Americans held in Turks and Caicos over ammunition charge speak out
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Bryan Hagerich and Ryan Watson speak to ABC News about the charges that could land them in prison for more than a decade.
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2nd Amendment does not apply in other countries. gun nuts KARMA.
The people in Grand Turk are wonderful and very peaceful. They deserve their peace without violent Americans.
The bullets were for hunting
Sure lets un-American those islands. Ban American tourism, food, medicine and technology to those islands.
How do we know they weren't smuggling small amounts...y'all like migrants not breaking laws.. neither do Turks & Caicos
Absolutely, Americans need to stop visiting this disgusting left wing nation.
@@mileskoester5395bullets don’t stop at killing just animals you jackass.
I don't feel sorry for these peiple at all. They violated the laws of the country and should face the consequences. Only Americans believe they can do what they want whenever and wherever they want. They are grown men and should have checked their luggage and laws of the country before the trip. Stop making these people look like innocent heroes when they must face the consequences for ignorance.
As an adult military brat having grown up all around the world, I approve this take. Unexamined privilege walking.
I don't even believe them when they say it was an accident like what? Do you store ammunition for hunting there next to your toothbrush? Just a zany mixup?
Did you feel that way about Griner?
@@JakeC-xx8zq they probably did because an international basketball player with .0001g of marijuana is a bit different than a gun nut rando bringing ammo and firearms into a country with massive gun violence.
Hope this helped honey
@@DodongoManoof Wait, 'they probably did'? That's not consistent with what you said next so I'll assume you meant they 'probably didn't' take that tone. Which is my point. This is all about perspective when it shouldn't be. To be morally and logically consistent we must put aside our opinions on what is innocent or how we feel the situations are 'a bit different'. A pro-gun person could say a tiny amount of bullets in the same way you said a tiny amount of marijuana. There's no distinction. The law in that country is the law. So how are they different from a moral and legal perspective? To reply to your condescending question if your comment helped, it did not.
"i'm a good person" said every bad person.
They are NOT victims.
Americans. Aggressive twats
Are these people entitled NRA republicans? If so, leave them there.
So, someone's political affiliation colors your opinon on if they should be in prison or not. That's some straight up authoritarianism right there. Were you supportive of returning Griner home? If so, do you see the breakdown in your reasoning?
@@JakeC-xx8zq What kind of idiot travels with ammunition?? Please keep him to protect the rest of us from these entitled gun idiots...
Remember when they were all shouting that Britney should do the time 😂 it's unreal how brainwashed these idiots are
@@JakeC-xx8zqNo moron, for breaking the law of the land.
@@JakeC-xx8zqdon't act so self righteous. Republicans are all about freedom unless it's the other side. Griner broke the laws and she should've stayed there, too.
Why does someone go to another country with ammunition or a firearm?
That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
@@tculpepper4878Really? The stupidest thing I’ve heard is someone not thoroughly checking their bags before entering another country.
Americans
Hunting trips. When hunters travel to hunt game in other countries, they have to take their gun with ammunition
I'm surprised they were even allowed through TSA in the airport in the USA. Guess the USA really is that much of a gun horney place.
Oh well. These guys are doofuses.
Are we supposed to have sympathy for these people?
These criminals and their families have been given so much free media coverage
I don’t feel sorry for any of them.
what is up with americans and their guns???!!!! an honest mistake??! how disconnected from reality u gotta be to forget you had bullets in your luggage smh
I agree 100% for the 1st guy.
But the 2nd guy had 4 random shells/rounds in his bag...
12 years seems a bit much in that case
@@HughJass-jv2lt It does make you wonder if they're that careless with bullets in bags... How many bullets are strewn around their houses? Do their kids find bullets in their backpacks? How many times has one of their kids been found playing with a bullet they found in the home? Are any of the bullets unjacketed lead?
@@Ali-e5h1b what are they going to do with a bullet and no gun?
@@Ali-e5h1b I have bullets all over my house, and guns. My kids grew up and was taught how to use them. We are a free country. I took my kids hunting by the time they where 4 years old. Taught them safety and responsibility.
I grew up in a relatively rural area. It was not unusual to find a shotgun shell or a 22lr round in a box of hardware in somebody's garage or shed. Just mixed in with a drawer of screws or nails. Ammo is out on the shelves of hardware stores or gas stations. I understand why someone who grew up in a state or country where ammunition is restricted might think it's weird to miss a few rounds cleaning out a backpack. But it's not that unusual here.
A lot of whining going on.
Guns are widely restricted around the world. This is US gun culture/laws hurting US citizens overseas. “I forgot” is not an excuse under US law.
Keep him! He knew the rules!
I wonder if your take is colored by your politics. Keep him, meaning you don't want him. Not meaning that 12 years is justice.
So when they were packing and unpacking, before and after the trip,they didn’t see the ammunitions until they got to the airport?
If you don't know you are carrying ammo around in your bags, maybe it is time to admit you have a problem.
Americans can travel the us with ammo and do so commonly during hunting season. Very easy to miss a loose round in travel luggage while packing.
You have a Haitian gang problem and likely gun smuggling problem on boats from Haiti. Talk about root causation.
Guarantee these were the same people that said to let Brittany Griner pay for her actions. Well, now it is time for them to do the same.
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yeaaaap. they can keep that same zero tolerance energy
hmm but she didnt tho so why should they
@@stephanier5220 She served time in prison.
@@leighannsoles8432 she barely served any time lol out of the 9 year sentence she served 293 days
Pull up yo bootstraps homie. Cancel the next 12 Xmas'
Don’t drop the soap 🧼 😅
LMAO
They think they’re above the law 🥸
In Canada we forget we packed snacks clothes, Americans forget they packed gun ammo….USA!USA!
There are a lot of Americans who don’t believe in guns.
yeah but your daddy Trudeau can freeze your bank accounts if he doesn't like what you're doing and you go to jail if you defend yourself from violent criminals. You also had to take a certain j ab whose side effects are just beginning to surface. No thanks
Lol!! Totally eh!
@@QueenBees456 A lot more that do than don't.
In Canada, you can also be put in prison for things you post on social media. Be careful!
You know what I can guarantee that NONE of my luggage has ammunition in it. Maybe they should practice safe firearm handling and they would not be in this situation. There’s a place for bullets and a place for your personal “massage “ devices and they’re NOT the same place.
bullets aren't dangerous. Its firearms that are dangerous. Bullets aren't even sharp or anything they are a paperweight without a firearm.
Pretty dumb packing ammo
Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes 🤷🏽♀️
why are they act like they are victims LMFAO
Jail. WTH you have bullets lol
I thought I was the only one that wasn't buying this crybaby story.
POOR LITTLE RICH BOY. He should of thought about his children before his completely stupid act.
that's the DEFAULT 😂
They did not even know they had it on them that is why. This happened to me when I went to Alaska and drove through Canada. I had a box of ammo in one of my bags and didn't know it was there. Lucky for me customs didn't search me. It was .556 ar ammo. It happens.
How about know the law before you travel. This is another Britney Griner situation. Know the fkn law or face the consequences
Oh please, don't be stupid.
@@Mkundera why is he stupid? what he said is reasonable. i swear, americans have this superiority complex. y'all are outsiders, follow the law of the country you're visiting!
@@Mkunderadon’t be smart*
Smuggling Dope in another Country is not the brightest idea.
@davidfromamerica1871 nope! Smuggling guns and or ammunition isn't either, they have 12 stinky years to think about it 8,]
why do these Darrens always think the law doesn't apply to them? 🤮
Because they're American. That cunty country does what it wants.
Is Sharitta Shanise Grier a "Darren" too, racist?
No way one travels internationally with ammunition.
What is a person supposed to do on a hunting trip? Does one intentionally bring ammunition, or just hope that the game will just hang itself for you?
@@Shane-bx8wsNot my problem. Buy the ammunition in another state? Do something else other than hunting? Quit crying?
The guy had a cowboy hat on. That should tell you plenty. It’s straight up arrogance not ignorance.
I bet they are deplorable ls too
7, not just one
My father was murdered with a gun -NO SYMPATHY! ! !
Neither of them had "gun".
I am sincerely sorry for the horrible death of your father. My condolences.
Bud he didn’t have a gun and he was a father himself next time research dummy
Yeah, don't make that mistake. Some countries, don't play
"I put the ammo cartridges in my wife's make up case along with her regular cosmetics" said no one ever hehe. No pity. You are NOT a victim.
Looks like he's living good, why isn't he in jail?
Because he hasn’t been convicted yet. He’s waiting for the judge.
You get an f for listening. Apply yourself.
He posted bail
Marvin you really need to pay attention
I've never Carried Ammo in Luggage. It's a very Odd Case.
It's very american to have random bullets you forgot about in your holiday luggage. sucks to be them but i have a feeling they would be the types to talk about law & order soooooo
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You know they’re law and order Republicans.
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Most likely 😜
@@em.415exactly lol
Not a victim. Broke the law in another country. rot in jail!
Awww, boohoo... You broke another country's laws. That's on YOU, bro, for not knowing the sh*t you should have before you left home.
Know before you go! This is also true for medications. There are medications here that are illegal in some other countries, and you can end up in jail under drug charges.
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Too bad, respect other countries and their laws. It's not a nightmare, it's your own doing.
If you had the same laws in the US you might be able to avoid mass shootings too
Yes, just like Mexico 😂
@@tektekken176 Mexico isn't the equal of 1st world countries like the US.
There's dozens of examples of countries that ban firearms and have zero consequences of it.
There's no other country with as many firearm deaths as the US. Go USA, you're number 1!
@@kewlztertc5386actually, Brazil has the highest number of deaths by guns. Know your facts before you try to educate anyone.
@@Shane-bx8ws hmmm.. I know I typed 1st world countries...
"Highest Rate Among High-Income Countries: The United States has the highest rate of gun deaths compared to other wealthy nations with similar populations [Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation]."
@@kewlztertc5386 your exact words....
There's no other country with as many firearm deaths as the US.
That’s hilarious. You’re going to prison for your gun fetish.
GFY
Americans learned nothing from Britney Griner..
You won’t believe but there is another American arrested for marijuana in Russia AFTER griner
These were the same ones probably saying the same thing most people are saying to them 😂
That’s cause majority of Americans are stupid
No comparison
I have no sympathy for them, Americans always think that whatever flies in America flies in other countries and that is and never has been the case. America isn't the world, and just like how America wants people visiting it's country to follow their rules, Americans visiting other people's countries MUST follow their rules or pay the consequences.
Stuck in paradise.
Stuck in paradise and hell at the same time. Bitter sweet
Obey the law.... ignorance or mistakes are not valid defenses.
This isn’t ignorance. This is 2nd amendment extremists thinking their constitutional rights apply to the whole world.
Was that your take on Griner too?
@@JakeC-xx8zqThey both messed up. Griner’s biggest problem is that Russia loves snatching up Americans for leverage. She should have known that.
I am so glad for the comment section. I was thinking I better not be the only one who doesn't feel very sorry for these folks
The time is extreme, however why would you travel with weapon related stuff. U did pack your bag
Hunting trips require a person to travel with weapon related stuff.
@@Shane-bx8ws
So what you’re saying is being a gun owner allows you to be careless with weapons and ammunition.
@@Shane-bx8wsA normal person has a container for ammo. They also clean out their bag at the end of the trip. Who travels with loose ammo?
@@jackn8458 I never said anything along that line. Take your bullshit elsewhere
@@Shane-bx8ws You said hunting trips require people to travel with weapon related stuff. I then told you what a normal person does when traveling after a hunting trip. People who own guns need to be responsible. Other counties have laws that you need to abide by if you visit them.
His kids can visit ? What’s the problem ?
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"Oh no! I accidentally packed firearms and ammunition in my luggage". Happens all the time, am I right?
/sarcasm
Dude did u unpack that bag at the hotel and say “DANG I BRONG AMMO,IM NOT THROWING IT AWAY” ?
EXACTLY! For sure he saw them and decided to repackage the suitcase and not disposing the bullets.
It is your responsibility as a traveler to follow all of the nation's laws you are traveling to, you are not a victim. It is your responsibility (which let's be real he's blaming his wife privately) to check and make sure all of your luggage and your person are free of prohibited items .
I've flown a lot. I've got guns and bullets. I've never once put a gun or bullets in my luggage.
The problem is easily avoided.
Americans need to WAKE UP!! Other countries and their laws are NOT the same as yours. Do your research before you leave your country! It seems the confidence of Americans out strips their knowledge.
It's good to hear Ryan articulate his understanding of Turks & Caicos doing this to keep its country safer. I don't recall him doing so in past interviews.
Nobody who has a brain forgets guns or ammo in their bags. Makes no sense.
husband is an irresponsible gun owner. firstly you have a specific bag/case that you use to transport your firearm and anything else firearm related rather than using the bag for multiple purposes. second idiot mistake was not emptying out the bag before putting things in it. a sensible person would double check to make sure no ammo fell out into the bag or forgot ammo in the smaller pockets. should have been responsible enough to double check the bag knowing that it previously had guns and ammo in it and that you are taking that bag through a high security point of entry. ignorance and lack of taking responsibility is not an excuse and would not be accepted in my country.
Keep them
Americans: LEAVE YOUR GUNS & GUN PARAPHERNALIA at home.
Wow, the privilege of owning a gun can bring such penalty.
Entitled Americans bringing lethal weapons/ammunition to another country on their beach vacation……..and expecting that “oops” is enough of an explanation.
Do your time. They have the right to their own laws. How stupid can you be. Accept responsibility for your actions. You're not a victim.
I'm sure these guys are about law and order in the United States. Other countries have laws, you break them, you must pay the price
Small kids at home- ammo left hanging around in bag- irresponsible parents.
Me me me me me
You don't know where your ammo is? You are lucky one of your kids didn't find it.
He broke that countries law. He must be held accountable for his own actions and pay the price. He's obviously a Rebulican. Lock him up!
I'm a Democrat, and you're a nut.
No disrespect intended but ignorance and stupidity should not be an excuse for breaking laws. Stop whining.
you know, If they let these people go, this could be bad for tourism and $$$$ to their local economy. People go there because they feel they can be safe. Now the perception could be that guns are welcome.
Woe is me. Don't pack your entitlement in your luggage while traveling to other countries.
If there is someone to blame here is that they left the USA and no TSA alerted them that they have bullets on their baggages. Whether, accidental or imtentional, Turks and Caicos need to implement their laws.
The idea of going to a foreign nation and NOT fully checking out your luggage, total nonsense. If you have a gun, buy a GUN BAG and leave all your stuff in that bag, if you got loose ammo floating around your bags and homes, you are asking for trouble.
I just don’t believe 7 Americans accidentally had ammunition in their luggage. Not sure what’s at play here, but that’s an absurd claim 7 times.
Lol! I absolutely have no sympathy for these folks. The fellow uses the old excuse “I didn’t know that this was my luggage - I’m a good person”! The spokesman from the State Department said it perfectly. America expects all people to respect their laws when people travel to the U.S, laws of other nations must respected when Americans travel abroad. If I were to travel from Canada to the U.S. and found to have drugs in my luggage I wouldn’t be able to claim that I wasn’t aware of it.
But, anyone and everyone are just allowed to invade the U.S. while carrying guns, drugs, ammunition, etc.
You have been brainwashed by your orange jesus.
Nope the guns and ammo come From the US
@@neilkurzman4907 you're fucking ignorant
You do the crime, you do the time. Especially if you’re in another country. You are not above the law.
Consequences. Not victim.
Brittany Grainer hypocrisy in 3.... 2.... 1...
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No, the differences she did it intentionally. But still act like a victim.
@@neilkurzman4907
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whatever helps u sleep at nite...
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unless you can prove the same people who think she should be in prison are the same people who think these guys should be free than you have nothing, your point is meaningless since you cant. Regardless, she intentionally did that, these guys didn't. Bullets are useless without a gun. Lastly, nobody thought Griner should be in prison, they didn't like that she was traded for an arms trafficker and that other Americans there were left behind who were actually inoccent.
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Don’t speak for everybody she should’ve been in prison because she intentionally brought that stuff with her. By the way, guns aren’t very useful without bullets are they?
I hear a lot of yelling and screaming from “responsible” gun owners. How responsible was this?
@@neilkurzman4907 i literally said bullets are useless without a gun. Guns can be used without a bullet, you can use an empty gun to threaten someone. Obviously this wasn't responsible but this was a victimless crime, so was Griner's
Why is this in the news????? Bye Felicia don't drop the soap
GUILTY
I honestly cannot imagine how any person could accidently leave ammunition in their travel bags and go to fly internationally.
The possible 12 year sentence is ridiculous but their stupidity is ridiculous to me as well.
The family needs to put some money together and get a speed boat for them out of there😮😮😮
😂😂😂😂.....
Thoughts and prayers... yeah, yeah, yeah, .. The United States would do well to adopt Turks and Caicos gun laws. Plain and simple.
We can't even keep people from entering illegally.
Tbh, there seems to be alot of warnings prior given to the public. Our country gave a red alert on this matter. It's similar to bringing in your stash of drugs and getting caught. Turks views the ammo like illegal drugs. If they r given leniency they laws of turks risk not being taken seriously. But it could ddef damage the countries tourism, maybe.
What? No. Nobody gives a crap about these idiots. Most people agree with the law
Yup. Only in America. It is a hard thing for Americans to understand that other countries have strict laws to protect their own citizens . Like the gum that dude chewed and violated the rule in Singapore got physical punishments.
Why would you bring ammunition??? I’m not saying worth 12 years, but Americans feel like they can do what they want.
They need to take accountability for breaking laws.
Learn to respect laws of other countries.
They are lying clearly…you don’t just have loose bullets in your luggage.
Just like Garner when she brought weed to Russia, gotta be familiar with the laws of the country you’re going to and not just assume that all the laws in America are the same. Not to say that this person suffer the full extent of the law, but that’s just reality and you have to face their justice now
While you are absolutely right, cannabis is not lethal... What was she going to do? Throw cannabis oil at people to kill them? Oh no...
Just like Brittney Griner.....check your luggage before flying!!!
So now there are four? Don’t these people watch the news? I can’t understand how these people are so clueless concerning the laws of the country they choose to visit. And don’t they ever empty their luggage when they’ve finished one trip, say a hunting trip for deer?
Maybe they should’ve just complied with their laws😂😂😂😂😂😂 0:03
I am anti gun but I really wish these two dads are released back to their families after paying hefty fines than term in prison. Both seems family person and hope judge takes this into account. And also wish we Americans have less cavalier attitude to guns especially traveling international
Break the law, do the time.
I have to take a medication that is a narcotic and even though it’s prescribed to me I do not travel to other countries where it’s even a remote gray area.
What’s that saying Americans love?…something like ‘You come to our country, you go by our laws’. The sheer entitlement to believe that other countries’ laws shouldn’t apply to you while expecting yours to be adhered to, is something else.
Yes... hug your kids first... great.... But Second? Get rid of your guns!!!
It's like they think bullets are safe if they aren't in a gun...
I don't want to travel on a flight with someone carrying arms
I don’t feel bad at all. As a parent how careless could you be!
Entitlement.. Lesson no one is above the law
How is accidentally bringing in a couple bullets in your suitcase "entitlement"? Or is that just the buzz word of the decade?
Naw dude u unpacked ya bag at the hotel?
Yep.
But I feel Sympathy for the 2nd guy.
I've unpacked my luggage while on vacation.... and found small trinkets from previous trips that I forgot about 😆😆
@@HughJass-jv2lttrinkets are very different from ammunition. If you travel with guns or bullets should pay a lot more attention to what you put or remove from your luggage.
@@enadegheeghaghe6369
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Come on Bro..... open your eyes.
It's not just about "am•mo".
4 random bullets,
prescription drugs,
Alcohol,
It's all the same.
In one country, it's just trinkets.
Perfectly legal, and No big Deal.
But In another country, "trinkets" can land you in PRISON.
Stop trying to make this about "guns".
@@HughJass-jv2lt I should stop trying to make ammunition about guns?? Wtf? So go then, don't take my advise. Leave ammunition (sorry trinkets) in your luggage as you travel around the world. Of you are caught just tell them to ignore the "trinkets". LOL
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Bro...
My point is to *ALWAYS* be AWARE of what is in your Luggage.
It's not just "bullets" that can land you in PRISON.
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Maybe if they had the firearm as well, along with the negligence.....but 12 years for a little ammo........?!?!
I'd like to see the consequences for actual serious crimes there 0_o
Like selling the little “ammo”?
You lack respect.
@@Heyyou00002 you think he went there to sell 4 bullets lmao
@@Heyyou00002 This is the point where blind disgust interferes with objectivity and fairness. If you were on a jury would you truly believe that this man went on a business venture to sell a handful of bullets internationally using his family vacation as cover. Do you really believe that? You have nothing giving you any reasonable doubt?
Most countries don’t want guns or ammunition in their countries! They don’t want to become like the USA.
Travelers are responsible for knowing the laws of the country to which they're traveling. Full stop. None of these people are victims.
Separately, how did the bags get onto an airplane (or multiple flights), considering the TSA 'security theater' we have in the US? I've traveled with firearms. Locked containers, additional screening, hands-on inspection, paperwork... A number of airports failed 'security 101' in these cases