How video games turn players into storytellers | David Cage
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2018
- Have you ever watched a film or read a novel, wishing that you could change the narrative to save your favorite character? Game designer David Cage allows you do just that in his video games, where players make decisions that shape an ever-changing plot. In a talk and live demo, Cage presents a scene from his new project, letting the audience control a character's decisions. "Interactive storytelling can be what cinema was in the 20th century: an art that deeply changes its time," Cage says.
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When will Ted finally come to the Talk?
thats an idea worth spreading
Good question
The last ted talk, ted appears. He's the final bous.
I hope he talks about technology, entertainment, and design!
5:17
David: What should we choose?
Audience: NAME!
David: okay deviant behavior
A. Monteiro I heard people say “behaviour”
Exercising deviant behavior by choosing deviant behavior
David: Nice try! But I'm no deviant!
I heard yenny
I only clicked when I saw Connor from Detroit become human lol
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Lol that guy deleted his reply calling u gay
Did TED just trick me into watching a game ad?
- Hey son, turn off this game console, enough !!!
- Dad, I'm a storyteller, please don't prevent the development of literature in society...
LOL
Now if only they could turn David Cage into a good storyteller.
he is not THAT bad. i only find his style eccentric but it's not horrible. Heavy Rain was awesome.
crashpal
Heavy Rain is filled with plot holes and inconsistencies. TF you mean?
@@awesometown1000 But its fun,and has great moments,this happened because there were a lot of problems with changes in the story after some recordings were already done. But its still a fun and exciting experience.
Gucci Gang Artist no it’s not
@@alexmansfield3268 Its fine if its not for you, but I do find it exciting and fun, why tf are you saying that my opinion is wrong becausr you dont like it?
saw connor, i clicked
Who?
@@brianboru175 on the screen of the thumbnail the closeup face is connor he is one of the protagonists of the game detroit become human
Same
Same...😂😅
"28 stab wounds!"
You didn't want to leave him a chance, huh?
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Somebody needs to do a TED talk on irony as related to the modern games industry.
He should get familiar with the various RP communities out there if he wants to see how you turn players into storytellers.
It's very simple, really: the more polygons, the more emotiôns.
Emotionsemotionsemotionsemotions.
I'm disappointed there aren't any more Sterling references in the comments.
Out of all the funny s* he produced over the years, him talking about his revolutionary storytelling on a ted talk, was by far the funniest.
David Cage. You've done it again.
What's that supposed to mean, you degenerate ?
I like how he acts like he invented interactive storytelling in games, like there aren't already many companies who have been doing it since the 90s. The only difference is those games get the privelage of being actual games, and good writing.
Bad writter where?
@@Nathan-Croft
Ever paid more than 5 seconds of attention to his plot?
His games get this privilege as well.
@@Megawaps except gameplay. Every "game" of his has no game in it at all. You can't do anything except follow the different paths presented and watch the characters do stuff without your input.
@@DolphinsAreWeird I mean, yeah, but that's kinda the point of interactive movie games. There's a lot of games in this genre and most of them are really good.
Videogames not only make the players storytellers, they also tell stories, facilitate roleplay, competition, cameraderie and rivalry. Videogames are invoking very deep rooted developmental forces and as such, may very well be a great force for good. That is, if they are not pursued to the extreme exclusion of other interests and obligations...
Wow he concealed his enormous ego under a pretty good TED talk. Nice job, Dave.
I'm just a gamer and I make decisions based on the options available. I'm not a storyteller, I'm just a gamer. How do I become a storyteller?
Where are the Super Best Friends Zaibatsu when we need them?
I immediately came to the comment section when I saw this to see any mention of them, I was not disappointed. Zaibatsu go big up.
Same has anyone told them about this?
@@mikekazz5353 i dunno, maybe post it on the subreddit, i don't know how to use reddit
@@johngaete2413 Pat and Paige talked about it on Paige's Detroit stream.
:(
Imagine if a movie was interactive and the audience would press a button to vote what happens next. The movie would be different everytime you go to see it.
Interactive DVD menus... 2!!!
clicked like. got the bad ending :(
ze bad ending*
I am Cyberlife, the Connor sent by Android.
I am Android, the Cyberlife sent by Connor
This is exactly why I heavily prefer video games over films or TV shows. It really bugs me when I have absolutely no control over a situation
I love how David acts all surprized about the clues and choices when he's the one who directed the game. He's terrible at faking not knowing what's where and what's gonna happen.
If you ever become a parent you’ll either understand or be something off
I have rarely found myself so empowered by a game, as when I pressed 'x' to Jason.
How is this a Ted-talk. It’s literally just a marketing campaign.
"We have an android who loves animals"
"I love dogs"
Yes he does
5:18 *NAME*
Choice is an illusion
Except that this is one of the only games where your choices actually matter.
This was kind of cringy to watch. I thought they were going to have a voting system and take out the timed aspect. But instead we're watching an audience failing to participate because David isn't listening. It's worse than a Let's Play, because I don't pretend to have a say in what the player is doing.
The problem with this is that every permutation that involves decision making is still curated by the developer of the game.
What! I check the TED talk channel for the first time in months and here's the creator of my recent obsession. What a nice surprise 👌
I wish I was there so I can have my phone go off with the ringtone of omikrons fight music. XD
I get the feeling this is gonna go pretty viral
Yes
I hope so, this is amazing. Maybe it will encourage some people to start making it an art form.
Sdfghjklllifds Lctyigsdfgbnmbccxsa ....Lmao....no
@@ellw7830Don't think it will go viral because of the things Cage is saying, more so because he's seen as an incredibly incompetent game developer.
have u heard about the witcher ? now thats interactive game
I personally enjoy the interactivity of Dark Souls myself. Good pick though.
David Cage, you've done it again!
Game was announced in October 2015, same month last episode of Life is Strange came out. Guy is telling us this form of storytelling is the future (in 2018), what a coincidence.
David Cage hosting a TED Talk about storytelling is like Nikocado Avocado hosting a TED Talk on dieting
David Cage could’ve quite honestly been one of the worst people to talk about games putting players in control of the story.
I am sorry to have to agree with you.One of my least-liked Ted's 😣
Yeah Detroit become human and player choice are practically antonyms.
@@kittyrules I don't know about that. Unlike most episodic games Detroit become human actually put weight on your choices.
@Please Sin me But the game itself is so linear there is very little room for player expression the choices are binary and boring, and while they contribute to a boring lackluster story they do not contribute to any fun.
@@kittyrules there is always someone like you talking bollocks on these comments. I played Detroit 4 times and had very different outcomes each time. Did you even bother to play it.
MY NAME IS CONNER, I'M THE ANDROID SENT BY CYBERLIFE.
My name is conifer, I'm the ever-green sent by Santaclause
JASON!!! SHAUN!!! MY SONS ARE DROWNING!!!
So[,] based on this, I [ought to] be a character in a game[,] played by a terrible decision maker.
Well, maybe instead, you can go back to school and learn how to write English correctly ? It would be time well spent for you.
@@jobsingames Seriously speaking, where did I make the mistakes? I'm not a native speaker by the way. Thank you for the criticism.
@@welovfree You missed a comma. It should be: "So based on this, I gotta be a character in a game, played by a terrible decision maker." But @Game Film HUB also made a mistake. It should be: "Well maybe instead, you can go back to school and learn how to write English properly? It would be time well spent."
You're all welcome. ;>
@@Zarozian Please, can you recommend a good book to learn proper punctuation?
@@welovfree I recommend to use the thesaurus dictionary often for better terms.
Fascinated with the idea of choices, but not consequences. What good are choices when they all lead to the same outcome?
Would've been better with someone from Obsidian up there.
Edit. Oh man this was just an 8 minute commercial for Detroit Become Human.
okay why is he talking like this is a brand new thing?! they have been making games like this for years now
This is a very odd choice, seeing as David Cage is widely regarded as being incredibly poor at using videogames to tell stories, and is usually seen as trying to ape films methods of storytelling, rather than making use of the rich options that interactive entertainment provides (Please see how all of his games use the same basic controls, despite being about vastly different subjects) For a better example of how to use games and other interactive media to engage people in compelling stories only possible in the medium, please look up Extra Credit's long running series on game design!
I'm not really a good reviewer or a criticizer to stories but I don't know why the story I've enjoyed the most in a video game is from Metro Series. Maybe put Persona 3 and ICO series in there as well.
He's not widely regarded as bad at all. His games are super popular commercially, and he has a fair bit of critical success too. He gets a lot of criticism among people who I would describe as "having standards," but that's not all that many people.
@@WhiteRescuer In terms of a story that's been set out in front of me, I personally hold Undertale as the gold standard of what videogame storytelling can be, it plays with the medium, has an engaging and reactive world and, most importantly, utterly charmed me. I've never had any film, book or tv show cause such a strong response in me before, and I'm fairly sure that they simply can't.
But we also need to be open to the other kinds of stories games can create, the kind where the narrative isn't set out for you at all! Rimworld has left me with dozens of tales, simply by having characters interact and giving me influence over their actions (without simply dictating)
Where do you get your information from ? "Widely regarded ?" I have worked in games for 16 years and David is very well regarded among his peers as a developer. Detroit was an amazing achievement and a credit to the industry in a time when too many poor games are being made. Detroit was also critically acclaimed.
@@Hedgpig In the context of videogames with a strong story that puts emphasis on player choice, his games are almost always the subject of ridicule. I can see why he's the person who would be the "face" of narrative driven games, as he's one of the few game designers who still holds absolute control over the direction of the games that bear his name, but I still think that there are dozens upon dozens of people who would have had a much better insight into why and how games can provide better experiences other than simply "you can make choices and that fish won't die"
Video games are intuitive movies that emerged your senses of cognitive decision making under circumstances better tuning decision perception .
Whether you enjoy his storytelling or not, you can’t deny his passion! Great work Mr. Cage 🏹🌊
Passion also gave us Peter Molyneaux, so.... there's that.
Zero is enough 😂😂
I love watching Ted talks ❤️
Finally a TED I send to my parents and not the other way around !
The Witcher saga is by far much better in storytelling and giving the player the control of their actions in relation with the possible consequences. Another good example but with limitations could be Life is Strange.
no.
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No???
the witcher has better storytelling but life is strange was only slightly better than David, and that's a low bar
Dragon Age and Mass Effect did it before all of them.
No longer the sadness trilogy now The Sadness anthology
i can't wait to play this game! once the holidays are over I'm gonna have fun!!!!!
Video games is already an art. But it can always become even better. ;)
I would love to see one of those 4-5000 page scripts
"We no longer have to tell stories, you have to do it for yourself"
If cage had been a game designer in the 80s, he'd had worked on Dragon's Lair. Oldies will understand
Thank you .
28 STAB WOUNDS !
Yep, he was very angry
"Today I would like to introduce you to this new way to tell stories" *cough* Dungeons and Dragons came out in the 70's *cough*
This game makes me cry
Saw Connor but im 5 years late . Really dis game 🎮 very much interesting & eye opening.
This is by far the best ted talk I've ever seen..
There are many books who have been written based on the same interactive principle...and that is so interesting, because you don't get a confirmation as a reader about your participation in making meaning out of the story or what you infer.
I always gonna believe in Cage as I started to do since Fahrenheit, but he should switch to something more avant-garde than that robot-detective-stories. He should continue Indigo prophecy styled games with much more mystical like Lynch.
I never thought I could see PS4 game in TED LOL
And this is worth it, Detroit is a good game.
Very good conference, very interesting
Just a question, did the speaker is French, he have a French accent ?
I see Connor, I click. Detroit was a great game and David Cage did a really good job on it imo. These types of games are an amazing way to experience a story over and over again.
Please make i new game.
i wanna cry again
As a long-term fan of video games, I expected more
That's right, games are art!
Oh no, I made the bad game
It's time for *ze bad game*
I like his games.
Oh nice! Very relatable, as many games I played were an inspiration for my stories.
Do you still write stories? Looking for a writer to draft a VR game narrative. I have a soft outline of the lore and I already have an aesthetic and rate of progression.
DAVID CAAAAAGE
This was my favorite game of 2018.
Those old people are probably fascinated by this game lol
David Cage love ❤️
i like how we all came for connor
Oh geez, i want to go on ted talk, my research is : how food eater turn people into food teller. Or how bad driver that drives everyday turn into good driver.
David el cajas at it again
Ever heard of DnD and RPG in general? That’s the media made to confront you with choices.
How long would it take to write 5000 pages?
People might vote for choices of protagonists in the movie theatre in the future.
David you the best
You chose David Cage out of all people for this?
The title doesn't make much sense to me with how video games often do come with choices but those choices would influence the narrative of the story that's already there but not necessarily bringing a new element from the player. There are choices and that's true and it does bring innovation to it but when it's already pre-made to act in such a way shows that it would be much like the stories that go into one path with how everything is predetermined in some way rather than making an organic experience. I wish to say that one should notice the stories made by people through whatever medium can be enlightening and entertaining but we shouldn't expect something we can experience in real life from something that is virtual unless the advancement of technology allows for an immersive experience.
his heart is in the right place, it's in the execution where he drops the ball, hard
There you go dad
I'm a huge Robotech fan, but I agree with you, Harmney Gold needs to allow Macross to come to North America.
I learn more from video games and youtube (Except RUclips REWIND, THAT WAS TRASH) , than school
Press "x" to Shaun!
Been waiting for this one ever since I saw David Cage mention this on twitter
Why are you like this David
Sid Mier Civ author said "games are a set of interesting choices."
Let us hope so, as many players prefer this.
cool!
And I believe in you, David Cage. Thanks for all of your games.
I feel like if they showed the hostage part it woud have clicked more
I hate his games and think they're garbage, but even I can admit that the detective + hostage sequence is legitimately compelling. All his games start with a good scene, and then that's about it.
This guy is so delusional it's actually quite adorable.
How about story, which is generated dynamically, on the fly, without sence and, maybe, whithout the end and logic like our life itself?
Извините, а где русские субтитры? Немного обидно.
*EMOTIONS*
where is italian subtitles?