Viddal acts at 7:40 to 8:30 is how some of us feel. Some party preach let the fan have the big fights but goddamn the back and forth is became too long.
I have to agree with Viddal. When Jake VS Ksi is done. The hype of crossover goes down significantly. There are no mega fights to make after Jake VS KSI.
Tbh I also think the longer it drags; the harder it'll become for both JJ and Jake. The anxiety will just continue to build, especially with the pressure/expectations increasing.
I think it’s very simple. Misfits is trying to build potential mega fights with ksi after jake Paul is done. Salt papi being the poster boy. Because once ksi vs jake Paul is done. That is an end of an era. From the beginning, 3rd of February 2018 to ksi vs jake Paul, that’s gonna conclude this chapter and sealed once in for all
This is problem that the pro boxing scene has had for ages now, and what the influencer scene has been so sick at doing - getting the fights that the fans actually want to see to happen. JJ and Jake are making it long now. That’s why mma is the goat 🐐.
I’ve been over the Jake & KSI beef for a while now. Jake used to be dislikable a few years back when he was childish, but he’s grown up since then and is mentally a different person. He doesn’t really do anything to make me dislike him anymore.
The problem is JJs whole thing is just trying to outdo and top Jake. Jake Paul, don't give a damn about what JJ is doing. JJ is low-key obsessed with being better than Jake... but won't just fight him.
Loved this video! 😂. Yea it's up to the other fighters/promotors to create the future stars so that influencer boxing can continue to grow and be around long term. KSI and Jake need to fight already. It's been dragging on too long, and the longer it goes, the longer people will lose interest. I mean people would still be satisfied to see it, but best to do it now while the hype and excitement are at its peak.
I think when the fight happens crossover might drop a bit in terms of interest as the big built up fight jj vs jake will be done but whoever wins will be a target for everyone else to build towards/if ksi vs Jake ends in decision the loser may feel as if they want a rematch aswell
Bro I ve been watch influencer boxing since 2018 and witnessed KSI call out the Paul bros live it’s insane how this been going on since before quarantine and it still hasn’t happened yet they both go out and fight anyone except eachother 🤦♂️
You guys are so real man and I pretty much agree with everything you guys said. KSI and mams are always talking about building up their fighters but they are do anything practical about it to help build them. Things like you guys said roster list and their weight, belt holders, a league on their website would be so useful. Also things like mini docs and in person face 2 faces would help, if Misfits wants this scene to last they need to work on their promotion tactics.
@@konan37 exactly, and now they have all been given a platform to facilitate that. Misfits and JJ cannot do all of that by themselves, that’s what essentially differentiates cross-over (formerly RUclips influencer) boxing from traditional boxing.
This is the fans opinion summed up in one video. I am helllla bored of hearing about Jake vs KSI to the point that I don't even care about the fight now and will probably just pirate it. They just need to hurry up and make it happen.
As an influencer boxning scene the influencers still need to be influencers and promote themselves alongside the promtion. Legit KSI, Salt Papi, Logan Paul, and others like them bring attention to themselves and the promotion because they post consistently.
Is it a case of where KSI vs Jake is the Pacquiao/Maywether fight we can only hope for something like Cordina vs Rhakimov, something that isn't necessarily a pull to the general public but to the fans was an amazing bout? Or could we recreate that mega fight feeling over years if the influencer boxing scene can last? E.g. when Tyson returned and had an incredible trilogy with Wilder or shock upsets like Joshua/Ruiz? There are levels to this how engaging can the fight be question
The ksi and jake fight is getting dragged out because of the contract. Jake doesn’t like the contract. Weight, hydration clause.. everything. you can tell on some of the tweets when they go back and forth. To me I think they should meet in the middle for weight with no hydration clause so neither one can give an excuse on why they lost and call it a day. One of these days a lot of people are going to get bored of it.
The main problem with influencer boxers is that the new generation KSI’s, Jake Paul’s etc are so obsessed with RUclips they don’t have time for other stuff. Mr Beast ain’t ever stepping in the ring, Airrack isn’t, Ryan Trahan isn’t, Niko etc etc. This scene is desperate for either speed, Kai or jidion to step in and become the next ksi level influence in this scene
Problem is, KSI’s team and even Jake himself said he turned down the KSI offer. August and December. So what does JJ do? Beat Joe then chill until 2024? He gotta be active
I do agree they need to fight soon BUT difference is to real fighters leaving it too late. Real fighters go out their primes an fight. Jake an KSI are still learning, still progressing. They're only going to get better for possibly a better fight. If that makes sense, my opinion though.
ksi vs jake paul is just the finael of phase 1 of influencer boxing, there will be a period after where it simmers down but there will always and always emerge new superstars and the scene will keep evolving and ksi vs jake may well not even be the biggest fight we see, who knows what might happen in the next 5, 10, even 20 years. we need to be patient because this is literally just the birth and we are in a period where we see huuundreds of new competitors enter the scene every month looking to enter the ring in contrast to the beginning where it was more or less just ksi and joe weller and a few more testing it out on the undercards
The real storyline. Tommy beats JJ, then beat Jake Again by KO. 2 years later. Viddal is world Champion. Tommy challenge Viddal and Viddal beats him by KO in the 9th round in a 12 round fight.
Jake vs JJ two will be just as big or bigger depending how competitive it is the first time. Conor Mcgregor eventually has to box Jake or JJ too no? that would be huge.
Misfits needs to better pre fight promotions. The online face 2 face ain't it. Have a mini embedded like thing for the card. Not 7 days. Just 1, 2 days for now covering the Press Conference and Weigh in days. The current promotion is meh. Kingpyn had a good buildup.
At this point tbh I couldn’t care less bout Jake vs KSI cuz it’s been going on for to long ….. and atm I don’t see it happening ever. I think that the only time the fight would have happened was back in 2020 after the gib fight if covid wasn’t a thing! But I don’t see it happening anymore. Personally tho I understand why they might be dragging it out as they both have a lot to lose as in my opinion it’s still a 50-50 fight and I don’t care what anyone says cuz that’s what I think
Imo I wanna see Tommy Vs KSI I really do, I rather see KSI Vs Tommy then Jake Vs Tommy 2 KSI should fight Tommy in August will most likely Lose I don’t see him Beating Tommy at all 😅 after that lose Jake will be “Confident” KSI vs Jake in December boom both have a lose to a actual pro boxer 🤷🏽♂️
I couldn’t care less about Tommy Fury tbh. That fight wouldn’t even be entertaining. At this point they should just make it happen between KSI and Jake.
The only people that would care to watch that fight are youtube fans the boxing purists will call fury clown if he goes fighting youtubers so I see no way that it sells or generates as much money or hype as jake vs fury coz jake had all boxing purists ,mma fans and combat fans in general wanting to see him lose and see him fight a real boxer at his age,height and weight. Unless ksi beats fury then his stocks goes up and he'll be recognized by combat sports world but it forsure will not come close to the sells of paul vs fury.
You know what it is, I think Misfits is seriously understaffed. It seems like it’s Mams, Chris Ridgeway and a few other guys but they need much more manpower to build the scene the way it needs. I’m talking social media execs, video editors, web designers, videographers etc.
It hasn’t been about a warmup for a while now, KSI expects the hype for influencer boxing to die down after he fights Jake, and wanted to hype his boxing organization (and it’s fighters) up before that happens. He was talking about a Jake fight in december but I’m assuming Jake’s loss to Tommy got him worrying about the hype around the fight earlier than expected
The Misfits don (I don’t even know his name), his manager best not be stopping this JJ fight from happening. You see how we were saying Eddie didn’t want AJ fighting Fury? That’s what I can see happening. That don will want Misfits to bang and not fall under the bridge IF JJ loses….
honestly yeah, after ksi get's past joe the ksi vs jake fight should happen then winner should fight fury would be a nice way to wrap up yt boxing, fury gets another bag n we geta good ending
this is in ksi's hands, first it was about beating jake and then when jake lost it's about beating the best around in the boxing scene and then he goes back and forth between his intentions like brotha, jake's level has been determined, go for the guy who won vs jake and don't fight jake ksi's mistake is he keeps on wanting to box someone who lost and is very careful about his next few fights so of course he wouldn't want to risk losing twice in a a row it's like why do you keep going to the well when there is no water there?? move on jj, move on, jake cares so much about not losing again, you said you want to take on whoever wins from tommy vs jake why do you want to fight the guy who lost the fight?
Imagine.. we wait until December, and then a trailer drops.. Black screen, fade into a table centered in the room. Jake walks in and sits down on one side, a little later JJ walks in and sits on the other.. Jake: “So… are we finally doing this thing?” Jj: “You bet.”
by the time ksi vs jake paul happens, ksi will be the same age as paul's previous opponents, and will be looked at as another 'old man' on jakes resume😂
I agree but viddal is also being hypocritical he said jj needs to stay active. But wants jj to only fight jake after joe. What happens when jake after nate goes to fury? Is ksi ment to stay away from boxing for a year?
@@ekko6209 hes but thats not ksis decision he wanted jake in August but jake said no. Jake after nate will go for fury in December so do u want ksi to wait for a year?
Love that they're completely central about it, keeping it 100%
Viddal acts at 7:40 to 8:30 is how some of us feel. Some party preach let the fan have the big fights but goddamn the back and forth is became too long.
I have to agree with Viddal. When Jake VS Ksi is done. The hype of crossover goes down significantly. There are no mega fights to make after Jake VS KSI.
then why u want it to make it rn? for Misfits to make less money? it makes less sense money wise
@@robinkandra6855 it makes sense because the hype has already started to go down, especially with Jake losing against Tommy fury
@@frieza2235everyone's being too respectful, deen vs walid is only beef fight besides jake ksi
@@frieza2235 it started dying in 2019 when ksi put boxing on pause
A new mega fight will come about eventually
We all wish we had a friendship like these two
We? I already do
@@kamuishortsgamer3728 ur lucky
@@ekko6209 Nah cuz I want more than one
@@kamuishortsgamer3728 me and you :)
nah u just lonely
I agree with Vidal in that once that fight happens, the bubble bursts. So it's in everyone but the fan's interest to keep that fight from happening
Let them know lads
let them cook
Quite boy it's way past your bedtime
@@nkosindiphilejama6399 there's always one!
Tbh I also think the longer it drags; the harder it'll become for both JJ and Jake. The anxiety will just continue to build, especially with the pressure/expectations increasing.
that’s how Pacquiao and Floyd felt towards the end of the build up too.
@@WishMount pretty much yeah
Leon went in on Nate. 😂😂😂 ‘he’s fucked man’ ‘he’s shot to bits’ 🤣🤣🤣 just kept going
"The walking dead" 🤣
just pure facts, who actually thinks nate will win
This feud is over half a decade old now and they STILL haven't fought
I really feel for those who have been wanting this fight since 2018
5 years waiting for this fight
@@Lamz04 13 wheb the callout happened and I am 19 in July
they are gonna take my whole teens
@@thetruesquad5059 I just turn 19
5 years😂
What events are people paying big money for that do not involve KSI, Jake, Logan, Nunes or Deji? none
These are the only big names right now
@@NamelessDealdon't forget the goat pineda
And swarmz
I doubt you knew about Nunes before the Kingpyn event. Similarly, there are more famous international people out there.
Exactly.
I think it’s very simple. Misfits is trying to build potential mega fights with ksi after jake Paul is done. Salt papi being the poster boy. Because once ksi vs jake Paul is done. That is an end of an era. From the beginning, 3rd of February 2018 to ksi vs jake Paul, that’s gonna conclude this chapter and sealed once in for all
This is problem that the pro boxing scene has had for ages now, and what the influencer scene has been so sick at doing - getting the fights that the fans actually want to see to happen. JJ and Jake are making it long now. That’s why mma is the goat 🐐.
Best boxing channel in the game, keeping it full stack always, come on Vidal and Leon
100% You can tell JJ wants the Jake fight next but Jake is defo playing Mind games. He has KSI In august but chose Nate then going to Tommy rematch
I’ve been over the Jake & KSI beef for a while now.
Jake used to be dislikable a few years back when he was childish, but he’s grown up since then and is mentally a different person.
He doesn’t really do anything to make me dislike him anymore.
Realest talks 👏🏾 you man are the coldest 😂
*25:07** MINUTES OF STR8 FAX*
Talk the talk all facts
06:03 “tournamat fournamat” - dunno why that made me crease 😭😭
The problem is JJs whole thing is just trying to outdo and top Jake. Jake Paul, don't give a damn about what JJ is doing. JJ is low-key obsessed with being better than Jake... but won't just fight him.
Viddal nvr dickrides JJ and that's y i love him for being real
Viddal and Leon don’t fw ksi like that, there’s a reason they have distanced themselves from him
@@grevengriff8609 what’s the reason?
@@ekko6209 hes waffling, hes a jake paul fanboy
@@grevengriff8609 thats not true, u dont know their relationship behind the scenes the way they talk about him shows they r still close
@@tsgrapiidz6970 facts
Viddal and Leon always speak facts on Ril & Wills and I love it 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I hear what Vidals saying still however, by knowing this it gives other people in the YT crossover field a chance to create a storyline
Loved this video! 😂.
Yea it's up to the other fighters/promotors to create the future stars so that influencer boxing can continue to grow and be around long term.
KSI and Jake need to fight already. It's been dragging on too long, and the longer it goes, the longer people will lose interest. I mean people would still be satisfied to see it, but best to do it now while the hype and excitement are at its peak.
Jake is the one dragging it now. KSI and Jake agreed on December but now Jake is switching up going for Nate and a potential rematch
these man keeping it so real in this hahaha
LOVE THESE VIDS. It had banter good insightful thoughts. Straight fire. Gets me thinking
I think when the fight happens crossover might drop a bit in terms of interest as the big built up fight jj vs jake will be done but whoever wins will be a target for everyone else to build towards/if ksi vs Jake ends in decision the loser may feel as if they want a rematch aswell
Bro I ve been watch influencer boxing since 2018 and witnessed KSI call out the Paul bros live it’s insane how this been going on since before quarantine and it still hasn’t happened yet they both go out and fight anyone except eachother 🤦♂️
If they took some of these ideas they would be long lasting and forever entertaining
Keeping it real as always
You guys are so real man and I pretty much agree with everything you guys said. KSI and mams are always talking about building up their fighters but they are do anything practical about it to help build them. Things like you guys said roster list and their weight, belt holders, a league on their website would be so useful. Also things like mini docs and in person face 2 faces would help, if Misfits wants this scene to last they need to work on their promotion tactics.
Bro jj shouldn't have to build the fighters they should build themselves. Jj never had anyone to build him up.
@@konan37 exactly, and now they have all been given a platform to facilitate that. Misfits and JJ cannot do all of that by themselves, that’s what essentially differentiates cross-over (formerly RUclips influencer) boxing from traditional boxing.
They are doing minidocs already
Slim vs Gib is a big fight
Yea them two just need to fight already ngl you guys are on point 🤣
This is the fans opinion summed up in one video. I am helllla bored of hearing about Jake vs KSI to the point that I don't even care about the fight now and will probably just pirate it. They just need to hurry up and make it happen.
Ksi and his team needs to stop sending fake contracts and bs clauses
@@grevengriff8609 yh cos jake paul is a perfect little angel
They need to build a Deji vs Salt Papi storyline
this has to be one of my favorite channels you lot are too funny 🤣🤣🤣
RUclipsr boxing coming full circle with real boxing, competing promotions & fighters being selective and lots of bureaucracy
Yeah KSI has especially been doing that.
These guys should be running crossover boxing hahaha
As an influencer boxning scene the influencers still need to be influencers and promote themselves alongside the promtion. Legit KSI, Salt Papi, Logan Paul, and others like them bring attention to themselves and the promotion because they post consistently.
Is it a case of where KSI vs Jake is the Pacquiao/Maywether fight we can only hope for something like Cordina vs Rhakimov, something that isn't necessarily a pull to the general public but to the fans was an amazing bout? Or could we recreate that mega fight feeling over years if the influencer boxing scene can last? E.g. when Tyson returned and had an incredible trilogy with Wilder or shock upsets like Joshua/Ruiz? There are levels to this how engaging can the fight be question
Ochocinco vs Leveon Bell
Leon “and whatnot” Wills
nice advice Ril and Wills
The ksi and jake fight is getting dragged out because of the contract. Jake doesn’t like the contract. Weight, hydration clause.. everything. you can tell on some of the tweets when they go back and forth. To me I think they should meet in the middle for weight with no hydration clause so neither one can give an excuse on why they lost and call it a day. One of these days a lot of people are going to get bored of it.
Finally someone had to say it. PREACH!!!
What’s funny is that if KSI actually beat Tommy, because Tommy is technically above Vidal on the ranks, KSI will be technically better than Vidal 😅
JJ doesnt beat Tommy let’s be real
The main problem with influencer boxers is that the new generation KSI’s, Jake Paul’s etc are so obsessed with RUclips they don’t have time for other stuff. Mr Beast ain’t ever stepping in the ring, Airrack isn’t, Ryan Trahan isn’t, Niko etc etc. This scene is desperate for either speed, Kai or jidion to step in and become the next ksi level influence in this scene
at this point it’s gonna be like amir khan vs kelle brooke the fight gonna be made after 17 years when their older 😂😂
6:03 tournamat fornamat
at the very least they are both young (in the game) and improving. The longer this goes the higher the level the fight would be skill wise
Problem is, KSI’s team and even Jake himself said he turned down the KSI offer. August and December. So what does JJ do? Beat Joe then chill until 2024? He gotta be active
The problem is ksi and his team sends fake contacts and bs clauses as Woodley exposed
he shouldnt fight tommy next cos he'll just get a pointless L
The unofficial CEOs of misfits
Slim should fight Blueface or Pineda
I do agree they need to fight soon BUT difference is to real fighters leaving it too late. Real fighters go out their primes an fight. Jake an KSI are still learning, still progressing. They're only going to get better for possibly a better fight. If that makes sense, my opinion though.
Spitting facts
ksi vs jake paul is just the finael of phase 1 of influencer boxing, there will be a period after where it simmers down but there will always and always emerge new superstars and the scene will keep evolving and ksi vs jake may well not even be the biggest fight we see, who knows what might happen in the next 5, 10, even 20 years. we need to be patient because this is literally just the birth and we are in a period where we see huuundreds of new competitors enter the scene every month looking to enter the ring in contrast to the beginning where it was more or less just ksi and joe weller and a few more testing it out on the undercards
let them lads know
Speaking for all of us here boys! We’ve been bored for the LONGEST now. Just fucking fight man 😴
The real storyline. Tommy beats JJ, then beat Jake Again by KO. 2 years later. Viddal is world Champion. Tommy challenge Viddal and Viddal beats him by KO in the 9th round in a 12 round fight.
Hello? Anesongib vs. Jake Rematch or Deji vs Jake Paul rematch. Then you have Salt Papi which needs a main event
These man are funnnyyy 😂
Yeah I don’t wanna see KSI Vs Tommy or Salt Papi, I just wanna see KSI Vs Jake Paul
Jake vs JJ two will be just as big or bigger depending how competitive it is the first time. Conor Mcgregor eventually has to box Jake or JJ too no? that would be huge.
KSI saying Jake gotta earn it to get the fight with him is craaaazy🤡
Gib vs slim is the next BIG FIGHT
Gib taking on Misfits next gonna be good too I guess? Gib Slim got something between them too right?
W vid u man tell em😂
A man said salvage whip😂😂
Misfits needs to better pre fight promotions. The online face 2 face ain't it. Have a mini embedded like thing for the card. Not 7 days. Just 1, 2 days for now covering the Press Conference and Weigh in days.
The current promotion is meh. Kingpyn had a good buildup.
At this point tbh I couldn’t care less bout Jake vs KSI cuz it’s been going on for to long ….. and atm I don’t see it happening ever.
I think that the only time the fight would have happened was back in 2020 after the gib fight if covid wasn’t a thing!
But I don’t see it happening anymore.
Personally tho I understand why they might be dragging it out as they both have a lot to lose as in my opinion it’s still a 50-50 fight and I don’t care what anyone says cuz that’s what I think
6:16
13:57
Bro the sucking his teeth while going "Theyre teeves, man!"
This man can do bo wrong
Misfits could use Salt Papi to bring in fans from the Philippines.
I dont even know at this point. I might as well fight jake myself
Imo I wanna see Tommy Vs KSI I really do, I rather see KSI Vs Tommy then Jake Vs Tommy 2 KSI should fight Tommy in August will most likely Lose I don’t see him Beating Tommy at all 😅 after that lose Jake will be “Confident” KSI vs Jake in December boom both have a lose to a actual pro boxer 🤷🏽♂️
I couldn’t care less about Tommy Fury tbh. That fight wouldn’t even be entertaining. At this point they should just make it happen between KSI and Jake.
The only people that would care to watch that fight are youtube fans the boxing purists will call fury clown if he goes fighting youtubers so I see no way that it sells or generates as much money or hype as jake vs fury coz jake had all boxing purists ,mma fans and combat fans in general wanting to see him lose and see him fight a real boxer at his age,height and weight. Unless ksi beats fury then his stocks goes up and he'll be recognized by combat sports world but it forsure will not come close to the sells of paul vs fury.
You know what it is, I think Misfits is seriously understaffed. It seems like it’s Mams, Chris Ridgeway and a few other guys but they need much more manpower to build the scene the way it needs. I’m talking social media execs, video editors, web designers, videographers etc.
Viddal REAL REAL REAL.Leon is real but aware of lose of money. Leon charge them for your ideas. Both of them right JUST FIGHT
9:40 too many man
I think ksi doesn’t want a warmup anymore. I think it’s Jake whose dragging it now…
It hasn’t been about a warmup for a while now, KSI expects the hype for influencer boxing to die down after he fights Jake, and wanted to hype his boxing organization (and it’s fighters) up before that happens. He was talking about a Jake fight in december but I’m assuming Jake’s loss to Tommy got him worrying about the hype around the fight earlier than expected
The Misfits don (I don’t even know his name), his manager best not be stopping this JJ fight from happening. You see how we were saying Eddie didn’t want AJ fighting Fury? That’s what I can see happening. That don will want Misfits to bang and not fall under the bridge IF JJ loses….
KSI can't wait on Jake Paul because Jake won't wait on him he'd fight another washed UFC fighter or he'd rematch tommy fury
honestly yeah, after ksi get's past joe the ksi vs jake fight should happen then winner should fight fury would be a nice way to wrap up yt boxing, fury gets another bag n we geta good ending
this is in ksi's hands, first it was about beating jake
and then when jake lost it's about beating the best around in the boxing scene
and then he goes back and forth between his intentions
like brotha, jake's level has been determined, go for the guy who won vs jake and don't fight jake
ksi's mistake is he keeps on wanting to box someone who lost and is very careful about his next few fights so of course he wouldn't want to risk losing twice in a a row
it's like why do you keep going to the well when there is no water there??
move on jj, move on, jake cares so much about not losing again, you said you want to take on whoever wins from tommy vs jake
why do you want to fight the guy who lost the fight?
Nah Leon is too funny 🤣
This fight has to happen in December but it seems unlikely cuz if jake wins against nate then he'll rematch fury.
Ahaha Ril and Wills the people keeping it the most real. JJ is a little sensitive, he might get offended at this ahaha
Salt papi vd gib would be a banger
Imagine.. we wait until December, and then a trailer drops..
Black screen, fade into a table centered in the room. Jake walks in and sits down on one side, a little later JJ walks in and sits on the other..
Jake: “So… are we finally doing this thing?”
Jj: “You bet.”
you bet? nah jj wouldn't be that nice to jake
@@thetruesquad5059 yeah i couldnt come up with anything better
by the time ksi vs jake paul happens, ksi will be the same age as paul's previous opponents, and will be looked at as another 'old man' on jakes resume😂
Both KSI and Jake dont want the fight both their brands cannot afford to take the L hence why its never happening.
💯💯💯
Welp, both of them lost to Tommy Fury. Jake said in his video, after the fight, that he wants to fight KSI at some point.
jake paul vs ksi reminds me of one piece
Throw this on the reddit
I agree but viddal is also being hypocritical he said jj needs to stay active. But wants jj to only fight jake after joe. What happens when jake after nate goes to fury? Is ksi ment to stay away from boxing for a year?
No he’s not he’s saying to fight jake
@@ekko6209 hes but thats not ksis decision he wanted jake in August but jake said no. Jake after nate will go for fury in December so do u want ksi to wait for a year?
@@patrickm406 I agree ksi should in the meantime stay active and fight Salt Papi or Slim, definitely not tommy tho if he wants too get his ass beat
Is Leon no longer training Deji?
He is
Mic blocking Leon's face too much
Walid bout to win the rematch