is Japanese unit of volume. Approximately Equivalent to 180 litres, or about 150 kg of rice. So his yearly salary is 240 Koku 36 tons of rice. Rice can then be traded into other goods such as livestock or coin. Simular to salt for the romans, or grain and gold for Egypt. Thats alot of rice!
@@kevinprince9527 good rice is 5-10rmb/lbs in china right now for ref. which is basically 1 dollar. cheap 2-3rmb. so considering japan and antiquity, you are looking at 2 dollars/kg so 2k/ton, so his salary is 72k, so middle class slightly upper in modern day USA. not bad for a foreigner but not so good for her queen's elite navigator, nor a supposed little landlord or king's favor.
Best show on TV. The costumes, dialogue, character building, attention to detail, weaving of theme, etc all top tier. This is the only show that look forward to seeing every week.
The writing of Mariko along with Anna Sawai's acting is just so powerful that it tears me apart. If I didn't know the history behind the series I could still see the writing on the wall that Mariko's ending is NOT going to be a happy one. Her obsession with death is pretty clear that she's gonna eventually get what she wants. But I can't help but feel so desperately that I want her to have that moment of the other side of life...the joy & beauty of it. She only gets these painfully short glimpses of it. Time with her son before her husband comes in calling him less than a man. The evening with Blackthorne and maybe for the first time in her life experiencing true love, of which was her own choosing, before having it ripped away from her. So I just want her to have a moment where she is able to gain her own agency and have a moment of enjoying the life she could've enjoyed before fulfilling the destiny she's been obsessed about. Just one moment of "life isn't only cruelty and duty but can also be beautiful and worth living". I realize for women of this period that is neigh impossible. They were property and objects to the men that held all the power. And Mariko is sure to realize her lot in life was better than most. But still, she deserves that one moment. Because I can't help but feel that MANY Japanese women STILL feel like her to this day. Yes, the modern Japanese woman have a LOT more freedoms to choose the life they want. But it's still very much a subservient culture. In school you MUST dress a certain way. You MUST wear your hair a certain way and it MUST be black or dark, dark brown. At work you MUST be polite and can't really stand up for yourself. In society you HAVE to act a certain way. And even if you do try to show your originality by dying your hair pink or dressing in other cultural styles or by getting tattoos you are looked down upon...even banned from bath houses and stuff. While I'm not certain of it, I imagine being Bi or Lesbian is also not that accepted either. So I really hope that Mariko does have that moment and inspire hope among Japanese women that they too can be free to be who they want to be & will find happiness and joy that life can offer.
Book Spoiler alert I can't believe the episode didn't show the book chapter when Blackthorne almost commits Sepuku to save the village if he didn't learn japanese in 6 months (and order Toranaga gave), for that's the moment "Anjin" understands and embraces the japanese culture and way of life, gets the respect of the community, and shows the inneptitude of Yabbu and his counselors. For me that was a huge moment in the book, maybe the most important one. Besides that, WOW, what an episode, the acting and direction really makes the book come alive, and shows everything as I imagined it would be. Great job!
Absolutely agree. It was the turning point for Blackthorn, and also the turning point for Mariko in how she views him. I love the show so far, but was disappointed in that particular scene was not included. A very important part of the story.
The changes from the book still keeps the spirit of Clavell's intentions while at the same time streamlining things for the new viewer who never read the book or watched the original series.
I disagree. While I love the show, they have removed a LOT of very important elements to Blackthorns character growth. As well as parts of the story that will change the future of what is to come.
The book is thick. Tough decisions were made. The one I noticed most was the attempted seppuku. I noticed immediately but I cam see where they made that decision there. And they are doing one hour episodes where the 1980 series was two hours per. Thanks for the constructive criticism.
Yes, the book is thick. And even in the 80s version there were a lot of tough decisions to make. I get that, and expect it, however, I think leaving this scene out was a mistake. Running time for both series are roughly the same amount of time. I'm still enjoying the series, but curious to see how much more they are going to take liberties with.
Dutch Naval Cannon This muzzle-loaded Dutch cannon was cast sometime in the late sixteenth century. It could shoot a 33-millimeter cannonball between 300 and 500 meters and was fired by fuse. The cannon’s wheeled carriage allowed it to be moved easily around the deck of a warship or the battlements of a European castle. Imported European cannons were used in Japan longer than imported muskets. Japanese gunsmiths quickly learned to produce high-quality matchlock muskets, but they struggled to match the durability of heavy European cannon barrels. Unlike musket barrels, cannon barrels were typically forged as single pieces of metal. The first cannons in Japan were a pair of breech-loading swivel guns acquired from Portuguese traders in 1576. Dutch and English suppliers had supplanted the Portuguese by the early 1600s. They provided the cannons that the forces of the Tokugawa shogunate (1603-1868) used at the Siege of Osaka (1614-1615), the best-known artillery battle of the samurai age. Records provided by: 国土交通省 Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism
Watching Shōgun 2024 while rewatching Shōgun 1980. The original Toda Mariko, Shimada Yoko, died in 2022. For her memorable portrayal of Toda Mariko, she won a Golden Globe and was nominated for an Emmy. She probably would have been very happy watching Anna Sawai reprise her role. ruclips.net/user/shorts7tjGZuHAilM
1 Koku (一刻) is Japanese unit of volume. Approximately Equivalent to 180 litres, or about 150 kg of rice. So his yearly salary is 240 Koku 36 tons of rice. Rice can then be traded into other goods such as livestock or coin. Simular to salt for the romans, or grain and gold for Egypt.
I would like to know what was the dish served during the dinner scene where Blackthorne tries natto. I assume it was rice, pickled vegetables, and grilled mackerel. Please let me know if my guess was correct or if it was a different fish that was used.
I have a feeling this is gonna be one of the top 3 episodes of the season😅. I was honestly worried this series would be just 80% flashy hollywood style cgi filled combat with cheesy romance. Im so happy that its not. It still has good pacing. little bits of politics mixed in with some violence and barbarity. The armor and costumes look so f**ing good too. You can tell they hired a solid costume designer. The only criticism i have is that they use some weird fisheye effect with the cameras. Its a bit distracting but its a small thing and you get used to it.
No I don’t believe so. The “sequel“ called Gai-Jin isn’t the same characters and takes place like 200 years later. However, I did see that his daughter Michaela is a producer on the show and it would be up to her to approve any additional stories told after the book. It’s not clear that anyone involved wants to do that yet…but it’s not impossible. But it would be a whole brand new story never originally written by the author.
The time sequence should have been stretched by showing that certain (longer) times have lapsed. Certainly the "visit in the night" was jarring and needed some lead-in. Come on, Blackthorne did not even give a hint of romantic interest in her, to her and at all times, was entirely prim, proper and respectable to her. And Buntaro (and the father of her child) just died (in Mariko's mind). That could have been handled better. Say, like a short scene showing the progress of the current winter. Certainly it was not a spur of the moment consideration in the Clavell's book.
Yo who TF is Anjin?? Never seen this guy anywhere! But his skills must have been in SOMETHING big. I need to IMDB my life right now... !! Edit: omg yes, he was the PTSD soldier in Peaky Blinders!!
@kylelee6 Everyone is so talented in this series. And I already recognize the main players. But this Cosmo Jarvis is sensational. And I guess he's had a small part in Peaky Blinders. But I don't think it was a stand-out role. Wait, was he the crazy sniper??
Is Buntaro really dead? Obviously I won't say because I saw the first Shogun mini series and I read the novel by James Clavell. I don't want to spoil the series for people who are watching the show for the first time.
Why does FX not rerun a single episode of this show after it airs on TV? I missed the episode tonight and forgot to DVR it. That's on me, but I can't believe there are zero opportunities to rewatch it before episode 5 comes out next week. Frustrating.
mariko and john's night time conversation by the hot spring was like teenage YA novel angsty quality dialogue "lose your self walking along the river"......."and you're free" - oh please. I rolled my eyes hard. Mariko just saw her husband go off to die, her son is still in danger likely to be killed by Ishido, she read John's journal where he described the horrors he committed, she's allegedly a devout Christian........yet she decides to sleep with john? because he gave some generic hallmark quality "romantic" dialogue? not to mention if it was ever found out, she'd likely be in grave danger herself. it makes zero sense for someone who is supposed to be intelligent. it also makes her seem very cold hearted IMO, this was the weakest episode. The strength of the show is the council and tug of war with Toronaga and Ishido. I could see this Mariko-John coupling a mile away, and its easily the most boring part of the show.
Mariko Sama saw the need to sleep with Blackthorne to fix him to his prescribed task. Not for romantic reasons but because it forwarded her mission, given to her by Taranaga Sama. Blackthorne obviously preffered her to his given consort. And the reason for the consort again was to keep Blackthorne happy. Blackthorne is now happier and able to function better. And he will no longer talk of his ship and his crew. It's not silly romance it's a transaction that she has made, she believes that it is worth the risk, and she will obviously pull back if necessary. And oddly Blackthorne will still keep to the task, men are like that, or at least as she has judged this man is. As to the novel type dialogue that was for Blackthornes benefit, to set up the sexual liaison, seems you have underestimated Mariko Sama's character.
this is easily the weakest episode so far the cut and changed to much from the book this whole episode felt way to rushed. also cutting the village being held hostage plot wtf that plot like is far to important to cut. i hope it makes an apperance next episode. but honestly this episode has destroyed a lot of the good faith this show has built thus far.
you need to stop saying 'balance of western and Japanese '; it's an exercise in stereotype & deception to sell your story. You could say instead, 'balance of US hollywood and a representation of Japanese feudal culture at higher than usual costs' which may still be an understatement, but anyway. Like the novel, this series is meant to entertain & bring tactile reality to the imagination drawing into your world building: your podcasts are part of that world building and you had all the artistic licence to make it say what you want including all the 'authentic' representations. But do be honest with your audience at some point & admit you blow smoke in our faces: your writers' intent is to show 'arrogant greedy western money grubbing lascivious colonizers' dominating the 'oh so noble buddhist stoic self-sacrificing poem writing samurai warriors serving their Lords so virtuously'. It's an entertaining show, no doubt, but your premise is still selling leftist nonsense tropes targeted to denigrate the capitalism that pays for your TV show series to exist, & pays for your generous take home pay. your viewers do deserve better than being shat on by your self-serving writing while they're being mesmerized. Justin Marks (Just N Marx!) epitomizes this self-serving hypocrisy & the writers dutifully follow. 'snivelling f*** smear', indeed!
For those who have not read the books nor seen the 80’s series, this series would appear good. It isn’t. I’ve no idea why they would take this story and wreck it like that. Apart from Yoshi Toronagas actor, all the others have been miscast(with the exception of Fujiko San). The script is appalling and there’s no need for Blackthornd to be using the F word all the time. That’s not historically accurate at all. and Cosmo Jarvisblooks like a monkey who’s been strategically shaved then put into Japanese clothing. He’s trying to be Tom Hardy.
i partly agree but i have been mostly enjoying the show so far but this episode has butchered way to many plot points. and has destroyed all the good faith i had in this show.
Regarding to the F word, it comes really close to the book, both him, rodriguez and the "Anjin" crew constantly curse the japanese and call 'em names. I think every actor has done a great job, though I always imagined kiku would be hotter, since Toranaga pays a huge load of money to buy her services.
@@cristianrosas6337 Not once did they use the F word in that book or in the 80's series. Watch that and get back to me. I thought they were supposed be 'historically accurate' and English people didn't start using that word until many centuries later!
@@Stevie-L-n8g ok, maybe not the F word, I'll give u that, but they still curse a lot in the book, and that was the point (just a quote "Go on, monkey, come at me, you stink-pissed shithead! You Tell this monkey to put up his sword or he'll be a headless sonofabitch before he can fart"). It's just fiction buddy, enjoy the show.
This show is the best thing on the air since Game of Thrones. The production quality, the costumes, chef's 💋. Stunning, brilliant. Remarkable. I don't knownwhy but I was tearing up during this whole episode.
Does anyonen know if the music from the scene where Blackthorne teaches men to shoot is released somehow? It's very short and subtle but I really liked it.
I think it was a big mistake to skip the seppuku scene, because that scene is one of the most vital narrative scenes for Blakcthorne in the books and is literally what changes Marikos view of him.
well lets hope they didn't skip it and it was just postponed. they have next episode to redeem themselves. lets hope they don't screw it up. they're walking on thin ice right now.
Right??? That was exactly what I thought when I finished watching the chapter. For me, that's the moment Blackthorne accepts and embraces the japanese culture, gets the respect of the community too. It was a huge bummer not to see it yesterday. It was certainly one of the most important moments of the book.
@@Reacted1991 Even if they put it in the next episode, it won't make any sense. That happened before the training. Very disappointed they didn't add that scene in, it's so important to the future of the story.
What about the fact the Blackthorn admits that he serves a Queen. Do the Japanese know what a Queen is and how this would definitly affect thos man's political outlook.
Japanese warlords understood that foreign nations had their own customs. Wu Zetian was an Empress-ruler in the Tang Dynasty of China. In Japan, eight women have reigned as Empress, although without real power. Warlords were pragmatic by nature as shown by the tolerance of celibate priests leading the Portuguese military and trade efforts.
The amount of detail in this show is just incredible!
hbo has reason to quake. I have spoken.
I am Japanese. It seems that some people are making a fuss about the lack of black people in SHOGUN. Several years before this era, there was a black samurai named Yasuke who served under Nobunaga. However, he was released from his samurai status at the same time as Nobunaga's assassination. Before him, there was no other black person in Japan. Also, in the era of this drama, only Europeans, let alone Americans, came to Japan. Also,There were no black aristocrats in Europe at that time.
@@takuh6830 Hollywood mentality is woke overridden & the success of Shogun, a follow-up TV Series on Yasuke, the Black Samurai, is sure to be in discussion stages now. Ridiculously predictable. Expect lots of artistic licence like troops of ashigaru dark enough to pass for black led by Yasuke
❤
Episode 4 is a masterpiece, that ending was insane.
Where are u from
Was a
The time sequence should have been stretched by showing that certain (longer) times have lapsed. Certainly the "visit in the night" was jarring and needed some lead-in. Come on, Blackthorne did not even give a hint of romantic interest in her, to her and at all times, was entirely prim, proper and respectable to her. And Buntaro (and the father of her child) just died (in Mariko's mind).
That could have been handled better. Say, like a short scene showing the progress of the current winter. Certainly it was not a spur of the moment consideration in the Clavell's book.
@@raynerstuelgalidHe was definitely interested in her lol. First of all, she’s drop dead gorgeous and the only one who can communicate with him. Ppl know when there’s romantic attraction between them plus like you mentioned- the fact that he was respectful towards her is proof enough that he likes her because he treats everyone else much poorly and roughly.
@@BostonsF1nestyeah I definitely agree
The scene where they imagine their walk along the Thames in London was just beautiful on so many levels. Something about it got me teary eyed.
YOU GET IT! this episode deserves all the awards.
The absolute worst thing about watching the episode is that there's a whole week now to wait for the next episode.
The worst thing about watching this show is that there won’t be a second season
@@BostonsF1nest why no second season? Isn’t there a series of books?
What an episode! The introduction of a new (to Blackthorne) philosophy and life coping mechanism through Mariko, was perfect. You can feel chemistry brewing between Blackthorne and Mariko as she slowly immerses him in Japanese ways of thinking and doing (admonishing him for walking on the garden moss, for one). Substituting naval cannons for muskets in the final scene --brilliant! I gasped and then cheered.I was that invested in the story and characters. And that was a go big or go home moment and boy did it work.
I hope that doesn't backfire on him or his father
It's interesting and symbolically instructive that the first really intimate, personal conversation between Blackthorne and Mariko, is conducted back-to-back, with no eye contact.
“That was a very thoughtful gift”
It was her?
@@moonknight4237yes lol was that not clear?
The actress who plays Mariko is crushing it. She’s amazing, and the woman who plays Fuji has the most expressive eyes I have ever seen! Her facial expressions talk for her. This show is 🔥. And I give serious credit for the authenticity of this show, the costumes and everything about it! Mannerisms and rules are mastered. There is an absolute realness to this show that I’ve never witnessed before. I feel like I’m really there when I watch
The ending was a blast.
Didn't see that coming
My mind was blown away
@@familiasanchezyaruro4272 More than just mind that was blown away for Jozen, apparently.
Literally a BLAST! xD
He was asking for it. Just read the subtitles, he said he was looking forward to being blown away!@@P.Whitestrake
"I don't want any generous cuckoos" this show is sweeping in the limited series AND comedy categories
"then you've killed yourself""ayoyoyo"
1 Koku (一刻) is Japanese unit of volume. Approximately Equivalent to 180 litres, or about 150 kg of rice.
So his yearly salary is 240 Koku 36 tons of rice. Rice can then be traded into other goods such as livestock or coin.
Simular to salt for the romans, or grain and gold for Egypt.
Thats alot of rice!
@@kevinprince9527 good rice is 5-10rmb/lbs in china right now for ref. which is basically 1 dollar. cheap 2-3rmb. so considering japan and antiquity, you are looking at 2 dollars/kg so 2k/ton, so his salary is 72k, so middle class slightly upper in modern day USA. not bad for a foreigner but not so good for her queen's elite navigator, nor a supposed little landlord or king's favor.
An almost poetic, calm and passionate episode ends this way. Simply amazing, until next time!
fog of war kids,,fog of war
Best show on TV. The costumes, dialogue, character building, attention to detail, weaving of theme, etc all top tier. This is the only show that look forward to seeing every week.
That last episode was fantastic. Can't wait for episode 5!
This show is truly incredible I cannot wait for the next 6 episodes if only we could get them released all in one go!
Better like this!!! Slowly tasting it!!
@@UnMinutoViajandomore like slow agony
@@1998rg why are you commenting on a video about it if you clearly don’t like the show…
The writing of Mariko along with Anna Sawai's acting is just so powerful that it tears me apart. If I didn't know the history behind the series I could still see the writing on the wall that Mariko's ending is NOT going to be a happy one. Her obsession with death is pretty clear that she's gonna eventually get what she wants. But I can't help but feel so desperately that I want her to have that moment of the other side of life...the joy & beauty of it.
She only gets these painfully short glimpses of it. Time with her son before her husband comes in calling him less than a man. The evening with Blackthorne and maybe for the first time in her life experiencing true love, of which was her own choosing, before having it ripped away from her. So I just want her to have a moment where she is able to gain her own agency and have a moment of enjoying the life she could've enjoyed before fulfilling the destiny she's been obsessed about. Just one moment of "life isn't only cruelty and duty but can also be beautiful and worth living".
I realize for women of this period that is neigh impossible. They were property and objects to the men that held all the power. And Mariko is sure to realize her lot in life was better than most. But still, she deserves that one moment.
Because I can't help but feel that MANY Japanese women STILL feel like her to this day. Yes, the modern Japanese woman have a LOT more freedoms to choose the life they want. But it's still very much a subservient culture. In school you MUST dress a certain way. You MUST wear your hair a certain way and it MUST be black or dark, dark brown. At work you MUST be polite and can't really stand up for yourself. In society you HAVE to act a certain way. And even if you do try to show your originality by dying your hair pink or dressing in other cultural styles or by getting tattoos you are looked down upon...even banned from bath houses and stuff. While I'm not certain of it, I imagine being Bi or Lesbian is also not that accepted either.
So I really hope that Mariko does have that moment and inspire hope among Japanese women that they too can be free to be who they want to be & will find happiness and joy that life can offer.
I'm loving this series
Mariko is great. But I am more fascinated by Fuji, who I think has more hidden depth.
you mean u haven't seen her naked yet
So far it is the best historical show I have even seen.
I applaud all who worked on this! It’s a show that you enjoy re-watching the episodes. There’s some many little things missed when I first watch it.
thank you fx for bringing this show!!!!
this is the greatest show ever the visuals and storyline is mind-blowing
Book Spoiler alert
I can't believe the episode didn't show the book chapter when Blackthorne almost commits Sepuku to save the village if he didn't learn japanese in 6 months (and order Toranaga gave), for that's the moment "Anjin" understands and embraces the japanese culture and way of life, gets the respect of the community, and shows the inneptitude of Yabbu and his counselors. For me that was a huge moment in the book, maybe the most important one.
Besides that, WOW, what an episode, the acting and direction really makes the book come alive, and shows everything as I imagined it would be. Great job!
Absolutely agree. It was the turning point for Blackthorn, and also the turning point for Mariko in how she views him. I love the show so far, but was disappointed in that particular scene was not included. A very important part of the story.
An hour long Japanese language lesson doesn’t make compelling TV.
Huh? What are you refering too?
I wish this wasnt just a limited series they could keep the story going
This show has some poetic dialogue and also excellent comedic moments. Not to mention the well placed action has me feeling some kind of way.
The excitement of waiting each episode every week is just not justice 😂
This creation of Shōgun truly amazing. Many thanks for this fantastic podcast as well 🙏
The changes from the book still keeps the spirit of Clavell's intentions while at the same time streamlining things for the new viewer who never read the book or watched the original series.
I wouild like to see all the changes they made.
I disagree. While I love the show, they have removed a LOT of very important elements to Blackthorns character growth. As well as parts of the story that will change the future of what is to come.
The book is thick. Tough decisions were made. The one I noticed most was the attempted seppuku. I noticed immediately but I cam see where they made that decision there. And they are doing one hour episodes where the 1980 series was two hours per. Thanks for the constructive criticism.
Yes, the book is thick. And even in the 80s version there were a lot of tough decisions to make. I get that, and expect it, however, I think leaving this scene out was a mistake. Running time for both series are roughly the same amount of time. I'm still enjoying the series, but curious to see how much more they are going to take liberties with.
I have to read the poem about the Eight fold fence,interesting.Another great episode,another interesting Podcast! #ShogunFX
I don't want any generous cuckoos!
Love the Blackthorne, Mariko, and Fuji trio that's developing!
wow .. cant wait for the ep4 to be released very very soon . thanks you❤
This episode was fantastic.
Dutch Naval Cannon
This muzzle-loaded Dutch cannon was cast sometime in the late sixteenth century. It
could shoot a 33-millimeter cannonball between 300 and 500 meters and was fired by
fuse. The cannon’s wheeled carriage allowed it to be moved easily around the deck of a
warship or the battlements of a European castle.
Imported European cannons were used in Japan longer than imported muskets.
Japanese gunsmiths quickly learned to produce high-quality matchlock muskets, but
they struggled to match the durability of heavy European cannon barrels. Unlike musket
barrels, cannon barrels were typically forged as single pieces of metal.
The first cannons in Japan were a pair of breech-loading swivel guns acquired from
Portuguese traders in 1576. Dutch and English suppliers had supplanted the Portuguese
by the early 1600s. They provided the cannons that the forces of the Tokugawa
shogunate (1603-1868) used at the Siege of Osaka (1614-1615), the best-known
artillery battle of the samurai age.
Records provided by: 国土交通省
Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism
this series is very addicting...IMO, a well done master piece.
Watching Shōgun 2024 while rewatching Shōgun 1980.
The original Toda Mariko, Shimada Yoko, died in 2022. For her memorable portrayal of Toda Mariko, she won a Golden Globe and was nominated for an Emmy.
She probably would have been very happy watching Anna Sawai reprise her role.
ruclips.net/user/shorts7tjGZuHAilM
Woah.. I didn't know there was an official podcast... awesome find. Thank you for an amazing job.
That ending was epic!!! I can't wait too see how his father reacts?
1 Koku (一刻) is Japanese unit of volume. Approximately Equivalent to 180 litres, or about 150 kg of rice.
So his yearly salary is 240 Koku 36 tons of rice. Rice can then be traded into other goods such as livestock or coin.
Simular to salt for the romans, or grain and gold for Egypt.
Yoshii was like Y'all getting all the smoke 😁
Mariko-sama, I love you! 🥺🥺🥺
Take your time, each week, lets enjoy this masterpiece sip by sip. Love it.
Josh Hutcherson + Tom Hardy = Cosmo Jarvis 😂
this episode was very good
Its 2am on tuesday. Its out already?
Is the concept of the eightfold fence a kind of dissociation? Great episode and great series.
It means they guard the true intentions in their heart
OK. Thanks. @@BostonsF1nest
its mean Japanese have 8 hearts, dont be fooled by their politeness!
Ok. Thanks. @@jeffa4822
Thanks. @@jeffa4822
That final scene 😱
Great episode!
What an episode
I would like to know what was the dish served during the dinner scene where Blackthorne tries natto. I assume it was rice, pickled vegetables, and grilled mackerel. Please let me know if my guess was correct or if it was a different fish that was used.
Amazing stuff
I have a feeling this is gonna be one of the top 3 episodes of the season😅.
I was honestly worried this series would be just 80% flashy hollywood style cgi filled combat with cheesy romance. Im so happy that its not. It still has good pacing. little bits of politics mixed in with some violence and barbarity.
The armor and costumes look so f**ing good too. You can tell they hired a solid costume designer.
The only criticism i have is that they use some weird fisheye effect with the cameras. Its a bit distracting but its a small thing and you get used to it.
Was there a second book, do they have the material to make another season
No I don’t believe so. The “sequel“ called Gai-Jin isn’t the same characters and takes place like 200 years later. However, I did see that his daughter Michaela is a producer on the show and it would be up to her to approve any additional stories told after the book. It’s not clear that anyone involved wants to do that yet…but it’s not impossible. But it would be a whole brand new story never originally written by the author.
The time sequence should have been stretched by showing that certain (longer) times have lapsed. Certainly the "visit in the night" was jarring and needed some lead-in. Come on, Blackthorne did not even give a hint of romantic interest in her, to her and at all times, was entirely prim, proper and respectable to her. And Buntaro (and the father of her child) just died (in Mariko's mind).
That could have been handled better. Say, like a short scene showing the progress of the current winter. Certainly it was not a spur of the moment consideration in the Clavell's book.
Fuji with the uzi
Drop the episode 5 promo trailer already 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩
Yo who TF is Anjin?? Never seen this guy anywhere! But his skills must have been in SOMETHING big. I need to IMDB my life right now... !!
Edit: omg yes, he was the PTSD soldier in Peaky Blinders!!
It's what the Japanese call Blackthorne because his name is unpronouncable in their tongue.
@@KoyomiHiroyukiI think he means who’s the actor of blackthorne lol
@@KoyomiHiroyuki lmao yeah the actor 🤣👏
@kylelee6 Everyone is so talented in this series. And I already recognize the main players. But this Cosmo Jarvis is sensational. And I guess he's had a small part in Peaky Blinders. But I don't think it was a stand-out role. Wait, was he the crazy sniper??
Is Buntaro really dead? Obviously I won't say because I saw the first Shogun mini series and I read the novel by James Clavell. I don't want to spoil the series for people who are watching the show for the first time.
Watch prior podcasts.
For me to say what I know would spoil the miniseries for people who haven't watched the previous mini series or read the novel.
I really love Mariko 😍 love their chemistry with cosmo jarvis 😍 waiting for there love scene 🤭 if only😅
I am not worthy of such a good show
The show to rival G.O.T.👊
Why does FX not rerun a single episode of this show after it airs on TV? I missed the episode tonight and forgot to DVR it. That's on me, but I can't believe there are zero opportunities to rewatch it before episode 5 comes out next week. Frustrating.
Hulu. That's the only way I know of to watch it again.
@@mlm5150 thanks, I think you are right
OMI Played Toranaga
This show is brilliant! It is unfair when people compare it to the 1980 version. Best on T.V. so far in 2024 with Fargo a almost close 2nd.
I hope theres explanation why torinatto leave the short fuse inexperience son in this lion's den
What happend to Blackthornes men? Were they killed? will he find them ? Are they lying to him about being moved? 27:57
Give me more
Did the son make a mistake? What will his father say?
raise your hands if you hate Toranaga's son for blasting off those messengers 🙋♂
😂😂😂
mariko and john's night time conversation by the hot spring was like teenage YA novel angsty quality dialogue "lose your self walking along the river"......."and you're free" - oh please. I rolled my eyes hard.
Mariko just saw her husband go off to die, her son is still in danger likely to be killed by Ishido, she read John's journal where he described the horrors he committed, she's allegedly a devout Christian........yet she decides to sleep with john? because he gave some generic hallmark quality "romantic" dialogue?
not to mention if it was ever found out, she'd likely be in grave danger herself. it makes zero sense for someone who is supposed to be intelligent. it also makes her seem very cold hearted
IMO, this was the weakest episode. The strength of the show is the council and tug of war with Toronaga and Ishido. I could see this Mariko-John coupling a mile away, and its easily the most boring part of the show.
Mariko Sama saw the need to sleep with Blackthorne to fix him to his prescribed task. Not for romantic reasons but because it forwarded her mission, given to her by Taranaga Sama. Blackthorne obviously preffered her to his given consort. And the reason for the consort again was to keep Blackthorne happy. Blackthorne is now happier and able to function better. And he will no longer talk of his ship and his crew. It's not silly romance it's a transaction that she has made, she believes that it is worth the risk, and she will obviously pull back if necessary. And oddly Blackthorne will still keep to the task, men are like that, or at least as she has judged this man is.
As to the novel type dialogue that was for Blackthornes benefit, to set up the sexual liaison, seems you have underestimated Mariko Sama's character.
this is easily the weakest episode so far the cut and changed to much from the book this whole episode felt way to rushed. also cutting the village being held hostage plot wtf that plot like is far to important to cut. i hope it makes an apperance next episode. but honestly this episode has destroyed a lot of the good faith this show has built thus far.
you need to stop saying 'balance of western and Japanese '; it's an exercise in stereotype & deception to sell your story. You could say instead, 'balance of US hollywood and a representation of Japanese feudal culture at higher than usual costs' which may still be an understatement, but anyway. Like the novel, this series is meant to entertain & bring tactile reality to the imagination drawing into your world building: your podcasts are part of that world building and you had all the artistic licence to make it say what you want including all the 'authentic' representations. But do be honest with your audience at some point & admit you blow smoke in our faces: your writers' intent is to show 'arrogant greedy western money grubbing lascivious colonizers' dominating the 'oh so noble buddhist stoic self-sacrificing poem writing samurai warriors serving their Lords so virtuously'. It's an entertaining show, no doubt, but your premise is still selling leftist nonsense tropes targeted to denigrate the capitalism that pays for your TV show series to exist, & pays for your generous take home pay. your viewers do deserve better than being shat on by your self-serving writing while they're being mesmerized. Justin Marks (Just N Marx!) epitomizes this self-serving hypocrisy & the writers dutifully follow. 'snivelling f*** smear', indeed!
For those who have not read the books nor seen the 80’s series, this series would appear good. It isn’t. I’ve no idea why they would take this story and wreck it like that. Apart from Yoshi Toronagas actor, all the others have been miscast(with the exception of Fujiko San). The script is appalling and there’s no need for Blackthornd to be using the F word all the time. That’s not historically accurate at all. and Cosmo Jarvisblooks like a monkey who’s been strategically shaved then put into Japanese clothing. He’s trying to be Tom Hardy.
i partly agree but i have been mostly enjoying the show so far but this episode has butchered way to many plot points. and has destroyed all the good faith i had in this show.
Regarding to the F word, it comes really close to the book, both him, rodriguez and the "Anjin" crew constantly curse the japanese and call 'em names.
I think every actor has done a great job, though I always imagined kiku would be hotter, since Toranaga pays a huge load of money to buy her services.
@@cristianrosas6337 Not once did they use the F word in that book or in the 80's series. Watch that and get back to me. I thought they were supposed be 'historically accurate' and English people didn't start using that word until many centuries later!
@@Stevie-L-n8g ok, maybe not the F word, I'll give u that, but they still curse a lot in the book, and that was the point (just a quote "Go on, monkey, come at me, you stink-pissed shithead! You Tell this monkey to put up his sword or he'll be a headless sonofabitch before he can fart"). It's just fiction buddy, enjoy the show.
There is a 80s series?
This is incredible.
What a show.
This show is the best thing on the air since Game of Thrones. The production quality, the costumes, chef's 💋. Stunning, brilliant. Remarkable. I don't knownwhy but I was tearing up during this whole episode.
Does anyonen know if the music from the scene where Blackthorne teaches men to shoot is released somehow? It's very short and subtle but I really liked it.
I think it was a big mistake to skip the seppuku scene, because that scene is one of the most vital narrative scenes for Blakcthorne in the books and is literally what changes Marikos view of him.
well lets hope they didn't skip it and it was just postponed. they have next episode to redeem themselves. lets hope they don't screw it up. they're walking on thin ice right now.
@@Reacted1991 They've done nothing that needs redeeming. You're just a weirdo weeb that is too attached to the old show.
Right??? That was exactly what I thought when I finished watching the chapter. For me, that's the moment Blackthorne accepts and embraces the japanese culture, gets the respect of the community too. It was a huge bummer not to see it yesterday. It was certainly one of the most important moments of the book.
@@Reacted1991 Even if they put it in the next episode, it won't make any sense. That happened before the training. Very disappointed they didn't add that scene in, it's so important to the future of the story.
So we will have to endure the language lessons to get there?
What about the fact the Blackthorn admits that he serves a Queen. Do the Japanese know what a Queen is and how this would definitly affect thos man's political outlook.
Japanese warlords understood that foreign nations had their own customs. Wu Zetian was an Empress-ruler in the Tang Dynasty of China. In Japan, eight women have reigned as Empress, although without real power. Warlords were pragmatic by nature as shown by the tolerance of celibate priests leading the Portuguese military and trade efforts.
@Jon.Morimoto interesting. Regardless, this show is amazing and I admit I am enthralled. I can't wait to see the next episode.
That cannon minced meat sando scene was epic.