i own and operate my own auto repair business. Doing this DPF today and i found something even more helpful! You do not have to even lower the subframe at all. after you take the motor mount/ mount arm, all you have to do is remove the passenger side heat shield, with the heat shield removed you will just barely have enough space to wiggle the DPF all the way out. dont pull the subframe down, just pull the heat shield its much easier
Just completed this job on my 08 3.0SD! Firstly great video guys, very informative. Secondly this was not an easy job by any means of the imagination. It takes a lot of time and patience and a good knowledge of mechanics and certainly the right tools. Car is up and running and drives great. Still getting code 452A on the scanner but no DPF warning coming up whilst driving the car. Also replaced all vacuum lines, both thermostats and water pump as well as swirl flaps delete and EGR valve clean. EGR thermostat was stuck in open position, so hopefully this fixes the original problem. Cheers
@@denisovanhybrid9610 Hi. I am sorry to hear that the swirl flaps delete did not improve performance. Did you put blanking plates where the swirl flaps were? Because if you did not use blanking plates that would explain the poor low end performance and poor fuel economy.
@@denisovanhybrid9610 Sorry, I didn't explain myself mate. I was thinking that u may have cut the swirl flaps off and used the base as a blanking plate. But u did say that u put them back in so obviously u did not do that. When u took the swirl flaps off did you leave the vacuum actuator attached on the manifold and reattached the vacuum line? Or did you just blank off the vacuum line. I am thinking maybe a vacuum leak or possibly a crack in the manifold.
@@claudesandor4969 if there was a crack power wouldn’t have returned to normal after reinstalling; no vacuum leaks , I checked it thoroughly. I’ve gone back and forth a few times to make sure . When the flaps are closed at very low engine speed, it’s more responsive. Without flaps it needs more to get it going. Top end is the same. You can also detect the change in engine intake note as the flaps open up . I wanted to leave them out as it isn’t a huge difference for safety; but being the larger 32mm flaps they aren’t prone to failure like the early 22mm. In fact cannot find one failure of the 32mm . The other advantage to blanking may be it’s a better seal than having flaps .
I need to do this in my parking spot. Shop said need cat and dpf. Oh man thanks for the video! Have already done glow plugs, scr active tank sensor, fuel filter, throttle body. We owe 12k on our 2010 e70 X5d so I will need to do this repair. I will try to clean it possibly with a power washer
Hello, what did you end up doing? Were you successful by pressure washing? Was it a pain to get DPF out? I will have to do this too. My turbo seal blew out and oil bypassed into the exhaust. I replaced the turbo but now I would need to clean the exhaust including dpf, Just looking to see what are challenges? Thanks!
What's the price of that new dpf filter mounted, also the price of the labor replacing it, and how much km had that old dpf filter removed? If you're kind and have time to respond ✌️✌️✌️.
Might you post a video on dropping the rear subframe on an e53 X5? Or more specifically the quickest way to replace the subframe bushings without dropping the subframe. Thank you
Question ? What causes the dpf to fuxk up in Bmw disel is it cause the car driven in the city not driven with high rpm?? Should it be driven once a week on the highway to prevent this of accuring
That's one possible cause, but tbh there is usually an issue with something else on the engine. Glow plug codes won't allow active regens. Boost leaks from split hoses, intercooler damage, intercooler o-rings leaking, turbo intake seals leaking, all cause over fuelling which can overheat the dpf. If there is an issue with the egr, dpf regen won't work properly, as the egr operates by cooling down the in cylinder temps, which in turn cools the EGT down. So if the egr valve isn't sealing you can't get the EGT high enough to burn off the soot. Injectors are another possible cause. There is aassive scope to DPF diagnosis unfortunately, and it's too easy to blame the driving style without taking the rest into account. Even exhaust leaks and turbo charger failure needs to be considered.
@@FourRingsAuto I checked the DPF and it actually looks clean. Currently trying to remove it though to gut it. It's a real pain to do whilst lying on a wet floor with no light lol
wouldn't it had been easier to just use a engine support bar and remove the subframe bolts and lower a little bit. This just seem like so much can go wrong leaving the engine weight on the subframe.
Does this blockage in the exhaust make the car run rough because my car is is it was also cutting out out now and again which is just had a new high pressure fuel pump and did Drive beautiful for three weeks FRIEND said my cats are blocked
The N57 40d X5 has a different engine mount to this whereby there is no above nut to undo as its covered by a shield. it should pop out when the E bolts are out but there is no room above. Have you done this on an N57 as the engine mount when the body is 10cm up and DPF loose does not seem to want to move up enough to come out - DPF is in the way still which ironically I want to get off..... Doing this on ground with big axle stands and a load of jacks and ramps. Seems to me turbos are going to have to come off if I cannot move the mount. Am I missing something obvious and if so is it the fact that you need to split the round mount out of the alloy engine mount bracket (with pry bar perhaps) to get out? - Any sensible thoughts on this would be helpful as turbos are coming off if I don't progress....
@@FourRingsAuto Thanks for the reply....I see the hex bolt now, missed it on BMW TIS online but it is shown in the parts catalogue and as soon as you said this, I realised what needs doing. You cannot see this bolt under the car or easily from the top but it is there in parallel to the inner wing so another small ratchet or knuckle joint combination should see it gone and then the job should follow what you have done. Fingers crossed.
Step for step one done this today, the engine mount with the 18mm just won’t come apart!!!!! Have I missed something. I’ve taken out 3 bolts and the big 18mm nut. Stuck now. Keep thinking there’s a bolt I’ve missed????????
The only other way you could remove it without dropping the subframe, would be to remove the turbo and exhaust manifold. Lowering the subframe is easier and faster.
No the ecu restricts power because there is a high pressure before the dpf due to it being blocked with soot. The reason it is bypassing is it has likely gotten too hot, which is also likely the reason the dpf is blocked. Heat comes from excess fuel, soot also comes from fuel. So over fuelling either due to poor injector control, a boost or air leak after the MAF, etc.
If the dpf was clean, then yes. But like i have previously explained, if it is bypassing it's likely it's suffered thermal shock. The front DOC is then clogged with soot that a normal regen won't burn off. The back pressure can exceed 1 bar at full load, but this is a massive restriction. The dpf could be cleaned, but there's no point when it is bypassing and no effective. Soot in the tailpipe indicates to anyone inspecting the car that the dpf has been removed or isn't working.
This was dpf replacement not dpf delete, i don't do those as it's a federal offence here in Australia. You can easily tell if a car doesn't have a functional dpf, just by checking the tailpipes for soot. So they can easily see if u don't have one, even if it passes the emissions test.
From memory i had the dpf unbolted and pushed it all the way upwards to get access. Think i used wobble extensions too to bring the ratchet out the side of the subframe. It was a while ago.
@@FourRingsAuto That's insane. Thankfully, I live in the USA and not the Orwellian dystopia they call the UK. Thank you for making the video, though. I certainly appreciate it.
i own and operate my own auto repair business. Doing this DPF today and i found something even more helpful! You do not have to even lower the subframe at all. after you take the motor mount/ mount arm, all you have to do is remove the passenger side heat shield, with the heat shield removed you will just barely have enough space to wiggle the DPF all the way out. dont pull the subframe down, just pull the heat shield its much easier
Is the heat shield easier to remove? I'm in the process of doing this job rn
@@BlankChip. did you got this figured out?
@dudedatluvgtrs yeah, I removed the heat shield and the dpf was able to be nudged through
Just completed this job on my 08 3.0SD! Firstly great video guys, very informative. Secondly this was not an easy job by any means of the imagination. It takes a lot of time and patience and a good knowledge of mechanics and certainly the right tools. Car is up and running and drives great. Still getting code 452A on the scanner but no DPF warning coming up whilst driving the car.
Also replaced all vacuum lines, both thermostats and water pump as well as swirl flaps delete and EGR valve clean. EGR thermostat was stuck in open position, so hopefully this fixes the original problem. Cheers
I deleted swirl flaps - then put them back as low engine response was reduced when I deleted and fuel ⛽️ consumption increased without the flaps
@@denisovanhybrid9610 Hi. I am sorry to hear that the swirl flaps delete did not improve performance. Did you put blanking plates where the swirl flaps were? Because if you did not use blanking plates that would explain the poor low end performance and poor fuel economy.
@@claudesandor4969 of course I blanked them; they’d be six holes 🕳 in the manifold otherwise…
@@denisovanhybrid9610 Sorry, I didn't explain myself mate. I was thinking that u may have cut the swirl flaps off and used the base as a blanking plate. But u did say that u put them back in so obviously u did not do that.
When u took the swirl flaps off did you leave the vacuum actuator attached on the manifold and reattached the vacuum line? Or did you just blank off the vacuum line.
I am thinking maybe a vacuum leak or possibly a crack in the manifold.
@@claudesandor4969 if there was a crack power wouldn’t have returned to normal after reinstalling; no vacuum leaks , I checked it thoroughly. I’ve gone back and forth a few times to make sure . When the flaps are closed at very low engine speed, it’s more responsive. Without flaps it needs more to get it going. Top end is the same. You can also detect the change in engine intake note as the flaps open up . I wanted to leave them out as it isn’t a huge difference for safety; but being the larger 32mm flaps they aren’t prone to failure like the early 22mm. In fact cannot find one failure of the 32mm . The other advantage to blanking may be it’s a better seal than having flaps .
I need to do this in my parking spot. Shop said need cat and dpf. Oh man thanks for the video!
Have already done glow plugs, scr active tank sensor, fuel filter, throttle body. We owe 12k on our 2010 e70 X5d so I will need to do this repair. I will try to clean it possibly with a power washer
Hello, what did you end up doing? Were you successful by pressure washing? Was it a pain to get DPF out? I will have to do this too. My turbo seal blew out and oil bypassed into the exhaust. I replaced the turbo but now I would need to clean the exhaust including dpf, Just looking to see what are challenges?
Thanks!
What's the price of that new dpf filter mounted, also the price of the labor replacing it, and how much km had that old dpf filter removed? If you're kind and have time to respond ✌️✌️✌️.
This should be fun to do while lying on the floor outside
im worried about this for myself looking at a 2016 x5 diesel LOL.........................................................
Where are you guys located and what do tou charge for this job ?
Might you post a video on dropping the rear subframe on an e53 X5? Or more specifically the quickest way to replace the subframe bushings without dropping the subframe. Thank you
There is a tool available that allows you to do one side at a time from memory with out removal of the subframe.
Google HCB-A1258. If is an aftermarket version of the genuine tool part number 33 31 6 770 454.
Question ? What causes the dpf to fuxk up in Bmw disel is it cause the car driven in the city not driven with high rpm?? Should it be driven once a week on the highway to prevent this of accuring
That's one possible cause, but tbh there is usually an issue with something else on the engine. Glow plug codes won't allow active regens. Boost leaks from split hoses, intercooler damage, intercooler o-rings leaking, turbo intake seals leaking, all cause over fuelling which can overheat the dpf. If there is an issue with the egr, dpf regen won't work properly, as the egr operates by cooling down the in cylinder temps, which in turn cools the EGT down. So if the egr valve isn't sealing you can't get the EGT high enough to burn off the soot. Injectors are another possible cause. There is aassive scope to DPF diagnosis unfortunately, and it's too easy to blame the driving style without taking the rest into account. Even exhaust leaks and turbo charger failure needs to be considered.
Four Rings Auto heard change glow plugs and problem should be fine .. well depends what sort of issue there is Anwyas
Surely the tailpipes will fill with soot once it regenerates though?
No
@@FourRingsAuto The X5 i'm working on has a DPF and the tailpipes are covered in soot
Bypassing. Unbolt the exhaust from the dpf next to the transmission. Look at the back of the dpf. There will be soot bypassing some of the core.
@@FourRingsAuto I checked the DPF and it actually looks clean. Currently trying to remove it though to gut it. It's a real pain to do whilst lying on a wet floor with no light lol
wouldn't it had been easier to just use a engine support bar and remove the subframe bolts and lower a little bit. This just seem like so much can go wrong leaving the engine weight on the subframe.
That’s how I did this job.
the indicator keeps on tell me with you solved your problem i have the carly tool and i said i have a fault 00480A 00481A thanks
Does this blockage in the exhaust make the car run rough because my car is is it was also cutting out out now and again which is just had a new high pressure fuel pump and did Drive beautiful for three weeks FRIEND said my cats are blocked
Replace #5 or #6 injector.
The N57 40d X5 has a different engine mount to this whereby there is no above nut to undo as its covered by a shield. it should pop out when the E bolts are out but there is no room above. Have you done this on an N57 as the engine mount when the body is 10cm up and DPF loose does not seem to want to move up enough to come out - DPF is in the way still which ironically I want to get off..... Doing this on ground with big axle stands and a load of jacks and ramps. Seems to me turbos are going to have to come off if I cannot move the mount. Am I missing something obvious and if so is it the fact that you need to split the round mount out of the alloy engine mount bracket (with pry bar perhaps) to get out? - Any sensible thoughts on this would be helpful as turbos are coming off if I don't progress....
I recall the n57 engine mount having a 16mm bolt going through the side? Where as the m57 has a nut on top.
@@FourRingsAuto Thanks for the reply....I see the hex bolt now, missed it on BMW TIS online but it is shown in the parts catalogue and as soon as you said this, I realised what needs doing. You cannot see this bolt under the car or easily from the top but it is there in parallel to the inner wing so another small ratchet or knuckle joint combination should see it gone and then the job should follow what you have done. Fingers crossed.
Step for step one done this today, the engine mount with the 18mm just won’t come apart!!!!! Have I missed something. I’ve taken out 3 bolts and the big 18mm nut. Stuck now. Keep thinking there’s a bolt I’ve missed????????
Hidden 4th bolt top left of engine mount.
All so change the glow plugs and test them
Can you clean and drive hard to clean self clean!! Do you have to drop subframe is there anyway to do it with out droping subframe
No. If it has the warning light on and restricted power, it will disable all dpf regeneration to prevent a fire.
The only other way you could remove it without dropping the subframe, would be to remove the turbo and exhaust manifold. Lowering the subframe is easier and faster.
@@FourRingsAuto thanks very MUCH
No the ecu restricts power because there is a high pressure before the dpf due to it being blocked with soot. The reason it is bypassing is it has likely gotten too hot, which is also likely the reason the dpf is blocked. Heat comes from excess fuel, soot also comes from fuel. So over fuelling either due to poor injector control, a boost or air leak after the MAF, etc.
If the dpf was clean, then yes. But like i have previously explained, if it is bypassing it's likely it's suffered thermal shock. The front DOC is then clogged with soot that a normal regen won't burn off. The back pressure can exceed 1 bar at full load, but this is a massive restriction. The dpf could be cleaned, but there's no point when it is bypassing and no effective. Soot in the tailpipe indicates to anyone inspecting the car that the dpf has been removed or isn't working.
Will this pass an MOT still? I’m keen to have work done on my E70 4L D can you advise/fit?
This was dpf replacement not dpf delete, i don't do those as it's a federal offence here in Australia. You can easily tell if a car doesn't have a functional dpf, just by checking the tailpipes for soot. So they can easily see if u don't have one, even if it passes the emissions test.
I have single turbo x6 3.0 td is it EASIER bro
They are the same as the twin turbo in removal.
Re below I meant body about 50mm up and not 10 cm
How did you get to the top bolt on the motor mount behind the dpf?
From memory i had the dpf unbolted and pushed it all the way upwards to get access. Think i used wobble extensions too to bring the ratchet out the side of the subframe. It was a while ago.
Cheers managed to finally get in there thanks for the video!
20 mile per hour speed limit is not helping
How did you remove the engine mount? Cant find any good way to take it out
Did you find a good way to do this?
Imagine finally getting it out and not just replacing it with regular pipes that don't destroy your motor, fuel efficiency, and horsepower.
And don't meet local emissions laws...
Here it's a $20,000 fine for the workshop that removes it, not the owner of the vehicle.
@@FourRingsAuto That's insane. Thankfully, I live in the USA and not the Orwellian dystopia they call the UK. Thank you for making the video, though. I certainly appreciate it.
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