I bought a T7 and love it! The simplicity is perfect along with Yamaha reliability. I’ve had bikes with a lot of electronics that I never used so this is fine.
Yea, we can all find some entertainment in the Rider Mode settings that other bikes have, but there's something about the simplicity of the Tenere 700 that we like as well. We get to focus on the riding, the feeling, the travel....instead of what the computer is doing : )
Motorcycle should be raw and not have all the features of a car. Riding a motorcycle is a relationship between man and machine. You don't need all the bullshit you just need to learn to ride!
Excellent reminder, thanks. In this case, Eric is about 6'3" and 240 lbs (+20 riding gear) with about a 32" inseam. So, built like Shrek, but not as good looking. The Tenere 700 in the video was all stock except for the grips, had the suspension clickers about in the middle, and the rear shock fully-preloaded.
I'm a 61 year old KLR 650 rider and will be picking up my T7 in the Vancouver, BC area next week and then riding it home to the Yukon. I'm assuming this bike will be a lot smoother than my KLR on my ride home and I'm really hoping that it will more easily negotiate the nasty gravel roads that I ride in the north. I'm buying this blind with no test ride as it seems to be a slam dunk. I'm going to keep it pretty close to stock on the ride home -- I'm just adding heated grips, rally seat (I'm 6' 2"), LED blinkers, rear rack (I travel very light, so don't need side racks) and no center stand (I'll use a stick to get my rear off the ground to do chain maintenance). Can't wait! I'm bringing a camera and hoping to do a long distance "very average rider" review. Since I never leave the ground I didn't considered the KTM 790, which seems is an advantage if one wants to ride HARD on the street and dirt. And anyways the KTM is ugly as F#@K and all that electronics scream NO to an old guy. Really enjoy your channel.
Hondo Lane, thanks for the note. Sentiments from many of us are that we just want a simple bike that's fun to ride. Yamaha made a great bike for that, so have a great trip :)
I reckon there will be a lot of klr guys buying this. It’s really a modern day klr650 and as long as Yamaha keep it simple it will be a worthy successor.
Sorry, but there's no comparison between the T7 and 790R, for $ 3,500.00 more you get 20+ more HP, much better suspension, more gas, better brakes, bolt on rear sub-frame , better electronics, 790R is actually a bargain. I know, I have one, had a klr650 and it's not even in the same stratosphere. People say the 790R is ugly, not in person, the T7 looks cheap as f**k but hey to each their own.....
Love mine t700, its the simplicity and ultimate riding experience. You can feel the bond with bike, predictable response to your reactions. Makes me feel 14yrs old again and remember all first time experience with classic motorcycles. Bike is balanced so nice it doesn't need electronics aids. Really impressed since last two bikes had all the electronics interfering connection between me and the road. Nice video and realistic review 👌 👍 👏
Thanks, Peter B., and enjoy that bike! A comparison of the 790 R and Tenere 700 has been filmed, and we'll release it in a couple of weeks, so be sure to Subscribe and hit the Notifications button. Not to give it away, but the video will make you proud : ) Love the way the T7 "gallops" when compared.
Great video, going to buy one as soon as possible now you kind of gave it a GO. LOL. Really professional to mention the F9 channel. It shows how great you guys are in creating a brotherhood like adventure riding channel.
Nick, thanks, we're having fun making the videos and watching the Channel grow. More videos on the way, and we hope the info helps anyone and everyone. RIDE on!
Hi Eric, and thanks for the great video. I am not a very experienced rider (about 8000 miles in the last two years) and I started with a XR250 which I rode for a year and 4000 miles in Costa Rica on every kind of terrain. I just moved to the US and got a Ténéré 700 from the second container to arrive here, and yes, I did the other 4000 miles on it since September last year. Where to start? All your pros an cons are spot on. I added the Yamaha center stand which is excellent although a little heavy. Also the Yamaha heated grips - these are not hot enough, at least not for New England winters. I replaced the bashplate for the panzer-looking engine bucket from Yamaha (I love the looks). Also added luggage rack, crash bars, and a GPS and I am exploring all the dirt roads in the region (unfortunately not that many here in CT). So, here are my beginner's impressions about the bike. Probably a little too much for a first bike - the XR250 was much more manageable on dirt and in the wild. But for a second bike, oh, my! I have to admit I was impressed when I received it, and it took me a few days to dare ride it after a year. It is tall. I am just shy of 6" (1m82) and 161lbs (73kg) and my feet are just flat on the ground in the street. I didn't have to change the rear shock spring or adjust the suspensions nearly at all. After we got to know each other, I believe it is a very reasonable bike for someone with my short experience: It does not surprise, especially not susceptible to whisky throttle thanks to the linear power delivery. It is remarkably stable, both on the highway (when my head gets kicked side to side by the tractor-trailer's wind, the bike is like planted in the ground) and off-road - I tried it in muddy ruts with slippery stones in curves and slopes. I thought a few times I was going down just to realize that standing in second gear and gassing it just enough to pass the obstacle would have her work her magic and not let me down. What a thrill! It does not overturn like the Harleys I tried. Some people say the braking is sluggish - I respectfully disagree. What's going on is you have to compress the front suspension for the front brake to be efficient and since the suspension has a long travel it takes more time and a more progressive squeezing of the brake lever, but done right is stops very well. And done sub-optimally you still have the ABS. No traction control is totally fun on the dirt. Some say it handles like a dirt bike - I don't have much experience with actual very light dirt bikes but it certainly handles like my former XR250 (aka Tornado, a carbureted version of Honda's CRF250L). Yes: the bike comes with ABS and it can be disconnected, both front and rear. Disconnecting it can be very, very useful, especially going downhill on gravel. Gareth wrote earlier that this kind of video was gonna make his wallet ten grand lighter - let me just say that these are the best ten grand I ever spent. I do not foresee parting with her any time soon. Thanks again for the video. Be well!
Fun write-up, thanks for sharing. Love that notion of "Probably a little too much for a first bike ....... But for a second bike, oh, my!" Great choice for the Swiss Army Knife of bikes that opens so many doors for riders. We wish it was a little shorter, but of course there are options for those who require such. Sounds like you'll be having lots of fun out there, so thanks for commenting. --- Eric
noxious456, thanks for that great and fun feedback that we appreciate very much. Our Channel is growing quickly, and we've got more videos ahead each Tuesday. RIDE on!
I don't comment often, But, it's worth mentioning this is an excellent review of the bike! Great technical points are made about the bike! Very thorough
Thank you over whelming! After 34 years of Honda Transalp XL 600 I was looking for a better combination. I also ride a WR 450 Yamaha, an MT 01 Yamaha, Triumph, Suzuki GSXR 750 etc. But This Tenere 700 I just bought seems to me as The My bikers dream. Thank you for your test and it was an additional pro for me to get it bought a fortnight ago. I feel VERY happy with it. Very sporty on and off road and suitable even with my wife on the back seat. After test riding the Honda Africa Twin I knew that I did not want this extreme extra weight for a bike in this "off road" categorie". Ralph, from Switzerland
Ralph, glad you're enjoying this incredible bike/value that the T7 is. Yamaha "hit it out of the park" from what we can tell so far. Thanks for sharing.
Great review, Eric! Very realistic, honest and unbiased--no bike is perfect in this price range, and your pros/cons are really good as they are from an experienced rider's perspective. The outtakes at the end were fun and a nice touch--your reviews are really good. Thanks, stay healthy and ride safe!
Glad if you think so, too. The market has been asking for more middleweights, and Yamaha sure did stick their chest out (appropriately) with the Tenere 700. Next upcoming video compares the T7 against the 790 R.
Best review I've seen on the Tenéré: clear, well-organised, articulate and passionate about bikes. This kind of video is gonna make my wallet ten grand lighter at some point. Damn.
Ha, ha, thanks for that great feedback, and hopefully it's just $10k instead of setup/delivery for $1000 more : ) Yamaha made a great bike, you'll enjoy plenty. RIDE on!
Ha, thanks. We're having fun with it, and testing acting chops a little bit for some upcoming skit-type stuff.....but yea, mostly just trying to help folks with the right information. Thanks again!
This bike wasn't even on my Radar. I just stumbled across this. I currently Race Moto on a Yamaha 250 2 Stroke and Husky FC 350. I also have a 500 EXC as my Dual sport but this looks like a great step between into a bike that can do more all around stuff... Two Thumbs up on the review!!
Ginger, cool note to read, thanks for sharing. And yea, a bike like this can open some doors that the 250/350 light bikes shy away from, so enjoy that which lies ahead : )
Great review. I bought a Tenere and used it over 10.000 km now. The only real con i have is that the fuel tank is a bit small. Tank is 16l, but reserve light comes on after 12l. Refuelling every 300km. That said, the pro's obviously outweight the cons.
Bassert, thanks for sharing. Yea, we can expect probably an "Adventure Version" of the bike with a bigger, or as mentioned, a more expensive version somehow anyway after a couple of years. Some folks are reporting pretty good fuel economy though. Check out the Gas Bag made by Giant Loop as a great option to carry some extra.
I'm so tempted to buy one. About electronics, there's one thing. If bike geometry, suspension and engine behavior is good, you really don't need any kind of electronics to stabilize it. After all there's tons of older bikes that really don't need ie. traction control. Only electronics I see as good addition these days is ABS. That's really good thing for ie. wet conditions and let's be honest, if that sudden event happens, it's really hard for even experienced rider to max out braking performance and still keep the bike up. Panic situation is panic situation after all.
Yea, stats seem to show that since ABS, fatalities and such have decreased. Such a great value, this bike, and we have other videos talking about it and comparing it (like to the 790R) if you're still shopping. Hope it helps.
I went to the bike show in February to confirm my decision to buy the 790R and ended leaving wanting the Tenere 700! While I've been riding mostly street bikes for the last few years I rode MX into my 30's , and the familiar feeling the Tenere had is what sold me on it.
Interesting day, that was.....depending on where you are.....walking out of the Bike Show knowing you may have saved yourself about $3700. Great bike, this Tenere 700, and a comparison of it vs. the 790 Adventure R is coming up in another video. Thanks for sharing.
Just bought my first mid weight adventure bike, 2024 Yamaha T7. Excited to take it off the hardtop. I want to get the stock tires off, change the rear and fork springs and go play. Any suggestions you can give me would be appreciated
Shawn, congrats on the T7! Yep, if you're over 200lbs, probably a good idea to swap those springs out. But maybe just try the OEM Pirellis since they're already "used" anyway. --- One of our next videos is going to show what hard parts we're putting on our new T7s. Thanks for watching.
Solid look at a solid machine. Great reliable bang for your buck with the T7. Yamaha has hit the sweet spot. These will be as ubiquitous & trustworthy as all those countless indestructible KLR's in very short order & for many years to come & for all the right reasons.
great, what I needed to hear. My 2014 Vstrom 1000 has been a faultless and lovely bike to own - but with the 3score plus 10 not too far away this 50+ lbs lighter Tenere will probably be next year's replacement. I would like to see a cruise control option on that nice linearly powered motor and maybe look at putting some Ricoh Intiminators to give (in effect) some front fork preload. But that's about it - simple is wonderful for an adventure bike
Finally! A fine adventure bike that isn't bloated with 47 traction control modes and stupid electronics. I would change my Tiger 800XC (21 front wheel ftw, yeah) for this Yammie but seat looks small and uncomfortable. Correct me if I'm wrong please. Great video and channel!
Thanks for the note, and yea, not mentioned was that I was ready to get off the Tenere 700's original seat after about 30 minutes. I didn't mention it, cause it's usually about 45 minutes with every other original seat bikes come with, so just "industry standard" and not worth mentioning. But yea, otherwise, what a bike!
I just picked up a 22 t7 icon blue. I've got about 400 miles on it. I'm in North Central Florida and a lot of sand out here and the tires aren't the greatest for that but hard pack trails rides nice suspension feel decent so far great gas mileage about 67mpg. I ordered src moto crash bars I've got a bash plate coming for it protect the stator and water pump. Love it might sell my 2021 MT10 .... Maybe. Enjoyed the video ty
Ha, yes, good suggestion. Maybe we'll start flashing the conversion up on the screen, as making the words/voice much longer would be perhaps too much. Thanks.
Thanks for helping me decide on the Tenere. It's a big bike for someone new. I have a smaller bike to learn on but after two rides my acceleration of learning the bike, its amazing how we can adapt once we breathe and just relax. This bike floats. I was so amazed how how it just takes you unlike a standard bike which is overly propulsion based feeling. This is a sleigh.
Thanks for the note, and yea, it's mostly "like riding a bike." As long as a rider can reach the ground firmly, typically moving to a larger option like this goes quite well. Enjoy, and RIDE on!
This is the way a motorcycle review should be like. Informative yet entertaining, unbiased yet opinionated. I want this bike for my daily office commute; a 5 km stretch of the road is pure hell. But I know my wait is going to be endless as here in India, the allure of big sports bikes defeats these practical steeds' demand. And Yamaha has no adv bikes in India. Sad.
Oliverider, thanks for the great feedback! The Tenere 700 has that nice, slim shape that sure would slither through traffic better than a big R1200GS or similar. ---- Wow, did not know that Yamaha wasn't importing such models there. Some good other options are available I'm sure, but yea, the T7 is really great. RIDE on!
Excellent review!!! Thanks for the well organized highlights. The T7 will replace my current KLR. Please, for the world subscribers, include metric system. Greetings from Bolivia
Great review. For me, it's out of the basic AT and the T700. The dry weight is actually close considering 1100cc vs 700cc. Only need cornering ABS for electronics. Both bikes need suspension work for a big rider. Both bikes need proper crash protection. It's getting close to the right time for T700 maybe second model for risk aversion. After that Yamaha may follow BMW but adding 50cc and 5kgs very few years until it morphs into the super tenere. I struggle to understand why it took so long to produce. Did they need to clear old stock?
Thanks for the compliment. Subscribe and stay tuned, as we have a video with the Standard AT and Tenere 700 now in post production. ----- While we point out flaws in some bikes, it's a continuous marvel to think about what goes into making such an incredible machine, and releasing it into the market. We hate waiting, too, but understand : )
Because of its simplicity, and Yamaha on the tank, i believe this bike is in a league of one as a RTW bike made today. Great review, imo, comfortably the best bike on the market.
Yamaha has said that they’re likely working on like a 300-350cc baby Ténéré. If it weighs like 300-350 pounds and is as reasonably priced as the T7, I’m a guaranteed sale. The 700’s a great bike, with far and away the best-sounding (probably most reliable to boot, certainly with regard to service interval) ADV bike engine out there, but it’s more bike than I want (I’m 5’9”, 155 lbs, with no experience with or desire for bikes with a good bit of power). I have a TW200 for backroads and trails, and a Honda CRF300L Rally for when I need to ride further/faster on the road, but a smaller Ténéré would easily replace the Honda and suit my needs much better in my opinion. The Honda is really dirt-bikey, I’d rather have something like this. I’m not concerned about the stressed member engine, lots of off road bikes use that construction, including my TWs.
We haven't laid hands on the new KLR yet, but of course it'll probably fit into that "great value" category along with the Tenere 700. (Although a little tough to compare a single cylinder bike to a twin, especially when they basically weigh the same 460lbs or so and the Yamaha is that much more powerful.) ---- While referring to the KLR as a "Great Value," it should be mentioned that we stopped offering the previous versions of the KLR, as they were not holding up well. Burning oil like heating stoves, and with radiators that would crack just from riding (not crashing) they were pretty tough, but also a little nerve-racking. ---- Thanks for checking in with us.
Thanks for the note, and enjoy that 690R. Great bike. The T7 just might be appreciated for riding further away from single track, and more for big-distance trip/packing/travel type stuff.
HillsHaveWheels, those 21 and 18's, and the overall capability of this bike will be a great choice. Thanks for the note, have fun with your Tenere 700, and let us know how you like it. RIDE on!
Eric, I'm seriously considering this bike. I would love to see a video on the build and mods that you guys would do to make this as good a bike as it can be, within the limits of common sense and economy; How much would it cost to make this a tour ready bike, with the safety and comfort items required as well as things like soft luggage, better dash, levers, etc, etc. Make that video and I'll fly out to wherever you are and train on a tour ready Tenere. I don't think you need more power.
Steinar, great, and yes, we hope to get some modifications videos up soon. It's really pretty tour-ready already as a stock bike, depending on how rigorous it'll be ridden (original skidplate isn't so great, and we'd add some crash bars, etc.) ---- Right on, rarely would any of us "need" more power. "Want" it.....sure, we all do. But hey, this Tenere 700 is very fast already.
Been waiting for your specific review on this bike. I like your nonchalant no bulshit approach on bikes how they behave and how their design. I don't know....something about the way you review bikes is uniquely ideal
MrBeefsnorkel, thanks very much for sharing that, and letting us know that such a screename exists? Ha, ha.....sincerely, thanks for letting us know. Snoop around the Channel and you'll see the comparison to the 790 Adventure R, and if you Subscribe, more upcoming videos : )
Another very nice review. I had a short list down to two bikes, but may now need to make it three! Oh well, the more test rides (once it cools down some here in TX) the better. I'll add to my comparison spreadsheet and put this in the mix.
Ha! Thanks, Dan, and yea, after that last note, I wondered if we would complicate the decision for you. They're all great bikes, so the good news is, you've got fun riding ahead : )
Looks like a nice bike,main criticism is no centre stand and a bit quiet.looks user friendly to ride,all the electronic rider aids are unnecessary and add to the price.
After a year or so of research into the Yamaha Tenere 700 I have found one or two major *"flaws" or draw backs:* - The Yamaha Tenere 700 is *_top heavy_* & generally too heavy for off road (452 lbs wet), hence the many videos of it falling down more than other adventure bikes. - I have heard the Tenere 700 has a "jerky speeding throttle" in every gear. That is when you first get into gear you always get a surge at the very start of the clutch engagement. This can get old real quick. - Other minor flaws or draw backs are the fuel cap that comes completely off and the NON-LED very floppy turn signals. Beside the surging throttle the Tenere 700is very good on the road though.
It doesnt fall more than other bikes, and is in fact lighter by a longshot compared to most ADV bikes, also, the fueling is perfect on my bike, haven’t experienced anything but a butter smooth engine and character….
Especially in our fleet rental operations, yea, we wish the seat had been adjustable. Because it's a fairly narrow bike, the height isn't too overwhelming, but yea, the only way to be sure is by sitting on one. There are Low Seat options on the market already, too.
Cant wait for a review on the Suzuki V - Strom 650 XT. Seems kinda perfect the way i see it... I Honestly never understood why it doesn't get so much attention
Yea, the VStrom did well in our comparison of a few other midweight/lower seat options. I love it for what it is, but still prefer the stature and 21/18 wheels of something like an Africa Twin, more: ruclips.net/video/0aSlf8QMmSM/видео.html Thanks for commenting. -- Eric
Fantastic review, Eric, you did a great job--right to the point not the pros and cons, and even a bit of comic relief with the Jim Carey line spliced in there--I laughed out loud as I was not expecting it but just a classic Jim Carey line. I hope when I can afford to get a bike one of these days I can come up (I am down in Arizona) and take one of your courses--like you, I think Yamaha nailed it with this bike and the price point. I'll probably start out on something like a Honda cb 500x, and although I think that bike would be all I'd ever need, this would make an awful lot of sense if I wanted to step up to something bigger and more powerful once I have learned the skills necessary to be a good rider. Thank you for an outstanding presentation--ride safe!
Jmaninaz1, glad if you liked the Jim clip, and we even have one more with him in tomorrow's video: KTM 790 Adventure vs. Tenere 700. Just too perfect of a situation not to use this upcoming clip from Ace Ventura that you'll probably recognize : ) ----- That CB500X will be great for many, many miles, and the Tenere's will be around for quite a while (although at this intro price of $10k, I wouldn't expect that to last.) So enjoy whatever you're on. --- Thanks for the great feedback, and we're glad if the info helps. - Eric
Specs very very similar to my 2012 800GS, which i loved, just a bit less power, which is fine. Unfortunately i sold that bike off awhile ago, and thinking this may be a worthy replacement. The relative simplicity (and price) vs the new 850 is appealing.
Great review. I own the exact bike, loving it. I put stiffer springs front and rear, and it transformed the suspension. Where it shines is standing, the balance is amazing. The motor works - EVERYWHERE. Also, something that gets left out on reviews; easy to change the oil, easy to keep the air filter clean, One of many reasons I picked this bike. THIS is huge. Try changing the oil on a KTM990 adventure, how about the airfilter on an Africa Twin. Just ok pegs, i put fastways on mine. And as you said, VALUE VALUE VALUE.
Hey bud! Garrett here the video dude on set. Yeah, that smoothness and clarity is thanks to my frame rate/setting export knowledge 😋 (youtube compression s^$# on it however I think I've beaten it to some respect) and the 1dxmii paired with the EF 2.8 24-70 USM II lens.
Just bought one. As another said here, kind of surprised that you don't spend much time on the suspension. From first impressions, the soft suspension is the biggest downer for aggressive riding. Then again, maybe that's not a big deal. This bike is for exploring and going places, not racing.
Dan, yea, suspension is a huge topic, and one that revolves around constantly-changing terrains, so it's kind of hard to spend too much time on it. In reality, even at about 260lbs fully-suited, just pumping up the rear preload and tightening compression a bit, the original suspension isn't too bad for my weight. Notice a pretty well-balanced geometry (not overly-sagged) in some video clips. ---- Eric
If you are feeling impacts through the rear end it is more likely to be the compression damping rather than the relatively high pivot point of the swing arm. If anything, a high pivot point should make the rear feel more forgiving, because the rear wheel travel will not arc forwards as it moves through the travel as much as a swing arm with a lower pivot point. There are a number of downhill mountain bikes with high pivot points and the initial rearward wheel travel is a function of the high pivot point. It’s a shame I can’t quickly draw a diagram, it’s hard to explain in words! 🙃 Interesting though, this isn’t the first review I’ve seen make mention of it. Might mean that owners who do a lot of rougher off-road riding might want to look at getting the rear shock revalved.
Howling Mad Murdock, we're interested in getting into more of the physics behind this, and have even reached out to Jason at @engineeringexplained hoping to collaborate. Hoping to hear back, although he is surely busy with that many Subscribers. ---- For sure, the compression settings are a factor, but also that pivot point and steeper swingarm means the wheel has to move backward, and upward in relation to the overall direction of movement, which makes for that little extra "yank," right? If it was moving upward-only (or if less backward movement was involved upon impact) it would roll over imperfections more smoothly, one would think. Anyone know Jason or someone willing to do an interview with us to confirm all this?
RIDE Adventures If the bike wasn’t moving forward then straight up would be the best direction for the rear wheel to travel, but as the bike moves forward the ideal trajectory would be slightly rearwards. Think of the direction of force as the rear wheel hits, for eg, a rock. Because the bike is moving forwards there would be less impact felt if the wheel could move backwards as well as up. In reality, once sag is taken into account, the rearward motion of the Tenere’s rear wheel is likely to be minimal. In contrast, the rear wheel with a traditional low pivot point is already arcing forward as soon as it starts moving up, which will increase the impact felt as it moves towards the rock. Edit: The one aspect where a high pivot could be worse for impacts could be under power, where the chain force is attempting to pull the rear axle in the opposite direction. Downhill mountain bikes get round this by routing the chain over a roller/sprocket at the pivot point.
@@Howling-Mad-Murdock, it's quite a topic that we'll be addressing more intimately. The slight "looping" feeling I get with rear wheel impacts is minimal, but there for sure. ---- Another way I tend to think of it is: What if the swingarm was even more steep. Let's say someone put a swingarm at a 45 degree angle. The unsprung mass would then have to "catch" the rock and loop back even more dramatically then, making that "looping" feeling I was trying to articulate, despite not using that exact word in the video. Above, I see your point: "Because the bike is moving forwards there would be less impact felt if the wheel could move backwards as well as up." But I tend to think, "what if the wheel didn't have to move backwards in the first place? What if it only had to move up?" ---- Anyway, they made a great bike at a great value overall, and we'll be seeing lots more of these on the roads as time goes on. Thanks for talking through it. ------ Eric
Brief comparison to competitors is a good idea. Ie. how likely are you to buy compared to another bike etc etc. just a friendly suggestion since you asked at the end :) big thumbs up from Australia! Cheers
The Tenere was $13,400 when it came here to Canada. It was a no brainer to pick up a KTM 790 R for only $1,200 more at $14,600 . Would've seriously considered the T7 if the savings was actually passed on to the buyer.
Yea, in some markets, those Yammies are strangely expensive. Long term ownership costs could be a difference as well, but good that you have these great options.Thanks for sharing.
The simplicity is a really big selling point for me. I love technology but so often the stuff they add is just gimmicky and distracting. ABS ON/OFF is the only option I need
Steve, good question, and the answer will be revealed in our upcoming September 29th video where we compare the 790 Adventure R and the Tenere 700. So be sure to Subscribe and hit the Notifications bell. Even if the bikes were the same price, the answer to your question is going to surprise some folks, (hint, hint.) It'll be well-explained in that upcoming video. Also, our 790 Adventure R Pro's and Con's video posted last week if you haven't seen: ruclips.net/video/5HdG1xS-5g4/видео.html
Curious your thoughts on how the Tenere 700 would hold up on longer distance adventure tours with a group of KTM 790/890/1290's? Concerned that the 74 HP will make it difficult to keep up with a bunch of 100-140 HP bikes on those pavement miles connecting trails. Thanks for your thoughts!
Hmm, as powerful as all of these bikes are, having enough off-pavement traction would be much more of an issue than having enough power. It's hard to imagine the Tenere 700, piloted by a competent rider, not being able to keep up with the others. (Rewind to Ryan Villopoto on a 250 besting the 450's.) Then again, I'd caution anyone who is riding so aggressively. Such stress and concern for speed can make for a very short riding day : ) --- Thanks for watching.
@@RIDEAdventures Really appreciate that response and approach. In reality, neither a Tenere 700 or KTM 890r would limit my riding performance. Need to put the work in to increase riding skills, confidence and decision making (ie. don't need to over push myself to keep up with other). Cheers to your channel and adventures!
@@ericjackson318, great plan, one that will lead to more miles, and more smiles. Then when the situation calls for it, open that can of whoop-ass for your buddies on the track : ) RIDE on!
If you want to keep your license you’ll keep up just fine ;?). It’s just as fast as the 790 to be very honest, especially after a new muffler which also dumps 10 lbs
Good review.. Are you wearing low profile armour under your shirt? I got a T7 in 2019 and love it.. Like a big Supermoto on road and a big enduro offroad. I'm away down the tracks whilst my mates are still inputting settings into their bigger ADV bikes.
Yep, you can see the type of body armor Eric is wearing in this full gear setup and explanation video. Enjoy that T7! Link here: ruclips.net/video/t6JJEFD1J1o/видео.html
I would assume they are at full production, as the T7's are in such high demand. I think we can expect pricing to go up for sure as global supply chain issues and inflation become bigger factors. Plus, Yamaha will probably re-release this bike with a bunch of electronics and stuff to justify a higher MSRP (unfortunately. It's like the perfect bike right now.)
@@RIDEAdventures I agree I like the fact that the t7 has very little electronics. Unfortunately I won't be able to purchase one until the first couple of months of next year then I'll be able to pay cash. Have a great day aloha
Nice review. Yamaha, if you are reading this, please put out a "premium addition", similar to KTM 6 days. Pimp one out from the factory. premium levers, premium skid plates, premium grips and spec'd to order spring rates.
I want to buy my first motorcycle and I'm a bit confused. I like this bike and I'm 6'2 (1,88cm) so i think i will fit perfectly on a T7. Although I will mostly ride on roads,(dirty roads maybe sometimes at first) and i will ride two up mostly aswell. I want the motorcycle for small andlarge trips when i can. Don't know if t7 will be a good option.. Tracer 7 is another option but a bit small bike for me i guess, and maybe a bit more beginner friendly. What's your thoughts on these? Nice video!
Really well put together video, and a great review. Nice work. Now you're a big dude... How are the ergonomics? Seat to foot pegs, handle bars... Anything you liked? Anything you would change?
Thanks, Chris, more videos on the way every other Tuesday. ---- I meant to mention in the review that the Tenere 700 is really close to being pretty great for me in the standing position as well, even as a bone stock bike. Yamaha put pretty tall handlebar risers on there, and I might only want about 1 to 1.5 inches more in bar height to make it perfect. And I'm about 6'3," 240 (260 with full gear) and with a 32" inseam. So I don't have any real seat-to-peg challenges with my Shrek-physique, and the stock T7 has been a pleasure to ride. Hope that helps. - Eric
I here a lot of "price point" talk around this bike. How jaded we have become. It's all relative but ten grand IS a lot of money. Take a look at the fit and finish on a Triumph Speed Twin around that price point.
Tough to talk pricing, as it varies so much around the world. Below, others have reported the T7 being about the same as the 790 Adventure R, where they live.
I have been riding DRs for years,long distances.Sometimes 5 months on the road.I travel pretty light.A lot of gravel and pavement.I've done a LOT of modifications to suit my needs. How would you rate the seat,handlebar footpeg position collectively and individually as it comes stock?This bike looks like it might suit my needs if I want to try something new.
Robert, good question. I'm probably not the ideal size/shape for the Tenere 700, and would like a little more footpeg reach, but even with just the stock bars and risers, it's quite good even for standing (and I'm about 6'3"/240lbs with a 32" inseam.) However, if I had to pick 1 bike right now to be ready for long distance touring, AND have something athletic for dirt/single-track, and trying to keep up with single-cylinder bikes in a domain where they shine, the Tenere 700 would probably be it. It's exactly in the middle of both of those "needs," and of course, with Yamaha reliability. We did another video that might help, and it talks much more about the feel of the T7. Hope it helps. ---- Eric --- ruclips.net/video/fRIk7625JUI/видео.html
@@robertweeks2039, great. If you can get to Oregon or the West Coast U.S., we have them as rentals: www.rideadv.com/rentals/motorcycle-in-usa/west-coast-backcountry-discovery-rocky-mountain-best-dual-sport-routes
And given some of the 790 headaches we've had...perhaps preferring the T7. We've already filmed our comparison of the T7 and 790, coming out in a few weeks. "The Lion vs. The Gazelle."
@@RIDEAdventures Thank you! Btw, it would be awesome if the videos were a little longer so that we could enjoy them more time😃 The ideas of your videos are great, as well as the directing and filming itself!
Thanks! Yes, about 6'3" 260 (fully suited up) but with a 32" inseam, which means I can reach the ground pretty/barely well on the Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports. That bike, to me, is the favorite right now. Sure, it's not as powerful as the KTM 1090/1290 Adventure or some others, but in the motorcycle rental business, I just cringe at any bike that isn't at the top of the list of "most reliable." Not only is the ATAS outstandingly reliable, but it's an all-around athletic, great bike. Hope that helps - Eric
Hello, tanks for your review. You forgot to talk about the seat that uncomfortable for long distance.for me it was max one hour highway riding & must take a brake after (I did Paris Milano Paris on it). Other negative is the windscreen that can be positive with after market one. the only electric that missing is the cruise control if doing lots of highways. The bike is little high for me - 5.7” but can handle . With all what I say on this bike it’s still feel very light end easy to ride even for not experience rider like me. I bought it cos the price , easy on maintenance & reliable japonais. I recommend this motorcycle & if you think to buy it, take it for a test ride, maybe you 👍 it , maybe not. Ride safe 🏍
Levido, thanks for sharing, and yea, that original seat was definitely uncomfortable. Such is usually the case in the adventure bike category, perhaps that's why we didn't even bother to mention it. Great bike though, hope you enjoy!
@2:52 and @6:47 wow, those rear blinkers look like they are made out of rubber, shaking around like crazy. I'm a bit worried if that could lead to material fatigue after riding for a while.
Yea, the T7 is getting teased for those blinkers. We haven't confirmed yet, but being so wiggly might make them excellent for crash-resistance. Hope they last, cause it would be one more positive nod toward the Tenere 700 being such an incredible value.
Yeah the blinkers are rubber fittings ...that's on intentional though. Same thing u get on Yamaha road trail bikes because if you clip your blinkers on a tree or rock or drop the bike into a bank you want your blinkers to bend and at worse pop out of the mounting rather then have a snapped blinker every second ride 😂
The Tenere 700 and a hold-over 2019 AT are the same cost right now, so I'm torn. I'd be super happy with either. Just waiting on my theft insurance settlement so I can buy a replacement bike, and driving myself nuts trying to come to a decision while I wait. But I do appreciate your videos, and the experienced insights you provide. :)
Fun that you get to do such shopping again, bummer about your old bike. If you can hang on two weeks, our next video will be about those two bikes, with the decision hinging on one very important tiebreaker point: “Size matters.” (Pick accordingly)
I was thinking the same thing. Fun fact, in Greece (where i live), a used 2019 At Adventure sports goes for ~12k. A brand new T700 Rally Ed. goes for 12.200 (All in Euros).
@@RIDEAdventures I've got a bit of time to go before my check arrives, so I'm really looking forward to the next video. Thankfully, my last bike was 592-lbs, so I'll be good to go for either bike. Although 460-lbs is a really good weight figure... I'm flip-flopping like a trout on land. Thanks for the reply! I've subscribed so I won't miss any uploads. :)
Roland, Interesting, and it's been reported to be about the same as a BMW F850GS in other parts of the world. Not sure why the huge price variance from Yamaha, but the long-term ownership is of course likely to cost less with the Tenere 700. ---- Not to get ahead too much, but one of our next 3 videos in production is the 700 vs. 790, and as far as how it rides, and the overall experience goes......T7 wins for us so far. Engine goes to KTM of course, but what a pleasure the T7 is to depend on, not have MTC/ABS settings change on you, etc.
Good review ty im hoping the Yamaha team that developed this bike get a big bonus for awakening their talent to the world. and their bosses .Now all they need to do is make another one with their 900 triple and finally let the super tenure out to pasture
Thanks for the review. I have been looking for a good BDR bike and really like the Tenere however the size/weight really concerns me. I'm only 5'8''/160. I know you have CB500x's as well. Do you see these bikes very similar or would you recommend one over the other for smaller riders? Thanks
Pretty different bikes, but with some similarities. T7 definitely being taller, but they weigh about the same. Tough for us to advise on fitting, hopefully that's something you can confirm by stopping by your local dealer? Plenty of riders with a similar stature will be fine on either bike, depends on the rider. Hope that helps.
@@RIDEAdventures Thanks for your reply. I have looked at and sat on both bikes and yes they are very similar weight. My question was more along the line of; Given you have experience with riders on both bikes, have you noticed smaller riders having more difficulty picking up or managing the larger T7? Thanks
@@johnscott9829, got it. Being a bit taller of a bike, of course the T7 will be more of a challenge for anyone to pickup, and the smaller/shorter the person, probably the tougher the bigger bike would be. Depending on where you are, get each out for a rental sometime perhaps? We have both bikes here in our Oregon-based rental fleet and offer these bikes on our Baja tours in the winter. Folks generally pick the bike that fits their stature best, so we don't get such feedback about mismatches.
Phil on the Trail, thanks for the great feedback, more videos ahead. Which bike? Depends mostly on the size of the rider, and their willingness to spend $$$. Both bikes fall under the "incredible bang-for-your-buck" category, being reliable, capable, etc. Choose according to your stature, and which one takes into consideration that Patagonia is a very expensive place to travel : ) Have fun!
Gloss Black, yep, and it'll probably take that title in many other markets if it hasn't already. What a great value and fun bike to ride. Enjoy if you get one, and thanks for the great feedback : )
I think it was no1 overall.. Killed the KTM 790 in sales. 17k seems a bit steep when the Atwin was 15.5k not that long ago. And knowing ktm we will see really cheap 790s going for under 20k soon enough. For 3k difference I'd take the ktm cos im gonna have to spend 3k to get the t7 up to scratch anyway. 790r is good to go out of the box...well almost....... BUT then there those fugly looks on the ktm and the t7 just looks so damn good..sigh. my first world problems.
Ktm is a consideration, but some in europe have spent 30% of their first year at the dealer getting repiared. Forget that. Reliability to me is worth paying adiscount for less hp and adequate suspension, for a lightweight rider.
Is it still an engine stressed chassis design? They made a double cradle frame for this bike. The street bikes that use this engine definitely have it as a stressed member.
Yep, same (basically same) engine used by Yamaha in some street models, stressing the engine as chassis. We have yet to hear of any catastrophes on the Tenere 700's engine/chassis, and hope it remains that way. Great bike.
Carl, good question, and the difference would mostly revolve around the feeling of removing 1 cylinder and about 100 lbs from the Tenere 700. When we think "Long Distance," the thought of a slightly-more-buzzy single cylinder engine, and the extra effects of wind on the lighter 701, doesn't sound as appealing. Then again: Depends on the terrain, what you need to bring, and how "long" long really is : )
Didn't think it was too soft, even at about 260 fully suited. Tweaking the clickers, and pumping up the rear preload, and yea.......I could probably use a different set of springs all the way around, but we don't alter those springs much from original on our rental fleet, so this was pretty good. --- Dashboard wiggles on so many bikes, no big deal for us. --Thanks for the positive comment. - Eric
The worst thing is about this model is the price: some dealers inflate the price about 20% and it reached 12K. Since Yamaha sends not enough models, they take the advantage of it.
Yea, huge supply/demand imbalances and some are hiking up the price accordingly. Others, however, are not doing so. Maybe just a matter of shopping around.
Greetings from the High Desert of Central Oregon! We're based here in Bend, and yea......the entire Pacific Northwest really is outstanding for riding, scenery, and outdoor adventure.
@@RIDEAdventures You're telling me! I live in eastern WA (Spokane). It's a real playground for all kinds of DS/ADV hijinks. Next trip to the coast might just need to be through Oregon :)
I would love to get your thoughts on the KTM 1290 R, I have really enjoyed your other reviews, and find them to be fair, and well presented. I have test ridden a GS1250 Rallye, and am lining up to test ride the big KTM in the next couple of weeks. I have the rare good fortune of living in a country that lends itself to both black top and serious offroad touring, so I am looking for a bike capable of both.
GanGoz, great, the 1290 R is on our list to do. In short: Great bike, hard to not like (LOVE that engine) and we just hope you don't have glitches and issues like we and others are having with the 790 Adventures. Thanks for sharing. You'll definitely have your test ride before we get a review done, BTW.
Thanks : ) Get them now, cause the price will probably be going up within a couple of years...but then again, maybe finding a used one then, still with 200,000+ km of life remaining, will be the best move.
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Oh- and kudos for the F9 mention. Very respectful! Canadian brother getting some well deserved respect - warms my heart...
Ryan and the F9 crew have been making some great videos for sure. Thanks for commenting.
I bought a T7 and love it! The simplicity is perfect along with Yamaha reliability. I’ve had bikes with a lot of electronics that I never used so this is fine.
Yea, we can all find some entertainment in the Rider Mode settings that other bikes have, but there's something about the simplicity of the Tenere 700 that we like as well. We get to focus on the riding, the feeling, the travel....instead of what the computer is doing : )
Motorcycle should be raw and not have all the features of a car. Riding a motorcycle is a relationship between man and machine. You don't need all the bullshit you just need to learn to ride!
long time dirtbiker. this bike made me jump into the adventure realm
Something i would like to see in every review channel is the riders dimensions , height weight and inseam .
Excellent reminder, thanks. In this case, Eric is about 6'3" and 240 lbs (+20 riding gear) with about a 32" inseam. So, built like Shrek, but not as good looking. The Tenere 700 in the video was all stock except for the grips, had the suspension clickers about in the middle, and the rear shock fully-preloaded.
True! We would also like Metric on screen. The imperial system makes no sense in most of the world's heads.
I like the street like oil change. One drain plug, and outside spin on oil filter.👍
I'm a 61 year old KLR 650 rider and will be picking up my T7 in the Vancouver, BC area next week and then riding it home to the Yukon. I'm assuming this bike will be a lot smoother than my KLR on my ride home and I'm really hoping that it will more easily negotiate the nasty gravel roads that I ride in the north. I'm buying this blind with no test ride as it seems to be a slam dunk. I'm going to keep it pretty close to stock on the ride home -- I'm just adding heated grips, rally seat (I'm 6' 2"), LED blinkers, rear rack (I travel very light, so don't need side racks) and no center stand (I'll use a stick to get my rear off the ground to do chain maintenance). Can't wait! I'm bringing a camera and hoping to do a long distance "very average rider" review. Since I never leave the ground I didn't considered the KTM 790, which seems is an advantage if one wants to ride HARD on the street and dirt. And anyways the KTM is ugly as F#@K and all that electronics scream NO to an old guy. Really enjoy your channel.
Hondo Lane, thanks for the note. Sentiments from many of us are that we just want a simple bike that's fun to ride. Yamaha made a great bike for that, so have a great trip :)
Great comment, I can relate. Good luck on your trip, you'll love this bike.
I reckon there will be a lot of klr guys buying this. It’s really a modern day klr650 and as long as Yamaha keep it simple it will be a worthy successor.
Make sure to set up the rear suspension sag before you go. The bike handles like crap if it is wrong. Putting a new 90 spring on tomorrow.
Sorry, but there's no comparison between the T7 and 790R, for $ 3,500.00 more you get 20+ more HP, much better suspension, more gas, better brakes, bolt on rear sub-frame , better electronics, 790R is actually a bargain. I know, I have one, had a klr650 and it's not even in the same stratosphere. People say the 790R is ugly, not in person, the T7 looks cheap as f**k but hey to each their own.....
Love mine t700, its the simplicity and ultimate riding experience. You can feel the bond with bike, predictable response to your reactions. Makes me feel 14yrs old again and remember all first time experience with classic motorcycles.
Bike is balanced so nice it doesn't need electronics aids. Really impressed since last two bikes had all the electronics interfering connection between me and the road.
Nice video and realistic review 👌 👍 👏
Thanks, Peter B., and enjoy that bike! A comparison of the 790 R and Tenere 700 has been filmed, and we'll release it in a couple of weeks, so be sure to Subscribe and hit the Notifications button. Not to give it away, but the video will make you proud : ) Love the way the T7 "gallops" when compared.
Great video, going to buy one as soon as possible now you kind of gave it a GO. LOL. Really professional to mention the F9 channel. It shows how great you guys are in creating a brotherhood like adventure riding channel.
Nick, thanks, we're having fun making the videos and watching the Channel grow. More videos on the way, and we hope the info helps anyone and everyone. RIDE on!
Hi Eric, and thanks for the great video.
I am not a very experienced rider (about 8000 miles in the last two years) and I started with a XR250 which I rode for a year and 4000 miles in Costa Rica on every kind of terrain.
I just moved to the US and got a Ténéré 700 from the second container to arrive here, and yes, I did the other 4000 miles on it since September last year.
Where to start?
All your pros an cons are spot on.
I added the Yamaha center stand which is excellent although a little heavy.
Also the Yamaha heated grips - these are not hot enough, at least not for New England winters.
I replaced the bashplate for the panzer-looking engine bucket from Yamaha (I love the looks).
Also added luggage rack, crash bars, and a GPS and I am exploring all the dirt roads in the region (unfortunately not that many here in CT).
So, here are my beginner's impressions about the bike.
Probably a little too much for a first bike - the XR250 was much more manageable on dirt and in the wild.
But for a second bike, oh, my!
I have to admit I was impressed when I received it, and it took me a few days to dare ride it after a year. It is tall. I am just shy of 6" (1m82) and 161lbs (73kg) and my feet are just flat on the ground in the street. I didn't have to change the rear shock spring or adjust the suspensions nearly at all.
After we got to know each other, I believe it is a very reasonable bike for someone with my short experience:
It does not surprise, especially not susceptible to whisky throttle thanks to the linear power delivery.
It is remarkably stable, both on the highway (when my head gets kicked side to side by the tractor-trailer's wind, the bike is like planted in the ground) and off-road - I tried it in muddy ruts with slippery stones in curves and slopes. I thought a few times I was going down just to realize that standing in second gear and gassing it just enough to pass the obstacle would have her work her magic and not let me down. What a thrill!
It does not overturn like the Harleys I tried.
Some people say the braking is sluggish - I respectfully disagree. What's going on is you have to compress the front suspension for the front brake to be efficient and since the suspension has a long travel it takes more time and a more progressive squeezing of the brake lever, but done right is stops very well. And done sub-optimally you still have the ABS.
No traction control is totally fun on the dirt. Some say it handles like a dirt bike - I don't have much experience with actual very light dirt bikes but it certainly handles like my former XR250 (aka Tornado, a carbureted version of Honda's CRF250L).
Yes: the bike comes with ABS and it can be disconnected, both front and rear. Disconnecting it can be very, very useful, especially going downhill on gravel.
Gareth wrote earlier that this kind of video was gonna make his wallet ten grand lighter - let me just say that these are the best ten grand I ever spent.
I do not foresee parting with her any time soon.
Thanks again for the video.
Be well!
Fun write-up, thanks for sharing. Love that notion of "Probably a little too much for a first bike .......
But for a second bike, oh, my!" Great choice for the Swiss Army Knife of bikes that opens so many doors for riders. We wish it was a little shorter, but of course there are options for those who require such. Sounds like you'll be having lots of fun out there, so thanks for commenting. --- Eric
Ride safe
this channel deserves so much more attention/audience! great content, thanks from Germany!
noxious456, thanks for that great and fun feedback that we appreciate very much. Our Channel is growing quickly, and we've got more videos ahead each Tuesday. RIDE on!
I don't comment often, But, it's worth mentioning this is an excellent review of the bike! Great technical points are made about the bike! Very thorough
Fred, thanks for the note, and we're glad if the info helps anyone in bike shopping. RIDE on!
Thank you over whelming! After 34 years of Honda Transalp XL 600 I was looking for a better combination. I also ride a WR 450 Yamaha, an MT 01 Yamaha, Triumph, Suzuki GSXR 750 etc. But This Tenere 700 I just bought seems to me as The My bikers dream. Thank you for your test and it was an additional pro for me to get it bought a fortnight ago. I feel VERY happy with it. Very sporty on and off road and suitable even with my wife on the back seat. After test riding the Honda Africa Twin I knew that I did not want this extreme extra weight for a bike in this "off road" categorie". Ralph, from Switzerland
Ralph, glad you're enjoying this incredible bike/value that the T7 is. Yamaha "hit it out of the park" from what we can tell so far. Thanks for sharing.
Great review, Eric! Very realistic, honest and unbiased--no bike is perfect in this price range, and your pros/cons are really good as they are from an experienced rider's perspective. The outtakes at the end were fun and a nice touch--your reviews are really good. Thanks, stay healthy and ride safe!
Jmaninaz1, thanks for that great feedback, glad you enjoyed. More videos ahead soon : )
The weight ratio between bike and rider is near perfect on the T7 . Yamaha has nipped it in the bud with this Adventure bike !!
Glad if you think so, too. The market has been asking for more middleweights, and Yamaha sure did stick their chest out (appropriately) with the Tenere 700. Next upcoming video compares the T7 against the 790 R.
Kudos to Yamaha its exactly what many of us want, we hope they keep it simple but brilliant without interference. Great review, thanks
Best review I've seen on the Tenéré: clear, well-organised, articulate and passionate about bikes. This kind of video is gonna make my wallet ten grand lighter at some point. Damn.
Ha, ha, thanks for that great feedback, and hopefully it's just $10k instead of setup/delivery for $1000 more : ) Yamaha made a great bike, you'll enjoy plenty. RIDE on!
I second that! 👍👍👍
Don't complain, it's the equivalent of $15K here in the UK. 🇬🇧 😕
@@andrewkitchenuk I am in the UK ;-)
Cool. The currencies got confused and you're correct, £10,000.
Love Your vids! No stupid/bad acting, just straight fwd. no bs reviews!
Ha, thanks. We're having fun with it, and testing acting chops a little bit for some upcoming skit-type stuff.....but yea, mostly just trying to help folks with the right information. Thanks again!
This bike wasn't even on my Radar. I just stumbled across this. I currently Race Moto on a Yamaha 250 2 Stroke and Husky FC 350. I also have a 500 EXC as my Dual sport but this looks like a great step between into a bike that can do more all around stuff... Two Thumbs up on the review!!
Ginger, cool note to read, thanks for sharing. And yea, a bike like this can open some doors that the 250/350 light bikes shy away from, so enjoy that which lies ahead : )
Great review. I bought a Tenere and used it over 10.000 km now. The only real con i have is that the fuel tank is a bit small. Tank is 16l, but reserve light comes on after 12l. Refuelling every 300km. That said, the pro's obviously outweight the cons.
Bassert, thanks for sharing. Yea, we can expect probably an "Adventure Version" of the bike with a bigger, or as mentioned, a more expensive version somehow anyway after a couple of years. Some folks are reporting pretty good fuel economy though. Check out the Gas Bag made by Giant Loop as a great option to carry some extra.
@@RIDEAdventures How long until someone designs a larger tank, split and lower like on the husky 701 or the tanks for the DR650.
Im getting 220-240 miles out of mine, 240 is on fumes tho
I'm so tempted to buy one. About electronics, there's one thing. If bike geometry, suspension and engine behavior is good, you really don't need any kind of electronics to stabilize it. After all there's tons of older bikes that really don't need ie. traction control. Only electronics I see as good addition these days is ABS. That's really good thing for ie. wet conditions and let's be honest, if that sudden event happens, it's really hard for even experienced rider to max out braking performance and still keep the bike up. Panic situation is panic situation after all.
Yea, stats seem to show that since ABS, fatalities and such have decreased. Such a great value, this bike, and we have other videos talking about it and comparing it (like to the 790R) if you're still shopping. Hope it helps.
@@RIDEAdventures ok, thanks gotta check them out. I thought this was only video about T7, good to know.
I went to the bike show in February to confirm my decision to buy the 790R and ended leaving wanting the Tenere 700! While I've been riding mostly street bikes for the last few years I rode MX into my 30's , and the familiar feeling the Tenere had is what sold me on it.
Interesting day, that was.....depending on where you are.....walking out of the Bike Show knowing you may have saved yourself about $3700. Great bike, this Tenere 700, and a comparison of it vs. the 790 Adventure R is coming up in another video. Thanks for sharing.
Just bought my first mid weight adventure bike, 2024 Yamaha T7. Excited to take it off the hardtop. I want to get the stock tires off, change the rear and fork springs and go play. Any suggestions you can give me would be appreciated
Shawn, congrats on the T7! Yep, if you're over 200lbs, probably a good idea to swap those springs out. But maybe just try the OEM Pirellis since they're already "used" anyway. --- One of our next videos is going to show what hard parts we're putting on our new T7s. Thanks for watching.
Solid look at a solid machine. Great reliable bang for your buck with the T7. Yamaha has hit the sweet spot. These will be as ubiquitous & trustworthy as all those countless indestructible KLR's in very short order & for many years to come & for all the right reasons.
Exactly the parallel that we had in mind: Like the KLR, like the XR650L.....these Tenere 700's could be around and unchanged for a long, long time.
great, what I needed to hear. My 2014 Vstrom 1000 has been a faultless and lovely bike to own - but with the 3score plus 10 not too far away this 50+ lbs lighter Tenere will probably be next year's replacement. I would like to see a cruise control option on that nice linearly powered motor and maybe look at putting some Ricoh Intiminators to give (in effect) some front fork preload. But that's about it - simple is wonderful for an adventure bike
Should have mine in the next few weeks. Looking forward to having a BDR machine.
Finally! A fine adventure bike that isn't bloated with 47 traction control modes and stupid electronics. I would change my Tiger 800XC (21 front wheel ftw, yeah) for this Yammie but seat looks small and uncomfortable. Correct me if I'm wrong please. Great video and channel!
Thanks for the note, and yea, not mentioned was that I was ready to get off the Tenere 700's original seat after about 30 minutes. I didn't mention it, cause it's usually about 45 minutes with every other original seat bikes come with, so just "industry standard" and not worth mentioning. But yea, otherwise, what a bike!
I just picked up a 22 t7 icon blue. I've got about 400 miles on it. I'm in North Central Florida and a lot of sand out here and the tires aren't the greatest for that but hard pack trails rides nice suspension feel decent so far great gas mileage about 67mpg. I ordered src moto crash bars I've got a bash plate coming for it protect the stator and water pump. Love it might sell my 2021 MT10 .... Maybe. Enjoyed the video ty
I wish you could help us save a little googling with a metric conversion in your next video. Cheers and great vids!
Ha, yes, good suggestion. Maybe we'll start flashing the conversion up on the screen, as making the words/voice much longer would be perhaps too much. Thanks.
Thanks for helping me decide on the Tenere. It's a big bike for someone new. I have a smaller bike to learn on but after two rides my acceleration of learning the bike, its amazing how we can adapt once we breathe and just relax. This bike floats. I was so amazed how how it just takes you unlike a standard bike which is overly propulsion based feeling. This is a sleigh.
Thanks for the note, and yea, it's mostly "like riding a bike." As long as a rider can reach the ground firmly, typically moving to a larger option like this goes quite well. Enjoy, and RIDE on!
Thorough and entertaining review. You guys really understand the dual sport experience.
I took a test ride on it here in Australia and I can fully back what has been said in this video. What a gem. :-)
Peter, thanks. Hope you liked it like we do (except for the little extra kick in the butt.)
DR650 is a single and is the middle of all possible uses. It's the ultimate middle adventure bike.
This is the way a motorcycle review should be like. Informative yet entertaining, unbiased yet opinionated.
I want this bike for my daily office commute; a 5 km stretch of the road is pure hell. But I know my wait is going to be endless as here in India, the allure of big sports bikes defeats these practical steeds' demand. And Yamaha has no adv bikes in India. Sad.
Oliverider, thanks for the great feedback! The Tenere 700 has that nice, slim shape that sure would slither through traffic better than a big R1200GS or similar. ---- Wow, did not know that Yamaha wasn't importing such models there. Some good other options are available I'm sure, but yea, the T7 is really great. RIDE on!
Excellent review!!! Thanks for the well organized highlights. The T7 will replace my current KLR.
Please, for the world subscribers, include metric system. Greetings from Bolivia
Great review. For me, it's out of the basic AT and the T700. The dry weight is actually close considering 1100cc vs 700cc. Only need cornering ABS for electronics. Both bikes need suspension work for a big rider. Both bikes need proper crash protection. It's getting close to the right time for T700 maybe second model for risk aversion. After that Yamaha may follow BMW but adding 50cc and 5kgs very few years until it morphs into the super tenere. I struggle to understand why it took so long to produce. Did they need to clear old stock?
Thanks for the compliment. Subscribe and stay tuned, as we have a video with the Standard AT and Tenere 700 now in post production. ----- While we point out flaws in some bikes, it's a continuous marvel to think about what goes into making such an incredible machine, and releasing it into the market. We hate waiting, too, but understand : )
You can order the T7 from the factory with the lower seat option. It has a different sku, don't know why they hide it.
Because of its simplicity, and Yamaha on the tank, i believe this bike is in a league of one as a RTW bike made today.
Great review, imo, comfortably the best bike on the market.
Thanks, Michael. It could become that twin-cylinder "staple" in the RTW market for sure.
One of the best and concise reviews
Thanks for that note! More ahead.
Yamaha has said that they’re likely working on like a 300-350cc baby Ténéré. If it weighs like 300-350 pounds and is as reasonably priced as the T7, I’m a guaranteed sale. The 700’s a great bike, with far and away the best-sounding (probably most reliable to boot, certainly with regard to service interval) ADV bike engine out there, but it’s more bike than I want (I’m 5’9”, 155 lbs, with no experience with or desire for bikes with a good bit of power). I have a TW200 for backroads and trails, and a Honda CRF300L Rally for when I need to ride further/faster on the road, but a smaller Ténéré would easily replace the Honda and suit my needs much better in my opinion. The Honda is really dirt-bikey, I’d rather have something like this. I’m not concerned about the stressed member engine, lots of off road bikes use that construction, including my TWs.
Thinking of selling the wr250r and upgrading to this bike.
New KLR650 2022 vs T700. What are your thoughts?
We haven't laid hands on the new KLR yet, but of course it'll probably fit into that "great value" category along with the Tenere 700. (Although a little tough to compare a single cylinder bike to a twin, especially when they basically weigh the same 460lbs or so and the Yamaha is that much more powerful.) ---- While referring to the KLR as a "Great Value," it should be mentioned that we stopped offering the previous versions of the KLR, as they were not holding up well. Burning oil like heating stoves, and with radiators that would crack just from riding (not crashing) they were pretty tough, but also a little nerve-racking. ---- Thanks for checking in with us.
Great video and feedback. This may be my next bike! Currently on a KTM 690R. I like what I’ve been hearing about this bike and the Yamaha reliability.
Thanks for the note, and enjoy that 690R. Great bike. The T7 just might be appreciated for riding further away from single track, and more for big-distance trip/packing/travel type stuff.
This is the bike I am currently looking into picking up thanks for the great review and breakdown!
HillsHaveWheels, those 21 and 18's, and the overall capability of this bike will be a great choice. Thanks for the note, have fun with your Tenere 700, and let us know how you like it. RIDE on!
Eric, I'm seriously considering this bike. I would love to see a video on the build and mods that you guys would do to make this as good a bike as it can be, within the limits of common sense and economy; How much would it cost to make this a tour ready bike, with the safety and comfort items required as well as things like soft luggage, better dash, levers, etc, etc. Make that video and I'll fly out to wherever you are and train on a tour ready Tenere. I don't think you need more power.
Steinar, great, and yes, we hope to get some modifications videos up soon. It's really pretty tour-ready already as a stock bike, depending on how rigorous it'll be ridden (original skidplate isn't so great, and we'd add some crash bars, etc.) ---- Right on, rarely would any of us "need" more power. "Want" it.....sure, we all do. But hey, this Tenere 700 is very fast already.
For a 10K bike, at least have also the fork adjustable for preload. Also a TFT screen for the instrumentation for that price.
Been waiting for your specific review on this bike. I like your nonchalant no bulshit approach on bikes how they behave and how their design. I don't know....something about the way you review bikes is uniquely ideal
MrBeefsnorkel, thanks very much for sharing that, and letting us know that such a screename exists? Ha, ha.....sincerely, thanks for letting us know. Snoop around the Channel and you'll see the comparison to the 790 Adventure R, and if you Subscribe, more upcoming videos : )
Another very nice review. I had a short list down to two bikes, but may now need to make it three! Oh well, the more test rides (once it cools down some here in TX) the better. I'll add to my comparison spreadsheet and put this in the mix.
Ha! Thanks, Dan, and yea, after that last note, I wondered if we would complicate the decision for you. They're all great bikes, so the good news is, you've got fun riding ahead : )
Looks like a nice bike,main criticism is no centre stand and a bit quiet.looks user friendly to ride,all the electronic rider aids are unnecessary and add to the price.
After a year or so of research into the Yamaha Tenere 700 I have found one or two major *"flaws" or draw backs:*
- The Yamaha Tenere 700 is *_top heavy_* & generally too heavy for off road (452 lbs wet), hence the many videos of it falling down more than other adventure bikes.
- I have heard the Tenere 700 has a "jerky speeding throttle" in every gear. That is when you first get into gear you always get a surge at the very start of the clutch engagement. This can get old real quick.
- Other minor flaws or draw backs are the fuel cap that comes completely off and the NON-LED very floppy turn signals.
Beside the surging throttle the Tenere 700is very good on the road though.
It doesnt fall more than other bikes, and is in fact lighter by a longshot compared to most ADV bikes, also, the fueling is perfect on my bike, haven’t experienced anything but a butter smooth engine and character….
@@dasboot9471 God bless & Happy Thanksgiving *_Das Boot!_
An adjustable seat would've been a plus. One size doesn't fit all, this seems too high for me! A good point that you made, thanks!
Especially in our fleet rental operations, yea, we wish the seat had been adjustable. Because it's a fairly narrow bike, the height isn't too overwhelming, but yea, the only way to be sure is by sitting on one. There are Low Seat options on the market already, too.
Cant wait for a review on the Suzuki V - Strom 650 XT. Seems kinda perfect the way i see it... I Honestly never understood why it doesn't get so much attention
Yea, the VStrom did well in our comparison of a few other midweight/lower seat options. I love it for what it is, but still prefer the stature and 21/18 wheels of something like an Africa Twin, more: ruclips.net/video/0aSlf8QMmSM/видео.html Thanks for commenting. -- Eric
Fantastic review, Eric, you did a great job--right to the point not the pros and cons, and even a bit of comic relief with the Jim Carey line spliced in there--I laughed out loud as I was not expecting it but just a classic Jim Carey line. I hope when I can afford to get a bike one of these days I can come up (I am down in Arizona) and take one of your courses--like you, I think Yamaha nailed it with this bike and the price point. I'll probably start out on something like a Honda cb 500x, and although I think that bike would be all I'd ever need, this would make an awful lot of sense if I wanted to step up to something bigger and more powerful once I have learned the skills necessary to be a good rider. Thank you for an outstanding presentation--ride safe!
Jmaninaz1, glad if you liked the Jim clip, and we even have one more with him in tomorrow's video: KTM 790 Adventure vs. Tenere 700. Just too perfect of a situation not to use this upcoming clip from Ace Ventura that you'll probably recognize : ) ----- That CB500X will be great for many, many miles, and the Tenere's will be around for quite a while (although at this intro price of $10k, I wouldn't expect that to last.) So enjoy whatever you're on. --- Thanks for the great feedback, and we're glad if the info helps. - Eric
Specs very very similar to my 2012 800GS, which i loved, just a bit less power, which is fine.
Unfortunately i sold that bike off awhile ago, and thinking this may be a worthy replacement. The relative simplicity (and price) vs the new 850 is appealing.
Great review. I own the exact bike, loving it. I put stiffer springs front and rear, and it transformed the suspension. Where it shines is standing, the balance is amazing. The motor works - EVERYWHERE. Also, something that gets left out on reviews; easy to change the oil, easy to keep the air filter clean, One of many reasons I picked this bike. THIS is huge. Try changing the oil on a KTM990 adventure, how about the airfilter on an Africa Twin. Just ok pegs, i put fastways on mine. And as you said, VALUE VALUE VALUE.
Glad if you're enjoying, and good points.....we hadn't even gotten to the oil/air filter changes yet. Enjoy, and RIDE on! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for this video, Which is crystal clean by the way. what camera and lens are these?
Hey bud! Garrett here the video dude on set. Yeah, that smoothness and clarity is thanks to my frame rate/setting export knowledge 😋 (youtube compression s^$# on it however I think I've beaten it to some respect) and the 1dxmii paired with the EF 2.8 24-70 USM II lens.
Where's the xt09? Guess I'll have to build my own!
Just bought one. As another said here, kind of surprised that you don't spend much time on the suspension. From first impressions, the soft suspension is the biggest downer for aggressive riding. Then again, maybe that's not a big deal. This bike is for exploring and going places, not racing.
Dan, yea, suspension is a huge topic, and one that revolves around constantly-changing terrains, so it's kind of hard to spend too much time on it. In reality, even at about 260lbs fully-suited, just pumping up the rear preload and tightening compression a bit, the original suspension isn't too bad for my weight. Notice a pretty well-balanced geometry (not overly-sagged) in some video clips. ---- Eric
@@RIDEAdventures Good points, thank you. I enjoyed your review. Please keep them coming!
Put on some slim aftermarket led blinkers, cycra hand guards, engine guards and you are done.
Such a great bike.
one of the best reviews.have it in Greece one year now.thanks
Glad Greece is getting the Tenere 700, some countries apparently are not. Thanks for the great feedback : )
If you are feeling impacts through the rear end it is more likely to be the compression damping rather than the relatively high pivot point of the swing arm. If anything, a high pivot point should make the rear feel more forgiving, because the rear wheel travel will not arc forwards as it moves through the travel as much as a swing arm with a lower pivot point. There are a number of downhill mountain bikes with high pivot points and the initial rearward wheel travel is a function of the high pivot point. It’s a shame I can’t quickly draw a diagram, it’s hard to explain in words! 🙃
Interesting though, this isn’t the first review I’ve seen make mention of it. Might mean that owners who do a lot of rougher off-road riding might want to look at getting the rear shock revalved.
Howling Mad Murdock, we're interested in getting into more of the physics behind this, and have even reached out to Jason at @engineeringexplained hoping to collaborate. Hoping to hear back, although he is surely busy with that many Subscribers. ---- For sure, the compression settings are a factor, but also that pivot point and steeper swingarm means the wheel has to move backward, and upward in relation to the overall direction of movement, which makes for that little extra "yank," right? If it was moving upward-only (or if less backward movement was involved upon impact) it would roll over imperfections more smoothly, one would think. Anyone know Jason or someone willing to do an interview with us to confirm all this?
RIDE Adventures If the bike wasn’t moving forward then straight up would be the best direction for the rear wheel to travel, but as the bike moves forward the ideal trajectory would be slightly rearwards. Think of the direction of force as the rear wheel hits, for eg, a rock. Because the bike is moving forwards there would be less impact felt if the wheel could move backwards as well as up. In reality, once sag is taken into account, the rearward motion of the Tenere’s rear wheel is likely to be minimal. In contrast, the rear wheel with a traditional low pivot point is already arcing forward as soon as it starts moving up, which will increase the impact felt as it moves towards the rock.
Edit: The one aspect where a high pivot could be worse for impacts could be under power, where the chain force is attempting to pull the rear axle in the opposite direction. Downhill mountain bikes get round this by routing the chain over a roller/sprocket at the pivot point.
@@Howling-Mad-Murdock, it's quite a topic that we'll be addressing more intimately. The slight "looping" feeling I get with rear wheel impacts is minimal, but there for sure. ---- Another way I tend to think of it is: What if the swingarm was even more steep. Let's say someone put a swingarm at a 45 degree angle. The unsprung mass would then have to "catch" the rock and loop back even more dramatically then, making that "looping" feeling I was trying to articulate, despite not using that exact word in the video. Above, I see your point: "Because the bike is moving forwards there would be less impact felt if the wheel could move backwards as well as up." But I tend to think, "what if the wheel didn't have to move backwards in the first place? What if it only had to move up?" ---- Anyway, they made a great bike at a great value overall, and we'll be seeing lots more of these on the roads as time goes on. Thanks for talking through it. ------ Eric
Brief comparison to competitors is a good idea. Ie. how likely are you to buy compared to another bike etc etc. just a friendly suggestion since you asked at the end :) big thumbs up from Australia! Cheers
Thanks, we're on it! Check out the rest of our Channel, we did compare the Tenere 700 to the KTM 790R: ruclips.net/video/fRIk7625JUI/видео.html
The Tenere was $13,400 when it came here to Canada. It was a no brainer to pick up a KTM 790 R for only $1,200 more at $14,600 . Would've seriously considered the T7 if the savings was actually passed on to the buyer.
Yea, in some markets, those Yammies are strangely expensive. Long term ownership costs could be a difference as well, but good that you have these great options.Thanks for sharing.
Is it better in the middle than the KLR? It should be the standard question.
The simplicity is a really big selling point for me. I love technology but so often the stuff they add is just gimmicky and distracting.
ABS ON/OFF is the only option I need
Nice review! Nice shout out to Ryan F9!
Money aside, would you pick the Tenere or the KTM 790 Adventure R?
Steve, good question, and the answer will be revealed in our upcoming September 29th video where we compare the 790 Adventure R and the Tenere 700. So be sure to Subscribe and hit the Notifications bell. Even if the bikes were the same price, the answer to your question is going to surprise some folks, (hint, hint.) It'll be well-explained in that upcoming video. Also, our 790 Adventure R Pro's and Con's video posted last week if you haven't seen: ruclips.net/video/5HdG1xS-5g4/видео.html
Curious your thoughts on how the Tenere 700 would hold up on longer distance adventure tours with a group of KTM 790/890/1290's? Concerned that the 74 HP will make it difficult to keep up with a bunch of 100-140 HP bikes on those pavement miles connecting trails. Thanks for your thoughts!
Hmm, as powerful as all of these bikes are, having enough off-pavement traction would be much more of an issue than having enough power. It's hard to imagine the Tenere 700, piloted by a competent rider, not being able to keep up with the others. (Rewind to Ryan Villopoto on a 250 besting the 450's.) Then again, I'd caution anyone who is riding so aggressively. Such stress and concern for speed can make for a very short riding day : ) --- Thanks for watching.
@@RIDEAdventures Really appreciate that response and approach. In reality, neither a Tenere 700 or KTM 890r would limit my riding performance. Need to put the work in to increase riding skills, confidence and decision making (ie. don't need to over push myself to keep up with other). Cheers to your channel and adventures!
@@ericjackson318, great plan, one that will lead to more miles, and more smiles. Then when the situation calls for it, open that can of whoop-ass for your buddies on the track : ) RIDE on!
If you want to keep your license you’ll keep up just fine ;?). It’s just as fast as the 790 to be very honest, especially after a new muffler which also dumps 10 lbs
Good review.. Are you wearing low profile armour under your shirt? I got a T7 in 2019 and love it.. Like a big Supermoto on road and a big enduro offroad. I'm away down the tracks whilst my mates are still inputting settings into their bigger ADV bikes.
Yep, you can see the type of body armor Eric is wearing in this full gear setup and explanation video. Enjoy that T7! Link here: ruclips.net/video/t6JJEFD1J1o/видео.html
Ma y thanks. That AStar stuff looks good.
Great comprehensive video from an experienced host, great job!
I would like to hear your opinion about small adv motorcycle like the versys 300
Do you think that they are going to ramp up production of these motorcycles in the US? And if they do will the price rise in 2022 and later?
I would assume they are at full production, as the T7's are in such high demand. I think we can expect pricing to go up for sure as global supply chain issues and inflation become bigger factors. Plus, Yamaha will probably re-release this bike with a bunch of electronics and stuff to justify a higher MSRP (unfortunately. It's like the perfect bike right now.)
@@RIDEAdventures I agree I like the fact that the t7 has very little electronics. Unfortunately I won't be able to purchase one until the first couple of months of next year then I'll be able to pay cash. Have a great day aloha
I would concider this bike a large duelsports bike more so than a small adventure bike. Looks good , seems to handle well. Nice review.
Nice review. Yamaha, if you are reading this, please put out a "premium addition", similar to KTM 6 days. Pimp one out from the factory. premium levers, premium skid plates, premium grips and spec'd to order spring rates.
There already is the Rally version of the Tenere 700, perhaps you saw? Just do a quick search and you'll see the Blue one.
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The rally version was disappointing, too expensive for not much more than different colour plastics.
I want to buy my first motorcycle and I'm a bit confused. I like this bike and I'm 6'2 (1,88cm) so i think i will fit perfectly on a T7. Although I will mostly ride on roads,(dirty roads maybe sometimes at first) and i will ride two up mostly aswell. I want the motorcycle for small andlarge trips when i can. Don't know if t7 will be a good option.. Tracer 7 is another option but a bit small bike for me i guess, and maybe a bit more beginner friendly. What's your thoughts on these? Nice video!
We're unfamiliar with the Tracer, so it's hard to comment. Anyone else?
Really well put together video, and a great review. Nice work. Now you're a big dude... How are the ergonomics? Seat to foot pegs, handle bars... Anything you liked? Anything you would change?
Thanks, Chris, more videos on the way every other Tuesday. ---- I meant to mention in the review that the Tenere 700 is really close to being pretty great for me in the standing position as well, even as a bone stock bike. Yamaha put pretty tall handlebar risers on there, and I might only want about 1 to 1.5 inches more in bar height to make it perfect. And I'm about 6'3," 240 (260 with full gear) and with a 32" inseam. So I don't have any real seat-to-peg challenges with my Shrek-physique, and the stock T7 has been a pleasure to ride. Hope that helps. - Eric
I here a lot of "price point" talk around this bike. How jaded we have become. It's all relative but ten grand IS a lot of money. Take a look at the fit and finish on a Triumph Speed Twin around that price point.
Tough to talk pricing, as it varies so much around the world. Below, others have reported the T7 being about the same as the 790 Adventure R, where they live.
I have been riding DRs for years,long distances.Sometimes 5 months on the road.I travel pretty light.A lot of gravel and pavement.I've done a LOT of modifications to suit my needs.
How would you rate the seat,handlebar footpeg position collectively and individually as it comes stock?This bike looks like it might suit my needs if I want to try something new.
Robert, good question. I'm probably not the ideal size/shape for the Tenere 700, and would like a little more footpeg reach, but even with just the stock bars and risers, it's quite good even for standing (and I'm about 6'3"/240lbs with a 32" inseam.) However, if I had to pick 1 bike right now to be ready for long distance touring, AND have something athletic for dirt/single-track, and trying to keep up with single-cylinder bikes in a domain where they shine, the Tenere 700 would probably be it. It's exactly in the middle of both of those "needs," and of course, with Yamaha reliability. We did another video that might help, and it talks much more about the feel of the T7. Hope it helps. ---- Eric --- ruclips.net/video/fRIk7625JUI/видео.html
@@RIDEAdventures Thanks Eric.We are close to the same build so your comment helps.I'll have to try a this T700 out for a ride to see for myself.
@@robertweeks2039, great. If you can get to Oregon or the West Coast U.S., we have them as rentals: www.rideadv.com/rentals/motorcycle-in-usa/west-coast-backcountry-discovery-rocky-mountain-best-dual-sport-routes
Great review man! Makes me happy to see a bike review here in good ol central oregon
Recognizable land textures, eh? Thanks for the note, and RIDE on!
The T7 mainly competes against the KTM 790. Most of the cons mentioned do not come on the 790 either and it's $3,000-$4,000 more.
And given some of the 790 headaches we've had...perhaps preferring the T7. We've already filmed our comparison of the T7 and 790, coming out in a few weeks. "The Lion vs. The Gazelle."
What cameras do you use?great quality on this video,like a pro film!)
Our Videographer says thank you and he used a Canon 1DX Mii with 24-70mm F2.8 USM II Lens on a Ronin-S Stabilizer.
@@RIDEAdventures Thank you! Btw, it would be awesome if the videos were a little longer so that we could enjoy them more time😃 The ideas of your videos are great, as well as the directing and filming itself!
Great info on this channel. You mentioned in another vid you were 6’3” ? Which is your favorite adventure bike? TIA
Thanks! Yes, about 6'3" 260 (fully suited up) but with a 32" inseam, which means I can reach the ground pretty/barely well on the Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports. That bike, to me, is the favorite right now. Sure, it's not as powerful as the KTM 1090/1290 Adventure or some others, but in the motorcycle rental business, I just cringe at any bike that isn't at the top of the list of "most reliable." Not only is the ATAS outstandingly reliable, but it's an all-around athletic, great bike. Hope that helps - Eric
RIDE Adventures Great info thanks again. I look forward to a lot of binging on your channel🙏
Hello, tanks for your review.
You forgot to talk about the seat that uncomfortable for long distance.for me it was max one hour highway riding & must take a brake after (I did Paris Milano Paris on it). Other negative is the windscreen that can be positive with after market one. the only electric that missing is the cruise control if doing lots of highways. The bike is little high for me - 5.7” but can handle . With all what I say on this bike it’s still feel very light end easy to ride even for not experience rider like me. I bought it cos the price , easy on maintenance & reliable japonais. I recommend this motorcycle & if you think to buy it, take it for a test ride, maybe you 👍 it , maybe not. Ride safe 🏍
Levido, thanks for sharing, and yea, that original seat was definitely uncomfortable. Such is usually the case in the adventure bike category, perhaps that's why we didn't even bother to mention it. Great bike though, hope you enjoy!
@2:52 and @6:47
wow, those rear blinkers look like they are made out of rubber, shaking around like crazy. I'm a bit worried if that could lead to material fatigue after riding for a while.
Yea, the T7 is getting teased for those blinkers. We haven't confirmed yet, but being so wiggly might make them excellent for crash-resistance. Hope they last, cause it would be one more positive nod toward the Tenere 700 being such an incredible value.
Yeah the blinkers are rubber fittings ...that's on intentional though.
Same thing u get on Yamaha road trail bikes because if you clip your blinkers on a tree or rock or drop the bike into a bank you want your blinkers to bend and at worse pop out of the mounting rather then have a snapped blinker every second ride 😂
The Tenere 700 and a hold-over 2019 AT are the same cost right now, so I'm torn. I'd be super happy with either. Just waiting on my theft insurance settlement so I can buy a replacement bike, and driving myself nuts trying to come to a decision while I wait. But I do appreciate your videos, and the experienced insights you provide. :)
Fun that you get to do such shopping again, bummer about your old bike. If you can hang on two weeks, our next video will be about those two bikes, with the decision hinging on one very important tiebreaker point: “Size matters.” (Pick accordingly)
I was thinking the same thing. Fun fact, in Greece (where i live), a used 2019 At Adventure sports goes for ~12k. A brand new T700 Rally Ed. goes for 12.200 (All in Euros).
@@RIDEAdventures I've got a bit of time to go before my check arrives, so I'm really looking forward to the next video. Thankfully, my last bike was 592-lbs, so I'll be good to go for either bike. Although 460-lbs is a really good weight figure... I'm flip-flopping like a trout on land. Thanks for the reply! I've subscribed so I won't miss any uploads. :)
@@mrnekk1 That would make it even harder to decide.
Here in South Africa, the T7 is about the price of a 790 adventure ... that's a hard pick, looking forward to your comparison.
Roland, Interesting, and it's been reported to be about the same as a BMW F850GS in other parts of the world. Not sure why the huge price variance from Yamaha, but the long-term ownership is of course likely to cost less with the Tenere 700. ---- Not to get ahead too much, but one of our next 3 videos in production is the 700 vs. 790, and as far as how it rides, and the overall experience goes......T7 wins for us so far. Engine goes to KTM of course, but what a pleasure the T7 is to depend on, not have MTC/ABS settings change on you, etc.
Good review ty im hoping the Yamaha team that developed this bike get a big bonus for awakening their talent to the world. and their bosses .Now all they need to do is make another one with their 900 triple
and finally let the super tenure out to pasture
Ha, ha, yea, the Super Ten does well, but is wow-heavy. Lots to enjoy on a more middleweight bike like the T7. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the review. I have been looking for a good BDR bike and really like the Tenere however the size/weight really concerns me. I'm only 5'8''/160. I know you have CB500x's as well. Do you see these bikes very similar or would you recommend one over the other for smaller riders? Thanks
Pretty different bikes, but with some similarities. T7 definitely being taller, but they weigh about the same. Tough for us to advise on fitting, hopefully that's something you can confirm by stopping by your local dealer? Plenty of riders with a similar stature will be fine on either bike, depends on the rider. Hope that helps.
@@RIDEAdventures Thanks for your reply. I have looked at and sat on both bikes and yes they are very similar weight. My question was more along the line of; Given you have experience with riders on both bikes, have you noticed smaller riders having more difficulty picking up or managing the larger T7? Thanks
@@johnscott9829, got it. Being a bit taller of a bike, of course the T7 will be more of a challenge for anyone to pickup, and the smaller/shorter the person, probably the tougher the bigger bike would be. Depending on where you are, get each out for a rental sometime perhaps? We have both bikes here in our Oregon-based rental fleet and offer these bikes on our Baja tours in the winter. Folks generally pick the bike that fits their stature best, so we don't get such feedback about mismatches.
Best review out there, brother. Just subscribed to the channel, awesome content.
Quick question, going to Patagonia, T7 or Cb500x?
Phil on the Trail, thanks for the great feedback, more videos ahead. Which bike? Depends mostly on the size of the rider, and their willingness to spend $$$. Both bikes fall under the "incredible bang-for-your-buck" category, being reliable, capable, etc. Choose according to your stature, and which one takes into consideration that Patagonia is a very expensive place to travel : ) Have fun!
Great video thanks. The Tenere 700 is Australia’s best selling ADV bike at the moment.
Gloss Black, yep, and it'll probably take that title in many other markets if it hasn't already. What a great value and fun bike to ride. Enjoy if you get one, and thanks for the great feedback : )
I think it was no1 overall.. Killed the KTM 790 in sales. 17k seems a bit steep when the Atwin was 15.5k not that long ago. And knowing ktm we will see really cheap 790s going for under 20k soon enough. For 3k difference I'd take the ktm cos im gonna have to spend 3k to get the t7 up to scratch anyway. 790r is good to go out of the box...well almost....... BUT then there those fugly looks on the ktm and the t7 just looks so damn good..sigh. my first world problems.
Ktm is a consideration, but some in europe have spent 30% of their first year at the dealer getting repiared. Forget that. Reliability to me is worth paying adiscount for less hp and adequate suspension, for a lightweight rider.
Is it still an engine stressed chassis design? They made a double cradle frame for this bike. The street bikes that use this engine definitely have it as a stressed member.
Yep, same (basically same) engine used by Yamaha in some street models, stressing the engine as chassis. We have yet to hear of any catastrophes on the Tenere 700's engine/chassis, and hope it remains that way. Great bike.
I like these pro con videos. Actually I like pretty much all your vids.
Adam, thanks for that note. More videos ahead.....including Tenere 700 vs. KTM 790 Adventure R. The suspense....is even getting to us : )
Thanks for the great video....any thoughts on the Husqvarna 701 LR as a long distance touring adventure bike instead of the t700 ?
Carl, good question, and the difference would mostly revolve around the feeling of removing 1 cylinder and about 100 lbs from the Tenere 700. When we think "Long Distance," the thought of a slightly-more-buzzy single cylinder engine, and the extra effects of wind on the lighter 701, doesn't sound as appealing. Then again: Depends on the terrain, what you need to bring, and how "long" long really is : )
Great review, kinda surprised zero talk about soft suspension?? Dash wiggling around a lot?
Didn't think it was too soft, even at about 260 fully suited. Tweaking the clickers, and pumping up the rear preload, and yea.......I could probably use a different set of springs all the way around, but we don't alter those springs much from original on our rental fleet, so this was pretty good. --- Dashboard wiggles on so many bikes, no big deal for us. --Thanks for the positive comment. - Eric
I'm really anxious to ride this bike! ✊🏻💨💨💨
Hope you enjoy it! Hard to find available in many markets already.
Great review. Thanks. I’m pretty sure it’ll be my next bike.
Nice Review. That will be my next Bike.
Great explanatory video !!!!!
Thank you! More ahead. Heidenau K60 Scout review publishes tomorrow.
The worst thing is about this model is the price: some dealers inflate the price about 20% and it reached 12K. Since Yamaha sends not enough models, they take the advantage of it.
Yea, huge supply/demand imbalances and some are hiking up the price accordingly. Others, however, are not doing so. Maybe just a matter of shopping around.
What general area are you riding around in? it's gorgeous out there.
Greetings from the High Desert of Central Oregon! We're based here in Bend, and yea......the entire Pacific Northwest really is outstanding for riding, scenery, and outdoor adventure.
@@RIDEAdventures You're telling me! I live in eastern WA (Spokane). It's a real playground for all kinds of DS/ADV hijinks. Next trip to the coast might just need to be through Oregon :)
I would love to get your thoughts on the KTM 1290 R, I have really enjoyed your other reviews, and find them to be fair, and well presented. I have test ridden a GS1250 Rallye, and am lining up to test ride the big KTM in the next couple of weeks. I have the rare good fortune of living in a country that lends itself to both black top and serious offroad touring, so I am looking for a bike capable of both.
GanGoz, great, the 1290 R is on our list to do. In short: Great bike, hard to not like (LOVE that engine) and we just hope you don't have glitches and issues like we and others are having with the 790 Adventures. Thanks for sharing. You'll definitely have your test ride before we get a review done, BTW.
Eric is such a nice guy! And this bike is awesome!
Searching for 9999 $...
Thanks : ) Get them now, cause the price will probably be going up within a couple of years...but then again, maybe finding a used one then, still with 200,000+ km of life remaining, will be the best move.