Time Inversion IS Tenet's premise. If you don't get it, that on you. If you kept questioning on how it all works with the timeline, that means Nolan got through you.
For me, I think the "WTF were they thinking" moment with Tenet wasn't so much the premise as the budget... while I'm sure it landed with many viewers (it kind-of did with me, but not entirely), you can get away with the confusing time-bending stuff a lot more easily with smaller, more niche productions like Memento and Primer, rather than the $200M tentpole they attempted that would need to woo the mainstream popcorn-munchers to be considered a success. In my opinion, it wasn't quite a case of the studios coming giving an auteur enough rope to hang themselves with, but it came close.
For Planet of the Apes, the novel ends with his return to earth (Paris), when he lands in front of the Eiffel Tower the police arrive and they are apes. So, while Ape-raham Lincoln was a bit too on the nose, the end was a bit more faithful to the source material.
"Ape-raham Lincoln" comes up often in RUclips bad-twist videos. No one ever mentions that, while admittedly a bad twist, it is reasonably true to the novel's ending (The Monkey Planet). It is NOT like Tim Button made it up himself.
As someone who watched the arrowverse damn near in it's entirety bc those were tv shows they obviously had way more time to flesh out their universes compared to the movies. That's y I low-key looked at the arrowverse as the definitive live action dc universe. Imo so it's understandable how their multiverse events were better bc they had like 4 to 6 shows to balance them out with. Still awesome they got the do crisis on infinite earths and earth x and invasion and elsworlds not bad for the small screen.
Supposedly he made the movie for his daughter. If I was his daughter I'd change my name because its obvious my dad doesn't give a shit about me. How do you so thoroughly and completely butcher the mythos of the show you're adapting?
Better question would be what was he thinking when he made the decision to change how bending worked, I remember an interview where he thought it should be that the movements are kind of charging up the bending and then it's eventually released. That's what has led to that ridiculous scene. The movie is full of "WTF where they thinking" decisions, like if you are limited in what episodes from the show you portray and don't have the budget to show a proper earthbender prison, why would you have that part in the story at all.
Earth benders in the cartoon was able to move tectonic plates and cause tsunamis and earth quakes..just one of them can do that So 5 of them can barely lift a small rock in the film?
@@Chuck_EL I couldn't fvcking breathe for several minutes, my cat was freaking out 🤣🤣🤣 I later learned that supposedly the 5 dudes were the ones who put the wall in front of Haru and his dad when fire was shot at them, and the dancing afterwards was just them finishing the bending move or something? And it was just the one dude moving and flinging the one small stone? Not sure I buy it, and either way it was horribly choreographed and shot to the point of hilarity.
I know a lot of kids that loved seeing Mater get the spotlight in Cars 2 and all the shorts that came after. I saw the movie as a great way to delvope Mater's relationship with Lighting.
The Palpatine one is just a slap in the face to every Star Wars fan. The universe literally has clones (a whole war involving them and everything) as well as (force) ghosts, and the best you can come up with is nothing.
thank frick this didn't happen in the 6 canon star wars movies - imagine if they'd tried to make a jarringly awful 7th/8th/9th and claim they were part of the same franchise!!
I get that Tenet is confusing, but not so bad that it's difficult to pronounce the title. Or is there a movie called Tenant somewhere that's just as ridiculous?
I didn’t have a problem with the Martha scene. It wasn’t just that their mothers shared the same name but that it humanized Superman to Bruce. Superman was more concerned with the life of his mother than his own. I believe this is what gave Bruce pause before he killed Superman.
THANK YOU! Someone else who has that idea. “Martha” got him to stop, because of the name. Then Bruce has time to figure things out, realising he was raised by humans, and therefore may not be the great threat he believes him to be.* “Martha” stays his hand, but it is Clark’s humanity that ultimately stops Bruce from striking. That this has been so derided, just goes to show how little thought people put in, when they watch movies. * Mind you, Bruce is correct, and an unchecked Superman will always be dangerous. Which is why I love Supes giving Bats some Kryptonite, to stop him if he ever does go bad. ** * Happens in the comics, and the DCAU - don’t actually remember if that happens in the DCU…
I agree. The Martha scene is not as bad as it is made out to be. Now I am just tired of the criticism of it as it is cliche to hate on it hence the downvote for this video.
@@Wolf359inc I have the very issue where Superman gave Batman the kryptonite ring in case he ever went rogue. Superman gave it to Bruce because he’s the only person Superman really trusts implicitly.
@@Wolf359inc Do...do you actually think people didn't see this?? this is obvious stuff. It's STILL stupid. Why does clark say MARTHA?? it's his god damn mother! It's a sloppy execution for a seasoned director to make. And it all stemms from how they just NEEDED the heroes to be hateful towards eachother.
No. We get it. We know what the intention was. But intention doesn't excuse the bad direction of the scene or the awful writing of the scene of the scene. It's a shame because both Cavill and Afleck brought their A game. And they proved that even great acting can't make up for terrible writing and poor direction.
I Loved the cameos in The flash. It completely explained the continuity mess that the DCmovie universe is, compared to Marvel AND it Blames this Flash for it! And using Clooney's Batman in the end removes Ezra Miller's Flash from the current DC continuity, considering how problematic Ezra Miller has become.
I had no problems with the cameos in The Flash. In a way, I see it as DC paying tribute to the previous protrayals of those characters who are no longer with us. Sure, the CGI was very dodgy, but it didn't take away from my enjoyment of the movie.
Cannot agree with Tenet.. the movie was awesome many people understood it.. and it was an awesome movie with a very complex theme explained in a very good away..
I actually liked the cameos in Flash ,i think it was great nostalgia and just brought back the best parts of our childhoods and even comfort us that even though reeves and west are gone physically they are still here in spirit and thier legacies continue in the multiverse .
In defense of the people that cast Ray Winston, hardly anybody complained about the Russian captain of Red October (Marko Ramius, played by Sir Sean Connery) having a Scottish accent.
It's because for some reason people just love Connery even though he's not a character actor. Everything he plays is the same. Including his Scottish Spaniard and his Scottish Russian man.
@@erikthompson619 I think it’s kinda unfair to expect a superhero movie to be more realistic than a Cold War military thriller based on a Tom Clancy novel.
I disagree with Remember Me... once you find out the ending it was super sad. I dont think they were capitalizing on or exploiting the tragic event but wanted to provoke a shock factor
I liked Remember me. That twist at the end got me. I don't think it was insulting, for me it was more an homage to all those who died. A bit like the unknown soldier representing all those who fell during different wars.
I liked The Flash, and I loved the cameos at the end. It was an ode to their appearances in anything DC. You don't have to take these scenes to heart, just enjoy them for that they were, nostalgia.
Agree I think most of the GenX age group I’ve talked to liked them problem is most of the people that complain about them didn’t grow up with them to feel the nostalgia
@@kohlerxxx I don't know, I stopped watching The Flash TV series about 3 years ago. But when I saw the movie, and saw Christopher Reeves there, I about had a tear. He is Superman to me, in my childhood. These critics, many of them weren't born then. It meant something to me, and to many other people too.
@@Robert-up1yi Exactly, Christopher Reeves is Superman, to me. And even when Nick Cage was there, I enjoyed that too. But you're right, they didn't feel the nostalgia
In BvS, the Martha scene is pretty low on the list of things wrong with that movie. You can start with replacing the whiny, sniveling Lex Luthor, and continue by cutting the entire third act with Doomsday…. Honestly, there’s so much more, but “Martha” is hardly the most WTF part of that movie.
They needed Lex to be unassuming. I mean that he doesn’t seem to be a man with a plan. Eisenberg certainly isn’t what we deserved, but the focal point was the fight between Superman and Batman. His Lex facilitated that. Practically gave Batman all the breadcrumbs to follow and steal the kryptonite. Lex always had it out for Superman, whether it was to create a legion of doom or an (almost) Superman proof battle suit, but to put two heroes in the ring is some Don King type shit. Kinda like what Baron Zemo did with iron man vs cap and ws.
I loved the Flash and the Cameo's. And the ending with Clooney was classic! Means he is going to have to put those tomatoes back on the bottom shelf. Lol
I agree with all of these except cars 2, I genuinely loved that movie. It was dark, had a great villain and the protagonist wins because everyone assumes him to be an idiot just because he’s never been outside his home town. Also, I figured out who the villain was the same way mator did because of my knowledge of cars. I felt so validated
Maybe I need to get to Specsavers for a hearing test but I'm pretty sure you referred to Christopher Nolan's Tenet as TENANT......TWICE!!........in fact 4 times if i`m correct ?.
the planet of the apes reboot was a temporal paradox story. Walberg thought he was traveling to the future but in actuality was traveling to the past (5021 BC). The station which entered the anomaly after him when further into the past (1000 years) and their descendants (children of Semos) were who he was meeting. When he returned to the present he was returning to the corrupted timeline.
You think having deceased actor cameos in The Flash was the biggest "WTF were they thinking?" part of that movie? How about the absolutely horrid CGI and them thinking that was ok?
I know, right? I haven't seen the movie, yet I could tell the CGI was bad just by watching the clips they showed. And it has too really be bad for ME to notice! Lol!
I actually liked the cameos in the movie, just not the way there were executed re: horrid CGI, and then for the director to double down and say "that's the way it's supposed to look because it's what he sees in the time stream" was just idiotic.
Yeah. The whole reason why those cameos were bad was because of the terrible CGI. If the CGI was better or if CGI wasn't used for Nicholas Cage, those cameos could have become a fan favorite point of the film. We finally get to see Christopher Reeve and Helen Slater on the same screen. Too bad it was all ruined by the bad CGI. I can excuse the CGI on the still images in the Chronobowl as illustrations in the timeline, but not when we are seeing glimpses into those other universes. They had Nicholas Cage. They didn't have to make him look like an Xbox 360 character.
Look, I will defend the Martha scene. When Superman said Martha, Batman thought he was talking about his mom. When Supes said “You’re letting them kill Martha” he thought Supes was mocking him for being the reason his parents are dead. When Lois told Bats that it was Superman’s mom’s name, Batman stopped to think “He’s valuing a human’s life over his own even when he’s about to die, and it’s his mother no less.” In that moment Bats realized that Superman might be more human than he thought
How about the "she has help" scene in Avengers Endgame, in a movie where all the Avengers were are fighting side by side and then they shoe horned that scene in was beyond cringe
Well there was a damn good reason. Rian Johnson killed Snoke for a cheap "subversion of expectations" so they were forced to "somehow" resurrect Palpatine
The whole Palpatine plot killed the movie for me (though the scavenger hunt and sidelining Rose didn't help either). It always felt like they were taking away from what the heroes accomplished in the original trilogy. Plus him somehow coming back with a hidden fleet of destroyer, all with the power to destroy planets like the Deathstar, was just too much.
@@danflorian1984The entire issue was that the plot in the new trilogy wasn't even planned from very beginning. JJ Abrams makes bunch of "mystery boxes" for what even he didn't planned to ever find answer. The Force Awakening was just lazy rehash of The New Hope with bunch nostalgia bites.
@@ExtremeMadnessXBut the fans wanted a rehash of "A New Hope", a movie the fans hold as perfect in their eyes. They wanted Han, Luke, Leia and Chewie, and didn't want new characters they didn't know or want to care about. They wanted nostalgia and stuff from the original trilogy. Fact is, a lot of fans wouldn't watch the new films if Luke, Han and Leia weren't in them.
Aside from the CGI microwave baby in THE FLASH, I don't think the rest was enough to break my suspension of disbelief overall I think the approach on the CGI in the running scenes was similar to what was done for the VR world in "Ready Player One" The CGI characters in the cronoball scenes weren't meant to be real. I think they were meant to be echoes of the real ones. Like statues at an art museum Maybe it would've looked better if they had been done in monochrome Like the liquid metal holograms in MAN OF STEEL
Don't think you quite understood Batman v Superman... That scene showed Clarks human side that stuck a powerful cord in Bruce with his mother that had been murdered and the chance to save Clarks mother was like saving his own in a way.
I can think of other severe 'WTF Were They Thinking' films, like an origin story for the Xenomorph, or the unicorn scene in Blade Runner. Oh wait, 'WTF Was He Thinking'
The problem with the Flash cameos was that they only had a couple of them, most of whom passed. If they had also done Batman Who Laughs, Thomas Wayne, Night Wing, Man of Steel (Shaq), CW Flash, Henry Cavil, an animated version - even a live action Beyond. All if that would have gone over much better. The fact they focused on certain versions just made it seem insincere
I wasn't bothered by the "Martha" scene the only thing that I wished would have happened is Superman finally says it's "his mother". Instead of Louis running up to tell Batman.
Here’s a movie of mine that made *me* claim _”WTF Were They Thinking?”:_ *Spider-man 3 (2007)* a movie 🎦 that I couldn’t get my head round, by any standard.
I loved Spiderman 3, it was a great movie with a cool take on the "be careful what you wish for" trope. The Sam trilogy is the best Peter Parker Spiderman. I wished they could have made the 4th one like they planned
"Tasteless and offensive exploitation"... I don't know - many people all over the world didn't know a single person from the 9/11. Here you follow someone throughout the movie and relate and what not and then it hits you - it's a twist, but I think it also works pretty good with the message, and it gives you a more realistic and ironic reverse Forrest Gump moment.
Disagree about Tenet. I love it. I'll admit it has plot holes, but no where near as many as Inception. Hard to follow? Not nearly as hard as Primer. It was a love letter to time travel movies, and their fans like me appreciated it.
Human-cat hybrid costumes had been going on in stage productions of CATS for decades. the middle of Washington DC is a really stupid place to crash-land; if Tim Burton wanted to play tricks with an ape statue, he should have had a splash-down off Rio De Janeiro.
"Tenet" understood that the time inversion premise would be confusing. One of the characters pretty much looks at the audience and says, "Don't try to understand it, just go along for the ride." Where the film actually stumbles is that it's ALL premise and leaves little room for characterization and story.
I disagree. As much as I disliked Ezra Miller as the Flash, I don’t think the movie is bad like people saying it is. It does have its problems don’t get me wrong, but the story was entertaining and enjoyable.
Pretty sure I understand what Tim Burton was thinking when he created the terrible twist ending of his Planet of the Apes -- he was trying to more closely adapt the original book. It's just not an ending that can be translated to film any better than the twist in the first movie version.
Truthfully, I always saw the ending for a lead into a sequel. If I remember correctly, the original plan was to redo the whole series. I was a little excited to see how the story would continue, but of course all we got was disappointment.
You had me until Tenet. How the hell didn't you understand it? It's so basic and explained constantly throughout the movie in endless exposition. WTF were you thinking adding it to this list?
The bigger problem I had with the whole Martha scene was that both Clark and Bruce knew each other's secret identities. It seems unlikely that they would not also know the names of each other's mothers. Certainly Batman would be thorough enough to do a more detailed research on Clark Kent.
In college for my English Lit, we watched Brazil (Uncut European Version). After we watched it, TA told us that American Edit left out the last scene. That it had ended with hero riding happily off into the sunset with his girl. I practically yetled "WTF. I would've screamed because that ending made no sense." For me that one scene, made sense of the last 15 minutes of the movie. It was the culmination of everything he had gone through, the natural progression of the dreams that he had of himself and the reality of his circumstances. I was pissed at the editors and producers who would've made that cut.
I think a similar thing happened when The Clockwork Orange book was published in the US - the last chapter which changes the theme entirely was omitted. Then Kubrick made his movie based on the US version of the book.
All you have to do to get Tenet is twig that there is no time travel whatsoever. The clock always ticks, and everyone ages at the same speed, regardless of which way time is running (at the same speed) for them. A much bigger issue is why inverted air can’t be breathed but all other interactions between matter are fine - that was pointless.
the whole martha spiel wasn't really thought out... batman would've long known that superman is clark kent and his parents owns a farm... I'm so surprised that batsy never took the time to make a background check on sups... the movie's batman was so watered down in the whole detective aspect... heck even all the infos he had about the other justice league members was stolen from luthor... he couldn't figure anything out on his own, even had to steal the kryptonite... luthor did all the work... and he played everyone like pawns, even batsy
@@whatculture 😂😂 hehe - still love it and still love you Adam! Your vids and personality are what help make this channel be what it is! Keep them coming bud - Same for the rest of the team! 💪🏾🙌🏽
I've not seen Tenet. But it was clear from the synopsis explaining it involves time running both ways, that the name being a palindrome is important. Which makes the mistake of calling it Tenent even more unforgivable.
I've never seen 'Tenent', but I have seen 'Tenet' and although it was pretty confusing, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Not a WTF movie as far as I'm concerned.
Number 10 = Of all the small and huge problems with the Black Widow movie, Drakeov's accent was the choice for this list? Really? Seriously? WhatCulture, that choice makes ME ask you, "What the f--k!?" 🤦😡👎
I think its funny that you feature Black Widow to comment on Winstones casting, and not Kurylenkos. A lackluster accent hardly compares to the obviously larger, obviously male character suddenly being the much slighter Kurylenko in scenes where the helmet comes off.
I love Nolan's "Tenant"
His upcoming blockbuster after Oppentheimer 😂
Time Inversion IS Tenet's premise.
If you don't get it, that on you.
If you kept questioning on how it all works with the timeline, that means Nolan got through you.
For me, I think the "WTF were they thinking" moment with Tenet wasn't so much the premise as the budget... while I'm sure it landed with many viewers (it kind-of did with me, but not entirely), you can get away with the confusing time-bending stuff a lot more easily with smaller, more niche productions like Memento and Primer, rather than the $200M tentpole they attempted that would need to woo the mainstream popcorn-munchers to be considered a success. In my opinion, it wasn't quite a case of the studios coming giving an auteur enough rope to hang themselves with, but it came close.
It’s Tenet, not Tennent 😂
Not to be confused with tenant 😂😂
Tennant has a tenet about tenants
Brits going and adding extra letter again aluminium😂
I heard it is spelt "Tenent" so it can be the same word, whether spelt backwards or forwards.
@@dhenderson1810 if you spell Tenent backwards it’s tnenet- tenet is still tenet backwards though!
For Planet of the Apes, the novel ends with his return to earth (Paris), when he lands in front of the Eiffel Tower the police arrive and they are apes. So, while Ape-raham Lincoln was a bit too on the nose, the end was a bit more faithful to the source material.
I came here to comment this as well.
Truth
People don’t read; they barely watch consistently.
Was about to say that, then saw your comment. I find it annoying when the narrator doesn’t do any research before talking bollocks.
I think it is the execution of it that is problem.
Tenet is awesome and does an excellent job presenting an unusual form of time manipulation. Lazy to include it on this list
"Ape-raham Lincoln" comes up often in RUclips bad-twist videos. No one ever mentions that, while admittedly a bad twist, it is reasonably true to the novel's ending (The Monkey Planet). It is NOT like Tim Button made it up himself.
I think it is the execution of it that is the problem.
I just can't understand how the CW's Arrowverse had better multiverse cameos than a multimillion dollar movie.
@@RichardBenoit-q4z that’s Marvel, I think he’s referring to the flash, which is DC
@@RichardBenoit-q4z LMAO at confusing Marvel with DC. Your hate for Kathleen Kennedy has severely clouded your judgment.
@@RichardBenoit-q4zKathleen Kennedy is over Star Wars. Not Marvel or DC.🤦🤦🤦
As someone who watched the arrowverse damn near in it's entirety bc those were tv shows they obviously had way more time to flesh out their universes compared to the movies. That's y I low-key looked at the arrowverse as the definitive live action dc universe. Imo so it's understandable how their multiverse events were better bc they had like 4 to 6 shows to balance them out with. Still awesome they got the do crisis on infinite earths and earth x and invasion and elsworlds not bad for the small screen.
What a deranged and factually ignorant comment, @@RichardBenoit-q4z
@7:36 ah yes, who can forget the legendary motion picture film "Tenant"
The Last Airbender. Specifically the scene where they free the Earthbenders. Thank God I was home so I could pause, I could not stop laughing.
There is no Last Airbender movie in Ba Sing Se
Supposedly he made the movie for his daughter. If I was his daughter I'd change my name because its obvious my dad doesn't give a shit about me. How do you so thoroughly and completely butcher the mythos of the show you're adapting?
Better question would be what was he thinking when he made the decision to change how bending worked, I remember an interview where he thought it should be that the movements are kind of charging up the bending and then it's eventually released. That's what has led to that ridiculous scene.
The movie is full of "WTF where they thinking" decisions, like if you are limited in what episodes from the show you portray and don't have the budget to show a proper earthbender prison, why would you have that part in the story at all.
Earth benders in the cartoon was able to move tectonic plates and cause tsunamis and earth quakes..just one of them can do that
So 5 of them can barely lift a small rock in the film?
@@Chuck_EL I couldn't fvcking breathe for several minutes, my cat was freaking out 🤣🤣🤣
I later learned that supposedly the 5 dudes were the ones who put the wall in front of Haru and his dad when fire was shot at them, and the dancing afterwards was just them finishing the bending move or something? And it was just the one dude moving and flinging the one small stone? Not sure I buy it, and either way it was horribly choreographed and shot to the point of hilarity.
I'm surprised the dance scene from Spider-Man 3 wasn't mentioned.
I liked the first Cars but let's be honest, it was basically Doc Hollywood.
I know a lot of kids that loved seeing Mater get the spotlight in Cars 2 and all the shorts that came after. I saw the movie as a great way to delvope Mater's relationship with Lighting.
If the Cars in the Cars films don`t have passengers and are all alive/sentient.....Why do the cars need doors or a steering wheel ?.
I liked cars 2 because it was different to the rest of the car flims
The cars franchise is my favorite Pixar movies
The Palpatine one is just a slap in the face to every Star Wars fan. The universe literally has clones (a whole war involving them and everything) as well as (force) ghosts, and the best you can come up with is nothing.
I was visibly upset in the theater. "Suprise, I'm Rey's grandpa" lol like, what
The novelization revealed Palpatine to be a clone.
thank frick this didn't happen in the 6 canon star wars movies - imagine if they'd tried to make a jarringly awful 7th/8th/9th and claim they were part of the same franchise!!
@@spatrick1441 Um... It happened.
I get that Tenet is confusing, but not so bad that it's difficult to pronounce the title. Or is there a movie called Tenant somewhere that's just as ridiculous?
Maybe it's a movie about a landlord desperately trying to serve an eviction notice😝
Yes, and that movie stars a guy named May-tuh.
I still can't believe they hired Ezra as the Flash when he can't even run properly! Its so weird 😂
I know! That bugs me every time I see him run!
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@@Gerilyn2003don't you think he ran the way the director told him ?
@@Former_Employee I wouldn't be surprised since he made the CGI bad on purpose.
I didn’t have a problem with the Martha scene. It wasn’t just that their mothers shared the same name but that it humanized Superman to Bruce. Superman was more concerned with the life of his mother than his own. I believe this is what gave Bruce pause before he killed Superman.
THANK YOU! Someone else who has that idea. “Martha” got him to stop, because of the name. Then Bruce has time to figure things out, realising he was raised by humans, and therefore may not be the great threat he believes him to be.*
“Martha” stays his hand, but it is Clark’s humanity that ultimately stops Bruce from striking.
That this has been so derided, just goes to show how little thought people put in, when they watch movies.
* Mind you, Bruce is correct, and an unchecked Superman will always be dangerous. Which is why I love Supes giving Bats some Kryptonite, to stop him if he ever does go bad. **
* Happens in the comics, and the DCAU - don’t actually remember if that happens in the DCU…
I agree. The Martha scene is not as bad as it is made out to be. Now I am just tired of the criticism of it as it is cliche to hate on it hence the downvote for this video.
@@Wolf359inc I have the very issue where Superman gave Batman the kryptonite ring in case he ever went rogue. Superman gave it to Bruce because he’s the only person Superman really trusts implicitly.
@@Wolf359inc Do...do you actually think people didn't see this?? this is obvious stuff. It's STILL stupid. Why does clark say MARTHA?? it's his god damn mother! It's a sloppy execution for a seasoned director to make. And it all stemms from how they just NEEDED the heroes to be hateful towards eachother.
No. We get it. We know what the intention was. But intention doesn't excuse the bad direction of the scene or the awful writing of the scene of the scene. It's a shame because both Cavill and Afleck brought their A game. And they proved that even great acting can't make up for terrible writing and poor direction.
I Loved the cameos in The flash. It completely explained the continuity mess that the DCmovie universe is, compared to Marvel AND it Blames this Flash for it!
And using Clooney's Batman in the end removes Ezra Miller's Flash from the current DC continuity, considering how problematic Ezra Miller has become.
Thank you! I absolutely loved the cameos too, not to mention the MK Batman “Let’s get nuts” line. I actually enjoyed the film for the most part 🤔
Yeah, me too. This surprised me because this is the first time I've seen someone critical of those scenes.
Absolutely!!!
I had no problems with the cameos in The Flash. In a way, I see it as DC paying tribute to the previous protrayals of those characters who are no longer with us. Sure, the CGI was very dodgy, but it didn't take away from my enjoyment of the movie.
I had no intention of seeing Flash until I read this comment. Removes Ezras' Flash from the continuity you say? Suddenly gotta see.
Cannot agree with Tenet.. the movie was awesome many people understood it.. and it was an awesome movie with a very complex theme explained in a very good away..
I actually liked the cameos in Flash ,i think it was great nostalgia and just brought back the best parts of our childhoods and even comfort us that even though reeves and west are gone physically they are still here in spirit and thier legacies continue in the multiverse .
Same . I like the whole flash movie. It was very good.
In defense of the people that cast Ray Winston, hardly anybody complained about the Russian captain of Red October (Marko Ramius, played by Sir Sean Connery) having a Scottish accent.
People's accents don't bother me. I just watch a movie for popcorn and fun.
It's because for some reason people just love Connery even though he's not a character actor. Everything he plays is the same. Including his Scottish Spaniard and his Scottish Russian man.
*Lithuanian captain
Then again, his accent isn’t Lithuanian either lmao
That was OVER 30 YEARS AGO. Shouldn't we expect the overall standard for movie realism to have improved ever so slightly in that time?
@@erikthompson619 I think it’s kinda unfair to expect a superhero movie to be more realistic than a Cold War military thriller based on a Tom Clancy novel.
I disagree with Remember Me... once you find out the ending it was super sad. I dont think they were capitalizing on or exploiting the tragic event but wanted to provoke a shock factor
I liked Remember me. That twist at the end got me. I don't think it was insulting, for me it was more an homage to all those who died. A bit like the unknown soldier representing all those who fell during different wars.
I liked The Flash, and I loved the cameos at the end. It was an ode to their appearances in anything DC. You don't have to take these scenes to heart, just enjoy them for that they were, nostalgia.
Totally agree.
Agree I think most of the GenX age group I’ve talked to liked them problem is most of the people that complain about them didn’t grow up with them to feel the nostalgia
As another comment put it, the DC TV shows did better cameos
@@kohlerxxx I don't know, I stopped watching The Flash TV series about 3 years ago. But when I saw the movie, and saw Christopher Reeves there, I about had a tear. He is Superman to me, in my childhood. These critics, many of them weren't born then. It meant something to me, and to many other people too.
@@Robert-up1yi Exactly, Christopher Reeves is Superman, to me. And even when Nick Cage was there, I enjoyed that too. But you're right, they didn't feel the nostalgia
In BvS, the Martha scene is pretty low on the list of things wrong with that movie. You can start with replacing the whiny, sniveling Lex Luthor, and continue by cutting the entire third act with Doomsday…. Honestly, there’s so much more, but “Martha” is hardly the most WTF part of that movie.
I *cannot* understand that casting choice. It vexes me.
They needed Lex to be unassuming. I mean that he doesn’t seem to be a man with a plan. Eisenberg certainly isn’t what we deserved, but the focal point was the fight between Superman and Batman. His Lex facilitated that. Practically gave Batman all the breadcrumbs to follow and steal the kryptonite. Lex always had it out for Superman, whether it was to create a legion of doom or an (almost) Superman proof battle suit, but to put two heroes in the ring is some Don King type shit. Kinda like what Baron Zemo did with iron man vs cap and ws.
If you say “teneNt” instead of tenet one more time, I am gonna start screaming at my phone.
I loved the Flash and the Cameo's. And the ending with Clooney was classic!
Means he is going to have to put those tomatoes back on the bottom shelf. Lol
I agree with all of these except cars 2, I genuinely loved that movie. It was dark, had a great villain and the protagonist wins because everyone assumes him to be an idiot just because he’s never been outside his home town. Also, I figured out who the villain was the same way mator did because of my knowledge of cars. I felt so validated
I liked cars 2 because it was different to the rest of the car flims
Maybe I need to get to Specsavers for a hearing test but I'm pretty sure you referred to Christopher Nolan's Tenet as TENANT......TWICE!!........in fact 4 times if i`m correct ?.
the planet of the apes reboot was a temporal paradox story. Walberg thought he was traveling to the future but in actuality was traveling to the past (5021 BC). The station which entered the anomaly after him when further into the past (1000 years) and their descendants (children of Semos) were who he was meeting. When he returned to the present he was returning to the corrupted timeline.
You think having deceased actor cameos in The Flash was the biggest "WTF were they thinking?" part of that movie? How about the absolutely horrid CGI and them thinking that was ok?
I know, right? I haven't seen the movie, yet I could tell the CGI was bad just by watching the clips they showed. And it has too really be bad for ME to notice! Lol!
I actually liked the cameos in the movie, just not the way there were executed re: horrid CGI, and then for the director to double down and say "that's the way it's supposed to look because it's what he sees in the time stream" was just idiotic.
Yeah. The whole reason why those cameos were bad was because of the terrible CGI. If the CGI was better or if CGI wasn't used for Nicholas Cage, those cameos could have become a fan favorite point of the film. We finally get to see Christopher Reeve and Helen Slater on the same screen. Too bad it was all ruined by the bad CGI. I can excuse the CGI on the still images in the Chronobowl as illustrations in the timeline, but not when we are seeing glimpses into those other universes. They had Nicholas Cage. They didn't have to make him look like an Xbox 360 character.
Look, I will defend the Martha scene. When Superman said Martha, Batman thought he was talking about his mom. When Supes said “You’re letting them kill Martha” he thought Supes was mocking him for being the reason his parents are dead. When Lois told Bats that it was Superman’s mom’s name, Batman stopped to think “He’s valuing a human’s life over his own even when he’s about to die, and it’s his mother no less.” In that moment Bats realized that Superman might be more human than he thought
The worst part was how they had Luthor make Doomsday not the Martha scene!
Like your interpretation. But what we got was filth
Only people that understand batman truly can respect the scene. Batfleck was a great batman both the dark knight and bruce wayne
@@devinphillips9704 I know. I meant to say that 🤦🏼♂️
@@senio__Yeh he was
How about the "she has help" scene in Avengers Endgame, in a movie where all the Avengers were are fighting side by side and then they shoe horned that scene in was beyond cringe
I remember thinking "If they're bringing Palpatine back, there must be a damn good reason". Lol
Well there was a damn good reason. Rian Johnson killed Snoke for a cheap "subversion of expectations" so they were forced to "somehow" resurrect Palpatine
The whole Palpatine plot killed the movie for me (though the scavenger hunt and sidelining Rose didn't help either). It always felt like they were taking away from what the heroes accomplished in the original trilogy. Plus him somehow coming back with a hidden fleet of destroyer, all with the power to destroy planets like the Deathstar, was just too much.
@@danflorian1984The entire issue was that the plot in the new trilogy wasn't even planned from very beginning.
JJ Abrams makes bunch of "mystery boxes" for what even he didn't planned to ever find answer. The Force Awakening was just lazy rehash of The New Hope with bunch nostalgia bites.
@@ExtremeMadnessXBut the fans wanted a rehash of "A New Hope", a movie the fans hold as perfect in their eyes.
They wanted Han, Luke, Leia and Chewie, and didn't want new characters they didn't know or want to care about. They wanted nostalgia and stuff from the original trilogy.
Fact is, a lot of fans wouldn't watch the new films if Luke, Han and Leia weren't in them.
Didn't even try to say Tenet...
Yeah I mean.. backwards? forward? Get it?
Maybe he is a doctor who fan? There's only one n in Tenet.
I didn't realise Tenet was actually a David TENNANT biography. 😛
lol
Aside from the CGI microwave baby in THE FLASH, I don't think the rest was enough to break my suspension of disbelief overall
I think the approach on the CGI in the running scenes was similar to what was done for the VR world in "Ready Player One"
The CGI characters in the cronoball scenes weren't meant to be real. I think they were meant to be echoes of the real ones. Like statues at an art museum
Maybe it would've looked better if they had been done in monochrome
Like the liquid metal holograms in MAN OF STEEL
Mater was the lead in Cars 2 because people liked Mater's Tall Tales.
I liked cars 2 because it was different to the rest of the car flims
Don't think you quite understood Batman v Superman... That scene showed Clarks human side that stuck a powerful cord in Bruce with his mother that had been murdered and the chance to save Clarks mother was like saving his own in a way.
I can think of other severe 'WTF Were They Thinking' films, like an origin story for the Xenomorph, or the unicorn scene in Blade Runner. Oh wait, 'WTF Was He Thinking'
The problem with the Flash cameos was that they only had a couple of them, most of whom passed. If they had also done Batman Who Laughs, Thomas Wayne, Night Wing, Man of Steel (Shaq), CW Flash, Henry Cavil, an animated version - even a live action Beyond. All if that would have gone over much better. The fact they focused on certain versions just made it seem insincere
I wasn't bothered by the "Martha" scene the only thing that I wished would have happened is Superman finally says it's "his mother". Instead of Louis running up to tell Batman.
Clark did it intentionally, he knew that would trigger Bruce and it humanized Clark to him
Here’s a movie of mine that made *me* claim _”WTF Were They Thinking?”:_ *Spider-man 3 (2007)* a movie 🎦 that I couldn’t get my head round, by any standard.
how they did venom in spidey 3 was abysmal
I loved Spiderman 3, it was a great movie with a cool take on the "be careful what you wish for" trope. The Sam trilogy is the best Peter Parker Spiderman. I wished they could have made the 4th one like they planned
@@Breexbloodlust yea that’s true
the original spider-man 2 (I think) I can't stand
@@maxbracegirdle9990nope
I can’t argue any of the points in this list but I feel it was unnecessary because all of the things mentioned have been beat to death already
Flash was great, people think too much about the cameos, I loved then and felt a lot of nostalgia watching them
Want to see Darth Sidious coming back done right? Look up the Legends comics.
Oh yes, the famous Nolan movie: TENENT
The biggest WTF is this list: sounds petty.
I don’t understand the hate for Tenet. My wife and I watched it and we both understood what was going on, on the first viewing.
Tenet isn't a difficult word to pronounce.
"Tasteless and offensive exploitation"... I don't know - many people all over the world didn't know a single person from the 9/11. Here you follow someone throughout the movie and relate and what not and then it hits you - it's a twist, but I think it also works pretty good with the message, and it gives you a more realistic and ironic reverse Forrest Gump moment.
Disagree about Tenet. I love it.
I'll admit it has plot holes, but no where near as many as Inception. Hard to follow? Not nearly as hard as Primer. It was a love letter to time travel movies, and their fans like me appreciated it.
Human-cat hybrid costumes had been going on in stage productions of CATS for decades.
the middle of Washington DC is a really stupid place to crash-land; if Tim Burton wanted to play tricks with an ape statue, he should have had a splash-down off Rio De Janeiro.
"Tenet" understood that the time inversion premise would be confusing. One of the characters pretty much looks at the audience and says, "Don't try to understand it, just go along for the ride." Where the film actually stumbles is that it's ALL premise and leaves little room for characterization and story.
I liked all of the cameos in The Flash. I don't blast fun popcorn movies.
I disagree. As much as I disliked Ezra Miller as the Flash, I don’t think the movie is bad like people saying it is. It does have its problems don’t get me wrong, but the story was entertaining and enjoyable.
AND, WITH “TENET”, EVEN IF YOU TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE PLOT….YOU COULDNT HEAR THE DIALOGUE BECAUSE NOLAN DELIBERATELY MADE IT SO YOU COULDNT HEAR IT!!!😊
Independence Day Resurgence
So much of a WTF that I struggle watching the original 😢
that was a one & done
@@BreexbloodlustYet people asked for a sequel for years.
The biggest WTF moment would surely be why is the narrator calling Tenet Tenant.
The Flash is on another level of cringe 😂
You should do a "10 actors who are box office poison" list with Ezra Miller at the top followed by Jared Leto and Amber Heard.
Just tell people you make all the "secret sauce" on the world
Anytime Ray Winstone is asked to do an accent is a WTF moment to me. Check out his accent in Fool's Gold as an even better example!
#1 is the EXACT kind of thing actors are picketing against...
I can completely explain tenet, you may STILL not understand 😅
Pretty sure I understand what Tim Burton was thinking when he created the terrible twist ending of his Planet of the Apes -- he was trying to more closely adapt the original book. It's just not an ending that can be translated to film any better than the twist in the first movie version.
Truthfully, I always saw the ending for a lead into a sequel. If I remember correctly, the original plan was to redo the whole series. I was a little excited to see how the story would continue, but of course all we got was disappointment.
@@kristinafrentz302 That is true, but you probably see what I'm saying if you read the book.
"Cars 2" wasn't Pixar's only stinker. There's also "The Good Dinosaur".
The Good Dinosaur have such wasted concept.
Brofeld in Spectre would be mine. How did that idea not get immediately shot down when it was pitched?
TENET, not TENANT.
WTF are you talking about Aperaham Lincoln *ROCKS*
Huh, I seem to ask this question every time I watch a new Disney, Marvel or Star Wars movie.
The W in wtf as it pertains to Cats stands for " why ", not what. As in why tf it ever made?!?!?!?!?!
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You had me until Tenet. How the hell didn't you understand it? It's so basic and explained constantly throughout the movie in endless exposition. WTF were you thinking adding it to this list?
The bigger problem I had with the whole Martha scene was that both Clark and Bruce knew each other's secret identities. It seems unlikely that they would not also know the names of each other's mothers. Certainly Batman would be thorough enough to do a more detailed research on Clark Kent.
Cats looks visually appealing.
Putting tenet here is crazy
The Flash has a few things I liked. Supergirl was hot, Michael Keaton, The funny Nick Cage as Superman moment. That was about it.
People dishin on flash 😂.. but idk i really enjoyed it. Won't mind rewatching few more time .
Cars 2 was a masterpiece and anyone who disagrees is dead wrong
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In college for my English Lit, we watched Brazil (Uncut European Version). After we watched it, TA told us that American Edit left out the last scene. That it had ended with hero riding happily off into the sunset with his girl. I practically yetled "WTF. I would've screamed because that ending made no sense." For me that one scene, made sense of the last 15 minutes of the movie. It was the culmination of everything he had gone through, the natural progression of the dreams that he had of himself and the reality of his circumstances. I was pissed at the editors and producers who would've made that cut.
I think a similar thing happened when The Clockwork Orange book was published in the US - the last chapter which changes the theme entirely was omitted. Then Kubrick made his movie based on the US version of the book.
Argh!
TEN-ET! TEN-ET! NOT TENNANT, TEN-ET! It's NOT about someone who lives in the apartment next to you.
they can say it how-ever they like
I liked Tenet and I understood it.
Anyone that tells you they fully understand the events of Tenant is probably lying to you.
@@zachtwilightwindwaker596 or they are just smarter than you....
@@goober5713 That was a quote from the video itself.
@@zachtwilightwindwaker596 I saw it when it first came out. I need to rewatch it.
I liked the flash and all the cameos
All you have to do to get Tenet is twig that there is no time travel whatsoever. The clock always ticks, and everyone ages at the same speed, regardless of which way time is running (at the same speed) for them. A much bigger issue is why inverted air can’t be breathed but all other interactions between matter are fine - that was pointless.
2 movies with Pattinson is not a coincidence
Come on man, Tenet was dope
Tenet was great.
the whole martha spiel wasn't really thought out... batman would've long known that superman is clark kent and his parents owns a farm...
I'm so surprised that batsy never took the time to make a background check on sups... the movie's batman was so watered down in the whole detective aspect...
heck even all the infos he had about the other justice league members was stolen from luthor... he couldn't figure anything out on his own, even had to steal the kryptonite... luthor did all the work... and he played everyone like pawns, even batsy
Tenet bruh not tenant
WTF was Adam thinking...right?! 👀🤭
@@whatculture 😂😂 hehe - still love it and still love you Adam! Your vids and personality are what help make this channel be what it is! Keep them coming bud - Same for the rest of the team! 💪🏾🙌🏽
@@gameaddictz327right
I guess I'm the only person who actually liked Morbius.
I actually want to really see it
Ten-et. Not Ten-ant.
I generally don't much care about mispronunciations but when you get another word completely, i gotta make the call.
Am i the only one who is hearing “Tenent”?
I've not seen Tenet. But it was clear from the synopsis explaining it involves time running both ways, that the name being a palindrome is important. Which makes the mistake of calling it Tenent even more unforgivable.
I've never seen 'Tenent', but I have seen 'Tenet' and although it was pretty confusing, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Not a WTF movie as far as I'm concerned.
lmao why does nick cage look like mini mike o'hearn 😂
The fake natty?
@@StanHalen1936lolol yes!
7:57 Entropy was being manipulated. The outcome was time perception. They say it in act one.
Number 10 = Of all the small and huge problems with the Black Widow movie, Drakeov's accent was the choice for this list? Really? Seriously?
WhatCulture, that choice makes ME ask you, "What the f--k!?" 🤦😡👎
the Cameos is Flash were awesome .
Regarding the Star Wars sequel trilogy: they weren't thinking, just trying to cash in on the franchise's fandom.
Lol: "cars is a great movie" 😂
Until I stop hearing "a cheeky subscribe" I will not be subscribing
I think its funny that you feature Black Widow to comment on Winstones casting, and not Kurylenkos. A lackluster accent hardly compares to the obviously larger, obviously male character suddenly being the much slighter Kurylenko in scenes where the helmet comes off.
Thought the cameos in The Flash were great and I liked them. It was a thoroughly enjoyable movie despite the awful CGI.
I actually really like Cars 2, and I think it is underrated. I think it is better then third movie, which just trashed Lightning McQueen.